did abit of googling and there were mixed reviews. some had that issue some didn't.
sorry i do not have a pair now give u an update.

fulcrum would be a good alternative as an upgrade if you're worried.

precisely, that's not apples to apples since Ultegra is retailed at around 1.5-2k more than the 105

Few months back, my uncle broke one of the spokes (rear wheel, drive side) of his ksyrium elite, sent back to pedalspot for repair, they suspecting could be due to rust.

This post has been edited by gmail: Dec 14 2018, 05:38 PM

This is weird. I've used Ksyrium Elites, Pros and now using the Exalith SL, never had any issues with the spokes rusting or corroding.

I still keep in touch with the person that I sold my Elites to (6 years old wheel now), and the spokes are still good

im guessing might b some quality issue? no proper QC perhaps

probably. the more usual complains about mavic wheels are to do with their freehub bushing. where the yellow plastic bushing can wear away with use as it rubs against the rubber seal, resulting in the freehub coming loose over time. but I get around this problem by using a heavier lubricant just at where the bushing contacts with the rubber seal.

they're definitely not as smooth rolling as fulcrums, but my preference for mavics are more because of the better responsiveness on climbs.

Not the rubber seal. But the hub alloy shaft. The nylon bushing is in contact with the alloy shaft. It screeches when the lube dries up. If u have extra money, get an aftermarket freehub body from hubdoctor. It has proper bearing instead of bushing

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This post has been edited by miaopurr: Dec 16 2018, 07:41 PM

wat tires r everyone here using? was looking at grand prix 4k then ppl told me tht its trash with weak sidewall

the original GP4000 was well known for that, but the current GP4000S2 models are ok. maybe try the GP5000?

Vittoria rubino pro, panaracer gravel king

vittoria rubino pro slick here. last pair clocked more than 6k kms, punctured once on the rear.
on a new pair of rubino pro slick now and would like to try the gp5000 as my next tire.

ooh so tht issue is for GP4k not the S2. GP5k kinda expensive tho

Vittoria rubino pro speed and Bontrager r3 for training

And

Vittoria corsa, Bontrager r4 and gp4k s2 for races

Used and would recommend:
Pirelli p zero velo. Sworks. Schwalbe one not too bad but lousy wet grip.

Bought, going to use once current tyres wear out:
Michelin power competition

Won't buy ever again
Challenge strada (too hard to mount and take out)
Gp4ks2 (koyak after a month)
Bontrager r4 (older model, puncture prone, too thin)
Vittoria corsa graphene (likes to keep small stones and glass embedded inside, puncture protection layer useless also, 6 punctures in a month.

Used before, didn't hate but probably won't buy again:
Michelin pro4
Rubino Pro 3

how long did u use the s-works tires for?
s-works turbo after 2/3k kms are like puncture magnet. especially where the are so much debris in our roads.

Challenge Forte for normal ride, Challenge Elite for event

how's the Pirelli p zero velo? thinking of trying out this one.

the GP4000S2 worked well for me, but instead I find that the Schwalbe 1 being the one that wears out fast for me instead

that sounds like the mavic tires. wears out fast

Quite long. Used at the back, about 6k km until the center became flat and got chunks of it come out exposing the fabric underneath lol. Maybe I was lucky, didn't get much punctures. Opposite of the corsa graphene, some people didn't have problems, I had shitload of punctures, gave up after 2 months and use for indoor trainer.

Challenge strada for getting blisters on fingers trying to install and take out 🤣

I love it. Decent speed and doesn't puncture from penetration, only pinch flats from hitting potholes downhill. Best grip among all tyres I've used. 2nd ride on it and I got PR from gs to janda baik downhill, wasnt even trying to go fast. Bmc ss2 had a good deal on the pirelli, bring any old tyre and can get 25% off the pirelli. I got mine before that promotion, was rm250 rrp but got 10% off. But no regrets even though its not exactly cheap.