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ToiletMaster
post Jul 12 2018, 02:47 PM

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Was planning to make a purchase of a 5000 gaming PC, looks like both IDtech and Dtech won't be getting my business anytime soon smile.gif
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post Jul 12 2018, 02:49 PM

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QUOTE(ToiletMaster @ Jul 12 2018, 02:47 PM)
Was planning to make a purchase of a 5000 gaming PC, looks like both IDtech and Dtech won't be getting my business anytime soon smile.gif
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Not wait for next gen Nvidia?? Unless have very attractive GPU price for now...
duckhole
post Jul 12 2018, 02:50 PM

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so conclusion: Dotatech scam ?

penipu scammer?

kasi boikott tak?
ToiletMaster
post Jul 12 2018, 02:51 PM

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QUOTE(RichardN @ Jul 12 2018, 02:49 PM)
Not wait for next gen Nvidia?? Unless have very attractive GPU price for now...
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Will be waiting for that one most likely, but the purchase definitely will not be heading any of those 2 places biggrin.gif

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post Jul 12 2018, 02:52 PM

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QUOTE(duckhole @ Jul 12 2018, 02:50 PM)
so conclusion: Dotatech scam ?

penipu scammer?

kasi boikott tak?
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Not scam, but unprofessional conduct.
RichardN
post Jul 12 2018, 02:53 PM

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QUOTE(duckhole @ Jul 12 2018, 02:50 PM)
so conclusion: Dotatech scam ?

penipu scammer?

kasi boikott tak?
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QUOTE(:3mushy:3 @ Jul 12 2018, 02:52 PM)
Not scam, but unprofessional conduct.
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Careful on the words, later kena defamation
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post Jul 12 2018, 02:55 PM

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QUOTE(RichardN @ Jul 12 2018, 02:53 PM)
Careful on the words, later kena defamation
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Unless they can prove they lost businesses because of a random comment on Internet, good luck.
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post Jul 12 2018, 03:00 PM

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Hmm.. was thinking to get a Kraken cooler from them

Maybe need look for other shop liao

I also takut if ini macam
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post Jul 12 2018, 03:06 PM

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QUOTE(RichardN @ Jul 12 2018, 02:53 PM)
Careful on the words, later kena defamation
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saya tanya je, tak kan tanya pon tak boleh.

soalan bukan cadangan ni


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QUOTE(peterG @ Jul 12 2018, 03:00 PM)
Hmm.. was thinking to get a Kraken cooler from them

Maybe need look for other shop liao

I also takut if ini macam
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Don't think there's gonna be actual problem with it, once in a while cases like TS' happens. However personally I have stopped buying from them for a long time.
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post Jul 12 2018, 03:28 PM

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wao 33 pages
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post Jul 12 2018, 03:49 PM

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wow gg. just finished reading 33 pages.

the shop memang lansi a bit la, don't really like to talk or reply to pm one. was thinking to use their RMA services but too slow reply i already finish asking the distributor and sendiri send out the item for warranty already.

not to side with the seller but it is understandable that the bigger you get, the harder to control / manage your business. but then again, head not so big then don't wear such a big hat. and ahem, since already admit is your side manual key in error then no point pushing the blame to lazada la hahaha.

anyways, should compare this case with the pioneer ma - taobao. as e-commerce is slightly more complicated than usual brick and mortar business.

so in the old model it's usually merchant - consumer, direct deal.
but in e-commerce where you use a platform, it's merchant - platform (also acts as an escrow) - consumer. the platform / escrow in this case is lazada.

so it's fairer to compare this to that happen to the pioneer of these platforms - taobao. when such an issue happen in taobao - wrongly priced / overstated stocks / overly high promotion voucher value, yes the merchant can choose not to honor the order. and there had been many examples of this happening (not weird when you consider the sheer volume of transactions).

usually when they do not honor, they would

1. first explain, then try to negotiate and/or provide some compensation. usually this would solve the issue.
2. completely ignore the consumer and not honor the order.

when it comes to case 2, the consumers can directly escalated the case to taobao and they would investigate. so nope, it's not the fault of the platform since it is indeed the merchant's RESPONSIBILITY to ensure his listing is correct. so usually the resolution would result in compensation to the consumer. be it directly from taobao, or from the deposit the merchant gave to taobao as part of the platform structure.

but then again, there's actually no reason to go case 2, as for any reasonable consumer, it will result in an amicable resolution. and if indeed the consumer is trying to take advantage for the mistakes made by the merchant by insisting the order to be processed but ended up in case 2, taobao would take into consideration that the merchant had tried to amicably resolve the issue and throw out the case.

i really don't get why Malaysians are so masochistic, could be a culture and peer pressure thing. this results in bad e-commerce practices like this to be tolerable.


kelian ts, come, i sell you my graphic card cheaper icon_idea.gif yepikaiye
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post Jul 12 2018, 04:10 PM

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QUOTE(yepikaiye @ Jul 9 2018, 02:59 PM)
DotaTech IT Enterprise is sly S. O. B

I buy rx 580 4gb via their shop lazada. then they cancel my order as they liked.
reason : wrong price? wtf im the 3rd person buy the stock.

Rude, they deleted my post at their fb page, ignore my chat via lazada
when im buying after 2 stock already sold. now u said to me wrong price and adjust higher price? wow what a tactic.

dun want let me buy coz  what?
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lol..... long time i didnt buy from this shop.....to many people kena mcm nie...they not scam.. but they mostly rude while handling costumer. personally i am using this fella

techview.net... go find them on lelong... they very fast and kind people also bos....
0168257061
post Jul 12 2018, 04:12 PM

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TS if you want to buy cheap rx580 pm me.
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post Jul 12 2018, 04:16 PM

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make sure you guys write the google review on the location of this shop

currently 4.1, if you think they deserve worse then do your job
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post Jul 12 2018, 04:20 PM

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QUOTE(0168257061 @ Jul 12 2018, 04:12 PM)
TS if you want to buy cheap rx580 pm me.
2 months old gpu brows.gif
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gpu sudah di pakai gali ke?kekeke
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post Jul 12 2018, 04:23 PM

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QUOTE(RViN @ Jul 12 2018, 11:32 AM)
OMG do I have to spell out everything for you?

T&C are quite often illegitimate, and put there to fool ignorant people like yourself who think they are "all written by lawyers" and to intimidate those who don't do their research.

Also clicking "I agree" doesn't mean shit if what you're agreeing to isn't legitimate.

People can sign contracts which are not legitimate, and they don't stand up in court, so if you go tell the judge "hey he's the one who signed it" you'll probably get slapped on the side of your head.

Until now still can't admit that you're absolutely wrong and talking crap? Lol. You don't even have to be a lawyer to know any of this.

To summarize it for your limited comprehension capability:
LAWS > T&C.

If T&C contravene laws, it doesn't matter if you agree to them or not, THE LAW OVERRULES THEM. And my example was to put your laughable assertion that all T&C's are valid in the ground, which I have, so gtfo.
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QUOTE(FatalExe @ Jul 12 2018, 12:11 PM)
Had to tag this corporate buttlicking guy

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QUOTE(party @ Jul 12 2018, 12:24 PM)
i quote already but he reply all T&C drafted by follow law one...so he must be right. u n me must be wrong and quoted case in Mars. He is the smart one man..let him be forever kena cheated by those non-law abiding T&C. As a business owner, I like him/
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Lazy want argue with people , go read for yourself.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&...Dnre332&cf=1

5. Are terms and conditions legally binding?

Terms and conditions that form part of a contract between a business and its customer are legally binding. Some ambiguity can arise if they are not clearly presented as part of the contract, and this has been particularly problematic in respect of electronic contracts where no direct contact is made between the parties.

The party to be bound by the terms and conditions should have notice of them and the opportunity to review them. The courts prefer this to be by way of clear links at the point of agreement and preferably also on the main page of a website.

A clickwrap is the best way of obtaining agreement, i.e. where the user must click on a button to accept the terms and conditions which should ideally be able to be downloaded and printed. Agreement obtained via a browsewrap, where a user can proceed without opening the terms and conditions, is not always enforceable.

And no one here yet to prove any shit to me lazada terms and conditions isn't prepared by legal practitioner.

Maybe my auntie next door can write below t&c full with legal jargon. Also read point 2.7 ok. Thanks

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post Jul 12 2018, 04:31 PM

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QUOTE(bumpo @ Jul 12 2018, 12:21 PM)
you say you arent romanticizing t&c but your post content does  laugh.gif
also ts did not die die want the deal.
he persoalkan the questionable reason that price error due to lazada system. ts did not demand die die must send me that gc.
ada beza ya  laugh.gif

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Im really not. The reason I bought up terms and condition is to show ts , he's wrong and they can cancel his order under lazada house rules which he agreed in the first place. He might not realize it, but the moment he click I agree, he's already entering to a legal binding agreement with lazada. I'm trying to explain to ts that they can cancel the order. Like it or not.

Many already advise ts to complain, to get the compensation . But why ts over and over again bring up the story that 2 other person before him getting the price but he cannot. What's the motive here?
Go re-read ts post,
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post Jul 12 2018, 04:45 PM

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nothing wrong to cancel..
juz business etiquette 404.. didn't reach out to customer b4 cancel
even when I order dominos pizza on9.. they know they cant deliver on time.. they call me to ask whether to proceed order or to cancel the order...
usually I also get a additional call when the delivery rider leave the shop.. so I can time and syok2 wait at gate..

if in ebay alrd bad review 9 9 and cannot u turn

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