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MilitaryMadness
post Apr 25 2019, 01:39 PM

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KDN akan tubuhkan pasukan petugas tangani isu pencerobohan nelayan asing

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Kabinet akan menubuhkan sebuah pasukan petugas khas diketuai oleh Kementerian Dalam Negeri (KDN) bagi menangani masalah pencerobohan nelayan asing di perairan negara, kata Menteri Dalam Negeri Muhyiddin Yassin.

Selain KDN, katanya, pasukan itu turut disertai Kementerian Pertanian dan Industri Asas Tani, Kementerian Pertahanan dan Kementerian Luar serta tujuh agensi penguatkuasaan.

Tujuh agensi berkenaan adalah ​​​​​​​Agensi Penguatkuasaan Maritim Malaysia (APMM), Tentera Laut Diraja Malaysia (TLDM), Polis Diraja Malaysia (PDRM), Jabatan Imigresen, Jabatan Perikanan, Lembaga Kemajuan Ikan Malaysia (LKIM) dan Suruhanjaya Pencegahan Rasuah Malaysia (SPRM).

"Mereka akan mengatur operasi khas dalam tempoh yang segera dan diharapkan dengan tindakan ini maka pencerobohan nelayan asing tidak terus berlaku," katanya pada sidang media di KDN, di Putrajaya, hari ini.

Turut serta pada sidang media itu ialah Menteri Pertanian dan Industri Asas Tani, Salahuddin Ayub dan Timbalan Menteri Pertahanan, Liew Chin Tong.

Menurut Muhyiddin, masalah pencerobohan nelayan asing terutamanya dari Vietnam pada tahun ini semakin berleluasa dengan 41 bot telah ditahan oleh APMM, manakala Jabatan Perikanan menahan sebanyak 26 bot.

"Kes ini bukan baru tetapi akhir-akhir ini semakin meningkat mengikut musim kerana sekarang musim sotong. Mereka (nelayan asing) masuk dan tidak mengendahkan undang-undang perairan antarabangsa," katanya.

Ditanya sama ada tindakan penguatkuasaan sebelum ini kurang berkesan, Muhyiddin berkata setiap agensi menjalankan tugas dan operasi mengikut bidang masing-masing.

"Kalau gerakan dibuat secara bersepadu, bila mereka (nelayan asing) dengar kita datang, diharapkan mereka tak berani masuk dan ceroboh peraiaran kita.

"Jika mereka ceroboh juga, dengan aset yang lebih dan tenaga manusia yang dimobilisasikan maka mungkin kita boleh tahan mereka secara lebih baik," jelasnya.

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post Apr 25 2019, 03:18 PM

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Menurut Muhyiddin, masalah pencerobohan nelayan asing terutamanya dari Vietnam pada tahun ini semakin berleluasa dengan 41 bot telah ditahan oleh APMM, manakala Jabatan Perikanan menahan sebanyak 26 bot.

"Kes ini bukan baru tetapi akhir-akhir ini semakin meningkat mengikut musim kerana sekarang musim sotong. Mereka (nelayan asing) masuk dan tidak mengendahkan undang-undang perairan antarabangsa," katanya.
good luck to all involve....

this will test the enforcement and ability to nego with neighbor...
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post Apr 25 2019, 03:28 PM

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QUOTE(zacky chan @ Apr 25 2019, 03:18 PM)
good luck to all involve....

this will test the enforcement and ability to nego with neighbor...
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Also all sides' government need to educate their fishermen to not intrude into other country's sea border.

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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Apr 25 2019, 03:28 PM)
Also all sides' government need to educate their fishermen to not intrude into other country's sea border.
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its will be rough....already known vietnam and thai so far dont follow rule..


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Rise of the white hulls: Indo-Pacific coast guards become diplomatic tools

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Vietnam coast guard personnel keeping a close eye on Chinese coast guard vessels

TOKYO — Nations in the Indo-Pacific region are employing “white hull” diplomacy, putting their coast guards to work to challenge China’s territorial claims at sea, a Philippine Coast Guard officer said recently.

Lt. Cmdr. Jay Tarriela described the growing strength and responsibility of coast guards in the western Pacific on April 19 while speaking to the Yokosuka Council on Asia-Pacific Studies near the home of U.S. Forces Japan.

“The rise of white hulls in the region has seen a noticeable uptick since the early 2000s,” he said.

Smaller Asian nations are responding to territorial challenges from China with their coast guards, rather than their navies, said Tarriela, a post-graduate student at the National Graduate Institute for Policy Studies in Tokyo. That lower level response reduces the likelihood of a shooting war breaking out.

“Someday, somebody might make some mistakes and there will be a fight,” he said, quoting Malaysian Prime Minister Mahathir Mohamad. “Some ships will be lost and there might be a war and we don’t want that.”

Tarriela focused his studies on the Philippines, Vietnam, Malaysia and Indonesia, countries that contend with conflicting territorial claims by China in the South China Sea.

“[The] China trend is a reason why the coast guard is getting bigger, but only in the last decade,” he said. However, “there are more important tasks for the coast guard.”

Coast guards should focus on search-and-rescue duties, law enforcement and environmental issues, he said, not duties that are more in line with a military mission.

However, China’s rising interest in the region accounts for most of the increasing coast guard presence, Tarriela said.

“Smaller ships should be the ones patrolling [the] South China Sea” he said. “Smaller countries need to patrol their own territories.”

China is a major trading partner for many Asian countries, which puts them in a precarious position in the region, Tarriela said. They don’t want to antagonize China with naval vessels, so they use smaller coast guard vessels, which are not technically military vessels.
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The role of coast guards in the region today evolved from the model started by Japan in the 1960s, Tarriela said. The Japanese government used its coast guard to build regional goodwill and cooperation in four phases, he said.

First, the lighthouse-building phase, in which Japan built lighthouses and mapped the Straits of Malacca, the 550-mile-long body of water between the Malay Peninsula and Indonesian island of Sumatra. The strait is a major shipping channel that connects the Pacific and Indian oceans.

In the mid 1970s, after the Japanese tanker Showa Maru spilled oil into the Singapore Straits, the Japan Coast Guard shifted to an environmental protection role, teaching other nations’ coast guards the proper response to those types of events, Tarriela said.

In the early 2000s, with a rise in piracy, the emphasis shifted to law enforcement. Japan, still suspect in the eyes of neighbors who remembered World War II, adapted its approach to train the coast guards of the Philippines, Malaysia, Indonesia and Vietnam.

Finally, Tarriela said, comes a security phase that marks the emergence of territorial claims by China in the East and South China seas, claims that often overlap those of the four countries.

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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Apr 25 2019, 01:39 PM)

manakala Jabatan Perikanan menahan sebanyak 26 bot.

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how do Fishery Dept arrest those illegal trawlers...? they have their own security/enforcement element equipped with guns n stuff like Immigration's own PASTAK?
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post Apr 25 2019, 04:35 PM

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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Apr 25 2019, 01:39 PM)
KDN akan tubuhkan pasukan petugas tangani isu pencerobohan nelayan asing

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Kabinet akan menubuhkan sebuah pasukan petugas khas diketuai oleh Kementerian Dalam Negeri (KDN) bagi menangani masalah pencerobohan nelayan asing di perairan negara, kata Menteri Dalam Negeri Muhyiddin Yassin.

Selain KDN, katanya, pasukan itu turut disertai Kementerian Pertanian dan Industri Asas Tani, Kementerian Pertahanan dan Kementerian Luar serta tujuh agensi penguatkuasaan.

Tujuh agensi berkenaan adalah ​​​​​​​Agensi Penguatkuasaan Maritim Malaysia (APMM), Tentera Laut Diraja Malaysia (TLDM), Polis Diraja Malaysia (PDRM), Jabatan Imigresen, Jabatan Perikanan, Lembaga Kemajuan Ikan Malaysia (LKIM) dan Suruhanjaya Pencegahan Rasuah Malaysia (SPRM).

"Mereka akan mengatur operasi khas dalam tempoh yang segera dan diharapkan dengan tindakan ini maka pencerobohan nelayan asing tidak terus berlaku," katanya pada sidang media di KDN, di Putrajaya, hari ini.

Turut serta pada sidang media itu ialah Menteri Pertanian dan Industri Asas Tani, Salahuddin Ayub dan Timbalan Menteri Pertahanan, Liew Chin Tong.

Menurut Muhyiddin, masalah pencerobohan nelayan asing terutamanya dari Vietnam pada tahun ini semakin berleluasa dengan 41 bot telah ditahan oleh APMM, manakala Jabatan Perikanan menahan sebanyak 26 bot.

"Kes ini bukan baru tetapi akhir-akhir ini semakin meningkat mengikut musim kerana sekarang musim sotong. Mereka (nelayan asing) masuk dan tidak mengendahkan undang-undang perairan antarabangsa," katanya.

Ditanya sama ada tindakan penguatkuasaan sebelum ini kurang berkesan, Muhyiddin berkata setiap agensi menjalankan tugas dan operasi mengikut bidang masing-masing.

"Kalau gerakan dibuat secara bersepadu, bila mereka (nelayan asing) dengar kita datang, diharapkan mereka tak berani masuk dan ceroboh peraiaran kita.

"Jika mereka ceroboh juga, dengan aset yang lebih dan tenaga manusia yang dimobilisasikan maka mungkin kita boleh tahan mereka secara lebih baik," jelasnya.

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That will even put TLDM away & away from core business
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post Apr 25 2019, 09:42 PM

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QUOTE(LTZ @ Apr 25 2019, 04:35 PM)
That will even put TLDM away & away from core business
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This should be the main purview of the APMM, yet the navy is still getting roped into this venture. laugh.gif


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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Apr 25 2019, 09:42 PM)
This should be the main purview of the APMM, yet the navy is still getting roped into this venture. laugh.gif
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Thats why.... its like putting army permanently in NBOS. As we know army is a force that operate in large numbers. Deploying them in NBOS give them problem to conduct exercise at large scale (brigade, division) effectively. My friends told me about this.... so the same will happen in navy. Yes we know, we always conduct patrol to assist enforcement agencies as our secondary duty. But not to establish like this kind of task force....by doing this we will be tied up. There will a primary agency to coordinate, so command & control will also be a problem.
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QUOTE(kerolzarmyfanboy @ Apr 25 2019, 04:28 PM)
how do Fishery Dept arrest those illegal trawlers...? they have their own security/enforcement element equipped with guns n stuff like Immigration's own PASTAK?
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wouldn't be surprised since US Department of Education listed Remington M870 shotguns are list of equipment laugh.gif
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QUOTE(LTZ @ Apr 25 2019, 10:22 PM)
Thats why.... its like putting army permanently in NBOS. As we know army is a force that operate in large numbers. Deploying them in NBOS give them problem to conduct exercise at large scale (brigade, division) effectively. My friends told me about this.... so the same will happen in navy. Yes we know, we always conduct patrol to assist enforcement agencies as our secondary duty. But not to establish like this kind of task force....by doing this we will be tied up. There will a primary agency to coordinate, so command & control will also be a problem.
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^ excellent points

Question: do TDM have division-scale manoeuvre exercises?

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QUOTE(KLthinker91 @ Apr 27 2019, 01:03 AM)
River-class Batch 1 OPV HMS Clyde

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^ excellent points

Question: do TDM have division-scale manoeuvre exercises?
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Yes they are....but I asked my friends in the army, its difficult to assemble the full size even at battalion size because of the commitment with too much initiatives which is not the core business
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QUOTE(LTZ @ Apr 27 2019, 10:16 AM)
Yes they are....but I asked my friends in the army, its difficult to assemble the full size even at battalion size because of the commitment with too much initiatives which is not the core business
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this is a major problem... 10para which is supposed to be the rpd should at least have a battalion size unit to be able to deploy anywhere in msia within 24 hours
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QUOTE(Fat & Fluffy @ Apr 27 2019, 10:43 AM)
this is a major problem... 10para which is supposed to be the rpd should at least have a battalion size unit to be able to deploy anywhere in msia within 24 hours
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But now...... at esscom, at airport, etc.... difficult to form up even qt battalion level for integration training
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QUOTE(KLthinker91 @ Apr 27 2019, 01:03 AM)
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^ excellent points

Question: do TDM have division-scale manoeuvre exercises?
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Sekarang tngah ada Division size exercise kat Sarawak nun
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QUOTE(LTZ @ Apr 27 2019, 10:48 AM)
But now...... at esscom, at airport, etc.... difficult to form up even qt battalion level for integration training
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