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HSH Renovation Journey 11/11 moving day!, Decorating mode
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ObeLIsK
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Jul 17 2018, 12:20 AM
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QUOTE(chichichi @ Jul 16 2018, 11:11 PM) Hello some further update of my renovation, My contractor sends pictures of work done today- master bedroom extension outer wall and inner wall done with cementing and waiting to dry. Then I just realized that I didn’t specify any wiring to be done for that area 😂. Not meticulous enough apparently. So anyways I’m thinking maybe the wiring/adding of electricity points could be done later with the wiremen that will do the plaster ceiling. Based on research, I saw the cheapest wiring point is at rm50 each. At a recent expo, the vendor charges one point at rm65.. hmmm will think more. My house currently is a mess with dirt everywhere so sad. I turn blind eye only lah, and just will make sure my contractor clean everything when he leaves if not I deduct his money haha Some pictures to share with readers here, keep giving me feedback ya! Appreciate it! rm50 per wiring point is really cheap, where you get that? Any idea what kind of wiring they use? I can only share that you should have the power point at a comfortable level (height) too as opposed to the traditional btm near the skirting for convenience sake but also depends on the usage/purpose I guess
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TSchichichi
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Jul 17 2018, 11:31 AM
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QUOTE(ObeLIsK @ Jul 17 2018, 12:20 AM) rm50 per wiring point is really cheap, where you get that? Any idea what kind of wiring they use? I can only share that you should have the power point at a comfortable level (height) too as opposed to the traditional btm near the skirting for convenience sake but also depends on the usage/purpose I guess If im not mistaken, the wiring charge is by my current contractor hehe... i'll have to check with him again and thanks for the tips for power point. will keep that in mind.
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TSchichichi
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Jul 17 2018, 12:15 PM
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Well anyways,
Wanted to ask if it is normal for the workers working in your house to use your shower? Saw them use the showers yesterday, though i could understand and allow it, but i wonder if this is normal practice.
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ObeLIsK
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Jul 17 2018, 06:05 PM
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I guess that depends on the contractor, there's some where the workers would stay in your place too hence using the available utilities.
Personally I think as long as it's not abused should be fine, especially on the bills?
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TSchichichi
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Jul 17 2018, 08:33 PM
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QUOTE(ObeLIsK @ Jul 17 2018, 06:05 PM) I guess that depends on the contractor, there's some where the workers would stay in your place too hence using the available utilities. Personally I think as long as it's not abused should be fine, especially on the bills? Yes I agree as well. But it’s perhaps better if they stick to using only one bathroom or room at any one time rather than using all available ones- which they are doing now. Oh well.
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kirakun
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Jul 17 2018, 08:33 PM
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QUOTE(chichichi @ Jul 17 2018, 12:15 PM) Well anyways, Wanted to ask if it is normal for the workers working in your house to use your shower? Saw them use the showers yesterday, though i could understand and allow it, but i wonder if this is normal practice. There is no normal practice. All boil down to mutual understanding if none written made earlier. Most importantly are u or the contractor is paying the utility bills while the renovation work is ongoing? If u are the one paying then I suppose u have every right to highlight, reprimand and even backcharge to the contractor if there is sudden spike in water and/or electric bill.
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TSchichichi
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Jul 17 2018, 08:40 PM
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Hi, Today I went to the house to check on few things. Over the weekend, I bought few aircond for the house, now thinking very scared about the future water bill 😂 So one of the purchase is a ceiling cassette type aircond, it’s a mini type so the salesperson say need only 1.5 ft clearance from ceiling. I really thought my ceiling was 12ft, but upon checking today, I realized the area I wanted to install was actually 9.7 ft (arghhh).. apparently developer already plaster ceiling that area so I’m guesstimating that the actual ceiling is the same as the ex balcony ceiling which is at 10.7 ft. Assuming the installation requires 1.5 ft, will leave only 9.2 ft. (I am advised that the minimum req is 9.5ft). Nways will check with installer again, and if needed to, will find other place to install the aircond instead. Attached thumbnail(s)
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TSchichichi
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Jul 17 2018, 08:45 PM
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QUOTE(kirakun @ Jul 17 2018, 08:33 PM) There is no normal practice. All boil down to mutual understanding if none written made earlier. Most importantly are u or the contractor is paying the utility bills while the renovation work is ongoing? If u are the one paying then I suppose u have every right to highlight, reprimand and even backcharge to the contractor if there is sudden spike in water and/or electric bill. Yes, I am paying the bills and yes, no written instruction with regards to this. But I feel hesitant to ask my contractor now- don’t want to disrupt the good progress so far. Just want to complete their part fast and will solve this issue at once. But thanks for your views 👍
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TSchichichi
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Jul 17 2018, 09:18 PM
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UPDATE:
Keys collected: March 2018
DEFECT CHECKING: COST RM750
ARKITEK COST: COST RM2500
MAJLIS APPROVAL: COST RM856
Renovation started: 3rd week of June
Master bedroom: hacking of wall, relocate sliding door and window, make bedroom bigger by 6 ft X 12 ft, with red brick wall and concrete slab COST RM8,800 Additional cost: 3ft wall slab accross (30 ft) COST RM1,600 As at 16 July- outer wall, slab done. Debris on porch cleared. In progress refixing the sliding door and casement window.
Family area upstairs: hacking of wall and move sliding door, closed off the balcony to make the family area bigger by 9.5 ft X 5 ft. red brick wall and install same timber flooring as existing COST RM8050
As at 16 July- outer and inner wall done. In progress, smoothing the wall and fixing the new 3 panel casement window.
Back area kitchen: concrete with tiles 30 ft X 10 ft (own tiles), metal alum composite roof and move water pipe to outer wall. COST RM10,700 Own tile guocera 1 ft x 2 ft x 185 pieces RM905 Floor trap tile design x 2 pcs RM76 Hanging lamp x 2 pcs, gate lamp inclusive of LED bulb COST RM230.60
As at 16 July- in progress to apply skirting, sink and pipe not fixed yet. Manhole cover and floor trap not done yet. Lamps not installed yet. Note: forgot to ask for at least one electric point at the back, wonder if it is necessary hmm.
Back wall fencing : 3ft steel fence X 40 ft COST RM3,200 As at 16 July- fence up. Touch up not completed yet
Interior design: RM2500 for a simple design for whole house (no 3D rendering), full spec of measurements and drawing. not done yet, a little slow.. As at 16 July- awfully quiet. I’m getting frustrated with their service and am thinking of just scrapping them and burn the progress payment made so far.
Laminated skylight : 15 ft X 9 ft laminated glass thickness 12.38mm, with aluminium louvers (half) and suspended with steel frame (no beam design). COST RM8,100 Waiting for them to call for site visit.
Shower screen for kids bathroom: 2.5 ft x 6 ft tempered glass (forgot to ask thickness) with aluminium base (to prevent spillage of water out of shower area. COST RM550 Waiting for them to call for site visit
Aircond: Daikin r32 1HP Non inverter P series inclusive installation COST RM1250 Daikin r32 1HP Inverter Q series inclusive installation COST RM1550 Daikin R410A 1HP basic FFN (mini casette) COST RM1850 Installation early August
Wood deck and pebble wash- finding quotation. Koi pond with 2 koi fish - COST RM3k Landscape package (for pond area) - Dracena draco + ficus elastica, white pebble and 4-6 deco concrete slab COST RM700 Installation next week
Artificial grass- finding quotation and still thinking Philippines grass- finding quotation and still thinking Plaster ceiling- still thinking Kitchen cabinet- still thinking Lighting- still thinking
😂😂 many more still thinking!!
That’s all for updates!
This post has been edited by chichichi: Sep 21 2018, 03:59 PM
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ObeLIsK
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Jul 17 2018, 10:41 PM
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How much you paid for the ID?
Just chase them for it, call them every day, the measurements would come in handy, for future reference/use too.
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TSchichichi
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Jul 17 2018, 10:56 PM
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QUOTE(ObeLIsK @ Jul 17 2018, 10:41 PM) How much you paid for the ID? Just chase them for it, call them every day, the measurements would come in handy, for future reference/use too. Only paid 1k so far. They provided some drawing (not 3D) and prepared quotation, but that’s all. Haihh
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elmodistortion
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Jul 18 2018, 05:13 PM
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park.. would like to know your total budget for house renovation.
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kirakun
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Jul 18 2018, 05:51 PM
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QUOTE(chichichi @ Jul 17 2018, 09:18 PM) UPDATE:
Keys collected: March 2018
DEFECT CHECKING: COST RM750 Defect checking: engaged third party defect inspectors, paid RM750 for 2 times inspection (before and after) and full defect report (for submission to developer) 1st defect inspection: end March. Quite a number of defects including hollow/paint spill/hairline crack/ceiling leaking but nothing very major. Submitted defect list to developer, give spare key for them to repair defect. 2nd defect rectification inspection: June 2018. A number of defect not fully repaired such as hollow on certain areas. New leaking on celing detected. Joint defect inspection with developer: June 2018. Developer insist that the tiles not hollow because less than 50%.. insist rectification of few areas with hollow tiles. Developer said will repair.
Renovation started: 3rd week of June
The timing between the defect inspection and your renovation work may spell some trouble for u down the line. Not too sure whether u are aware or not but the owner normally are not encouraged to carry out major renovation work prior to the completion of the defect works by developer and/or during the DLP. Better check your S&P for further clarification. The developer may treat this as a breach and may not honor their end to get the balance defect done.
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TSchichichi
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Jul 18 2018, 06:35 PM
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QUOTE(kirakun @ Jul 18 2018, 05:51 PM) The timing between the defect inspection and your renovation work may spell some trouble for u down the line. Not too sure whether u are aware or not but the owner normally are not encouraged to carry out major renovation work prior to the completion of the defect works by developer and/or during the DLP. Better check your S&P for further clarification. The developer may treat this as a breach and may not honor their end to get the balance defect done. Oh I started work after the defect rectification. Thanks!
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Christinalee778
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Jul 18 2018, 07:30 PM
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For those who look for interior designer and renovation firm, pls beware of a company called M&C Gallery/M&C Concept and Design, the owner is called Melvin and Candy. They are irresponsible company that promise you a lot of things which end up nothing eventually. Only able to perform renovation with poor workmanship and keep on delaying the timeline. If you check the price with other company, their price is much more higher. The so called good quality also is just a lie. If you are looking for interior design, make sure you don’t look for them. When you have problem and look for them to help, they will shout at you like they are doing for free. In fast, you have paid a lot of money to them. They only will treat you good when try to trap you to sign the contact and pay them. Don’t look for them, you will regret!
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TSchichichi
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Jul 18 2018, 08:38 PM
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QUOTE(Christinalee778 @ Jul 18 2018, 07:30 PM) For those who look for interior designer and renovation firm, pls beware of a company called M&C Gallery/M&C Concept and Design, the owner is called Melvin and Candy. They are irresponsible company that promise you a lot of things which end up nothing eventually. Only able to perform renovation with poor workmanship and keep on delaying the timeline. If you check the price with other company, their price is much more higher. The so called good quality also is just a lie. If you are looking for interior design, make sure you don’t look for them. When you have problem and look for them to help, they will shout at you like they are doing for free. In fast, you have paid a lot of money to them. They only will treat you good when try to trap you to sign the contact and pay them. Don’t look for them, you will regret! Christinalee, Sorry to hear that. How much did you pay them? On another note- my ID came through and emailed the detailed drawing! Hooray and bohooo because now I have to pay them huhu
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kirakun
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Jul 18 2018, 10:59 PM
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QUOTE(chichichi @ Jul 18 2018, 06:35 PM) Oh I started work after the defect rectification. Thanks! Good to hear that. Facing the same ‘common’ defects as yours but took months to rectify properly and completely some of the defects lol. Even to date still some pending touch up here and there. Talking about quality and workmanship of houses nowadays.
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Christinalee778
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Jul 19 2018, 11:50 AM
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QUOTE(chichichi @ Jul 18 2018, 08:38 PM) Christinalee, Sorry to hear that. How much did you pay them? On another note- my ID came through and emailed the detailed drawing! Hooray and bohooo because now I have to pay them huhu Hi Chichichi, you also did your ID under this cheater company? I wonder how can I share my experience more effevtively so that no other ppl get cheated. I heard from his worker, many of his project also not able to close.
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TSchichichi
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Jul 19 2018, 02:10 PM
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QUOTE(Christinalee778 @ Jul 19 2018, 11:50 AM) Hi Chichichi, you also did your ID under this cheater company? I wonder how can I share my experience more effevtively so that no other ppl get cheated. I heard from his worker, many of his project also not able to close. Nope- I used a different company. I’m not cheated- thank goodness for that. Nways, if you have a proper agreement etc, why don’t you try to bring them to justice, make police report perhaps or tribunal or something (I’m not really sure tho)
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TSchichichi
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Jul 19 2018, 02:12 PM
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QUOTE(kirakun @ Jul 18 2018, 10:59 PM) Good to hear that. Facing the same ‘common’ defects as yours but took months to rectify properly and completely some of the defects lol. Even to date still some pending touch up here and there. Talking about quality and workmanship of houses nowadays. My defect rectification took about 1 and half month. There still areas that is not completed but with mutual agreement the rectification of these areas will start after I finished my renovation
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