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 4k tv under RM3k, Sony or Samsung or LG??

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post Jul 28 2018, 08:42 AM

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QUOTE(Convael @ Jul 27 2018, 12:15 PM)
You mean the X940E  , X940F doesn't exist yet.
Since you're going to put them in a bright room , you will want a decently bright TV . The NU8000 is the brightest among your list.
The Sony and LG's model are IPS TV , so they can be handy if you have guests gathering around your living room from time to time . But they are not as bright as the NU8000.
Q7FN is a pretty big upgrade over NU8000  , it is an unusually bright and colorful TV which makes it a great performing candidate in a living room. The 65 inches can be a little pricey though . You also mentioned PS4 and watching movie , so you will want to give HDR capabilities of the TV a little consideration.
About the 6800x , I know there are definitely quite some fans of this model .

So I am threading carefully here before they swarm over my inbox like the fanbois from other brands .

6800x is a mid range Sharp TV but they are priced closer to basic 4k TV on the market  , which is amazing value since you get WCG ( not as wide as those OLEDs and QLEDs ) , impressive contrast ( as expected from a VA TV ) , a 60 inches screen in one package .

But when compare with other mid range TVs , their performance instantly crumbles .
Notably the complete lack of motion handling ( which was confirmed by the Chinese reviewers ) , the mediocre TV brightness ( its the dimmest TV out of the 4 ) , the lack of Dynamic meta data HDR support ( such as HDR 10 + &  Dolby Vision )  , the HDR performance also leave a lot to be desired .

It is something they have to compromise for the unbeatable price .
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I just realized that I was posting in a wrong thread. Going to correct thread now. Will reply you there.

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post Jul 28 2018, 06:34 PM

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QUOTE(lamusiqa @ Jul 27 2018, 03:53 PM)
Ahh yes. You're right. I meant to say X940E.

For those who are looking to buy quantum dot TVs for cheap (same tech and popping colours as QLED), I recommend scouting for Samsung's 2016 SUHD line. Excellent brightness, good wide colour gamut performance, low input lag and the prices should be a lot cheaper now. Gaming in HDR on 'Ultra HD Premium' certified TVs really brings out the HDR impact.

The last one I saw was a UA65KS7500 unit at ESH Main Place Mall Subang Jaya for under RM7400. I have this TV and I highly recommend this model. It is even brighter, has wider colour gamut and higher contrast ratio than the latest Samsung 2018 NU8500!
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The KS series from 2016 are indeed spectacular TVs , it is just pathetic Samsung keep removing the features from current line up & put them on separate models to sell for higher price .


NU8500 is basically the curved version of NU8000 .

I don't think they are comparable with the KS series because NU8500 / NU8000 isn't a Quantum Dots TV.
If we have to compare , the KS7500 should go head to head with Q7FN , in which the Q7FN is an upgrade in almost everything especially the brightness .

55' of NU8000 is retailing @ RM4199, 65 inches @ RM6299 , that is still quite a bit cheaper than the now 2 years old KS7500 .


The KS series are definitely a looker especially when it comes to HDR performance. They can reach very high peak brightness in small windows , which ensure those shiny small highlights to glitter in dark HDR scenes. While the NU8000 can't reach the same peak brightness but it is overall , a brighter TV .

The one small problem with the KS series is , they can't sustain the same level of brightness they used to display specular highlights . It is mostly a glimpse into the spark and the brightness quickly fall flat on screen . NU8000 and newer QLEDs can maintain the same brightness level for a long time. This is especially noticeable in prolong HDR scenes with bright objects like the torches , the sun , the moon , the stars etc etc .


I've mentioned before Samsung is dropping the ball for their entry~mid range models every year . KS series is a lot more impressive than the 2017's MU series . The 2018 's entry level models of the NU series are disappointing as well.

This post has been edited by Convael: Jul 29 2018, 08:37 AM
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post Jul 29 2018, 05:35 PM

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http://www.goshop.com.my/prd/20063230.html

I am leaning on this one at the moment. Anyone can advise if this is OK? Would have gotten for a better one but I got several things going kaput around the same time, so a bit short on budget. Is this TV OK?
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post Jul 29 2018, 05:43 PM

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top up a bit go for LG
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post Jul 29 2018, 08:46 PM

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QUOTE(hightechgadgets8 @ Jul 29 2018, 05:43 PM)
top up a bit go for LG
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LG is the worst tv in low end category due to RGBW panel. Hisense is better
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post Jul 29 2018, 08:56 PM

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http://www.goshop.com.my/prd/20064714.html

This OK?

Although the one sold on Goshop seems to come with a 2 year warranty while the ones on Lazada, Shopee etc is with 3 years
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post Jul 29 2018, 10:24 PM

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QUOTE(air_mood @ Jul 29 2018, 08:56 PM)
http://www.goshop.com.my/prd/20064714.html

This OK?

Although the one sold on Goshop seems to come with a 2 year warranty while the ones on Lazada, Shopee etc is with 3 years
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M5010 series is better. 50” rm1899 while 55” is rm2100. Got rm100 voucher in 11street.
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post Jul 29 2018, 10:45 PM

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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Jul 29 2018, 10:24 PM)
M5010 series is better. 50” rm1899 while 55” is rm2100. Got rm100 voucher in 11street.
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I can't seem to find one at those prices. Am I missing something?
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QUOTE(air_mood @ Jul 29 2018, 10:45 PM)
I can't seem to find one at those prices. Am I missing something?
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https://www.11street.my/product/ProductDeta...rom=cart%5Elist
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post Jul 29 2018, 11:36 PM

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Ahh that one. Is there any major difference between the N3000 and the M5010?
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QUOTE(air_mood @ Jul 29 2018, 11:36 PM)
Ahh that one. Is there any major difference between the N3000 and the M5010?
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I not sure how Hisense quality but suggest don't get N3000 as this model don't have HDR support.
M5010 wise came with HDR support.

N3000 - No HDR support - https://hisense.co.za/product/50-uhd-smart-n3000-50n3000uw
M5010 - HDR support - https://hisense.co.za/product/55-uhd-smart-m5010-55m5010uw

No point getting a 4K TV without HDR support.

HDR is the main thing that make you wow in how great the new generation TV, it is nothing much for 4K resolution itself only.
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post Jul 30 2018, 12:42 AM

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QUOTE(Andrewtst @ Jul 30 2018, 12:23 AM)
I not sure how Hisense quality but suggest don't get N3000 as this model don't have HDR support.
M5010 wise came with HDR support.

N3000 - No HDR support - https://hisense.co.za/product/50-uhd-smart-n3000-50n3000uw
M5010 - HDR support - https://hisense.co.za/product/55-uhd-smart-m5010-55m5010uw

No point getting a 4K TV without HDR support.

HDR is the main thing that make you wow in how great the new generation TV, it is nothing much for 4K resolution itself only.
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http://www.hisense.com.my/product/n3000/

Wait, it says HDR here. Or is it not the same?

The HDR column on the M5010 is a bit expanded though.

https://www.hisense.com.my/product/m5010/
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QUOTE(air_mood @ Jul 30 2018, 12:42 AM)
http://www.hisense.com.my/product/n3000/

Wait, it says HDR here. Or is it not the same?

The HDR column on the M5010 is a bit expanded though.

https://www.hisense.com.my/product/m5010/
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I worried it is wrong information as it only show in specification but not the introduction page.
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QUOTE(Andrewtst @ Jul 30 2018, 12:43 AM)
I worried it is wrong information as it only show in specification but not the introduction page.
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I'll research a bit. I'm a bit blur on buying TV to be honest. It's been quite a while since I needed to buy one. Hahaha.
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post Jul 30 2018, 10:14 AM

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QUOTE(air_mood @ Jul 30 2018, 12:46 AM)
I'll research a bit. I'm a bit blur on buying TV to be honest. It's been quite a while since I needed to buy one. Hahaha.
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if u hv not bought a tv for a long time, u do need to check a bit more! biggrin.gif

the most impt thing is what u use the tv for.

if u r tight on budget and have no need for "advanced" features, <rm2000 for <50" will be alright.

but if u plan to do more in the near future, it will be better to spend a bit more, future proof it a bit.


hisense is no longer a tiny brand - they are quite popular in north america now.

hdr is necessary if u r watching netflix 4k or playing back 2160p hdr videos.

but if u r just using astro, hypptv, 1080p bluray or common apps, there is no big need for HDR.


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post Jul 30 2018, 10:22 AM

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Looking for another TV, and this sony x7000f is out, any review on this entry level tv?
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post Jul 30 2018, 10:59 AM

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https://www.11street.my/productdetail/haier...led-tv-60731471

any difference between haier and hisense? friend is looking for a budget 4k tv also
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post Jul 30 2018, 11:52 AM

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Samsung NU7100
Sony X7000f

Both 55" 2018 model, less then rm3000

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post Jul 30 2018, 12:17 PM

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At this price range , HDR really shouldn't be a concern .


TVs within this price range just don't have specs to be classified as "HDR TV" , despite of the brands' claims.

Especially when we consider HDR mastered content are normally dimmer than SDR , if the TV lacks the brightness to show off the HDR highlights the pictures will appear washed out. The UHD Alliance sets the 1000 cd/m2 requirement for HDR for a reason.


If you just want to get a 4k TV & save some money , there are plenty of basic 4k models to choose from . Just pick one you can find cheapest.

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post Jul 30 2018, 12:20 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Jul 30 2018, 10:14 AM)
if u hv not bought a tv for a long time, u do need to check a bit more! biggrin.gif

the most impt thing is what u use the tv for.

if u r tight on budget and have no need for "advanced" features, <rm2000 for <50" will be alright.

but if u plan to do more in the near future, it will be better to spend a bit more, future proof it a bit.
hisense is no longer a tiny brand - they are quite popular in north america now.

hdr is necessary if u r watching netflix 4k or playing back 2160p hdr videos.

but if u r just using astro, hypptv, 1080p bluray or common apps, there is no big need for HDR.
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Last one I got was free one 48" Samsung LED Smart TV off an office family day lucky draw. So I did not buy that one. That was the TV that went kaput. My actual plan is getting a TV for now. When current situation betters itself, is to get a better TV for the hall and stick the one I'm buying now in my room.

I was leaning on the N3000 because reading the reviews apparently it has HDR and is also a smart TV. Was initially just planning to get the Haier as that was even cheaper.

On what I use the TV for. I currently have Astro, PS4(not Pro) and my PC connected via the HDMI ports on my TV.

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