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post May 21 2007, 12:00 PM

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QUOTE(Aoshi_88 @ May 21 2007, 11:50 AM)
You guys forget... DUNE is the true grandfather of RTS games.
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That'd be Dune 2. Dune was an adventure game.
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post May 21 2007, 12:07 PM

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Hey guys, found an existing word and definition for DOTArd:

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dotard (plural dotards)

1. an old person with impaired intellect; one in his dotage
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BWHAHAHAA!!!

Let's add this:

2. a person who plays DOTA and thinks he's an RTS gamer;


Source: http://wordnavigator.com/word/dotard/

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QUOTE(dattebayo @ May 21 2007, 12:23 AM)
should be ok coz its dx9 card. But i think it will be very lag to play even on 800*600
ya no prob... of course not the ultra high settings
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i have a question
sc 2 running on warcraft III engine or has it a new engine?
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post May 21 2007, 01:15 PM

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QUOTE(sean392 @ May 21 2007, 01:14 PM)
i have a question
sc 2 running on warcraft III engine or has it a new engine?
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It's a brand new engine with a physics engine in it.
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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ May 21 2007, 01:15 PM)
It's a brand new engine with a physics engine in it.
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nice
no wonder it took so long
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i wonder wat are the new zerg n terran units

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post May 21 2007, 02:33 PM

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Eeeks, now suddenly thinking, anyone gotta make the gundam century mdo for SC2 ar? Hee hee (of course not the terran overpower again) tongue.gif tongue.gif tongue.gif rolleyes.gif rolleyes.gif
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post May 21 2007, 02:38 PM

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1. Quantity vs. Quality

As opposed to Warcraft III where the player controls a few units with many different special abilities, Starcraft 2 will be a numbers game:

    Starcraft 2 [units] will instead act as "movers and shooters"-mostly autonomous forces that generally lack special abilities, but will instead be used in large control groups to "do their own thing" in battle, rather than requiring the micromanagement of high-level Warcraft III play.

2. More emphasis on economic activity

Another comparison to Warcraft III which had relatively little emphasis on the economy, so players can focus on battles instead. Starcraft 2 will have its pronounced emphasis on bases and expansions as a means of achieving victory.

3. Rushing - strongly encouraged

Unlike Warcraft which introduced neutral creeps to keep the players occupied, Starcraft 2 will put more emphasis on rushing. Engaging the enemy early and keeping him occupied will distinguish good players from mediocre ones. Which leads us to...

4. The good, the bad, and the GOSU

According to Pardo, Warcraft III was more forgiving to beginners (and lamers!). In Starcraft 2, the gap in the level will be a lot more evident. Pro players will be able to mow down their opponents in record time by way of builds, multitasking, and quick expansions:

    Starcraft 2 ... will appeal to hardcore fans by being geared toward "highly competitive, skill-based gameplay," as well as by efforts to "continue to drive new features onto Battle.net".

5. Beyond rock-paper-scissors

Starcraft 2 units will introduce more and more subtle ways to counter the opponent's strategy. The key to good counters will be timing, maneuverability, and position (there's a brand new implementation of higher ground - more damage, fog of war).

    The protoss phoenix, a flying unit, has a special "overload" ability that creates a damaging energy field around itself, then renders it immobile and helpless shortly afterward. In a simulated battle between a player with six phoenix units and another player with only four, the player with six phoenixes apparently chokes and uses the overload ability too early, allowing the other player to dodge out of harm's way, then arrange the four phoenixes around the now immobile six in a loose formation and overload the six into oblivion.


http://www.maxfreak.com/starcraft2/archive...and-warcraft-3/


hmmm totally different take on tactics
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QUOTE(zsbong @ May 20 2007, 07:13 PM)
Zerg gives me this very dirty feeling... then when u click the units... all those SQUISHY SQUASHY sound...  zergling rush then straight mutalisk raid ends a game damn quickly .
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Hmm u remind me of JAp H-games H-animes and AVs..... laugh.gif

QUOTE(Vorador @ May 20 2007, 07:26 PM)
Argh Araes you got me an idea!

See, SC2 NO NEED to follow traditional RTS game play to give surprise, like 1 super weapon, or 1 super unit, or few heros for each faction. But instead, it SC2 might take the best amond them! Imagine this: Protoss got Mother ship, Terran got Nuke, Zerg got <insert your suggestion here>, how cool !
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Aren those in traditional RTS too? Esp nukes its in every RTS almost.

QUOTE(Cheesenium @ May 20 2007, 08:42 PM)
I think Protoss Phoenix will replace Scout.

Firebat should be there because it's suppose to be a melee unit for terran while Reaper is more like a harassing unit and a bit like Zone Trooper.
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Yeah, me to and I feel that makes protoss loose their air superiority. :<

QUOTE(RtP|DEV @ May 21 2007, 01:59 AM)
Hmm.. no way Blizzard got fed up with DotA. Some ppl bought WC3 just to play DotA!!
I think Blizzard got plan for em dotards, Diablo 3. I believe Diablo 3 multiplayer will be played like DotA. Imagine DotA style gameplay but with many different maps to choose. Orgasm for them dotards. See, Blizzard got some brain there, those dotards will stay out of SC2(everyone will be happy) while blizzard squeezes money from dotards using Diablo 3.
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LoL Thats be funny, yeah squeeze the dotards squezze them dry.

QUOTE(Aoshi_88 @ May 21 2007, 11:50 AM)
You guys forget... DUNE is the true grandfather of RTS games.
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Yup good old dune2.

QUOTE(Yue @ May 21 2007, 11:59 AM)
anti-dota sentiment it seems... hell with that iam in... DOTArds love to be called pro or whatever s**tazz... i never see any great achievement playing a modded game which is item dependant...

BTW back to SC2, iam more into the storyline... hell i love all the storyline from all of the blizzards franchise, whether its diablo,Warcraft or starcraft... it's all nicely elaborated and beautifully decorated... The Storyline is my priority here then comes Multiplayer... lol
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Yup I think blizzard makes the most ballanced games interms of campaign and Multiplayer too. Their game storyline kicks ass, unlike some other games where they have good storyline back ground but they cant follow i through in the game.

QUOTE(Vorador @ May 21 2007, 02:33 PM)
Eeeks, now suddenly thinking, anyone gotta make the gundam century mdo for SC2 ar? Hee hee (of course not the terran overpower again) tongue.gif tongue.gif tongue.gif  rolleyes.gif  rolleyes.gif
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yeah that was a classic too, but I recon that gundam should be imba just like in the animes. Where once they come out they cant die and pwns all.
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Yes man, in the anime 1 gundam can vs 100 zaku no prob, that's why in Gundam Century, terran is overpower~~ I believe it will be very beautiful to make SC2 of Gundam Century !
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QUOTE(Vorador @ May 21 2007, 02:47 PM)
Yes man, in the anime 1 gundam can vs 100 zaku no prob, that's why in Gundam Century, terran is overpower~~ I believe it will be very beautiful to make SC2 of Gundam Century !
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Every unit is a super weapon then.
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Aiks, means this time make it balance lar, no more Gundam force overwhelm everythign again...
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This game looks damn cun wei! Blizzard so sneaky can keep everything a secret until recently. Clearance for Blizzard staff must be like Pentagon.. tongue.gif

Keep replaying the gameplay trailer. Everything so smooth-flowing.. drool.gif
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QUOTE(mukhlisz @ May 21 2007, 05:01 PM)
This game looks damn cun wei! Blizzard so sneaky can keep everything a secret until recently. Clearance for Blizzard staff must be like Pentagon.. tongue.gif

Keep replaying the gameplay trailer. Everything so smooth-flowing.. drool.gif
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Nah, this got leaked a few months by some Korean dudes... Valve did a far better job with HL2 IMHO... During E3, it was like "Whoa, didn't see that coming!"... Nobody expected anything. For this, there was like speculation after speculation over the last 2 months over what the hell Blizzard was going to do. For Valve, they had pretty much fallen off the face of the earth UNTIL they showed it off at E3.

Another example of blind Blizzard fanboyism.
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lolz... H@H@ dun so bad le~ XD ppl cry later xD ... I tot the korean dudes last year say liao? lol

Anyway, i saw some article saying blizz going to announce new wow expension pack or diablo3 on august? isit true? huhu blur liao

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QUOTE(H@H@ @ May 21 2007, 05:07 PM)
Nah, this got leaked a few months by some Korean dudes... Valve did a far better job with HL2 IMHO... During E3, it was like "Whoa, didn't see that coming!"... Nobody expected anything. For this, there was like speculation after speculation over the last 2 months over what the hell Blizzard was going to do. For Valve, they had pretty much fallen off the face of the earth UNTIL they showed it off at E3.

Another example of blind Blizzard fanboyism.
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ah I remember Half-Life 2.
It was like all... "Omg Doom 3 looks freaking sweet Its gonna be awesome!"...until HL2 was previewed.
It became "Doom 3 sucks lol HL2 wins."
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QUOTE(H@H@ @ May 21 2007, 05:07 PM)
Another example of blind Blizzard fanboyism.
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Ouch. U always shoot down ppl like that? a fan? yes. Blind loyalty? Hardly..



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