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vapanel
post Nov 13 2023, 03:38 PM

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QUOTE(13itcher @ Nov 13 2023, 03:33 PM)
Initially I wanted to get LG C3 65inch, but the price for C3 is about RM 1.5k more expensive.
So I just go with S90C. Hopefully it is a right choice
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It's right choice because c3 is dimmer and less colour than s90c
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QUOTE(vapanel @ Nov 13 2023, 02:52 PM)
How is hdr with qn85c?

Have any bad blooming?

Got light leakage?

Dirty screen?
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Refer my review below @ post #623


QUOTE(ZeneticX @ Aug 15 2023, 07:50 PM)
A quick review / feedback of my 65" QN85C after I've been using it for a week. Decided to do this since the model is the only Neo QLED miniled model to have 65 inch and above unless u decide to go for QN95C. (QN90C only have 43 and 50"). U can skip to bottom if TLDR

Some context, this is my first TV purchase for my new house. Never had any ownership experience with any brands or models before, but did a lot of study and research online and based on that Samsung was not my first choice initially (no Dolby Vision, Tizen OS etc). I've always been a fan of Sony and naturally wanted their TV as well based on mostly good feedback and reviews.

So how did I end up with Samsung? Initially I set my eyes on OLED (LG or Sony), but after careful consideration regarding budget and taking into account my usage, I decided to skip OLED and go for miniLED instead. However when it comes to miniLED the choice is very limited in our market. Long story short I decided the QN85C would be the best compromise when it comes to image quality and features for my budget (wanted QN95B but couldnt find one for my budget range)

Summary of pros and cons. Usage is mostly youtube and netflix

Pros
- Very slim and nice design, especially if you are wall mounting

- Almost complete feature set for a mid-high end TV including  4x 48gbps HDMI 2.1 (no other brands except LG provide this)

- Overall image quality is very good after playing around with the settings. It also gets bright enough during HDR scenes (~1200 nits). There's also very minimal blooming during dark scenes when I set local dimming to High (there's low and standard setting). 720 dimming zones + miniLED really helps. I can probably say there is almost no blooming (OLED like) unless i go and look for it. I use local dimming high for HDR content and local dimming standard for SDR.

- The sound quality from the TV speakers is OK, I would say above average after changing some settings. Definitely good enough for most users. One advantage for Samsung TVs is you get Q Symphony when u pair the TV with one of their good soundbars like Q990B/C which I plan to do in the near future.

Cons
- The Tizen OS. Its not as bad as I would expect actually. Like most complaints are regarding the usability, but I got used to it very fast and the 2023 version have a few improvements like the quick settings menu. Still once a while I get some lag or stuttering while navigating the menu and settings, also the available apps are not as much as Google TV for sure. The biggest issue was on the first day where my wifi would disconnect randomly and refuse to connect back eventhough my wifi is fine, only after i reset the network settings then it would work, but it would still disconnect after a few hours or next day. Googled and found out that its a common Samsung TV issued. Did a fix and now its no longer disconnecting so all good there, but I imagine this would put a lot of people off who just got their new TV.

- No Dolby Vision. I just included this here because it is what it is. But to be honest for me.... I dont think it matters nor you can tell the difference unless you are very used to Dolby Vision content until you can tell the difference or you have another similar range TV for comparison side by side. The image quality itself even without Dolby Vision already looks very good in HDR. Maybe its not accurate but who cares unless you do, then you are probably better off with Sony

- Content upscaling, motion handling may not be as good as Sony. Again I dont have a Sony to compare or owned a Sony before to know, but some 1080p or 720p videos from Youtube look exactly the same (as in you can tell its lower resolution). I'm not sure how well Sony does in this regard.

- Reflection handling is quite bad. This is probably the biggest con for me. My TV is near the sliding door to the balcony, and during day time the reflection is pretty bad especially during dark scenes. Fortunately for HDR it gets bright enough to overcome the reflection but you still can see reflections during dark scenes. If u plan to get this TV, make sure its not near any window or door openings for optimal viewing.

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Conclusion I am very satisfied with the TV for the price (got it for 7.5k including wall bracket and installation). There's no better choice for miniLED in this price tbh unless u can find a new QN95B or go for Sony X90L/X90K but those are not miniLED. My heart is still with Sony though biggrin.gif my next TV will most probably be Sony, hopefully can afford their QD OLED or miniLED by that time
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post Nov 13 2023, 03:44 PM

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QUOTE(ZeneticX @ Nov 13 2023, 03:40 PM)
Refer my review below @ post #623
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But currently s90C same price as qn85c

Which one will you choose?
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QUOTE(vapanel @ Nov 13 2023, 03:44 PM)
But currently s90C same price as qn85c

Which one will you choose?
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I'll go for QN95C maybe. I feel I still prefer miniLED for the time being

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QUOTE(ZeneticX @ Nov 13 2023, 03:40 PM)
Refer my review below @ post #623
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You praise Sony X90L so much why you didn't go for 65" X90L?

I am asking because I plan to get X90L or qn85c

I am skeptical with Sony X90L because it's not mini led

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QUOTE(vapanel @ Nov 13 2023, 03:46 PM)
You praise Sony X90L so much why you didn't go for 65" X90L?

I am asking because I plan to get X90L or qn85c

I am skeptical with Sony X90L because it's not mini led
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You answered it, its not mini led. Blooming wise it definitely won't win QN85C but for what it is its actually very good. And also support for Dolby Vision but its not a main concern to me since I'm not used to Dolby Vision in the first place

And finally is the pricing. During my time X90L is more expensive than QN85C

I would say they are both still pretty on par when it comes to image quality. Just need to see what you're looking for. X90L 88 dimming zones definitely won't win over the 720 zones of the QN85C no matter how good is the algorithm.

This is obvious when you compare the contrast ratio from the 2 reviews below. QN85C 87391 : 1 vs X90L 42222 : 1. QN85C have more than double the contrast ratio

https://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/sony/x90l-x90cl

Note that this QN85C review is for ADS panel. Ours is VA panel which in theory should have much higher native contrast
https://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/samsung/qn85c-qn85cd-qled

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QUOTE(ZeneticX @ Nov 13 2023, 04:01 PM)
You answered it, its not mini led. Blooming wise it definitely won't win QN85C but for what it is its actually very good. And also support for Dolby Vision but its not a main concern to me since I'm not used to Dolby Vision in the first place

And finally is the pricing. During my time X90L is more expensive than QN85C

I would say they are both still pretty on par when it comes to image quality. Just need to see what you're looking for. X90L 88 dimming zones definitely won't win over the 720 zones of the QN85C no matter how good is the algorithm.

This is obvious when you compare the contrast ratio from the 2 reviews below. QN85C 87391 : 1 vs X90L 42222 : 1. QN85C have more than double the contrast ratio

https://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/sony/x90l-x90cl

Note that this QN85C review is for ADS panel. Ours is VA panel which in theory should have much higher native contrast
https://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/samsung/qn85c-qn85cd-qled
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Ok I am convinced to get 85" QN85C now. Thanks bro
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QUOTE(vapanel @ Nov 13 2023, 04:19 PM)
Ok I am convinced to get 85" QN85C now. Thanks bro
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Survey around if u can find QN95C for similar pricing first
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QUOTE(ZeneticX @ Nov 13 2023, 04:26 PM)
Survey around if u can find QN95C for similar pricing first
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I cannot find 85" QN95C.

Did you see any?
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QUOTE(vapanel @ Nov 13 2023, 04:29 PM)
I cannot find 85" QN95C.

Did you see any?
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Not sure if still available

https://s.lazada.com.my/s.S1rl4

How much is your budget anyway? 85 inch is a must?,
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QUOTE(ZeneticX @ Nov 13 2023, 04:33 PM)
Not sure if still available

https://s.lazada.com.my/s.S1rl4

How much is your budget anyway? 85 inch is a must?,
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Oh wow the price so good

10k-12k is fine

I buy TV like 10 years once so better buy biggest
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QUOTE(ZeneticX @ Nov 13 2023, 04:33 PM)
Not sure if still available

https://s.lazada.com.my/s.S1rl4

How much is your budget anyway? 85 inch is a must?,
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https://s.lazada.com.my/s.S1I6O

Same shop buy selling q70c same price as qn95c

Price increase a lot??? 😭😭😭
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QUOTE(vapanel @ Nov 13 2023, 04:44 PM)
https://s.lazada.com.my/s.S1I6O

Same shop buy selling q70c same price as qn95c

Price increase a lot??? 😭😭😭
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QN95C had a very huge price drop recently. Apparently Samsung Msia is discontinuing it. So better check with sellers if stock is still available or if its display unit
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QUOTE(ZeneticX @ Nov 13 2023, 04:46 PM)
QN95C had a very huge price drop recently. Apparently Samsung Msia is discontinuing it. So better check with sellers if stock is still available or if its display unit
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Just checked

Already discon

Is rm11k, I think the shop people already bought it themselves

Hecked , Samsung employee will buy it first haha
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QUOTE(vapanel @ Nov 13 2023, 01:02 PM)
Probably no Dolby Vision (Netflix only have Dolby vision) and expensive (economic downturn)

The electrical shop nearby me keep asking me to buy LG and avoid Samsung
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Personally I will avoid Samsung, as I has bad experiences with their product quality. For both LG and Sony I am fine.
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QUOTE(vapanel @ Nov 13 2023, 05:14 PM)
Just checked

Already discon

Is rm11k, I think the shop people already bought it themselves

Hecked , Samsung employee will buy it first haha
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Lazada seller “my home” doesn’t want to honour 65” S90C 6.9k pricing and cancelled my order. mad.gif sad.gif ranting.gif
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QUOTE(Kiding @ Nov 15 2023, 11:28 AM)
Lazada seller “my home” doesn’t want to honour 65” S90C 6.9k pricing and cancelled my order. mad.gif  sad.gif  ranting.gif
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Wow bad seller

I think outside also sell same price

I already ask few sellers

Also rm13k S90C 77" is display set

Beware

Only Harvey norman sell new s90c 77" new
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QUOTE(Kiding @ Nov 15 2023, 11:28 AM)
Lazada seller “my home” doesn’t want to honour 65” S90C 6.9k pricing and cancelled my order. mad.gif  sad.gif  ranting.gif
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Same here, was called to change my order of rm 6.28k 65qn95c. Changed to 75u7k with small topup though😑
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QUOTE(vapanel @ Nov 15 2023, 11:59 AM)
Wow bad seller

I think outside also sell same price

I already ask few sellers

Also rm13k S90C 77" is display set

Beware

Only Harvey norman sell new s90c 77" new
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better go for brand new , peace of mind
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QUOTE(Zhao @ Nov 15 2023, 12:00 PM)
Same here, was called to change my order of rm 6.28k 65qn95c. Changed to 75u7k with small topup though😑
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How much top-up 75u7k?

I heard 75u7k is IPS panel


QUOTE(GamersFamilia @ Nov 15 2023, 04:06 PM)
better go for brand new , peace of mind
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Ya

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