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speedy3210
post Jan 23 2019, 11:05 PM

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If any1 have doubt in Vanli, may I suggest this; just go to google map and search for vanli. then take a look at the size and number (quantity) of their shops and decide from there.

much like giant/tesco/aeonbig, do you think it is worthwhile for them to cheat you? Give it a thought and share with us what you think.
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post Jan 24 2019, 09:57 AM

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Vanli has been around for a long time. Bought a lot of ori parts from them.
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post Jan 24 2019, 11:40 AM

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QUOTE(diversity @ Jan 23 2019, 09:52 PM)
What car are you driving that you're so selective about the oil?

You don't need to top end products nor need to buy from petrol stations which are very expensive, but at least don't cheap out. If you're afraid, get this shell oil instead, northern american formulation, very unlikely to have faked out as the packaging is too rare in local market (if you're worry about the helix ultra being fake) :

https://www.lazada.com.my/products/formula-...4a05nklOMR&mp=1

(they also available in shopee, can use free shipping coupon to save on shipping fees)

I got myself this some time ago, sealed 6 quart box.
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post Jan 24 2019, 04:35 PM

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That owl station at Lazala still selling freely without any action from Lazada... Omg..
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post Feb 20 2019, 02:56 PM

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Thanks so very much!!

QUOTE(voscar @ Oct 21 2018, 11:36 AM)
Don't use, it's not "Made For Malaysia".
Your car will suffer heat stroke or getting flu due to non tropicalized formula, there's no spices curry formula into it.
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The "Made in Malaysia" is an effort from Shell to stop parallel imports for eo meant for other region saja. But quality wise, should be same. Eo is dependant on viscocity etcc, dun think the mix is any different between tropical or not.

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post Feb 20 2019, 04:34 PM

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most supported vanli, but the few oil i wanted. alot comment said old stock. lol
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post Feb 21 2019, 09:39 AM

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QUOTE(1tanmee @ Feb 20 2019, 02:56 PM)
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Thanks so very much!!
The "Made in Malaysia" is an effort from Shell to stop parallel imports for eo meant for other region saja. But quality wise, should be same. Eo is dependant on viscocity etcc, dun think the mix is any different between tropical or not.
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Yes agreed. Some made confusion that the local bottles had this the localized composition etc. Which is just wrong. As eo had to comply with API rating etc
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post Feb 21 2019, 06:15 PM

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QUOTE(joefacker @ Oct 23 2018, 04:25 PM)
bro, where's ur shop in Ipoh?  biggrin.gif
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Sorry for the overdue reply, my shop is located in Bercham, Ipoh. Please google for Dong Jin Trading you will be able to find it. We are situated right by the main road smile.gif
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post Mar 4 2019, 12:08 PM

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QUOTE(drewandcutascar @ Sep 22 2018, 05:35 PM)
As a part shop owner and online seller that deals with engine oil of various brands, allow me to shed some light on the industry. EO sold in supermarkets/hypermarkets are usually direct import stock from EU or sourced out from Petronas Malaysia itself. Do take note that their packaging would differ from what we can purchase from petrol stations or reputable part shops. Here is why:

Many do not know that most EO sold in our domestic market are actually packed locally under the authorizations of the respective principles such as BP (Castrol), JXTG (Eneos) or Pennzoil (technically owned by Royal Dutch Shell). There are exceptions where authorized distributors import higher end ranges from mainly Singapore (Mobil 1), Hong Kong (Shell) and or Thailand (Castrol).

These products' packaging may vary to what is found in hypermarkets but rest assured they are deemed genuine oil as well. For example, we would never see the same EO lineup between the official Pennzoil USA and Pennzoil Malaysia sites. UMW is the authorized manufacturer & distributor for Pennzoil in Malaysia, refining and packaging are done locally, hence explaining the lack of the Ultra Platinum range in our domestic market. It's usually either due to higher cost or incompatible formulation for various regions.

As for Castrol, Mobil and Elf, these brands are being sold in our country through regional distributors: Northern (Perlis Kedah Penang Perak), Central (Selangor N9 Malacca) and Southern (Johor Pahang) etc. To me it is a pain in the ass because a Central regional distributor cannot deal with a Perak retailer/wholesaler due to a "No Cross-border" industry policy, vice versa. In short, these are the few companies holding distributorships of major brands monopolizing their "arranged areas".

By this point I'm sure many are spitting and questioning "What about the ones being sold on Lazada, Shopee and other platforms?"

The truth is, most distributors prohibit vendors to market their products online apart from their own official channels. Liqui Moly is actually prohibited to be sold online. Castrol distributors take a 'one eye open one eye close' approach. Which all leads us to this uncertain gray area where most online vendors operate. Some sellers in the online market are actually the distributors themselves, some are major authorized dealers like Vanli, some are small fry like myself and some are what we call bad apples of the industry. As per the ongoing scandals on fake oil, the operations are usually more rampant in KL and Klang Valley areas due to high demand and competitive pricing, but this has now affected other parts of Malaysia because some vendors purchase 'cheap' supplies from hot areas and reselling them at a huge price slash.

Through a few discussions with my own distributors (based in Ipoh, that puts me in the North), we concluded that the lube industry in Malaysia is a vague, competitive wild wild west in expense of the innocent consumers. It is good that KPDNKK are taking complaints, and actions against the bad apples. As a vendor myself, I do acknowledge the accountability that sellers should hold to buyers - to provide genuine quality at a fair price. Though we all know that is not always the case in this flawed system, I urge that consumers to not cheap out on what they put into their vehicles. It is true that most want the best bang for the buck, but very often this demand pushes for the supply of cheap, low quality shady products which exist in our very surrounding.

To ensure your peace of mind, the primary solution is to get services done in your vehicles' respective SC. If the unreasonably high cost is a concern, EO sold in Tesco/Aeon/Giant are definitely legit, do take note that EU formulations and additives might not be the best for our tropical climate but rest assured, they are safe to use. If you have a favorite part/online shop where you frequent, don't feel shy to ask them questions on the product you're buying into, it is your right and their job to enlighten you. IF, the price is too good to be true, it is definitely too good to be true. Shop wisely, carefully but not cheaply! Cheers all smile.gif
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thank you for sharing those information.
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post Mar 10 2019, 07:44 AM

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ECAS is reliable shop in lazada?
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QUOTE(agen290 @ Jan 24 2019, 04:35 PM)
That owl station at Lazala still selling freely without any action from Lazada... Omg..
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Yes, they are also selling the so called Honda Genuine Oil. I've spoken to an authorized Honda Stockist and they informed me that even their cost price from Honda can't match Owl's Station's engine oil pricing.

So I assume they are selling fakes unless they can inform or educate users on how they can sell it so cheap.
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post Mar 10 2019, 09:34 PM

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So conclu buy from aeon/Tesco and authorized SC ?
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post Mar 10 2019, 10:20 PM

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QUOTE(nightzstar @ Mar 10 2019, 09:34 PM)
So conclu buy from aeon/Tesco and authorized SC ?
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Yes if u want best value for money. Else buy retail price at sc or petrol station
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post Mar 10 2019, 11:56 PM

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Engine oil (EO) selling in Tesco/AEON/GIant are legit and their supplies are approved vendors with proper procedures.

I bought mine EO in TESCO since couple of years back, and never look back then smile.gif
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post Mar 12 2019, 02:49 PM

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QUOTE(rcracer @ Mar 10 2019, 07:44 AM)
ECAS is reliable shop in lazada?
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EC Auto spares , anyone tried before ?
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QUOTE(rcracer @ Mar 12 2019, 02:49 PM)
EC Auto spares , anyone tried before ?
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Sorry, no info about that stores but the price looks ok, not too cheap or expensive.
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post Mar 14 2019, 12:42 PM

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For mobil 1, go to their website. Look for places to buy. Visit them. Pay the full retail price. You won't go wrong there. The same can be said about other brands.

The margin for EO is very slim if they take from original manufacturer. The original manufacturer can sell to these distributors but they cannot stop these distributors from mixed genuine with fake goods. OM also gave up on enforcing their rights so it's a buyers beware market for EO.

If you want it cheap, please be prepared to bear the risk.
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post Mar 14 2019, 12:53 PM

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pity those genuine honest EO seller.
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post Mar 14 2019, 01:01 PM

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QUOTE(buyou12 @ Mar 14 2019, 12:42 PM)
For mobil 1, go to their website. Look for places to buy. Visit them. Pay the full retail price. You won't go wrong there. The same can be said about other brands.

The margin for EO is very slim if they take from original manufacturer. The original manufacturer can sell to these distributors but they cannot stop these distributors from mixed genuine with fake goods. OM also gave up on enforcing their rights so it's a buyers beware market for EO.

If you want it cheap, please be prepared to bear the risk.
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Who said EO margin very slim/small.. EO margin around 40% - 50%.. Derrr.. coz I have work as runner at big sparepart shop before & got sibling / frend running a few petrol station till now..

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post Mar 14 2019, 01:03 PM

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QUOTE(rcracer @ Mar 10 2019, 07:44 AM)
ECAS is reliable shop in lazada?
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Yes.. u can pay a visit thier store somewhere around Gombak or Batu Caves..

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