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joshhd
post Feb 17 2019, 11:48 AM

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QUOTE(pokemon @ Feb 17 2019, 10:30 AM)
Assthrow should discontinue those duplicate channels in SD, like WLT, AEC, Supersport and etc, if they dare
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That can only happen once Astro phase out all use of legacy Astro STBs, and only B.yond boxes are used.
The correct term is, SD/HD simulcast channels
Not duplicate channels.

QUOTE(nexona88 @ Feb 17 2019, 11:35 AM)
Well slowly they would do that..forced everyone to subscribe HD services... My take next 2 years...
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During the introduction phase of B.yond HD box back in around 2010 era, it was compulsory to take HD service.
But now it's no longer the case. Using B.yond box not necessary must subscribe to HD service or Family HD pack.
Although yeah, Astro will encourage customer to take HD service, especially when promoting new packages and offerings.

In my opinion, Astro has no urgency to force every customers to use B.yond box. After all, it doesn't really benefit them much even though every customers use B.yond box. MPEG4 compression? MPEG4 quality does benefit customers cuz it is better picture quality, but it doesn't really benefit them much. Astro doesn't have any lack of satellite bandwidth problems. I do find that Astro's Ku band capacities are not so fully utilised, even though they still use MPEG2 for their SD channels until today.

And since the legacy STBs can still be used, customers be like "Why should I change? It can still be used and still in good condition. Change B.yond box means need to pay more."
So Astro will just let the legacy STB users continue using it until it spoil for whatever reasons, and then Astro replace it with new B.yond box. And then, convince them to take HD service, although it is optional now, as well as whatever attractive packages.

Once the number of legacy STB users has reached a new low (perhaps they planned that once it reached this low), then only they'll announce that they'll discontinue the use of all legacy STBs, and have to upgrade to B.yond box to continue watching Astro or Njoi. This, will be a forced migration to B.yond platform.

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post Feb 18 2019, 10:52 AM

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QUOTE(joshhd @ Feb 16 2019, 12:05 AM)
1. I did mention that:
I did not say original feed of the channel has no ads. There are certain advertisement brands where it is actually transmitted by original feed, common ones such as Trivago, Colgate, Darlie, etc. Not all premium channels are free from branded commercial. But do you think is a good thing from the customer's perspective, for Astro to slot in ads of their own, even the Astro customers are a paying customers? You think we pay money to Astro, besides to watch programmes, but also to watch advertisements that Astro in particular, want us to watch as well? Well you could say, oh yes it encourages consumers to spend more money in other ways (in Astro and out of Astro), increases consumer spending power. If that's the case, then Astro is not just a pay TV company. Astro is also an advertisement company, similar like Google. And yet, we don't pay anything to Google to get services because they depend on ads to survive.
Astro is like, using customer like a tool for them to earn more money and create win-win situation for both Astro and the business clients. From what I see, Astro is trying their very best to profiteer, make market share as big as possible, and then earn kaokao. We pay money, to watch advertisement. You see that? Astro's business model now is like, cheap pay TV provider where they also depend on ads to cover up their overall costs, yet how much you pay for your Astro per month to get better content? If you subscribe the very minimum Family pack only, or Njoi, then don't say la. Can't afford expensive rates? Well, you have the option to subscribe lesser packages, or get Njoi and watch lesser content lor. Simple. That's it. For Astro, it's nothing.
If Astro likes to slot in ads so much, then they better just make their Astro subscription to be very cheap and affordable, not by offering expensive rates packages (e.g Sports Pack could costs RM50+/month, depending on package subscription) and then let us watch more advertisements they want us to watch. And yet, they monopoly the pay TV market since 1996, so they can charge whatever rates they want because there's no active and strong pay TV competitor like Astro in Malaysia.
Unifi TV? Nah. No need to mention about that, if you know what I mean.

2. Cross-promote between own channel network is definitely common.
Example: Discovery Asia promotes a programme from Discovery Channel.

What I am referring is, Astro is the one who slot in/replace with their own ads. Astro is the one who "edit" the original feed into their own liking and preference, so it is no longer original anymore, like content tampering from original.

Example: DIVA show Astro Best movies ad.
Both DIVA and Astro Best are not related at all, it is obvious that Astro modify from the original feed.

Example: AXN channel on Astro airs an ad about a latest Korean drama airing on Oh!K (ch394), and then tell viewers to subscribe to Korean Pack at CH200.

AXN belongs to Sony Pictures Television (also same as Animax, One HD ch393,..), while Oh!K belongs to Turner Broadcasting System Asia Pacific (same as Cartoon Network, CNN,...). Both are two separate companies, it is very very unlikely till the point it is impossible they will cross promote at this manner. And if you see Astro's channel number on a corner of the screen during that ad, and later it tells you to subscribe this particular pack by going to Channel 200, then obviously it is slotted in by Astro. Because only Astro has the Self Service Portal at Channel 200, while other pay TVs don't have that. Did you thought of that?

3. What makes Malaysian's censorship law so special? Are we being close minded and sensitive, or it is just a certain group of people? Is delaying the feed are for the sake of censorship (is it true, or just an excuse?), or the main purpose is to benefit Astro to make them easier to slot in and replace ads that they want their viewers to watch?
Are you very sure that the original feed shows too much "nudity" as well as other serious of aged 18+ elements for the programme that is so not suitable for Malaysian audience until we need Astro to censor it, as if other countries pay TV that carries that channel, don't have their own censorship laws? Are you willing to pay money for that censored content? What makes Malaysian censorship laws so special then (applies during BN era, not very applicable for the gov now)?
Is it still relevant and justifiable in today's era, where people use more Internet than TV?
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I think I've complained once to their email for too many ads. They said ads is there to keep the price "low". Haha didnt know how true is that la.

Also I dont think you can do anything about the censorship law. in sg also they censor kaw kaw.. lagi la

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post Feb 18 2019, 09:04 PM

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Nat Geo Wild HD (CH 570) and Asian Food Channel HD (CH 730) will be launched on Astro starting from 1st March 2019, 12:01 AM. smile.gif
Source: Astro Facebook Page (Community's comment)

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post Feb 18 2019, 11:01 PM

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Hi. Astro continuously reviews its content proposition to offer the best choices and a variety of compelling content for our customers for the best viewing experience in HD. In line with this, our customers on the Family HD Pack will receive two new HD channels at no additional cost: Nat Geo Wild HD (CH 570) and Asian Food Channel HD (CH 730) effective 1 March 2019 at 12:01am. To this end also, Disney XD (CH 617) will cease transmission starting 28 February 2019 at 11.59pm for Astro and also NJOI. Customers on the Family HD Pack can continue to enjoy Disney XD HD (CH 637). Customers can upgrade to HD services via CH 200, online self-service (www.login.astro.com.my) or email (wecare@astro.com.my). We apologise for any inconvenience caused
Source: https://www.facebook.com/Astro/posts/10156847732194627

28 Feb: Disney XD channel to be made available only in HD. SD version (CH 617) will be ceased for Astro and Njoi customers.
1 Mar: Nat Geo Wild and Asian Food Channel will be in simulcast SD and HD, which is CH 550/570 (HD) and CH703/730 (HD) respectively.

I hope Astro to "upgrade" more existing SD channels to be available in HD quality. It will be better if they just upgrade many channels at once lah.
Anyway, it's great to know that Nat Geo Wild soon will be available in HD on Astro.
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QUOTE(joshhd @ Feb 18 2019, 11:01 PM)
Source: https://www.facebook.com/Astro/posts/10156847732194627

28 Feb: Disney XD channel to be made available only in HD. SD version (CH 617) will be ceased for Astro and Njoi customers.
1 Mar: Nat Geo Wild and Asian Food Channel will be in simulcast SD and HD, which is CH 550/570 (HD) and CH703/730 (HD) respectively.

I hope Astro to "upgrade" more existing SD channels to be available in HD quality. It will be better if they just upgrade many channels at once lah.
Anyway, it's great to know that Nat Geo Wild soon will be available in HD on Astro.
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713 & 715 still waiting... whistling.gif
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post Feb 19 2019, 12:04 AM

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QUOTE(Qash-M @ Feb 18 2019, 11:26 PM)
713 & 715 still waiting... whistling.gif
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According to Quake, Nat Geo Wild and Asian Food Channel are one of the channels with quite high viewership among the English channels on Astro.
So it does make sense for them that they would upgrade to HD
As you can see the "Monthly Net Reach":
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They would go for the ones that benefit more viewers; upgrade channels to HD that has high viewership.
If you're interested about these viewership stuff, visit http://quake.com.my/

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QUOTE(joshhd @ Feb 19 2019, 12:04 AM)
According to Quake, Nat Geo Wild and Asian Food Channel are one of the channels with quite high viewership among the English channels on Astro.
So it does make sense for them that they would upgrade to HD
As you can see the "Monthly Net Reach":
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They would go for the ones that benefit more viewers; upgrade channels to HD that has high viewership.
If you're interested about these viewership stuff, visit http://quake.com.my/
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Local TV also have high viewership, still no HD though. laugh.gif
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post Feb 19 2019, 12:17 AM

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QUOTE(Qash-M @ Feb 19 2019, 12:12 AM)
Local TV also have high viewership, still no HD though. laugh.gif
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Like I said before, it's up to the TV company whether they would pay extra money to Astro, or even MYTV to transmit their channel in HD.
For Media Prima, you can watch all their channels in HD quality on Tonton for free, no logins required. Although TV3 is the only HD channel available in DTT now.
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Ohh, no wonder Astro cease the SD version of Disney XD....
Because of high viewership, if Astro ceases SD version of the channel, making only the HD version available, this will "force" existing viewers (particularly, kids) to subscribe to Family HD pack / HD service.

Also according to Quake (http://quake.com.my), out of all kids channels (also known as GenNext segment) on Astro, Disney XD is the 2nd highest viewership kids channel on Astro.
Astro Ceria got the 1st place (7.69 mil Monthly Net Reach of average past 12 months).

I have to say: Astro, is really smart rclxms.gif

But wait, how many % difference of existing Disney XD viewers are watching the SD or HD version of the channel?
It could be because they find that majority of Disney XD viewers are already watching the HD version, so it seems make sense for them to cease the SD version and convince the minority of the viewers to watch it only in HD instead, or upgrade to HD, so that they can earn some profit a bit from there. hmm.gif

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QUOTE(joshhd @ Feb 19 2019, 12:24 AM)
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Ohh, no wonder Astro cease the SD version of Disney XD....
Because of high viewership, if Astro ceases SD version of the channel, making only the HD version available, this will "force" existing viewers (particularly, kids) to subscribe to Family HD pack / HD service.

Also according to Quake (http://quake.com.my), out of all kids channels (also known as GenNext segment) on Astro, Disney XD is the 2nd highest viewership kids channel on Astro.
Astro Ceria got the 1st place (7.69 mil Monthly Net Reach of average past 12 months).

I have to say: Astro, is really smart  rclxms.gif

But wait, how many % difference of existing Disney XD viewers are watching the SD or HD version of the channel?
It could be because they find that majority of Disney XD viewers are already watching the HD version, so it seems make sense for them to cease the SD version and convince the minority of the viewers to watch it only in HD instead, or upgrade to HD, so that they can earn some profit a bit from there.  hmm.gif
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there goes 21% below 2k earning has to be forced to get HD.
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QUOTE(Qash-M @ Feb 19 2019, 12:32 AM)
there goes 21% below 2k earning has to be forced to get HD.
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😂😂😂😂😂😂 Nice one
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Interesting info...
Didn't know the Disney channel gave high viewship...
I thought all kids watch online nowadays 😈
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Feb 19 2019, 09:27 AM)
Interesting info...
Didn't know the Disney channel gave high viewship...
I thought all kids watch online nowadays 😈
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In my opinion, Disney XD got 2nd high viewership is because that channel is part of Family pack. Meaning, customers need not to pay more money (subscribe to Kids pack) to watch cartoons and kids programmes, as some parents may find that one cartoon channel like Disney XD is good enough.

Viewership for Disney Channel ch615 is not as high as Disney XD. They got around 2 mil plus average monthly net audience reach.

Seems like, a free channel (except Njoi) that shows great content can easily get high viewership.
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QUOTE(joshhd @ Feb 19 2019, 11:26 AM)
In my opinion, Disney XD got 2nd high viewership is because that channel is part of Family pack. Meaning, customers need not to pay more money (subscribe to Kids pack) to watch cartoons and kids programmes, as some parents may find that one cartoon channel like Disney XD is good enough.

Viewership for Disney Channel ch615 is not as high as Disney XD. They got around 2 mil plus average monthly net audience reach.

Seems like, a free channel (except Njoi) that shows great content can easily get high viewership.
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Seriously speaking the so called "free" channels actually we indirectly paying for it... Just that astro smart enough to make it like its free 😈😈 and they playing the game well...

Only selected high viewship channels slowly being upgraded to HD... While those low one get axed 😑
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Feb 19 2019, 11:48 AM)
Seriously speaking the so called "free" channels actually we indirectly paying for it... Just that astro smart enough to make it like its free 😈😈 and they playing the game well...

Only selected high viewship channels slowly being upgraded to HD... While those low one get axed 😑
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Very true. That's how Astro do business. Free channel = Indirectly paid from the basic plan; Family pack.
High viewership, find ways to get more money from it.
Low viewership, bye bye. I don't want to see you here.

The concept is like, rich people will get richer, poor people will get poorer or nothing.
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Feb 19 2019, 09:27 AM)
Interesting info...
Didn't know the Disney channel gave high viewship...
I thought all kids watch online nowadays 😈
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There are still lot of ppl who suffering with poor internet connections with no fiber coverage.

Not all the people can enjoy online nowadays. Some parents are not so rich to buy ipad or tablet for let kids watch online.
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QUOTE(joshhd @ Feb 19 2019, 12:55 PM)
Very true. That's how Astro do business. Free channel = Indirectly paid from the basic plan; Family pack.
High viewership, find ways to get more money from it.
Low viewership, bye bye. I don't want to see you here.

The concept is like, rich people will get richer, poor people will get poorer or nothing.
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That is not so called "free". If free, then totally is RM0.
That one is called Basic family pack with "cost".
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QUOTE(joshhd @ Feb 19 2019, 12:55 PM)
Very true. That's how Astro do business. Free channel = Indirectly paid from the basic plan; Family pack.
High viewership, find ways to get more money from it.
Low viewership, bye bye. I don't want to see you here.

The concept is like, rich people will get richer, poor people will get poorer or nothing.
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I know the feel...
That's why the gap getting bigger y-o-y

Anyhow only choice is Njoi if want "free"... MYTV offering not so interesting for now...

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