Only 25%??
I doubt about the figure..
Should be higher near 40%++
higher percentage in urban vs rural because lack of high speed internet.

Owh are they phasing out their pay TV business?

No its astro cost of operation and content they importing too expensive. that's why gobind previously so garang asking astro to reduce price or want to bring more competition now is very quiet about it. I guess he finally understood how the business works and that nobody wants to enter pay tv market. its too expensive to maintain

Its still there..
Just no more giving out box for new subscribers 😎

No wonder Gobind might abandon this project for slash down pricing of pay tv market. Left astro do what they want their decisions either increase price like hell or reduce price like harga durian jatuh..

Anyway the world reality. If the pay tv market hard to survive, we expect astro might diversification market to Fiber service.

This post has been edited by JuneResources: Feb 14 2019, 03:33 PM

1, that channel was Showcase, similar to Astro Prima, Ria and Warna, it broadcasts shows that was broadcast on our national TV channel, Trans TV. The reason Transvision axed it because of low viewership. We have lost similar in-house channels like Jelita (a female-focused channel), Tahan Tawa (a local comedy channel, like Astro Warna), MALE (male-focused) and Arena (a sport channel that used to broadcast the Bundesliga there) because there's little to no interest on watching those channels. What we have left is Khazanah (Islamic channel, like Astro Oasis), Insert (infotainment ch., also has a sister channel, Insertlive), Dunia Lain (horror-centric, much like Boo or Thrill), Bioskop Indonesia (a so-called Indonesia movie channel, but mostly airs homegrown FTV from there), Dunia Anak (kids channel), T-Music (it's what it is, a music channel), Eat&Go (food and travel channel) and 2 news channels, CNN Indoneisa and CNBC Indoneisa.

2, Thanks for the info, I will follow there, too.

Partly agreed,but why only msia has problem? Most asian countries have more then one player,look at us since 1995 only one player Something wrong somewhere!! Weak goverment and cronyism,even Digital Mytv cannot take off!NJOI was allowed to overtake mytv!

Malaysia and Singapore have this problem as i am aware within Asean. gobind said there are 11 player with licensed. but not even one among the 10 took off..

not enough population?
many going toward illegal way

Infact singapore has two players singtel and starhub and another M1 providing something different! Here we must blame it on corruption and exclusivity which killed new players on the spot. Asstro entered schools took over tv pendidikan and also stripped Tv 1 and Tv2,there was a time asstro was the sole sports provider! Assstro gave free decorders in sabah and sarawak,BN used them,you help me I help you was the situation! Now everyone is so cautious and uncertain simply cos the new govt, is also too shaky with incompetent ministers

It seems like it. It is pretty expected that TM will shutdown their IPTV service one day.
So now, it also means that, the number of Unifi TV (IPTV) users will only be decreasing since STB are no longer being issued to new customers.
Most likely this will happen, where once a number of active Unifi TV users is reached to a new low, they'll publicly announce "Unifi TV is shutting down its service", and then the public response will be like "Cheh, I don't even watch Unifi TV also. The STB is still in my store room until today" or even say "What is Unifi TV? Never hear before..."

But still, it doesn't explain the fact that Astro kept on having exclusive rights on anticipated sports events, like football matches.
And then, charge customers expensively, because of having exclusive broadcast content rights.

Yes, pay TV is an expensive business to maintain. Are they even considering to reduce the package pricing?
If that can't be done easily, how about limiting Astro to slot in ads as they wish? They delay the channels 3, 5, or even 10 minutes from original feed, for the sake of slotting in ads, removing ads that are irrelevant to Malaysian viewers like the brands that are not available in Malaysia, and also censorship (which I see this as an excuse and wasting people's money) Duh, as if other country don't have TV censorship and Malaysian people and so close minded

If they don't want to add new channels, how about offering existing SD channels to be available in HD? Okay, Astro Prima and Oasis done it.
I know there are a lot of premium channels out there are actually originally available in HD, but Astro transmit the channel to customer only in SD quality.
How about the rest? Clearly they are taking their sweet time. Definitely not because of "not enough bandwidth". The Measat satellites that Astro uses, has a lot more bandwidth than you can imagine.

Some of the channels you mentioned, I heard it before... Like Jelita, Insert, Dunia Lain, Bioskop Indonesia,...
But I didn't know all of these already been ceased...
Thanks for sharing

Ah I see.. so they actually have a choice to get non exclusive right for football? its not that EPL keep on selling only exclusive right is it?

Well, you're right. It applies to all kind of international acquired contents like the channels and the sporting events. For example, HBO is not exclusive to one TV provider in Indonesia because it has been currently carried by 8 TV providers. For your info, the same exclusive right for HBO has been broken in Singapore because Singtel TV has launched all 6 HBO family channels on their platform on 1st Feb 2019.

It's the beyond time TM will tell us about IPTV.
But I feel like a bit wasted IPTV if they are going to ceased..

In fact, TM should implement 2 type of packages.. One is include IPTV service while another one is include digital service (something like netflix or iflix) If you want higher speed, then you must take IPTV service.. OR if you want to take lower speed, then you must take digital services.

Of course if you don't want both IPTV or digital service, then go for others fiber service provider.

Back to astro, it should be shutdown for dish and go for IPTV service.. Who gonna to use outdoor dish?? It's outdated technology.. Compare from Singapore, I did not see any outdoor dish outside (Except the normal TV antenna).

However you cannot compare those Indonesia by using dish, this is because they are using C-band dish which can able to receive signal during raining. If using Ku-band dish, then the packages channels must go for cheaper a bit..

TM idiot one. Their box doesnt even allow to download apps like netflix or iflix. they removed playstore somemore

Wasted, or not wasted, as long if it is money losing and doesn't bring profit, then why continue on that business?
Business are like that one. No profit but only keep on rugi, then better just stop it (by phasing out its IPTV service in phases).
Even with higher package, TM knows that majority of its customers still won't watch Unifi TV one... That doesn't attract them also, cuz all customer want, is lower monthly fee, not pay even more for the sake of getting IPTV pay TV service. So now, they would focus on Unifi playTV (the OTT version of Unifi TV, just like Astro Go) cuz it depends on user's device to watch it, instead of TM offering set-top-boxes to customers. Simply put, TM can save cost by doing this.

Satellite TV won't become an outdated technology, trust me. No matter how good or how fast is fibre internet, you still can't deny that satellite are still helpful in certain situations. If you know how satellite technology works, you won't think that way anymore. The only thing is whether satellite TV relevant to consumer or not, instead of outdated or not and nobody use it. Satellite TV has the same concept as satellite internet. You can read more here: https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=91718536

Singapore is small. They can lay fibre cables islandwide without major issues (as long have money), so generally satellite TV are not necessary for Singapore. You don't see satellite dishes in Singapore because the government ban from their people from using it, except for certain special purposes like the news media or TV station.
But Malaysia is different. Malaysia is big, rough terrains, has places that fibre or even copper cables for broadband are not available, or even mobile cellular 3G/4G are not available, you still think of Astro "shutdown" satellite TV? No way! If Astro IPTV coverage (powered by Maxis or TIME Fibre, or TNB's City Broadband) is available in your area, do go ahead and subscribe.

Indonesia uses both C band and Ku band. They can use C band because their government legally allowed it. They do have C band satellite pay TV service, such as Topas TV and K-Vision (Bromo), but the channels are less and limited, and not as worth of money compared to their Ku band satellite pay TV providers, such as Big TV and Transvision. It is all about technical stuff, which makes it limited.
While Malaysia ban C band because our then government (BN) want to protect Astro; force (or "convince" in a nicer words) the people to subscribe Astro and pay money to them. In simple words, crony lah. Monopoly and exclusive licenses somemore. Because with C band, you can receive many foreign TV channels that the then government can't control what they want Malaysians to see, including uncensored news, hence the gov want to control what we can watch. If everyone go watch foreign TV channels on C band, then nobody want to subscribe Astro, then rugi lor... It will affect local media industry too. But in reality, if your local content aren't attractive to local viewers or can't compete with international content standards, then you will be eliminated easily. That is the real world. So, how to use ban to make a business successful? Ask Astro.
But that proven to be ineffective now, when the Internet becomes widely used. Now change new government already. Nobody cares much about satellite TV anymore, because "TV box all the way~", if you know what I mean.

Yes. Starhub TV holds exclusive license with them for many years already, that's why Singtel TV customers can't get to enjoy HBO content, not until February 2019. Btw, I believe you read that Starhub TV ceases all channels from Discovery Networks last year, right? Those Discovery Channel, Discovery Asia, Discovery Science, Food Network,... all those already no more on Starhub TV, as they did not renew their agreement with Discovery Networks. http://www.starhub.com/business/support/tv...overy-faqs.html

Not just Singapore actually. Even Thailand's satellite pay TV, Truevision also ceases many Discovery Networks channels around 2017/2018. I wonder, is it because Discovery Networks has been demanding for more money from pay TV, or pay TV just can't no longer afford it due to their own financial issues?
Since this trend has happened, I wonder will this trend comes to Astro someday...?

The thing is, how Astro treat customers is like:
We pay money for your service, yet we get to see advertisements that is slotted in by Astro themselves (not from the original channel provider).
Pay TV service, but we get your service as if we pay very very dirt cheap subscription fees to you, and you use advertisements to increase revenue.

Example 1: You see the Ajax Fabuloso household cleaner advertisement on AXN channel on Astro.
Actually, AXN channel themselves don't air that ad. It is Astro slots in that ad during commercial breaks.

Example 2: Astro Best movies ad being aired on channels that are not owned by Astro, such as AXN, DIVA, National Geographic, etc. Actually, those channels mentioned, they themselves don't air those Astro Best ads. It is Astro slots in that ad during commercial breaks.

To make their TV advertisement team easier to do work, they purposely delay the original feed by 3, 5 or 10 minutes. That is why you see the programme start time, like this: 8.03pm, 10.35pm (supposed to start at 10.30pm, 8.40pm (supposed to start at 8.30pm).
Some programme starts at 7.55pm originally, so once adds on 5 minute delay from Astro, it becomes 8.00pm.
Meanwhile for international news channel, it is delayed by 2 minutes, like the news supposed to go Live on 6.00pm sharp, but on Astro, you see it's 6.02pm.

How to identify if the ad are slotted in by Astro, or not? Quite easy, but not necessarily apply to all channels.
Like for AXN, if you see that ad shows AXN logo, that mean it is originally broadcasts from AXN. The best example is usually Colgate ads.
If you don't see AXN logo on that particular ad, then it is very very likely that the ad is slotted in by Astro. It is commonly those Malaysian brands stuff.
Especially if that ad is in Malay language, in an English channel, then confirm is Astro slot in one lor...