^ When watching The Avengers, I felt like it was Iron Man 3, Thor 2, and Cap America 2 at the same time
But I remember before the film was released, they said The Avengers was going to be more about Cap America and how he's fitting in with present time. But I guess they cut out a lot of Cap America scenes. One of them is a scene where he meet with his old love from CA movie (already forgot her name ) who was about to passed away.
and I heard The Avengers was supposed to be 3 hours long...I hope they'll re release this movie like LOTR/Avatar and include those extra scenes
^ When watching The Avengers, I felt like it was Iron Man 3, Thor 2, and Cap America 2 at the same time
But I remember before the film was released, they said The Avengers was going to be more about Cap America and how he's fitting in with present time. But I guess they cut out a lot of Cap America scenes. One of them is a scene where he meet with his old love from CA movie (already forgot her name ) who was about to passed away.
and I heard The Avengers was supposed to be 3 hours long...I hope they'll re release this movie like LOTR/Avatar and include those extra scenes
Your wish will come true.. There will be 30 minutes of extra scene in BluRay/DVD
^ When watching The Avengers, I felt like it was Iron Man 3, Thor 2, and Cap America 2 at the same time
But I remember before the film was released, they said The Avengers was going to be more about Cap America and how he's fitting in with present time. But I guess they cut out a lot of Cap America scenes. One of them is a scene where he meet with his old love from CA movie (already forgot her name ) who was about to passed away.
and I heard The Avengers was supposed to be 3 hours long...I hope they'll re release this movie like LOTR/Avatar and include those extra scenes
Ya, articles from websites such as The Collider did mention about The Avengers might be from Captain America's point of view, in order to avoid development clashes of many characters. Luckily they didn't ... while Captain America is the 1st Avenger, the movie is more about team-work; and glad they divided the time equally among the assembled ensemble heroes.
From Joss Whedon's interviews, he said those extra 30-mins+ mostly about Steve Rogers scenes will be included in Blu-Ray/DVD, but only as deleted/extra scenes, not as an extended version. The theatrical version that we saw is the final edit/version that the director wanted to make.... (but sometimes, they do change their minds with more advanced film tech availability in the future e.g. Ridley Scott's Blade Runner, George Lucas' the original Star Wars trilogy)
This post has been edited by r2t2: May 12 2012, 12:55 PM
The second viewing confirmed my initial opinion- that the dialogue, much heralded by everyone, is pretty goddamn bad half the time. Loki's insufferable ramblings on humanity and the notion of freedom grow very tired the second time, half of the dialogue among the Avengers during the character building first/second act (a period that lasts WAY too long) leads nowhere, and again about half of the one-liners are corny rubbish (Black Widow's "Oh, you", most of Fury's lines, etc). Other half of the one-liners are gold though. Samuel L. Jackson is awful at delivering lines nowadays, anyone else thinks so? He's easily the worst in the cast.
The last half hour (or more?) of action redeems it though. Now that was very fun. Mostly coherently shot and always brilliantly edited, it's been a long time since I've seen effective action sequences in a big dumb blockbuster. Hulk is so much fun. Which begs another question: what is everyone's beef with the action scenes in Ang Lee's Hulk? I just don't get that, probably never will. One of the great mysteries of the universe.
In the end, it's the movie of the week, but it has neither the flavour in its direction or any standout moments to make a lasting impact, at least for me.
P/S: One of the movie's less good lines I can remember is when Cap America is facing Loki in Germany, and says this "You know, the last time I was in Germany and saw a man standing above everybody else, we ended up disagreeing."
The line was set up for a punch line, something like "You know, the last time I was in Germany and saw a man standing above everybody else, I kicked his ass". But no, we get an extremely tame and tepid "we ended up disagreeing". Seriously?
This post has been edited by QuickFire: May 12 2012, 11:03 PM
Why the US Military Refused to Cooperate With ‘ The Avengers ’
Posted on May 8, 2012 at 8:49pm by Mytheos Holt
It might not be common knowledge, but apparently the United States Military likes to lend a hand to the making of Hollywood blockbusters. This has led to such memorable sequences as Iron Man fighting F-22 Raptors in “ Iron Man 2, ” a sequence which apparently involved the genuine article.
But when it came to “ The Avengers, ” apparently, the United States Military balked because they didn’t find the film “ realistic. ”
“ Unrealistic ? ” you might be asking. “ No! Was it the Norse Gods, the alien races, the men in weapons grade flying metal suits, or the fact that a Russian national world class spy was let anywhere near top secret military operations, that gave it away ? ”
Actually, it’s none of the above. Rather, the problem that gave the military headaches was the existence of the international military organization S.H.I.E.L.D. – an organization that apparently, unlike other multinational governing bodies like the UN, has the authority to supercede United States sovereignty and utilize our military forces, including our aircraft, our soldiers, and even our flying aircraft carriers !
Wired has a good article explaining the military’s hesitance over this idea :
Normally, the military loves to help Hollywood make mega-blockbusters. Iron Man got into a dogfight with F-22 Raptors in his first eponymous movie. The Navy provided the producers of the recent Act of Valor with unprecedented access to SEAL training missions and even let its secretive elite warriors act on camera. And the secretary of the Navy, Ray Mabus, even has a cameo in the forthcoming Battleship. ( “ I had a great time, although the director would probably recommend that I keep my day job, ” Mabus told Politico. )
But the ambiguity around what exactly S.H.I.E.L.D. is provides a vexing complication. If it’s an American governmental agency, what kind of constitutional authority does it exercise over the military? If it’s an international body, as the movie text suggests and Strub determined, are U.S. military personnel and equipment on loan to it through some kind of United Nations Security Council resolution? The questions may seem picayune, but they’re precisely the stuff that can cause an image-conscious military to yank its cooperation from a movie.
The comics have fudged the issue for decades. Marvel now describes it as an “ extra-government ” body, although many takes on the organization have clearly emphasized its international character. Yet U.S. presidents have fired S.H.I.E.L.D. directors (Fury, Tony Stark/Iron Man) and appointed others (Norman Osborn/The Green Goblin, incumbent Steve Rogers/Captain America) — although that might operate by an informal international understanding, much like the U.S. appoints the director of the World Bank.
Either way, the ambiguity prevented the Avengers from assembling beside the U.S. military. “ It just got to the point where it didn’t make any sense, ” Strub laments. And now comic nerds have another data point to bring up during continuity debates about what exactly S.H.I.E.L.D. is.
To be fair – it may be for the best that the organization has been left deliberately ambiguous. If S.H.I.E.L.D. were depicted as a multinational organization that could commandeer American military forces, that might give a few latter-day Wilsonians more than a few bad ideas.
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QUOTE(QuickFire @ May 12 2012, 10:58 PM)
The line was set up for a punch line, something like "You know, the last time I was in Germany and saw a man standing above everybody else, I kicked his ass". But no, we get an extremely tame and tepid "we ended up disagreeing". Seriously?
Seriously ..... Loki kicked Cap's Ass .. If he announced that he kicked Red Skull's ass (which he did not) and a few seconds later got his ass handed to him, Cap has no face....
Those who watch this movie in 2d at any TGV cinemas, got english/malay subs or not. Planning on second watch but afraid got no subs. I'm not really good catching on this foreign language.
At this rate, if it still continues to be ever so popular, expect it to reach $1.5 billion and on it's way to become one of the highest grossing film of all time (beating $2.5 billion is a very tall order). I think it will end around $1.4-1.5 billion but I might be wrong.
This post has been edited by defaultname365: May 14 2012, 10:41 AM