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TreyLey
post Apr 6 2018, 04:40 PM

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QUOTE(sakuraboo @ Apr 6 2018, 01:46 PM)
Why Canada though.

Hope this ain't one of those grass is greener issues
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I believe it's because aus is literally a collosal island and got nowhere else to go except neighboring cities, not to mention the distance apart between cities.

If canada, a person can still go to neighboring US for vacation or even Mexico and other south american countries.and if anything didnt end well and went south u still can start again in other countless big cities in north america. Besides the opportunity is vast in north america where everything is made and begin from technology to culture.
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post Apr 6 2018, 04:50 PM

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TS can try asking in this thread instead:

https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3776619
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post Apr 6 2018, 05:45 PM

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QUOTE(TreyLey @ Apr 6 2018, 04:40 PM)
I believe it's because aus is literally a collosal island and got nowhere else to go except neighboring cities, not to mention the distance apart between cities.

If canada, a person can still go to neighboring US for vacation or even Mexico and other south american countries.and if anything didnt end well and went south u still can start again in other countless big cities in north america.  Besides the opportunity is vast in north america where everything is made and begin from technology to culture.
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Yeah for the most part it's basically Mad Max
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post Apr 6 2018, 05:58 PM

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QUOTE(wongsinyee @ Apr 6 2018, 05:50 PM)
TS can try asking in this thread instead:

https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3776619
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post Apr 7 2018, 02:19 AM

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QUOTE(kypronite @ Apr 6 2018, 02:24 PM)
seriously,what's wrong with australia?  hmm.gif
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Could be very bored place
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post Apr 7 2018, 05:06 AM

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It’s okay I guess. Nothing to write home about. Been here 10 years. Mostly worked in oil and gas with some mining experience.

If you’re a high tech employee you’ll have to realise quickly that Australia isn’t a high tech nation with cutting edge IT or software development. For an anglophone country it’s well behind the curve and if you want any meaningful prospects, Sydney and maybe Melbourne are the only reasonable choices.

Also for the love of god and all that is holy, don’t choose Perth unless you have a job ready for you.
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post Apr 7 2018, 08:37 PM

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QUOTE(empire23 @ Apr 7 2018, 05:06 AM)
It’s okay I guess. Nothing to write home about. Been here 10 years. Mostly worked in oil and gas with some mining experience.

If you’re a high tech employee you’ll have to realise quickly that Australia isn’t a high tech nation with cutting edge IT or software development. For an anglophone country it’s well behind the curve and if you want any meaningful prospects, Sydney and maybe Melbourne are the only reasonable choices.

Also for the love of god and all that is holy, don’t choose Perth unless you have a job ready for you.
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How is oil n gas industry there? Easy to get job or not?
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post Apr 8 2018, 10:48 AM

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QUOTE(empire23 @ Apr 7 2018, 05:06 AM)
It’s okay I guess. Nothing to write home about. Been here 10 years. Mostly worked in oil and gas with some mining experience.

If you’re a high tech employee you’ll have to realise quickly that Australia isn’t a high tech nation with cutting edge IT or software development. For an anglophone country it’s well behind the curve and if you want any meaningful prospects, Sydney and maybe Melbourne are the only reasonable choices.

Also for the love of god and all that is holy, don’t choose Perth unless you have a job ready for you.
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How's the housing market there?
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post Apr 8 2018, 11:08 PM

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Just a visitor to WA, not someone who migrated to Australia:

Those nice dreamy houses with a nice yard and pool - easily 250k/500k+ AUD. Saw their tv ads for real estate.

Also, job wise hearsay, hard even for locals to place into higher positions/secure job, a year or two delay. That's the first thing I heard in a bus smile.gif

Nice country to visit awhile but to migrate, think again.
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post Apr 8 2018, 11:14 PM

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QUOTE(rilekrilek @ Apr 8 2018, 11:13 PM)
no money eveywhere also boring
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Haha just find your own hobby lor.
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post Apr 9 2018, 12:03 AM

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QUOTE(TreyLey @ Apr 6 2018, 04:32 PM)
How is that possible, Taiwanese speaks english worst than KL pipu
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post Apr 9 2018, 01:03 AM

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QUOTE(TreyLey @ Apr 6 2018, 04:32 PM)
How is that possible, Taiwanese speaks english worst than KL pipu
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as long as you're pretty, just open your leg, no conversations involved hence no need to have comprehensible english

QUOTE(Benefon @ Apr 8 2018, 11:14 PM)
Haha just find your own hobby lor.
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and this is why im in the gym now at 2.30am, only 24hours gym and mcdonald is operating. i can forsee i will be bored of this place in 5 years. assume i will go on a road trip and finish exploring one state/ territory a year.
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post Apr 9 2018, 01:21 AM

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QUOTE(Subang Nuclear Reactor @ Apr 9 2018, 01:03 AM)
as long as you're pretty, just open your leg, no conversations involved hence no need to have comprehensible english
and this is why im in the gym now at 2.30am, only 24hours gym and mcdonald is operating. i can forsee i will be bored of this place in 5 years. assume i will go on a road trip and finish exploring one state/ territory a year.
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The car is cheaper there , can change new car easily.
I like the Toyota gt86 should be the best choice smile.gif
Anyway after weekend can drive along the road to outskirts , thats was have fun too.

This post has been edited by Benefon: Apr 9 2018, 01:22 AM
Subang Nuclear Reactor
post Apr 9 2018, 01:41 AM

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QUOTE(Benefon @ Apr 9 2018, 01:21 AM)
The car is cheaper there , can change new car easily.
I like the Toyota gt86 should be the best choice smile.gif
Anyway after weekend can drive along the road to outskirts , thats was have fun too.
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Cars aren't exactly cheap, compared to US, and not much cheaper compared to Malaysia, we do also have luxury car taxes here, expensive rego and insurance, fuel etc etc.

yeah, it's a bigger country than Malaysia, even though a huge part of it is flat and dry land, there's still some really nice tropical forests in QLD and some nice landscape in Tas and Vic

After some time spent here i realised it's not what i thought it would be biggrin.gif

im trying to rake in as much money as possible now to go for various trips oversea

actually looking at visiting africa and climb kilimanjaro

This post has been edited by Subang Nuclear Reactor: Apr 9 2018, 01:43 AM
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QUOTE(Subang Nuclear Reactor @ Apr 9 2018, 01:41 AM)
Cars aren't exactly cheap, compared to US, and not much cheaper compared to Malaysia, we do also have luxury car taxes here, expensive rego and insurance, fuel etc etc.

yeah, it's a bigger country than Malaysia, even though a huge part of it is flat and dry land, there's still some really nice tropical forests in QLD and some nice landscape in Tas and Vic

After some time spent here i realised it's not what i thought it would be  biggrin.gif

im trying to rake in as much money as possible now to go for various trips oversea

actually looking at visiting africa and climb kilimanjaro
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If you consider car only, life is definitely going to be better... but if you consider property as well, then things might be difference. Lot of people rent room or share house only.

Assuming Msia freshie get 36k PA and Aussie freshie also get 36k PA after tax (usually more)...
86 cost over RM200k or $42K (top spec instead of peasant spec)
Proton Rm40k vs $20k (rough estimate- dun flame cause no idea)
When you mention insurance, tax, fuel, rego, maintenance of car, they almost average back quite similar. Cheaper premium petrol, higher insuance, cheaper maintenance & tires, higher parking rates in city, free parking in shopping center, etc...

Rental could be RM1k vs $2k
property in major city RM500k (3br condo) vs 800k (2br unit)
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QUOTE(Virlution @ Apr 9 2018, 12:31 PM)
If you consider car only, life is definitely going to be better... but if you consider property as well, then things might be difference. Lot of people rent room or share house only.

Assuming Msia freshie get 36k PA and Aussie freshie also get 36k PA after tax (usually more)...
86 cost over RM200k or $42K (top spec instead of peasant spec)
Proton Rm40k vs $20k (rough estimate- dun flame cause no idea)
When you mention insurance, tax, fuel, rego, maintenance of car, they almost average back quite similar. Cheaper premium petrol, higher insuance, cheaper maintenance & tires, higher parking rates in city, free parking in shopping center, etc...

Rental could be RM1k vs $2k
property in major city RM500k (3br condo) vs 800k (2br unit)
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how much is the average rental there for a couple stay?
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QUOTE(ngaisteve1 @ Apr 9 2018, 11:58 AM)
how much is the average rental there for a couple stay?
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$400-500 would be a good average depending to the city you stay.

Depend where you stay, for $500 per week you can get a old 1 bedroom unit in city or 2 bedroom unit in a further out surburb or 1 bedroom in a lux condo type of unit with pool, near to facilities and transport, etc or a house somewhere far out from city. Post code also play a part, as some area are very relatively safe and some are high crime.
For $300-400 a week you can probably do share room, you and your partner get a bedroom or master bedroom with ensuite and share with other people in a house, etc...
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post Apr 9 2018, 01:52 PM

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QUOTE(Virlution @ Apr 9 2018, 11:31 AM)
If you consider car only, life is definitely going to be better... but if you consider property as well, then things might be difference. Lot of people rent room or share house only.

Assuming Msia freshie get 36k PA and Aussie freshie also get 36k PA after tax (usually more)...
86 cost over RM200k or $42K (top spec instead of peasant spec)
Proton Rm40k vs $20k (rough estimate- dun flame cause no idea)
When you mention insurance, tax, fuel, rego, maintenance of car, they almost average back quite similar. Cheaper premium petrol, higher insuance, cheaper maintenance & tires, higher parking rates in city, free parking in shopping center, etc...

Rental could be RM1k vs $2k
property in major city RM500k (3br condo) vs 800k (2br unit)
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for someone looking at migrating, it only makes sense to convert everything to RM term right now, before he start earning AUD.

I've seen people got their visa granted, flew in and blew their savings before they found a job. Except eating out, everything seems a lot cheaper in dollar terms but they forgot they're spending their reserve that's sitting in RM.

dollar to dollar terms though, I bought a 2 bed 2 bath in Melb CBD (la trobe street) for less than AUD600k, i doubt you can get a 2 bed 2 bath in KL CBD for RM600k

Another major consideration is also your salary package, my mom isnt willing to move because she could earn more in Malaysia as an auditor rather than Australia, if you compare dollar to dollar, it's significantly more... There are plenty of RM20k/month auditor in Malaysia, but a handful are getting AUD20k/month in australia

So yeah, a lot more things you need to consider before you move. Whether you wanna compare prices after conversion, or compare straight in dollars term, depends on your situation.

Tyre prices though, dont forget to include tyre disposal fee, son of a bitch when i realised i need to pay around 100 dollars more for that shit

This post has been edited by Subang Nuclear Reactor: Apr 9 2018, 01:53 PM
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QUOTE(Subang Nuclear Reactor @ Apr 9 2018, 01:52 PM)
for someone looking at migrating, it only makes sense to convert everything to RM term right now, before he start earning AUD.

I've seen people got their visa granted, flew in and blew their savings before they found a job. Except eating out, everything seems a lot cheaper in dollar terms but they forgot they're spending their reserve that's sitting in RM.

dollar to dollar terms though, I bought a 2 bed 2 bath in Melb CBD (la trobe street) for less than AUD600k, i doubt you can get a 2 bed 2 bath in KL CBD for RM600k

Another major consideration is also your salary package, my mom isnt willing to move because she could earn more in Malaysia as an auditor rather than Australia, if you compare dollar to dollar, it's significantly more... There are plenty of RM20k/month auditor in Malaysia, but a handful are getting AUD20k/month in australia

So yeah, a lot more things you need to consider before you move. Whether you wanna compare prices after conversion, or compare straight in dollars term, depends on your situation.

Tyre prices though, dont forget to include tyre disposal fee, son of a bitch when i realised i need to pay around 100 dollars more for that shit
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My points (predicted)
30 from age (a bit rush, but hopefully can reach by then);
20 English (quite sure can get, my academic IELTS 8.5/9.0 surely general training is easier)
10 Skills (work experience outside AU)
15 Qualification


75 pts. How likely to get the skilled independent visa?
I know can apply but approve is a whole other story

Edit : Maybe another 5 for "community language"
I can also move there on another visa first, gather AU work experience for points, but by then I will lose points from my age category already

This post has been edited by jfleong: Apr 9 2018, 02:32 PM
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post Apr 9 2018, 03:21 PM

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QUOTE(jfleong @ Apr 9 2018, 02:26 PM)
My points (predicted)
30 from age (a bit rush, but hopefully can reach by then);
20 English (quite sure can get, my academic IELTS 8.5/9.0 surely general training is easier)
10 Skills (work experience outside AU)
15 Qualification
75 pts. How likely to get the skilled independent visa?
I know can apply but approve is a whole other story

Edit : Maybe another 5 for "community language"
I can also move there on another visa first, gather AU work experience for points, but by then I will lose points from my age category already
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Generally if you say you can move here on another temporary visa which also allows you to work (assuming), then it is better to get here first and start working right away. Gain at least 2 or 3 years of AU experience then apply for other permanent visas on shore. This way your chances of getting the visa you wanted is higher, as you are an on-shore applicant, and you pay taxes, your chances of getting the visa is higher and faster IMHO. Heck you can even try to get your employer to sponsor you if you're lucky....

Note: I am not sure what "other visa" do you mean exactly hmm.gif , and most employers here will not hire if you do not own a visa which allows you to work.

This post has been edited by rg470: Apr 9 2018, 03:22 PM

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