Hi guys, wanna check with you all how's the car? Also how's the service from Kia? Good and budget like Honda/Toyota?

Korean cars....LEL...... service bad....second hand value none... enjoy your lemon

well..i guess u still live in a cave...
japs car no prob? and the price appreciate over time???...

I got more than 10 car. All got prob. Its ur choice to enjoy the car suit u. U cant avoid workshop. U cant get rich by high resale value car. I got 3 Kia. And my R8 also got prob. Not only Kia.

All I can say is..join the owner club in fb...
ask ppl who owned it....
rather than those mr know it all ppl in lowyat like Hades76

This post has been edited by sunami: Apr 3 2018, 11:36 AM

Don't really mind on the resale value as I mostly buy it to drive, not to sell.

What I want to know is on the service, whether it's good or shitty like Peugeot and VW? Car maintenance and repairing cost?

I agree with u. I plan to take home new Kia rio or Kia Stinger.

I am not looking into resale value. I am looking into maintenance and repair cost. Is it same or near to Japanese cars?

Any group to recommend?

If you live in Klang Valley, Renault service so far is the bestest service yet.

Sidenotes: If you make frens with the service advisor, and technician, you warranty claim will be kawtim without much question.

Sorry but I am a bit new to this, why Renault service? Kia is sharing the same service center as Renault?

Other than warranty claim, how's the service from the service center?

stinger??? drooolllll
too bad i cant afford..lol..
max only can get k5 gt...

u have an audi but still buy kia...?

Renault is under Tan Chong.
Different with Kia attitude which is under Naza.

I only suggest that if you have the budget, why not try to test a new Koleos.
A big SUV with 4WD.

Service center from Renault Glenmarie is good. Only the place need to renovate to compete with other big boys in that area.

Not really into Renault. Saw the car design and don't really like it.

Was looking into Honda HR-V, Civic and Kia Sportage.

Oh OK.

kia is cheap and reliable audi

Kia = Koreans Imitating Audi

Not into diesel haha. I know they are different segment but they all look sexy to me

Problem is I am not sure how's the service from Kia as Kia is not as popular as the Japanese cars in Malaysia

Well I guess you live in a hole. Which car have no issues ? Just need to see which has more issues than others and how much to maintain. And I didnt say Jap car have less issues.....

Did you own one? Comeon this is not Kopitiam, if you have any first hand info do share.

Duckies try to get info directly from owners for Sportage.

As far as in general, Korean model, there is no issue in spare parts, and the pricing is comparable with Japanese counterparts.

I used to own a Optima, had no issues in terms on reliability or parts. Currently I own a Sorento, its been great.

This post has been edited by VeeJay: Apr 3 2018, 01:28 PM

My brother owns a Sorento. Spare part scarce and need to wait long time for delivery. Official service center yah.

Thanks, your have a point there....Depending on the SC, ya, some SC are a pain. Most of the time, I source outside, if its not under warranty or some minor work.

I bought mine a used model, and warranty is till 2018. Thus far, the pervious owner had changed the steering rack, took about a month to get the parts, but could still continue to use the car.

I did a warranty claim on compressor; and it took a week.

Contradictory opinions here

it totally depends on which service center you go to and the personnel in charge with you

there's good ones and bad ones

How's the maintenance cost for wear tear items and also cost for spare parts? Similar to Japanese cars?

I own a kia optima k5. I didnt get the 3 years free service though😓. Service cost i guess not that expensive. Service centre is good. But for accident claim and repair go to the kia red cube service centre, the spare part delivery is much faster the normal 3s service centre.

i think its based on personal perception & how well u can maintain ur car.. if u care for ur car well, even a 20 year old Kancil can still run like day 1..

also, ask urself whether u are sensitive to brand or having any good/bad perception on certain brands.. there are people who view Korean kimchis as low keras as opposed to Japanese brands as they perceive good quality build from the Japanese, probably due to their surrounding influences

Don't really care about brand. I like how sexy Kia Sportage looks but I am not sure of their maintenance cost. I am comparing the service/repairing cost with the Japanese cars, not their popularity.

This post has been edited by Duckies: Apr 3 2018, 02:16 PM

Japanese cars are not really the best but they are affordable next to local cars and I don't really mind Korean cars. I am opening this thread cause I am not sure how's the service/maintenance or repairing cost for Korean cars.

Unlike Japanese cars which everyone is familiar to, I've an idea on how much their service/maintenance or repairing cost already. I am comparing the service/maintenance or repairing cost, not their popularity.

This post has been edited by Duckies: Apr 3 2018, 02:18 PM

Ah I see. That gives a clearer view! Thanks man!

Eh I got PM for GT line up but Petrol. Should be last year's spec right Might consider it but is there any issue with this batch?

Ya... i used to think that...

Until I wanted to sell my korean... RM4000.... similar class (and price when buying new) Japanese still can sell 25k...

Why u wanna sell ur car ya?

House no more parking space.

Unless u drive yoru car for 20 yrs, then buy any car u like.

LOL!!!

For my case should be drive until car rosak. That's why I don't really mind on the resale value.

If u really dun mine RV, then get korean no problem.

Mine was pretty free from problem. Mileage about 120k when I sold it, did a top overhaul, usual service, replaces abs, otherwise no issue at all.

Bro,u had a Korean car before? I doubt you dont.

I’ve the 2013 Sportage. The least problematic car at home. The most is my Peugeot 3008. Worth buying as used car not new due to lousy resale value.

Peugeot, Ford and VW is no no for me

Pm me for the Besi KIA price .

For more information can pm me directly


4S Center in Chan Sow Lin KL
(priority for indoor customer)

Korean brands plenty of features but performance damn slow or boring. If accelerate a Sportage at corners, the SUV might flip over if only 2WD. If 4WD, still ok. Tested before. Scary. Peugeot 3008? Car will fishtail and lose rear traction before traction control took over.

Bro, do you have the GT Petrol?

Wa 2000cc also slow meh?

4WD is heavy. High FC too. 2WD variant faster and lighter.

But not until flip at corner gua. U pecut 200kmph ke

If wanna speed then will choose Honda Civic liao.

[quote=Duckies,Apr 3 2018, 03:27 PM]
Bro, do you have the GT Petrol?


GT petrol currently not in stock . Petrol Mid spec got and the GT diesel .

2013 Sportage AWD can whack up to 160kph. That’s it. No further.

Got so noob or not? City also can whack up to there. Heck even my Myvi also can do that. You got lemon unit ke?

First, it is a heavy car. The 2000cc is underpowered. Rims at 18 inches too big. If downgrade maybe can do 200kph. There is a 2000cc turbo sold in Korea and US. This one is just perfect.

Wa like that HR-V with just 1800cc or CRV with 2000cc mampus jor?

These 2 came with smaller rims. Both using Civic engines and better gearbox. Sportage gearbox very slow at changing gears.

Hmm...I really need to test drive and see see

If u can afford it, opt for the diesel turbo model. Plenty of power to challenge Hilux and Triton.

Don't really need the Diesel power cause I am just a casual driver. Once a month drive highway balik kampung

As many has suggested, there aint much difference unlike the market perception.

I would suggest take two models of the same segment like campry vs optima; in your case sportage vs toyota/honda and ask for couple of parts price to compare...(you could use parts such as alternator, compressor, absorber, tie-rod, etc)

You can start with some part sellers here in LYN itself, or could check with spare part shop as well.

This is a must do prior to narrowing down to a specific brand, do go for a test drive and get a feel.


BTW, your earlier statement generalizing Peugeot, vw, and ford as problematic car is not fair; sinilar to many been making to hyundai/kia models. Ya specific models do have issues but not all the models la

This post has been edited by VeeJay: Apr 3 2018, 04:27 PM

I've heard too many bad cases from forumers, /k, friends and even relatives so forgive me to have such perception. They might have models that are good but I will still not go for it

As I said. Sportage has 2 variants. I owned both the Kia Sportage AWD 2013 and Peugeot 3008 2012 so I know how to push both to the limits. Been doing so for years.

Chassis wise, the 3008 is superb. Less cabin noise than Sportage. Gear shift also faster. Only issue being 2WD is the rear tends to fishtail at corners. Luckily traction control is there to correct it.

More and more of my friends are driving Korean cars.

Servicing a Kia/Hyundai at service actually cheaper than Honda.
Cerato
Oil filter rm19.10
Engine air filter rm60.90
Minor service labour rm70

Rio
Oil filter rm17.22
Engine air filter rm46.90
Minor service labour rm70

City
Oil filter rm31
engine air filter rm83.67
minor service labour rm120

Replacement part price such as bumper, lamp, side mirror also about the same if comparing same segment.

The only advantage of common Japanese car is buying part outside sc maybe can get cheaper price. But do you change bumper, side mirror, alternator every year ?

Now internet era can source part online like ebay even lazada also got sell korean part.

This post has been edited by Effy92: Apr 3 2018, 09:58 PM

While i wish to help clearing TS' doubt, on the other hand the selfish me wished that less people gets this rare gem which i own.

I've met a number of owners who are owning their 2nd or 3rd KIAs. If KIA is a "lousy" car, there will not be repeat owners.

Frankly i don't know about prices of those major replacement parts, bcoz i was nvr required to during the tenure of owning my 1st KIA which is still going strong. Why worry about spare parts when a KIA car only requires normal maintenance services in at least 5-7 years?

shhhhh!!!!

If you are most town driving, its even better with diesel. The torque is a lot higher, meaning easier to stop and go at the traffic light.

And yeah... the 2.0 liter engine is very not suitable for such a heavy SUV.

Honestly, if you are looking for the most tech-loaded SUV, the new CR-V is the best because of its Honda Sensing.
(It is a shame Naza did not bring the REAL fully loaded Sportage - it has all the tech as the Honda)

Wow, that's a good break down for the cost and maintenance fees! That's the information I am looking for!

Well, it's better to be safe than sorry. Don't wanna buy a car then ended up can't afford to repair just in case it broke down right

Initially was thinking CR-V because it's the most tech loaded SUV for now but it's ugly in my opinion

Plus I did some comparison, I think Kia Sportage is not missing much except the infotainment system is not as good as Honda but I can live with that

The diesel model of Kia Sportage is kinda out of my budget How's the petrol version performance? Easy to hit 140-160 on highway?

This post has been edited by Duckies: Apr 4 2018, 06:59 AM

Well, it's no surprise that people still have bad perceptions for Korean cars. Their SC is really bad, even the official ones from Naza. Only a few from Naza is actually reputable.

As for the car, I suggest you go for test drive then only try to find good deals online. All those in KL/Selangor can't give a good deal because they are mostly under Naza umbrella. The one not operated under Naza are the ones where you get better deals. You get additional discount and even 3 years free service. Additionally, some authorised sc are friendly and even help you install official kit that you bought from ebay like auto cruise module for Rio.

How's the SC in KL? Why do you say their SC is bad? Can you share some stories?

Was looking into this GT Petrol model from Ipoh branch.

Having own a Sportage GT Awd since 2011, I can say that the maintenance cost is almost comparable to Japs cars. The periodic servicing cost is about the same of my missus 2014 CRV Awd.
Minor servicing at SC cost me between 2 to 3 hundreds, while wear and tear/consumable parts like brake pads, wipers, etc, can be replaced or installed cheaper at outside workshop.
I believed for new models, Naza also gives 3 years free servicing, incl parts and labours, so ownership should be comparable to Japs cars.

Previously I tried walk in to their branch in kota damansara to enquire about something. The receptionist told me they only had junior technicians. Told me to go to Red Cube PJ.

Personally I really prefer the authorised sc in Kota Kemuning named JD Auto.

Thanks! That's the information I am looking for! How's the car performance and pickup?

Any bad stories on the service so far?

Actually, no... You do miss a lot from a Honda Sensing equivalent. The ones I'm interested the most is the LKA and Active Cruise. But yeah... The new CR-V is, at best, not as good looking as the old ones. The back is hideous, and what's up with the very tiny turn signal?!

My wife used to send her Rio X at Falim SC. She said its OK even though the place is quite run down and most of the technicians are new and inexperienced. I mean, I have to godek godek the HU myself to get the Mirrorlink to work, because they said there are no such thing (it's in your brochure for God's sake!). On the flip side, easy to get appointments la...

From what I gather, the best northern SC is still Georgetown branch

YES!! The back is hideous! I prefer the old CR-V design

My hometown is in Ipoh but I am in KL most of the time. So if I were to go to a SC, it would be in KL

Performance wise, the NA 2.0l engine is not the best pair for a mid-size SUV with AWD.
It will struggle for hill accent or overtaking, and the fuel consumption is very bad especially if you are stuck in traffic jam.
For 2011-2016 AWD model, many users including myself only gotten about 300-350 km range on full tank of 55l for city driving.

I'm driving a 2018 Mazda CX-5 2.2D Fwd now and on almost the same full tank, I'm getting about 650-700 km
I've considered the 2018 Sportage 2.0l Diesel but I opted for the CX-5 due to the look and driving dynamic

As for KV SC, try NSS Glenmarie or KIA Setapak.

Your AWD Petrol or Diesel model? The Mazda CX-5 was on diesel but the old Kia Sportage is on Petrol?

Also the specs I am looking at should be GT 2WD only Not sure if it'll fare better against the Petrol AWD

This post has been edited by Duckies: Apr 4 2018, 02:13 PM

Interesting...since we have owners with CX5 Diesel and Sportage Diesel as well, could both of you share your consumption mileage (km/L or L/100km) Thanks.

As for my Sorento, City driving I'm getting around 9km/L as an average; with 40km/h driving speed

For Highway, I havent really had a change to record, although had done many trips to Ipoh and Kulim, just that due to the trip circumstances, I had to stop in between for town driving within the trip....so no pure highway records, but guess should be getting around 12-13km/L

This post has been edited by VeeJay: Apr 4 2018, 02:10 PM

Ahh...diesel as well. I wonder how many km/L for petrol specs

If that's the case then should be still acceptable. Cause the previous bro was saying this


That's like 50% lesser man!

This post has been edited by Duckies: Apr 4 2018, 02:41 PM

Thats good. And ya, mine is AWD as well (gasoline). Thought of diesel, but the diesel quality out of klang valley is questionable hence discouraged about it

waiting for widget to provide his mileage


maybe the gas tank is different in size? km/L or L/100km should provide better comparison.

This post has been edited by VeeJay: Apr 4 2018, 03:58 PM

I was expecting to be around 10 to 12 km/L for city drive That's for 2WD though. Do you think it's somewhere there?

On sportage cant you deactivate the AWD?

Encountered few times before on my CX-5 2.2D FWD.
But mainly when exiting from minor junction to main road.

My fuel consumption for mix driving is 15km/L.
On highway following speed limit with RPM around 2k, getting about 18km/L
For city driving, stuck at traffic jam, about 12-13km/L.
Mind you, my engine is not seasoned yet as only clocked 4k km on the odometer.

The full tanks on my CX-5 and 2011 Kia Sportage are 55/56l
I'm not sure what are the changes made to the new 2.0NA engine on the new Sportage.
But IIRC, the Nu engine on the facelifted 2013 model is more economical

Loving what I read so far in this tered... great info guys.
I always wanted to have a SUV for my next vehicle... maybe in another 5-6 years hopefully

The new ones? It'd better be. My 2014 K3 road noise is unbelievable. Even after changing to "quieter" tyre.

This post has been edited by shondown: Apr 4 2018, 08:42 PM

,mine is 2013 Sorento...the insulation, internal build and stability is great...no complaints...my only complaint is the info panel doesnt come with multiple mileage measurement, although the odometer meter is dual.

wow city driving is really awesome....did you note what was the average speed for city driving on your CX5?

Yeah that's excellent. My 2.0D gets 10-12km/l for rush hour jam. If highway trip never tekan then can get 16-18km/l, thats very gentle driving which is difficult to maintain 😁

This fuel consumption stats is for Kia Sportage petrol or diesel? The stats looks pretty good.

This post has been edited by Duckies: Apr 5 2018, 09:26 AM

Sorry to dissapoints you.
The figures are for my CX-5 2.2D.

My 2011 KIA Sportage AWD definitely has poor FC.
As I mentioned before, few users of the 2011-2013 AWD Sportage (pre-facelift) only getting 300-350 km full tank, including me.
Can join the FB Sporatge group fro more info

This post has been edited by widget: Apr 5 2018, 09:53 AM

Yup Sportage QL with the 19inch wheels😂

Proton just announced SUV lol. Makes me wanna wait dulu and see what they have

hey...mine as well but Sorento

Basically Diesel would give better mileage compared to petrol

This post has been edited by VeeJay: Apr 5 2018, 02:37 PM

Sometimes i find the 19in wheels cause too much road noise

Some more bigger rim means more friction which equals to reduction in fuel efficiency. I think 19" wheels are too big...17" is ngam ngam cukup.

This made me wonder if I should take the GT Petrol. I knew the GT Diesel is good but out of my budget

This post has been edited by Duckies: Apr 5 2018, 03:26 PM

Duckies, the new 2018 EX is 18in wheels, think thats the good middle point for style n comfort. Anybody buying EX want to swap wheels?😀

This post has been edited by seanjiaqian: Apr 5 2018, 03:40 PM

Don't like the EX cause missing many stuffs from GT