Killer wheelspin only happen if you purposely drive reckless and on uneven terrain getting the car to lose control.

Normal law abiding drivers and when necessary to avoid obstacles or overtake dangerous sand truck, no wheelspin on FWD SUV and cars.

Unless you like to step full pedal rev the car fist before shifting to D then any FWD sure feel wheelspin. I don't see many FWD Mazda CX5 lost control.

FYI, Landrover has 4WD but known to have bad moose test handling instead. So how do you justify this?

I was supposed to reply ts on his shortlist until I read your funny statements and replies to @selinix

Already tested the CX5 kawkaw, the shortage can't really beat it's handling whether on FWD or 4WD on demand. Any FWD car or SUV can have wheelspin if you purposely make it happen. When the cx5 is already moving and you floor the pedal to overtake, to avoid unexpected obstacles, etc it can do that without wheelspin.

So many fake news out there and anyone could purposely come up with such story on certain intention.

Back to @Duckies shortlist, if he chose Civic, he doesn't have to worry about resale value or after sales. Honda spent almost rm10 million on spare parts and facilities. Also the best marketing strategist are in Honda.

The sportage, it's just too ugly like China made copycar. Koreans keep throwing discounts like mad, but still can't sell because public lost confidence after the numbers of reliability incidents and worst after sales. A car has poor resale value becoz nobody want to buy 2nd hand. Which explains the high numbers of unsold old stock in the yard

Don't change the subject and twist here and there. TS thread is about his choices of upcoming car. It looks more like you trying to drag irrelevant things to steer the debate away from the shortlisted cars.

I have checked through local reviewers qualities and most of them are lousy with poor knowledge, some infected and some can be infected to write based on request.

Wow, now you drag political party into talk some more. You want to compare CX5 vs Shortage, here's professional review.

Design wise CX5 of course, futuristic with fighter jet air intake style grille. Build quality exterior and interior CX5 won with lots of nice premium soft dash, panels, seats.

Torque, acceleration, NVH, fuel consumption, resale value, long term ownership cost, won by CX5. Handling great and safety wise, needless to say Matsuda always scored well.

Reason why Sportage slashed price to rm110k B-segment range because it failed to take on CRV, CX5 so end up taking on smaller brother HRV. Uh, the CX3 also more expensive and can sell far more than Sportage, aduhai kesian..

So few Sportage sold, automatic spare part shops don't bother to bring in stock. Forte that sold so many also have cases of no spare parts, need to import. Now the current Shortage even worse then for being so rare on the road. Care to explain the numbers of Korean cars being towed to service cemtres and left with no spare parts and super expensive charges? The cost is almost equivalent to overhauling a Japanese 4 cylinder engine. Better i buy CX5, spare parts more expensive than Honda but at least still many.

Forever01 can't accept others opinion, you can see his argument with other forumners in your thread earlier. He probably didn't know that moderators and neutral forum need have certified that I am not trolling. Acquitted and a free forumner.

I see, you're looking at diesel sportage. The sluggish you're referring is turbo lag as the turbocharger only kicks in from 1750rpm. Diesel engine only works well with turbocharger drawing in dense air to burn well.

Before you choose Shortage, consider these questions:
- Do you know at least some basic knowledge in removing air intake? If no and you care about removing and replacing battery DIY then sportage is not suitable for you. The photo, you can see the battery is blocked by air intake inlet requiring you to remove air intake first before replace battery. If clumsy mechanic forgot to put back the air intake then debris and particles will sure enter combustion chamber which can be disastrous.
- Do you have 2nd car at home?
- Do you care about after sales service, spare parts cost and availability?
- Do you mind if facing difficulty in selling the sportage in 7, 9 or over 10 years later? Are you ready to face low resale value? Unlike forte, the sportage demand is low.

If you are heavily concern about these, then better you go for CX5 if you're more towards practicality and wanted safe. Yes 19" rims are costly replace and not practical especially when the sportage is not even a performance SUV. Luxury brands like BMW or Merc only fit 19" rim on models with powerful performance version for high speed traction.

Btw, how much does Kia offer you? Similar price as low or high spec CX5 2.0L?

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ECO, normal and sport mode only shorten or delay gearshift. It does not cause sluggishness. A turbocharged diesel engine, rpm below turbocharger effectiveness level, it is not as efficient as petrol engine therefore it feels sluggish at start. Whether you set to eco or sport mode, during turbo lag rpm you sure feels weaker compared to petrol 2.0L.

Your 1-3 shows that you're not suitable to get Sportage.
1. The battery blocked by air intake, say the battery defective, failed to charge battery and required jump start, the positive head is visible but the negative head is less accessible which makes jumpstart difficult. If you need to remove battery on roadside, you must know how to open the air intake and put it back. Else, you need to tow or call mechanic to do it for a fee.

2. & 3. You may check with forte and optima owners that were affected by defective electronics, how many days did they leave their cars there without spare parts and how much did they have to forkout to buy the imported parts. SC no spare part bought from outside spare parts suppliers. Going through few hands and parties, markup also charged few times.

So these defective parts caused by lousy materials from Korean manufacturers, their service centres and principals refused to bear responsibility because warranty ended leaving owners paying dearly. Worse is, these cars were hot selling in high volume when new can have no spare part? New sportage truly "tak laku" with so few owners, do you think they will stock in lots of spare parts just for the few sold units in long term?

Uh, Mazda 6AT is actually more silky smooth compared to Korean 6AT that has gear hunting feel. CX5 is suitable for town, highway and even sepang racetrack driving.

You just admitted that Shortage gear shift jerky. Other cars on sports mode, only delay gearshift but not jerky because of lockup torque converter. Thanks for clarifying the bad gear shift in Sportage. I drive Mazda delayed gearshift still smooth when shifting late.

Everyone here is replying based on TS shortlist. This is not sportage thread anymore since TS mentioned Mazda.

You want to say the serious electronic issues and the owners left with no spare parts for weeks didn't happen? Even if you call in anti-fake news enforcers, they can prove that my comments are genuine. Instead, they find irrelevant results in your claim such as after sales not important. So you want to say it's OK to wait few weeks to months for single part to arrive that the car has to be left at workshop that long if the owner has only 1 car to ferry family members to school and work?

Mazda management has much serious politics which is the main cause of those complain. Ubder new PH ruling, those incompetent rotten apples that are so free to play politics in company will be flushed out soon.

Due to high numbers of Mazda owners, outside spare parts suppliers are stocking in stocks so no worry on spare parts anyway. For those who owned Mazda, they'll be happy after Mazda major staff replacement.

Yes, when technical staffs are underpaid at Bangla level and mistreated with overworked, expect those complains and problems especially those incomplete people managing the compamy. Now PH taking over with numbers of policies overwritten, things will be better during major GLC mass replacement of rotten staff.

For 2.0L petrol engine in SUV, real world 100% city FC is normally 8-9km/L. Start stop function only helps reduce idling FC. I would have it bypass after warranty ends.

Are you in a hurry to get new ride? Will you wait for SST readjustment or ignore?

Tuning the ECU would not help much but only end up with way higher fuel consumption especially above 1750rpm when turbocharger drawing dense air. The 2.0 diesel already tuned to real high output and torque. If you tune further, the FC will be real thirsty. Weakness of diesel engine, it lacks the horsepower required for speed below turbocharger effective rpm.