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post Apr 4 2018, 06:57 AM

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QUOTE(Effy92 @ Apr 3 2018, 09:57 PM)
Servicing a Kia/Hyundai at service actually cheaper than Honda.
Cerato
Oil filter rm19.10
Engine air filter rm60.90
Minor service labourĀ  rm70

Rio
Oil filter rm17.22
Engine air filter rm46.90
Minor service labourĀ  rm70

City
Oil filter rm31
engine air filter rm83.67
minor service labour rm120

Replacement part price such as bumper, lamp, side mirror also about the same if comparing same segment.

The only advantage of common Japanese car is buying part outside sc maybe can get cheaper price. But do you change bumper, side mirror, alternator every year ?

Now internet era can source part online like ebay even lazada also got sell korean part.
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Wow, that's a good break down for the cost and maintenance fees! That's the information I am looking for! laugh.gif

QUOTE(seanjiaqian @ Apr 3 2018, 11:14 PM)
While i wish to help clearing TS' doubt, on the other hand the selfish me wished that less people gets this rare gem which i own.

I've met a number of owners who are owning their 2nd or 3rd KIAs. If KIA is a "lousy" car, there will not be repeat owners.

Frankly i don't know about prices of those major replacement parts, bcoz i was nvr required to during the tenure of owning my 1st KIA which is still going strong. Why worry about spare parts when a KIA car only requires normal maintenance services in at least 5-7 years?
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Well, it's better to be safe than sorry. Don't wanna buy a car then ended up can't afford to repair just in case it broke down right laugh.gif

QUOTE(shondown @ Apr 4 2018, 12:25 AM)
If you are most town driving, its even better with diesel. The torque is a lot higher, meaning easier to stop and go at the traffic light.

And yeah... the 2.0 liter engine is very not suitable for such a heavy SUV.

Honestly, if you are looking for the most tech-loaded SUV, the new CR-V is the best because of its Honda Sensing.
(It is a shame Naza did not bring the REAL fully loaded Sportage - it has all the tech as the Honda)
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Initially was thinking CR-V because it's the most tech loaded SUV for now but it's ugly in my opinion sweat.gif

Plus I did some comparison, I think Kia Sportage is not missing much except the infotainment system is not as good as Honda but I can live with that tongue.gif tongue.gif

The diesel model of Kia Sportage is kinda out of my budget sweat.gif How's the petrol version performance? Easy to hit 140-160 on highway?

This post has been edited by Duckies: Apr 4 2018, 06:59 AM
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post Apr 4 2018, 07:24 AM

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Well, it's no surprise that people still have bad perceptions for Korean cars. Their SC is really bad, even the official ones from Naza. Only a few from Naza is actually reputable.

As for the car, I suggest you go for test drive then only try to find good deals online. All those in KL/Selangor can't give a good deal because they are mostly under Naza umbrella. The one not operated under Naza are the ones where you get better deals. You get additional discount and even 3 years free service. Additionally, some authorised sc are friendly and even help you install official kit that you bought from ebay like auto cruise module for Rio.
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post Apr 4 2018, 08:04 AM

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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Apr 4 2018, 07:24 AM)
Well, it's no surprise that people still have bad perceptions for Korean cars. Their SC is really bad, even the official ones from Naza. Only a few from Naza is actually reputable.

As for the car, I suggest you go for test drive then only try to find good deals online. All those in KL/Selangor can't give a good deal because they are mostly under Naza umbrella. The one not operated under Naza are the ones where you get better deals. You get additional discount and even 3 years free service. Additionally, some authorised sc are friendly and even help you install official kit that you bought from ebay like auto cruise module for Rio.
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How's the SC in KL? Why do you say their SC is bad? Can you share some stories?

Was looking into this GT Petrol model from Ipoh branch.
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post Apr 4 2018, 08:52 AM

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Having own a Sportage GT Awd since 2011, I can say that the maintenance cost is almost comparable to Japs cars. The periodic servicing cost is about the same of my missus 2014 CRV Awd.
Minor servicing at SC cost me between 2 to 3 hundreds, while wear and tear/consumable parts like brake pads, wipers, etc, can be replaced or installed cheaper at outside workshop.
I believed for new models, Naza also gives 3 years free servicing, incl parts and labours, so ownership should be comparable to Japs cars.

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QUOTE(Duckies @ Apr 4 2018, 08:04 AM)
How's the SC in KL? Why do you say their SC is bad? Can you share some stories?

Was looking into this GT Petrol model from Ipoh branch.
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Previously I tried walk in to their branch in kota damansara to enquire about something. The receptionist told me they only had junior technicians. Told me to go to Red Cube PJ.

Personally I really prefer the authorised sc in Kota Kemuning named JD Auto.
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post Apr 4 2018, 09:09 AM

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QUOTE(widget @ Apr 4 2018, 08:52 AM)
Having own a Sportage GT Awd since 2011, I can say that the maintenance cost is almost comparable to Japs cars. The periodic servicing cost is about the same of my missus 2014 CRV Awd.
Minor servicing at SC cost me between 2 to 3 hundreds, while wear and tear/consumable parts like brake pads, wipers, etc, can be replaced or installed cheaper at outside workshop.
I believed for new models, Naza also gives 3 years free servicing, incl parts and labours, so ownership should be comparable to Japs cars.
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Thanks! That's the information I am looking for! How's the car performance and pickup?

QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Apr 4 2018, 08:55 AM)
Previously I tried walk in to their branch in kota damansara to enquire about something. The receptionist told me they only had junior technicians. Told me to go to Red Cube PJ.

Personally I really prefer the authorised sc in Kota Kemuning named JD Auto.
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Any bad stories on the service so far?
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post Apr 4 2018, 09:45 AM

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QUOTE(Duckies @ Apr 4 2018, 06:57 AM)
Initially was thinking CR-V because it's the most tech loaded SUV for now but it's ugly in my opinion sweat.gif

Plus I did some comparison, I think Kia Sportage is not missing much except the infotainment system is not as good as Honda but I can live with that tongue.gif  tongue.gif

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Actually, no... You do miss a lot from a Honda Sensing equivalent. The ones I'm interested the most is the LKA and Active Cruise. But yeah... The new CR-V is, at best, not as good looking as the old ones. The back is hideous, and what's up with the very tiny turn signal?!

QUOTE(Duckies @ Apr 4 2018, 08:04 AM)

Was looking into this GT Petrol model from Ipoh branch.
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My wife used to send her Rio X at Falim SC. She said its OK even though the place is quite run down and most of the technicians are new and inexperienced. I mean, I have to godek godek the HU myself to get the Mirrorlink to work, because they said there are no such thing (it's in your brochure for God's sake!). On the flip side, easy to get appointments la...

From what I gather, the best northern SC is still Georgetown branch
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post Apr 4 2018, 09:51 AM

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QUOTE(shondown @ Apr 4 2018, 09:45 AM)
Actually, no... You do miss a lot from a Honda Sensing equivalent. The ones I'm interested the most is the LKA and Active Cruise. But yeah... The new CR-V is, at best, not as good looking as the old ones. The back is hideous, and what's up with the very tiny turn signal?!
My wife used to send her Rio X at Falim SC. She said its OK even though the place is quite run down and most of the technicians are new and inexperienced. I mean, I have to godek godek the HU myself to get the Mirrorlink to work, because they said there are no such thing (it's in your brochure for God's sake!). On the flip side, easy to get appointments la...

From what I gather, the best northern SC is still Georgetown branch
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YES!! The back is hideous! I prefer the old CR-V design laugh.gif

My hometown is in Ipoh but I am in KL most of the time. So if I were to go to a SC, it would be in KL laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Duckies @ Apr 4 2018, 09:09 AM)
Thanks! That's the information I am looking for! How's the car performance and pickup?
Any bad stories on the service so far?
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Performance wise, the NA 2.0l engine is not the best pair for a mid-size SUV with AWD.
It will struggle for hill accent or overtaking, and the fuel consumption is very bad especially if you are stuck in traffic jam.
For 2011-2016 AWD model, many users including myself only gotten about 300-350 km range on full tank of 55l for city driving.

I'm driving a 2018 Mazda CX-5 2.2D Fwd now and on almost the same full tank, I'm getting about 650-700 km
I've considered the 2018 Sportage 2.0l Diesel but I opted for the CX-5 due to the look and driving dynamic

As for KV SC, try NSS Glenmarie or KIA Setapak.
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post Apr 4 2018, 01:28 PM

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QUOTE(widget @ Apr 4 2018, 12:02 PM)
Performance wise, the NA 2.0l engine is not the best pair for a mid-size SUV with AWD.
It will struggle for hill accent or overtaking, and the fuel consumption is very bad especially if you are stuck in traffic jam.
For 2011-2016 AWD model, many users including myself only gotten about 300-350 km range on full tank of 55l for city driving.

I'm driving a 2018 Mazda CX-5 2.2D Fwd now and on almost the same full tank, I'm getting about 650-700 km
I've considered the 2018 Sportage 2.0l Diesel but I opted for the CX-5 due to the look and driving dynamic

As for KV SC, try NSS Glenmarie or KIA Setapak.
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Your AWD Petrol or Diesel model? The Mazda CX-5 was on diesel but the old Kia Sportage is on Petrol? hmm.gif

Also the specs I am looking at should be GT 2WD only hmm.gif Not sure if it'll fare better against the Petrol AWD hmm.gif

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post Apr 4 2018, 02:07 PM

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QUOTE(widget @ Apr 4 2018, 12:02 PM)
Performance wise, the NA 2.0l engine is not the best pair for a mid-size SUV with AWD.
It will struggle for hill accent or overtaking, and the fuel consumption is very bad especially if you are stuck in traffic jam.
For 2011-2016 AWD model, many users including myself only gotten about 300-350 km range on full tank of 55l for city driving.

I'm driving a 2018 Mazda CX-5 2.2D Fwd now and on almost the same full tank, I'm getting about 650-700 km
I've considered the 2018 Sportage 2.0l Diesel but I opted for the CX-5 due to the look and driving dynamic

As for KV SC, try NSS Glenmarie or KIA Setapak.
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QUOTE(Forever01 @ Apr 4 2018, 12:24 PM)
cool, i test drove both too and end up getting a sportage diesel over cx5 diesel due to interior space, paddle shifter, awd, looks, seats comfort and noise insulation, while i miss the cx5 blind spot info, faster gear shift and heavier steering on high speed too
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Interesting...since we have owners with CX5 Diesel and Sportage Diesel as well, could both of you share your consumption mileage (km/L or L/100km) Thanks.

As for my Sorento, City driving I'm getting around 9km/L as an average; with 40km/h driving speed

For Highway, I havent really had a change to record, although had done many trips to Ipoh and Kulim, just that due to the trip circumstances, I had to stop in between for town driving within the trip....so no pure highway records, but guess should be getting around 12-13km/L

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QUOTE(Forever01 @ Apr 4 2018, 02:26 PM)
im still havent done my first 1k service yet, im getting 16km/L on highway

his cx5 should be better than mine because his cx5 is FWD and my sportage is AWD

your sorento is AWD? i test drove sorento too and the noise insulation and chassis is great
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Ahh...diesel as well. I wonder how many km/L for petrol specs hmm.gif
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QUOTE(Forever01 @ Apr 4 2018, 02:38 PM)
for petrol, my guess based on youtube reviews, is lower than crv and cx5

for example, crv get 15km/L, cx5 get 14km/L, maybe sportage is getting 12km/L

just a guess only, because reviews said petrol sportage is lower than them
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If that's the case then should be still acceptable. Cause the previous bro was saying this
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For 2011-2016 AWD model, many users including myself only gotten about 300-350 km range on full tank of 55l for city driving.

I'm driving a 2018 Mazda CX-5 2.2D Fwd now and on almost the same full tank, I'm getting about 650-700 km


That's like 50% lesser man!

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QUOTE(Forever01 @ Apr 4 2018, 02:26 PM)
im still havent done my first 1k service yet, im getting 16km/L on highway

his cx5 should be better than mine because his cx5 is FWD and my sportage is AWD

your sorento is AWD? i test drove sorento too and the noise insulation and chassis is great
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Thats good. And ya, mine is AWD as well (gasoline). Thought of diesel, but the diesel quality out of klang valley is questionable hence discouraged about it

waiting for widget to provide his mileage smile.gif


QUOTE(Duckies @ Apr 4 2018, 02:41 PM)
If that's the case then should be still acceptable. Cause the previous bro was saying this
That's like 50% lesser man!
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maybe the gas tank is different in size? km/L or L/100km should provide better comparison.

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QUOTE(VeeJay @ Apr 4 2018, 03:57 PM)
Thats good. And ya, mine is AWD as well (gasoline). Thought of diesel, but the diesel quality out of klang valley is questionable hence discouraged about it
maybe the gas tank is different in size? km/L or L/100km should provide better comparison.
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I was expecting to be around 10 to 12 km/L for city drive hmm.gif That's for 2WD though. Do you think it's somewhere there?
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QUOTE(Forever01 @ Apr 4 2018, 02:50 PM)
i think thats because his sportage is AWD and city driving for sure fuel consumption is high

FWD should be having lower fuel consumption
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On sportage cant you deactivate the AWD?
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QUOTE(Forever01 @ Apr 4 2018, 05:14 PM)
cannot, and if diesel model i think better dont turn off due to too powerful, petrol still ok.

because i heard a lot of people saying their cx5 diesel FWD is having wheel spin when press pedal at corner, quite dangerous...
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Encountered few times before on my CX-5 2.2D FWD.
But mainly when exiting from minor junction to main road.

My fuel consumption for mix driving is 15km/L.
On highway following speed limit with RPM around 2k, getting about 18km/L
For city driving, stuck at traffic jam, about 12-13km/L.
Mind you, my engine is not seasoned yet as only clocked 4k km on the odometer.

The full tanks on my CX-5 and 2011 Kia Sportage are 55/56l
I'm not sure what are the changes made to the new 2.0NA engine on the new Sportage.
But IIRC, the Nu engine on the facelifted 2013 model is more economical

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Loving what I read so far in this tered... great info guys.
I always wanted to have a SUV for my next vehicle... maybe in another 5-6 years hopefully sweat.gif

QUOTE(Forever01 @ Apr 4 2018, 02:26 PM)
im still havent done my first 1k service yet, im getting 16km/L on highway

his cx5 should be better than mine because his cx5 is FWD and my sportage is AWD

your sorento is AWD? i test drove sorento too and the noise insulation and chassis is great
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The new ones? It'd better be. My 2014 K3 road noise is unbelievable. Even after changing to "quieter" tyre.

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QUOTE(shondown @ Apr 4 2018, 08:42 PM)
Loving what I read so far in this tered... great info guys.
I always wanted to have a SUV for my next vehicle... maybe in another 5-6 years hopefully  sweat.gif
The new ones? It'd better be. My 2014 K3 road noise is unbelievable. Even after changing to "quieter" tyre.
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,mine is 2013 Sorento...the insulation, internal build and stability is great...no complaints...my only complaint is the info panel doesnt come with multiple mileage measurement, although the odometer meter is dual.
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QUOTE(widget @ Apr 4 2018, 06:05 PM)
Encountered few times before on my CX-5 2.2D FWD.
But mainly when exiting from minor junction to main road.

My fuel consumption for mix driving is 15km/L.
On highway following speed limit with RPM around 2k, getting about 18km/L
For city driving, stuck at traffic jam, about 12-13km/L.
Mind you, my engine is not seasoned yet as only clocked 4k km on the odometer.

The full tanks on my CX-5 and 2011 Kia Sportage are 55/56l
I'm not sure what are the changes made to the new 2.0NA engine on the new Sportage.
But IIRC, the Nu engine on the facelifted 2013 model is more economical
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wow city driving is really awesome....did you note what was the average speed for city driving on your CX5?

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