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> buyer made spoilt still can claim.. not fair, no warranty item no claim = rule

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post May 13 2007, 09:59 AM

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QUOTE(ElisaChin @ May 13 2007, 09:46 AM)
ya.. maybe some of u all just dont think bout me..
1.saying i dint show him pic. did he ask for another pic?
2.saying im not given p.warranty. i said to him and he agreed to buy. im not forcing him.
3.dont said im a bad seller as im not forcing him with a knife or anything to buy the phone. just my i duno how to pack more well only.

to u buyer, u asking more than twice already. i already said no warranty unless cod. u ask again after item sent out also no use.. the answer is NO. i also dint get any msg from u bout warranty after that.

ya.. i i dont trust pos laju but i stated to send by pos laju so without warranty, buyer know that, buyer can request for other courier if he/she want. but did him?

TO to u who talking like very pro. ya.. newbie all selling thing like CON. arent u r newbie before..? i just know this forum and just join so wat..? last time when u joined here, ppl talk like this to u, u happy? not all newbie like u said, use ur brain 1st. if im selling broken item or wanna CON him, i can just keep quiet and dun bother him since my account still newbie and i can create again.
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so fine! u said NO WARRANTY..keep saying THAT!haiya..irrensponsible SELLER mad.gif

but HOW BOUT THE PACKAGING? shakehead.gif
u not TRUST POSLAJU...but, its one of yr rensponsibility too dude...i ask u to wrapping with BUBLE WRAPPER..but u said,ya..ya...i will packaging in NICE CONDITION... wink.gif shakehead.gif wink.gif

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post May 13 2007, 10:01 AM

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So in other words, its considered as your policy to take a pic of the front and that's it?

I.e. The front looks okay but the back scratched to hell and/or not functioning.

You're considered as a bad seller for not being more forthcoming about the condition of the phone.
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post May 13 2007, 11:24 AM

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alright.. i think we've bashed the seller quite a lot here. Both sides are in the wrong. The seller for not packing the items correctly and the buyer for agreeing to shipping without personal warranty (ok so he didn't say he agrees, but buy banking in the money its counted as he agrees). Now we should try to find a way to solve this.

Maybe the buyer can get a quotation on how much it would cost to repair the phone, then each side pays half?
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post May 13 2007, 11:56 AM

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QUOTE(zx12 @ May 13 2007, 11:24 AM)
alright.. i think we've bashed the seller quite a lot here. Both sides are in the wrong. The seller for not packing the items correctly and the buyer for agreeing to shipping without personal warranty (ok so he didn't say he agrees, but buy banking in the money its counted as he agrees). Now we should try to find a way to solve this.

Maybe the buyer can get a quotation on how much it would cost to repair the phone, then each side pays half?
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ok...find it ALSO MY FAULT..BANK IN THE MONEY,so the seller agree to send and me as the BUYER agree the TERMS AND CONDITITON(without personal warranty)

i already call VELSON...the repair speacilist in this forum.lowyet.net

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=445586&hl=repair

he said the problem might be due DROP the PHONE...and i assume its happen when POSLAJU sending it to me...

on what he said the RANGE PRICE to fix this problem is RM60-rm80...
if u the SELLER not TRUST on what i said,u can call him 0123669966 (Velson)

so now,its up to you SELLER..if u as the rensponsible seller in this forum, as what zx12 said...each side pays half so, i would consider on what he said...ITS YOUR FAULT AND ALSO MY FAULT...u pay RM35 and from my pocket money RM35...

if ANYONE can NOT TRUST ME..u CAN call me anytime at 0126247858..and send one forumer to see this HP..now until this evening, i at bandar menjalara kepong..and tonight until this wednesday i'm in GOMBAK...

thanx to all forumers that help to solve our problem

p/s= the same CONNECTION PROBLEM here...IN VELSON THREADhttp://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=11318529

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post May 13 2007, 11:59 AM

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QUOTE(zx12 @ May 13 2007, 11:24 AM)
alright.. i think we've bashed the seller quite a lot here. Both sides are in the wrong. The seller for not packing the items correctly and the buyer for agreeing to shipping without personal warranty (ok so he didn't say he agrees, but buy banking in the money its counted as he agrees). Now we should try to find a way to solve this.

Maybe the buyer can get a quotation on how much it would cost to repair the phone, then each side pays half?
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the phone is reach to him and i dont know either is got dropped or not.. already said no warranty but still pay for the repair cost? wats the different between no warranty and warranty?

just now the one who mentioned with chocolate thing.
food is food. this is item! now think before u say. the item u bought from supermarket is no warranty item and u take back and use. after few days, its broken and u go to supermarket ask for claim? No warranty isue!
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post May 13 2007, 12:03 PM

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QUOTE(ElisaChin @ May 13 2007, 11:59 AM)
the phone is reach to him and i dont know either is got dropped or not.. already said no warranty but still pay for the repair cost? wats the different between no warranty and warranty?

just now the one who mentioned with chocolate thing.
food is food. this is item! now think before u say. the item u bought from supermarket is no warranty item and u take back and use. after few days, its broken and u go to supermarket ask for claim? No warranty isue!
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ok,so now its yr rensponsibility dude... blush.gif

because its also yr fault in BAD PACKAGING ohmy.gif

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post May 13 2007, 12:10 PM

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QUOTE(ElisaChin @ May 13 2007, 11:59 AM)
the phone is reach to him and i dont know either is got dropped or not.. already said no warranty but still pay for the repair cost? wats the different between no warranty and warranty?

just now the one who mentioned with chocolate thing.
food is food. this is item! now think before u say. the item u bought from supermarket is no warranty item and u take back and use. after few days, its broken and u go to supermarket ask for claim? No warranty isue!
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miss..its your word against his.. can you prove that the phone was working fine before you sent it to him? same as he can't prove that purposely sent him a faulty phone. In one of your post, you agreed that you didn't not pack the item properly (quoted below).

QUOTE(ElisaChin @ May 13 2007, 09:46 AM)
ya.. maybe some of u all just dont think bout me..
1.saying i dint show him pic. did he ask for another pic?
2.saying im not given p.warranty. i said to him and he agreed to buy. im not forcing him.
3.dont said im a bad seller as im not forcing him with a knife or anything to buy the phone. just my i duno how to pack more well only.

to u buyer, u asking more than twice already. i already said no warranty unless cod. u ask again after item sent out also no use.. the answer is NO. i also dint get any msg from u bout warranty after that.
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So, like I said before, both sides are in the wrong. That is why you shouldn't have to pay the full repair cost, and neither should he. If you ask me, i believe he has made a very reasonable offer. Its not a big amount to pay to maintain your reputation as a good and responsible seller here at LYN. This is just my suggestion. What you do is up to you.
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QUOTE(ElisaChin @ May 13 2007, 11:59 AM)
the phone is reach to him and i dont know either is got dropped or not.. already said no warranty but still pay for the repair cost? wats the different between no warranty and warranty?

just now the one who mentioned with chocolate thing.
food is food. this is item! now think before u say. the item u bought from supermarket is no warranty item and u take back and use. after few days, its broken and u go to supermarket ask for claim? No warranty isue!
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but TS, the main problem might came from ur packaging..
means the buyer received the phone that is already faulty..
so u r responsible for this..
and its ur own fault not showing the most scratch part even the buyer didnt ask for it (for me, it seems u were hiding that spot)

so i think this might be a solution;
1 - full refund
2 - share the repair cost
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post May 13 2007, 12:17 PM

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QUOTE(kalakatu @ May 13 2007, 12:11 PM)
but TS, the main problem might came from ur packaging..
means the buyer received the phone that is already faulty..
so u r responsible for this..
and its ur own fault not showing the most scratch part even the buyer didnt ask for it (for me, it seems u were hiding that spot)

so i think this might be a solution;
1 - full refund
2 - share the repair cost
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and i already offer her to share the repair cost..as i also RUGI lor cry.gif ! better find fone at the shop rather buy from this seller

so, i'm still waiting REPLY from the seller wink.gif
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post May 13 2007, 12:27 PM

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im not going to argue or quarrel.. u guys just cant explain all wat i told here. i dont know he is ur fren or bcoz im newbie so u guys just like this treat me.

if cant understand all the explain then just read this point

no warranty = no claim

watever u all wanna say.. im fed up.

to u this good buyer.
i also wanna buy item without warranty for cheaper price and after i did it broken and i get ur full refund. if any seller is so good like this pls intro.
pls intro me. u be my seller if can.. i bought ur console and play for few days and i modified or wat then its broken and i wan ur full refund back. talk with brain pls.
u think ppl sell u item is new item or wat? new item sure i giv u warranty by cod if not also got the company warranty but this is second hand item somemore alreadt stated very clear no Warranty!

dont try to bully me bcoz im newbie here.
when u sign contract or buy item also got policy!
stated no warranty mean no warranty! u can sue them? u wait longer la.

This post has been edited by ElisaChin: May 13 2007, 12:33 PM
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QUOTE(ElisaChin @ May 13 2007, 12:27 PM)
im not going to argue or quarrel.. u guys just cant explain all wat i told here. i dont know he is ur fren or bcoz im newbie so u guys just like this treat me.

if cant understand all the explain then just read this point

no warranty = no claim

watever u all wanna say.. im fed up.
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irrensponsible seller! mad.gif

u think ITS NOT YR FAULT?so,tell me and others..WHY U THINK ITS NOT YR FAULT?interms condition before u packaging,YR PACKGING...ETC...TELL LA!

SO,ALL FORUMERS...WHAT DO YOU THINK? shakehead.gif shakehead.gif

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QUOTE(kcgboyz @ May 13 2007, 12:33 PM)
irrensponsible seller! mad.gif

u think ITS NOT YR FAULT?
SO,ALL FORUMERS...WHAT DO YOU THINK? shakehead.gif  shakehead.gif
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u dun have word? why need ppl support..? talk by ur way with ur own support word la.. go hire lawyer or find police and sue me now.. go Penang petani road find the head DSP Tan loo kim pls.. tell him u wan sue me coz i sold u a non warranty item and u found its broken. its easier for u all.. just wasting my time to keep explain and explain
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QUOTE(ElisaChin @ May 13 2007, 12:36 PM)
u dun have word? why need ppl support..? talk by ur way with ur own support word la.. go hire lawyer or find police and sue me now.. go Penang petani road find the head DSP Tan loo kim pls.. tell him u wan sue me coz i sold u a non warranty item and u found its broken. its easier for u all.. just wasting my time to keep explain and explain
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OK,now the problem as VELSON said it because DROP..and when it reach my house i test it and alredy GOT PROBLEM! dont want to say again...can read my previous post...

ok,now i want to settle it in a GOOD WAY...not by report to police..if not, yr details,bank account will be blacklist..i dont to make like that.thats why i telling you...we settle in by SHARE THE REPAIR COST..thats all...in a good way!...U RUGI AND I RUGI...ITS YOUR FAULT AND ALSO MY FAULT

dude! u open this thread to discuss bout this and you ask me to get in here...and the main important is to GET OPINION from other forumers...and not me WANT SUPPORT FROM OTHERS FOR MY SIDE!...

and i'm not telling its yr fault, but other forumer also said U WRONG...so..i had declared that its also my problem...

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QUOTE(kcgboyz @ May 13 2007, 12:42 PM)
OK,now the problem as VELSON said it because DROP..and when it reach my house i test it and alredy GOT PROBLEM! dont want to say again...can read my previous post...

ok,now i want to settle it in a GOOD WAY...not by report to police..if not, yr details,bank account will be blacklist..i dont to make like that.thats why i telling you...we settle in by SHARE THE REPAIR COST..thats all...in a good way!...U RUGI AND I RUGI...ITS YOUR FAULT AND ALSO MY FAULT

dude! u open this thread to discuss bout this and you ask me to get in here...and the main important is to GET OPINION from other forumers...and not me WANT SUPPORT FROM OTHERS FOR MY SIDE!...

and i'm not telling its yr fault, but other forumer also said U WRONG...so..i had declared that its also my problem...
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dude..? u calling urself..? blacklist? yea.. good try.. i wish i can meet the other seller like this.. i wan buy a hp and after i found got broken, then i can share my repair cost with the seller.. nice idea.. whos is the nice seller..? pls intro me again..
if can, next time i find u buy.. i sure intro my fren go find u buy.. this seller service is super good deal..
final word to u.. dun ever said blacklist if u duno wat is blacklist and u r not the ppl judge me! go to sleep and put ur pillow upper!

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QUOTE(ElisaChin @ May 13 2007, 01:01 PM)
dude..? u calling urself..? blacklist? yea.. good try.. i wish i can meet the other seller like this.. i wan buy a hp and after i found got broken, then i can share my repair cost with the seller.. nice idea.. whos is the nice seller..? pls intro me again..
if can, next time i find u buy.. i sure intro my fren go find u buy.. this seller service is super good deal..
final word to u.. dun ever said blacklist if u duno wat is blacklist and u r not the ppl judge me! go to sleep and put ur pillow upper!
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hmm.gif hmm.gif mad.gif hmm.gif u should think forward seller!
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what's wrong with the TS.she lost her mind or wat?kcgboys already agree to share to fix the phone.dont know what happen to ppl in lyn nowadays......
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QUOTE(ElisaChin @ May 13 2007, 12:27 PM)
im not going to argue or quarrel.. u guys just cant explain all wat i told here. i dont know he is ur fren or bcoz im newbie so u guys just like this treat me.

if cant understand all the explain then just read this point

no warranty = no claim

watever u all wanna say.. im fed up.

to u this good buyer.
i also wanna buy item without warranty for cheaper price and after i did it broken and i get ur full refund. if any seller is so good like this pls intro.
pls intro me. u be my seller if can.. i bought ur console and play for few days and i modified or wat then its broken and i wan ur full refund back. talk with brain pls.
u think ppl sell u item is new item or wat? new item sure i giv u warranty by cod if not also got the company warranty but this is second hand item somemore alreadt stated very clear no Warranty!

dont try to bully me bcoz im newbie here.
when u sign contract or buy item also got policy!
stated no warranty mean no warranty! u can sue them? u wait longer la.
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you opened this thread asking for people's opinion. A lot of us think that it's due to shipping mishap. I say this again, hopefully for the last time. You have done wrong because you did not pack the item properly. The buyer has done wrong because he agreed to a no warranty condition, but the item is dead on arrival. Hence, both of you should bear the repair costs.

I don't think I can make it any clearer.

Psst.. I'm not the buyer's friend nor do i have any relation to him whatsoever. icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(ElisaChin @ May 13 2007, 01:01 PM)
dude..? u calling urself..? blacklist? yea.. good try.. i wish i can meet the other seller like this.. i wan buy a hp and after i found got broken, then i can share my repair cost with the seller.. nice idea.. whos is the nice seller..? pls intro me again..
if can, next time i find u buy.. i sure intro my fren go find u buy.. this seller service is super good deal..
final word to u.. dun ever said blacklist if u duno wat is blacklist and u r not the ppl judge me! go to sleep and put ur pillow upper!
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frens...we don buly newb or wat
don alw use the word "brain" ok??
we r here to b judge...
we r not bias to buyer...
pls u calm down...
at 1st u did a very wrong decision by not giving personal warranty
and i don knw y the buyer can agree on this
no statement state that poslaju does not come with personal warranty
but since buyer agree..its his fault

but do u know wat is personal warranty mean??
it means the item is out of warranty from manufacturer
but the seller alw advice to give personal warranty as a trust to the buyer
it is very common...common sense
pls think bout it

since u don trust poslaju...then u can choose to do COD only
its ur choice...
i understand how u think...u think u done nothing wrong..mayb yes
but that is a culture here...as a newb u must learn the culture
don come here and shout wat got brain no brain

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QUOTE(ali_boulala @ May 13 2007, 01:27 PM)
what's wrong with the TS.she lost her mind or wat?kcgboys already agree to share to fix the phone.dont know what happen to ppl in lyn nowadays......
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keep ur mouth shut la mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif
pls don simply shout here...u thought watching football match ah??
get out!! vmad.gif

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QUOTE(ElisaChin @ May 13 2007, 12:36 PM)
u dun have word? why need ppl support..? talk by ur way with ur own support word la.. go hire lawyer or find police and sue me now.. go Penang petani road find the head DSP Tan loo kim pls.. tell him u wan sue me coz i sold u a non warranty item and u found its broken. its easier for u all.. just wasting my time to keep explain and explain
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elisachin, we are here not bias or watsoever..
u asked for an opinion, and we gave it..
but it seems like u wanna settle this on ur own way..
well, thats up to u, but its not fair to the buyer..

since the buyer already asked for a shared repair cost, why dun u juz accept it?

or another option is, if u really think u were telling the truth about the phone was in a good condition before posted it, then i would like to see the photos of it..i mean photos before u send it..

yes, buyer didnt ask for it, but now I AM asking it..

can u do that plz? smile.gif
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Ok for those want to contact me or asking something about this matter@problem..just call/sms me..

either the SELLER or MODERATOR or STAFF or POLICE or any FORUMERS...

to this number 0126247858..although i know, my number is so personal..i want this problem to be solve...i got many works to do..my studies...my asigmnt...and my exam will be held next week...so i am quite busy...

if anyone can answer the question from the SELLER that i thought at 1st as RELIABLE SELLER...nvm,just forget bout it...

to SELLER..if u really as RENSPONSILE SELLER...just call me, so that we can setle in good way..as i already willingly to pay, and i hope u too can share to fix the phone half of the price..

for those wo stay near in GOMBAK or BANDAr MENjalArA, u can contct me to see the phone by yr own self to be judge about this matter...

thnx.

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