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> buyer made spoilt still can claim.. not fair, no warranty item no claim = rule

SUSElisaChin
post May 11 2007, 02:37 AM, updated 19y ago

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hello.. at here wanna ask something.. help pls
i just sold a handset to a person.
that handset is totally working and dun have problem.. its been using by me untill the day i sold to him.
after sold and reach to him, after few days, he come back and find me said my phone got problem.

is this fair to a seller..? he come back to me after few days.. i duno wats the problem with the phone also coz i duno wat he did to the phone.

This post has been edited by ElisaChin: May 14 2007, 06:08 PM
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post May 11 2007, 04:27 AM

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did u state anything about personal warranty on ur thread?
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post May 11 2007, 05:09 AM

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may we know to whom you sold the hp to?

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post May 11 2007, 05:19 AM

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i dint giv personal warranty to the buyer as i stated on my thread before.. i only giv 3days personal warranty to ppl who cod with me..
so mean i dint giv her personal warranty.. he did ask me to giv her personal warranty before we deal but i denied to give coz i scare anything will happen when pos laju sending it..
the buyer is not cod from me.. i sent to him through pos laju..

its not good for me if i stated his nick here.. i only wanna clear this problem..
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post May 11 2007, 05:32 AM

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QUOTE(ElisaChin @ May 11 2007, 05:19 AM)
i dint giv personal warranty to the buyer as i stated on my thread before.. i only giv 3days personal warranty to ppl who cod with me..
so mean i dint giv her personal warranty.. he did ask me to giv her personal warranty before we deal but i denied to give coz i scare anything will happen when pos laju sending it..
the buyer is not cod from me.. i sent to him through pos laju..

its not good for me if i stated his nick here.. i only wanna clear this problem..
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Gender confusion here, it's a "he" or "she"? rclxub.gif
Alright, is the buyer aware that you are not giving him/her any personal warranty? If he is aware, he can do nothing since he agreed on the first point before any purchase is made. If he is not aware, the situation will be more complicated. smile.gif

By the way, you meant this thread? http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=451356?

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post May 11 2007, 06:38 AM

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ask him to come over here.must listen to both side.dont expect people to believe ur story
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post May 11 2007, 07:44 AM

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standard procedure of any dispute issue is that the OTHER party must be informed about the post.
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post May 11 2007, 10:38 AM

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QUOTE(ElisaChin @ May 11 2007, 05:19 AM)
i dint giv personal warranty to the buyer as i stated on my thread before.. i only giv 3days personal warranty to ppl who cod with me..
so mean i dint giv her personal warranty.. he did ask me to giv her personal warranty before we deal but i denied to give coz i scare anything will happen when pos laju sending it..
the buyer is not cod from me.. i sent to him through pos laju..

its not good for me if i stated his nick here.. i only wanna clear this problem..
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well, at least there exists warranty for postage such as warranty on DOA..

since u said u was using postage to send the phone, mind to tell us how did u wrap it?
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post May 11 2007, 10:48 AM

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Ask the buyer to come and explain whats wrong with the phone.
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post May 11 2007, 07:11 PM

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post May 11 2007, 07:22 PM

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post May 11 2007, 07:34 PM

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QUOTE(fruitie @ May 11 2007, 07:22 PM)
It is called fragile sticker . smile.gif
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yaya.. fragile with red colour 1 rite..
back to topic
im a seller.. just sell a hp rm160..
how am i gonna bear the cost of repairment if any damage occured after user been using it for few days..? its stated so clear also that i dint give any personal warranty to ppl which using pos laju or other courier service.. cod i also dare to giv 3 to 7days personal warranty only.. u know rite..? sometimes buyer modified the item bought or do anything with it and after that got problem then come back find seller.. ist its unfair?
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did u pm him to come here?or else u should close this thread
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post May 12 2007, 12:38 AM

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i already pm him come here.. he keep saying that im selling him a hp with problem.. i dont know wat is going on with him and the phone now..
the phone is well working even with the keypad and joystick..
last time im using my maxis number on the phone and i can make any calls and receive any msg but he told me like got no service.. what is happen with this phone if its really happen to him..
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post May 12 2007, 01:17 AM

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hello everyone...

i am the one who bought the e398 ....
from me from this thread

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=450634&hl=

i received the item...1stly...
i ask her for PERSONAL WARRNTY because it is POSTING...

and i know i did not know the condition of the phone..she just said that it is in good condition...

but when i get it at my house, the problem occured...

1STLY...the connection(coverage)...sometimes have and sometimes not...and sometimes shows EMERGENCY CALLS!

2NDLY...the microphone problem...problem when i was trying to call my friends,its like hear-not-hear...some like that...at the first i assumed it was connection problem...line not clear..but suddenly i found that the problem comes form the hp...

3rdly...the seller said that the condition is NORMAL WEAR AND TEAR!...but when i receive the item...it look VERY -VERY-VERY- BAD! SCRATCH HEAR AND THERE...later i will pos the PICTURE OF THE HP THAT I GET FROM HER

4th...not actually a problem..but i am the TRUSTED BUYER AND SELLER HERE....AT LOWYAT.net...see my trading list and my successfull trade...so, it is impossible for me to lie to my seller...

before this i didnt got any problem while using courier-either poslaju or any service post-...although i know u using BUBLE PLASTIC WARPPER...but its just FROM YR OWN MOUTH...might be...THE PHONE WAS PROBLEM BEFORE U SENDING IT TO ME!...AND U START TO OPEN NEW THREAD IN DISPUTE SECTION SAID...'HOW TO SOLVE THIS!"...haiya!....

ok...guys out there.....U WILL BE THE JUDGES BETWEEN US!

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post May 12 2007, 02:05 AM

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QUOTE(kcgboyz @ May 12 2007, 01:17 AM)
hello everyone...

i am the one who bought the e398 ....
from me from this thread

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=450634&hl=

i received the item...1stly...
i ask her for PERSONAL WARRNTY because it is POSTING...

and i know i did not know the condition of the phone..she just said that it is in good condition...

but when i get it at my house, the problem occured...

1STLY...the connection(coverage)...sometimes have and sometimes not...and sometimes shows EMERGENCY CALLS!

2NDLY...the microphone problem...problem when i was trying to call my friends,its like hear-not-hear...some like that...at the first i assumed it was connection problem...line not clear..but suddenly i found that the problem comes form the hp...

3rdly...the seller said that the condition is NORMAL WEAR AND TEAR!...but when i receive the item...it look VERY -VERY-VERY- BAD! SCRATCH HEAR AND THERE...later i will pos the PICTURE OF THE HP THAT I GET FROM HER

4th...not actually a problem..but i am the TRUSTED BUYER AND SELLER HERE....AT LOWYAT.COM...see my trading list and my successfull trade...so, it is impossible for me to lie to my seller...

before this i didnt got any problem while using courier-either poslaju or any service post-...although i know u using BUBLE PLASTIC WARPPER...but its just FROM YR OWN MOUTH...might be...THE PHONE WAS PROBLEM BEFORE U SENDING IT TO ME!...AND U START TO OPEN NEW THREAD IN DISPUTE SECTION SAID...'HOW TO SOLVE THIS!"...haiya!....

ok...guys out there.....U WILL BE THE JUDGES BETWEEN US!
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post May 12 2007, 02:09 AM

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To the seller.. i suggest you show proof that the buyer agreed to NO PERSONAL WARRANTY as the buyer here is claiming that he had asked for personal warranty.

If the seller can prove that the buyer had agreed to term of no warranty, the I believe the buyer can't make any claims at all.

I know that kcgboyz could be telling the truth, but as i said, if the seller can prove with a doubt that he had agreed to the term, then not much can be done.
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post May 12 2007, 03:02 AM

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QUOTE(zx12 @ May 12 2007, 02:09 AM)
To the seller.. i suggest you show proof that the buyer agreed to NO PERSONAL WARRANTY as the buyer here is claiming that he had asked for personal warranty.

If the seller can prove that the buyer had agreed to term of no warranty, the I believe the buyer can't make any claims at all.

I know that kcgboyz could be telling the truth, but as i said, if the seller can prove with a doubt that he had agreed to the term, then not much can be done.
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ok.. heres our conversation
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buyer:1 week personal wrnty...thnx

seller:wah.. cod only got 1 week la.. if postmen careless then i will bear the lost cost.. already very cheap le.. u ask poslaju giv u le..

buyer:hohohoo...but if only broken la...i'm sure if u packing the hp in good condition so that not just put in a big box and live it like that....

seller:u bole sja balut denagn bubblw wrapper...haiya!

buyer:dont be like that lor...sid not warrnty..haiya!
if same thing happen..haiay!
thats why i hate for POSTING...seller not rensponsible if the phone rosak...but before send already rosak...and give stupid reason that the phone rosak when in post..haiya...susah lor....IT HAPPEN TO ME ALREADY!

seller:nola.. i packed in a nice way.. packed in my perfumes box le.. cant shake also.. fit inside.. no broken le.. seller only giv ppl personal warranty to cod bcoz scare other thing happen ma.. like u said.. seller also scare giv u warranty coz u might make it broken and claim from me.. same topic 1.. but i really pack all nice for u.. dun worry..
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like i said, i said i will given 1 week personal warranty if the buyer is cod with me.. this is not cod and i already told no warranty.. if pos laju did wrong for the phone and i just selling u rm160 include postage, am i going to spend more rm50+ to repair the damage for u..? pls be understanding la..

u also dare said i sold u at rm160 with poslaju.. wat do u expect the phone to be since i already using it for more than a years already.. ya.. its really my normal wear.. i put at home sms and make as my house phone only..

i sell u rm153+ (pos laju rm6+).. u expect it to be new like 1st hand phone..?
you already know the phone outlook.. i got post the pic in the thread before sold u.. now u complaint bout this again after finish complaint bout that phone receiving.. i dont know wat u wan actually.. ist u just not happy or u wan get back ur refund ist..? this is very unresponsible buyer..

This post has been edited by ElisaChin: May 12 2007, 03:11 AM
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post May 12 2007, 02:11 PM

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U SOLD ME RM 170....NOT RM160


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post May 12 2007, 02:19 PM

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QUOTE(kcgboyz @ May 12 2007, 02:11 PM)
U SOLD ME RM 170....NOT RM160
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