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Unifi Official TM UniFi High Speed Broadband Thread V33, Enjoy Your UniFi

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post Jul 12 2018, 06:09 PM

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QUOTE(cannavaro @ Jul 12 2018, 06:04 PM)
have you done this before?
I wonder if it is as easy as.. go to tm, say I wanna cancel and sign up for a new account, keeping the same unifi phone number.
then on the spot they will activate, don't have to wait for their contractor to come and all since everything is already in place.
was there a promo for new 100Mbps subscribers? I'm only aware of the upgrades for existing non-100Mbps subscribers.  sweat.gif
I did try asking their cs on the phone to get a lower price but was told it's not possible.
I remember reading somewhere in here about going to TMPoint and ask for a lower price from the manager and it worked. Gonna try that soon.
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Well, roundabout way would have been to get 50M for RM189 promo then wait for RM10/20/50 upgrade offer. Either way would be paying less than RM3xx.


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post Jul 12 2018, 06:20 PM

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QUOTE(tohff7 @ Jul 12 2018, 06:07 PM)
There is a 'minimum cost to serve' and ensuring decent return on investment. It's wrong to assume that speed/bandwidth should scale linearly with prices. Did you see Singapore or even TIME offering much lower broadband packages for slower speed?

Like it or not, major cost items for a fixed network is FIXED. The cost to build a line to your house won't magically reduced by 50% just because you are using a lower speed.
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I think what filefresh was meaning is that if users get lower speed at lower prices, they will most likely be maxing out the bandwidth which will overall be not good for TM as their revenue will be less. Giving much much higher speeds at a price which is suitable for TM to maintain their bandwidth is better because only a small percentage of users will actually max out the bandwidth as average users will not.

Maybe most bandwidth is used by average users doing speedtest just to see and be happy about the high speed they have everyday...!

QUOTE(portgasz @ Jul 12 2018, 06:12 PM)
I think 139 for 30mbps still got. Better than 10mbps one.
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I thought this promo was over after Raya or on 30 Jun, but not sure.

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post Jul 14 2018, 12:35 PM

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QUOTE(fruitie @ Jul 14 2018, 11:33 AM)
Agreed. I'm not willing to pay for RM 189 for 100Mbps while others are paying for RM 129 for the same thing. This is unfair.

But the upload speed uploaded earlier is weird. hmm.gif
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What is unfair? Its TM way. Many paying RM189 for 100M while others paying RM199 for 50M or RM2xx for 100M or all sorts of other package prices. They should be told to standardize the package prices for all users to be fair.


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post Jul 14 2018, 12:41 PM

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QUOTE(eternity4av @ Jul 14 2018, 12:39 PM)
wow. since when got 100mbps at 189? i thought mine were cheapest at rm239 for 100m. hmm sigh.
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Most here are paying RM179-199 for 100M with the upgrades and promotions over the past 1 year or so.


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post Jul 14 2018, 02:02 PM

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QUOTE(Ben Ling @ Jul 14 2018, 12:50 PM)
btw is it possible to complain and get it at RM169 ? and I need evidence to show that some users are paying 169 for the same as mine in order to report to MCMC right ?
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Let us know if you succeed with that. I don't see why those paying RM2xx or RM3xx should not complain and try to get their prices reduced. But we should not have to do this. TM should really standardize prices especially during this time when they are going to upgrade speeds or have new packages.

Don't you all find it amazing that they can suddenly offer 10X speeds? Its not like they suddenly found extra capacity? Why didn't users get just 2X speeds a year or two ago? I think most users would have been happy if every year there was small speed increases.

Even the RM79 basic plan with 60GB. No doubt this will be useful for light users. My guess is that they know average users will use more than 60GB. So they won't get this package. Really reminds me of the Streamyx RM38 1M package with 1GB quota.

Unfortunately we dont have statistics. Why not the RM79 have 90GB or even 120GB quota? Because then it may be suitable for many more average users. Many may downgrade to this package then. They don't want that.

Or the RM79 should have an option to add RM20 for extra 30-60GB data and maintain speed. Or why not also have a second basic package at RM99 with more quota. would be affordable for many more average users.

If they really focus on how to help users rather than maintaining price, there would be many ways to do so.

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post Jul 14 2018, 02:44 PM

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QUOTE(biloxee @ Jul 14 2018, 02:27 PM)
But we don't know what happens after the 60Gb quota is reached. Will TM throttle the speed from 30Mbps to 10Mbps?
At 10Mbps, the connection would be okay and useable for the light users, no?

Email, Web Surfing, Facebook, Instagram, some Youtube at 10 Mbps should not be a problem. Assuming it is 10Mbps of course...
Not for me. That router's specs is identical to the free TP-Link C1200 TM gives away.
If I were to upgrade, I'd get an AC1900 class router that does 1300 Mbps on 5Ghz at the very least...
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I think someone said 1Mbps in an earlier post. Not sure where that info came from.

Do you really think it would be at 10M? That would mean you can pretty much use the connection for average usage as you mention. I don't think TM will allow that. The whole idea of this sort of limit is to make sure the majority of the people won't find it of much use in the long run. Why do you think last time mobile or other similar connections were throttled to 64K or 128K? Because it would be of not much use.

Also, there are Streamyx users who were paying RM88/89 for 4M/8M who have got upgrade to 10M Unifi Lite. But not sure whether copper or fibre. Either way, they still pay the same RM88/89, not the usual RM129. So, why is it that TM can give some users 10M for RM88/89 with no quota, but the new basic package supposedly for B40 users is at RM79 30M with 60GB quota?

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post Jul 14 2018, 04:16 PM

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QUOTE(biloxee @ Jul 14 2018, 03:29 PM)
I don't know for sure if it would be throttled to 10Mbps. Anyway, this basic 30Mbps package is for the poorer folks so not everyone will qualify.
If kids from less fortunate families can still utilize the internet in a meaningful way even after the 60Gb quota has been used, well good for them.

I mean, and I don't mean to generalize but better for them to be playing computer games than roaming the streets on modified bicycles at night?
I think it is a government backed initiative to assist the less privileged with decent broadband speeds.
I think the current Pakatan government views internet access as a basic human right. So if one is less privileged, it doesn't mean one has to put up with "dirty/cloudy" water or terribly slow internet access.
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I repeat what I posted many pages ago. If the new basic package is for B40, why should they be subject to quota? Their children can also learn a lot from the internet which may use more than 60GB. Also, I too don't mean to generalize, but the lower bracket of B40 category would probably be in areas that are not covered by Unifi anyway, so how is a new basic package going to help them?

This B40 category is too wide range to use for such purpose. Less than RM4500. Maybe I see this wrong, but if you earning RM4000 maybe you are in Unifi area already and can afford it. But if you're earning RM1000, I don't think you are in a Unifi area?

To me this is not about the government or B40. This is about whether TM is really being sincere with the new basic package. Give us some stats on how many B40 in what range of salary it will help.

I think most users don't see the big picture. Got 10X speed upgrade all happy because we tend to think of ourself only.

As I said, why not have 10M with no quota for RM79. Won't that help those people? That can be achieved both with existing copper and fibre. All this while, the non-Unifi areas, and again in general, maybe a lot of those areas are where B40 are located, even if there is Streamyx, it is 1M or 2M. And the price has been RM110-120? How has that been helpful? Those prices should have been way lower from a few years ago to help all those people.

How many of us actually ever expected 10X? We thought 2X already was good. I know there are heavy users who want 800M or 1G or 10G. But in general, I think even if it was just 100-500M speeds, most would have been happy for now at least. If TM can suddenly afford to give 300-800M, they should have had enough capacity and why not give some of that to the basic package instead of restricting with quota?


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post Jul 14 2018, 05:10 PM

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QUOTE(biloxee @ Jul 14 2018, 05:02 PM)
PPR residences are covered by Unifi, no? PDRM/Bomba barracks? Single child families renting a room in home coevered by Unifi?

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I am not sure of the coverage for such. If it is, then that's good for them


QUOTE(wilson1stop @ Jul 14 2018, 05:07 PM)
FYI, 60GB quota was written inside every UNIFIers agreements since N years ago.
it's was subject to TM decisions, 60GB is more than enough for entry levels.
It's just RM79 after all...
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Yes, it was 60/90/120GB for the VIP 5/10/20 when it first came out.

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post Jul 15 2018, 11:01 AM

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QUOTE(wilson1stop @ Jul 15 2018, 02:12 AM)
Seem No OR to me, but it's mandatory...
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I think. IC is mandatory. One document as proof is mandatory. Document can be either one of the three stated.


QUOTE(Xefron @ Jul 15 2018, 08:04 AM)
They will use the same name only different speed

Basic 10
Lite 100
Adv 300
Adv Plus 500
Pro 800
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Typo... Should be Basic 30.


QUOTE(stinky @ Jul 15 2018, 10:17 AM)
Im currently on 50mbs, no std free calls, ruby at 189.
Wrote to tm today  to see if they can adjust price.
If not I’m gonna apply new account, rm139, 30mbs, Ruby, free calls, 2yr contract. At least I save 1.2k over 2 years
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The RM139 does not have free calls right?

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post Jul 15 2018, 11:22 AM

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QUOTE(wilson1stop @ Jul 15 2018, 11:07 AM)
Hmmm, if BR1M not important, why TM seperated it with PRESENT keywords? TM Staffs will misunderstood and request clients to present in order to apply that plan.

FYI, RM139 is NOT open for public, but a special offers (calls) to those existing to upgrade to 30Mbps.
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The way I see it, the OR is for either 3 supporting document. Salary slip OR self-employed proof OR BR1M letter. This covers all categories, eg if you are unemployed or retired, you have no salary slip or employment proof but maybe got BR1M proof.

Yes, I know the RM139 is not advertised on their website, but still I thought that package had no free voice calls even if agents call.

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post Jul 25 2018, 05:52 PM

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QUOTE(Mazda9 @ Jul 25 2018, 05:27 PM)
Yes. I had solid evidence that TM keep extending my contract despite me never authorise them and neither I signed any acceptance form.

Finally they pusing the story saying TM system glitch issue and etc etc and all my correspondence and reply was copied to mcmc. Finally they issue me a letter stating no penalty or charges if I modify or terminate my account as my account has been changed to contract free as a good will gesture by TM in acknowledging their mistake.
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Can you share about how they extended your contract without permission? Was it from the same package for years? Though users don't sign a form, its normally in the T&C when there is an upgrade offer or at least during the call when the upgrade is done.

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post Jul 25 2018, 06:16 PM

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QUOTE(Mazda9 @ Jul 25 2018, 06:02 PM)
I got YRE plan last Dec via MCMC as I was initially paying RM249 for 100 mbps and when I escalate to MCMC TM quickly call me and offer me YRE at rm189 in January and they clearly told me that my contract will not be extended which is due next jan 2019 and at the same time, Tm will give me warranty extension for my equipments as part of YRE upgrade for 1 year.

In June 2018, last month my hypp tv box kaput and my dect phone also kaput. I request for replacement as both equipments was faulty. Spoke to someone from
CMT dept and they confirmed my equipments will be replaced at no cost. They came and replace the equipments at no cost and suddenly I was bill rm350 for hardware change and my contract got extended to January 2021.

I was bloody mad and furious as I made several calls to several dept inquiring about all this and none of them could assist me to solve my case and even Tm point said they can’t do anything. That’s where I got legal involved and mcmc and provided all this evidences...
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If they had already told you that your contract would not be extended and will get hardware replacement, then I guess its a clear cut case. This sounds like the usual different people from different departments don't know what each other is doing. I think one main problem is that they seem to have so many different variations in packages and prices and contracts etc etc that there is no standards to follow. Even users here have said some get free upgrade or RM10 extra upgrade with no contract extension, but some get it extended. Good for you for getting your issue resolved.

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post Jul 25 2018, 06:29 PM

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QUOTE(Mazda9 @ Jul 25 2018, 06:20 PM)
True and one more thing, whatever is promised doesn’t seems to be documented in their systems and that’s why the agents are struggling as your records are not kept up to date and when issues like this occur, all of them starting rolling the ball from one dept to another. Luckily I have all their names, dept name, time and date of call for my records as it’s really helpful...
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Yes, everyone should do the same. I too get the name of the person when I call them. And make short notes of the phone call. Or one can just record the call these days - not quite sure what is the legality on that though.

We often blame the 100 customer service and agents who call. Sometimes they really don't know their stuff. But sometimes I think its because they are not told all the info. Even agents calling for example for new application promo such as RM139, some will tell you its back to RM179 after 2 years, but some will say back to RM199.. Some even worse, will not say anything about it to make it look like a good deal. Until you ask about it, then they tell you.

I think we get more info from this forum when everyone shares their own experiences.

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post Jul 25 2018, 11:32 PM

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QUOTE(miloaisdino @ Jul 25 2018, 08:18 PM)
Actually if u look at tm tnc properly, sharing connection with yr neighbour is NOT a violation as they stated:
The customer shall not resell or sublet the Service to any third parties without prior written consent from TM;
So..
1) cannot resell connection -- u only agreed to split the cost and not make profit out of it right?
2) cannot sublet connection -- sublet means to lease part of or whole of a property by a tenant to a subtenant, so if u are Sharing the internet and not exactly splitting the bandwidth by a certain proportion, its not subletting, and u also cannot lease such property if u were splitting the cost anyway..

An example of a violation would be:
1) Setting up a mini isp to resell internet access to neighbours for a profit
2) Letting yur neighbour to borrow your address to subscribe his unifi
3) Charging tenants of your apartment (if you are the landlord) a fixed monthly fee decided by you for internet without prior agreement of cost splitting (ie the monthly rate was decided by you irrespective of unifi package price)
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I am not sure which is the latest T&C from them as it may have changed. But apart from what you quoted above, there is a clause that said that you cannot share the service with others. Resell and sublet is mentioned, but just "share" alone is also there.

QUOTE(Mazda9 @ Jul 25 2018, 11:03 PM)
Same as mine perpetual
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The difference is you can change your perpetual package. Others with perpetual discount may lose the discount if the package is modified.

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post Jul 26 2018, 11:05 AM

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QUOTE(ZhangFei @ Jul 26 2018, 10:03 AM)
One of my friend get upgraded for free from Streamyx to Unifi 30mbps, free call and maintain RM130 per month.
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Does your friend know if he will also be entitled to a further 10X upgrade later?

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post Jul 26 2018, 12:08 PM

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QUOTE(cheepet @ Jul 26 2018, 11:10 AM)
I hope I will get the free upgrade too... Currently 1Mbps at RM110 with free call.
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I am guessing that if you are Streamyx in a Unifi area and got ports, you will be upgraded to the package closest to your current price. So maybe Streamyx RM110/120 will get RM129 10M but price remain as current. Maybe Streamyx RM130/140 gets the 30M package.


QUOTE(Ckmwpy0370 @ Jul 26 2018, 11:10 AM)
same to me from Streaymx to Unifi 30Mbps then 50Mbps few months back
Now waiting for 10x promotion biggrin.gif
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But few months ago you must have switch package by yourself. Nothing to do with the Streamyx free upgrade now.

QUOTE(miloaisdino @ Jul 26 2018, 11:25 AM)
6.  not  share  the  Service  with  any  person  including  a  company  or  corporation  without  the  prior  written  approval  of  TM  and shall use  the  Service  only  for  the  purpose for  which  it  is  subscribed
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I wonder whether it includes "temporarily allow/lend my neighbour to use my connection"
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Yes, that's the clause I was referring to in my earlier reply to you.

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post Jul 26 2018, 03:12 PM

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QUOTE(stormaker @ Jul 26 2018, 03:05 PM)
I'm out of luck then, currently using 8MB Streamyx.  sad.gif
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Maybe you should wait till 15 Aug to see if you get any free upgrade. Since Unifi coming to your area soon, you may be entitled with a bit of delay.

I think the agents are calling Streamyx customers now to get them to subscribe to Unifi packages even before the users know whether they are eligible for any free upgrade.

RM199 50M is not the only package anyway. You have lower 30M and 10M ones too. I thought there was still a RM139 30M promo going on, but not quite sure.

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post Jul 26 2018, 05:25 PM

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QUOTE(wilson1stop @ Jul 26 2018, 05:04 PM)
Seriously, TM must give people options to choose instead standardization of 10x speed upgrades.

Some was preferred lower price, some wanna TV pack or unlimited mobile, some wanna others.

At least TM need do market survey from public and analysis what's options for difference target users since many areas was technical limited and Unifi ports limited.
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I think their main aim is to maintain the price per user around RM179-199. So they do things around that. Nothing to do with what users wants or needds or market survey etc.

It would have been much better if they had just announced that there will be price and speed adjustments. Users could login to the client portal where you would have choices such as:
1. Maintain current package at current price
2. Upgrade speed by X times at current price
3. Reduce price by X % at current speed

Since client portal is already for verified users, they didn't need to do special site to check eligibility or send out emails etc and make users wait and not know the status.

This would have been a good oppurtunity to standardize packages and prices. Those who need more speed would get it. Those who want to pay less would get it.

This 10X speed upgrade sounds really good. I think in time most users will realise that they do not need that high speed. Except those really heavy users. I think it would have been better to get maybe a 2X - 5X speed increas at a reduced price instead. That would have been sufficient for majority of users and saved all some money too.

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post Jul 26 2018, 05:38 PM

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QUOTE(stormaker @ Jul 26 2018, 05:21 PM)
My friend staying not far from me, in Unifi area are not entitle for Streamyx to Unifi upgrade, so I'm not hoping i'm entitle too. Both of us checked on the Unifi website before it was taken down, and both not eligible. He went a step further by going to TMpoint and got the same answer.

I'm looking forward for 50M because i'm been looking forward to subscribe Netflix for 4K movie streaming since year 2015  sad.gif

I know only 25M is needed for 4K movie streaming but I need to take into account that there're other devices consuming the bandwidth too.
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This is the problem. All different info. What is the eligibility criteria? Call 100 and they tell you they don't know and cannot check. You and your friend checked online and it said no. But this morning someone posted that Streamyx was upgraded to Unfi 30M package.

Note that getting a new Unifi plan should entitle you to 10X free upgrade. So even if you get 10M or 30M, yu will eventually get 100M or 300M. Similarly 50M should get you 500M.

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post Jul 27 2018, 01:18 AM

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QUOTE(totally_skint @ Jul 27 2018, 12:18 AM)
I wonder if they will allow the RM100 for 8Mbps Streamyx in Unifi covered area and whether that is still eligible for Turbo upgrade?
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I think the new RM90/RM100 4M/8M only for new users and and based on some selection or areas or selected agents or roadshow/promo time. Somehow I don't think it will be offered in Unifi area since they are trying to move Streamyx users to Unifi anyway so pointless to offer there.


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