How do you define better buy when gen on gen it did not match much less beat out 4080?

With 90% marketshare, there really isnt any pressure from the competition. Like theres no fight for 5070TI & 5080. Still prices across the board are coming down anyhow and that add pressure to AMD to cut their prices right after launch or else continue to see declining sales. Youtubers and reviewers are hyping them Radeons but marketshare will be the ultimate judge if they had been successful or not and so far the verdict is damning.

Need to pull back a bit undervolt, after that try furmark for 15-30 mins. See if it crashes or not. If not extend to 1 hr.

Cant blame him. Market sux when theres no competition. People want his RTX to have huge gen uplift but when others also has disappointing gen uplift who is he competing against? Jensens previous gen family of GPUS???

Even prediscount its still a very good price dy since 5060 is starting at RM 1500. Only problem is its not suitable for older systems thats on Gen3, no Rebar and with CPU overhead.

Its what the haters of 8GB cards ie, GN & HUB, have said, if yours is an older system better stick with Nvidia as even its VRAM limitation is the only problem it has which only affects image quality, turn the texture down and your alrite. Arc on older system is a mess of performance drop off. Drivers also problematic.

Anything that only has PCIE Gen3 for GPU, no Rebar backporting support, and Core 8th gen and below

I dont see the issue here. 90960XT core is too weak to make use of that VRAM size, comparison shown your more likely to run out of GPU horsepower earlier than hitting VRAM limit unless you do stupid things like running ultra max settings in 4K.

Whether good or bad, it boils down to pricing level affordability, relative performance, & feature sets that you want (Nvidia still has far better encoding/decoding, and streaming support).

If your budget is a hard RM 1.5k then no need talk about a RM 1.6k card unless can drop it down to 1.5k.

No need to argue and justify to me, go argue with Steve (GN) and Steve (HUB). As I said, its what they reco in their reviews. Intel can do so much on driver & compatibility side but mandatory Rebar support is simply a dealbreaker for older systems that doesnt have it.

Look at the your game settings, its doubtful you were running ultra maxed out playing at 4K. Its after I played thru HaloI and SM2 which I didnt find those limitation issues on my 8GB 3060TI that I drove deeper into GN & HUB/TS gameplay results and what triggers it, that I discovered its really about confirmation bias.

GN & HUB/TS setup their test specifically to fail 8GB cards using setups that no regular 5060(nonTI) or 9060(8GB) would/should expect to play without reasonable compromises. These are purely 1080P cards yet they fail at 1440P and 4K with maxed out settings and so were proclaimed to be failures. Doesnt make sense does it?

Is 8GB limit real? I believe so if game developers are lazy and merely relying on GPU brute force to play nicely, but look at how well Clair Obscur fairs even with 8GB cards when its done properly.

Thus the onus for this blame isnt onto Nvidia or AMD for making 8GB cards but should go to lazy developers coming out with half done games that often needs Day 1 patches. Some have gone back to retesting Cyber2077 and found it now playable on lower end cards than it did not before. Game optimisation plays a lot here. You can blame Nvidia/AMD for their cartel-like high prices of course but not the cards itself.

I do think a limit will be reached eventually but many more years than doomsayers predicts (that means today) if all games were made to the quality of CO, whereby RT should not take such big hits anymore. For now just ignore all the 8GB doomsayers and just play at whatever your comfortable with, laptops are typically lesser specs anyhow so your more likely to lower graphical settings to play nicely thus image quality wont be a dealbreaker for you (I think so).

As for new buyers, it depends if you can stump up to pay more for a 16GB card. But if you cant afford to jump that gap, no need to be made to feel like your a poor beggar unworthy to game, just buy whatever you can afford as new GPU releases out is comfortably playable at reasonable level (1080P) if your willing to tweak game settings whether you want image quality or FPS.

This post has been edited by babylon52281: Jun 20 2025, 10:26 AM

If fake frame keeps doubling every generation by the time DLSS7 comes it will be 32 fakes for every 1 real frame or in other words you will be 'watching' your gaming instead of actually playing since AI bot will play for you (30 FFPS- Fake Frames Per Second).

2022. LOL its about the same price for a 3060 12GB back in 2022 when I was building my rig, so to those who bought 3060s back then should rejoice your GPU did not depreciate in pricing at all!

This post has been edited by babylon52281: Jul 5 2025, 09:07 AM

3070 TDP 220W
5070 TDP 250W

But you have a good quality PSU so will be just fine.

No no no! Dont do that! EPS wire is for the CPU, its usually the 8pin (& +4/8 more pin sometimes) at the top left of the mobo.

Lucky you most 5070 are using 12VHPWR/12V 2x6 connectors so its no way you can get it wrong. if yours comes with an adapter (and your PSU doesnt have 12VHPWR wire natively) you should connect that adapter to the PCIE 8pin wire (the 6+2 in your image).

EPS and PCIE may look similar but their keyed differently however if you forced either into the wrong socket, you will burn out either the GPU or mobo. You got lucky you dodge this bullet.

This post has been edited by babylon52281: Jul 8 2025, 09:52 PM

RTX 5050 is out and this is at the least one card that doesnt justify the call to add moar VRAMS, as said by TPU Wiz: "Throughout most of my testing it appeared to me that the biggest bottleneck wasn't the VRAM, but the GPU horsepower...

Intel Arc B580 12 GB, to test whether its added VRAM offers a big advantage in the fight against the RTX 5050. In every single game, except for Indiana Jones the VRAM made no tangible difference."

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/gigabyte...ming-oc/42.html

The only problem with 5050 is its starting price which the overall 50series stack is way overpriced MSRP however its still the devil that smells the sweetest, having plentiful availability now (vs Intel ARC) and lower street price to MSRP gap (vs Radeon 9000series). The only positive lining with Nvidia cards is they tend to drop prices slightly below MSRP once stabilised. Some forumers have gotten 5070 at below local MSRP.

As for 5050 its not a very good card, being still a margin slower than my 3060TI imagine that, but lets hope Nvidia dont cripple it further thru reducing VRAM to 6GB (as with 3050 Version 2). Yikes!

This post has been edited by babylon52281: Jul 11 2025, 10:21 AM

Erm I think xx50 has not been slot or SFF friendly since 1050TI days lor. It was a budget card but I dont think was specifically meant for it, tho sure there will be AIBs that will come out with low profile/ single fan Solo/ low TDP slot powered, heck maybe even a passive cooled only, versions but by large the reference design is a standard GPU config as these should be MSRP cards only.

Forget the OC version or blinged overspec cooler ones with higher than MSRP prices makes buying 5060 a better deal.

And yes as I said, pricing is sux but you have to pay Nvidia tax to use Nvidia features. It still falls back that the others have better value proposition if you can find them at equivalent prices.

Popping in objects from distance I think its game related, I see this in Halo and yet its not overload my 8GB VRAM, but then I didnt see this in SM2 which again didnt overload VRAM (uses <6GB) so I believe its how the game is made.

Then again apart SM2 I havent played recent titles as I worked thru my backlog; Doom E, rebooted CODs MW1, MW2, Vanguard, BO1, BO2, BO3, so maybe once I hit any today AAA release (Doom DA) maybe my opinion might change or the game will have been optimised for 8GB VRAM, who knows, but so far Im enjoying my games running at NATIVE RESO W/O DLSS yo.

I heard that after sapuing all the 4090s and 5090s they could buy overseas, their now targeting to sapu 5080s and 4080Super

Basically its now at local MSRP. But prices might jack up again if China starts to target 5080s too.

China 'tourists' (on shopping spree). Last week I kinda saw one fella with 2 big bags of Switch 2s I think easily 20 units per bag.

Brand new 5090 selling for RM 11+k do you think used 4090 can sell for nearly as much?