Thats the defeatist attitude which allows Nvidia & AMD to shove their overprices every gen down our throats. In a free market, competition will naturally force prices to come down and indeed global DDR5 prices are largely dropping as everyday theres a better/cheaper kit that comes out. DDR5 6000 maybe the sweetspot for AM5 but for Intel, it likes much higher RAM speed thus why we have CUDIMM tech and like it or not, Intel still sells more PC than AMD.

Here due to distros all cartel pakat pakat to fix prices and lately scalping GPU pricing too, is something we must sound out and not support.

Sure theres the China express option if you dont care warranty but then these local jokers shouldnt be complaining about losing business to online and forcing Govt to impose online tax just so they can justify their overprices and tongkat attitude. There are local online options which often have bang for buck deals but having to be handicapped by these local jokers.

We shouldnt normalise ourselves to artificial inflation, its why i told others dont buy overpriced GPU which also need to bundle. Dont let them take advantage and wait for hardware prices to normalise and indeed its getting nearly there now if only people have patience to wait.

Theres no such thing as unproductive PSA to consumers. But theres such things as unproductive whiteknighting to greedy unscrupulous businesses.

Im thinking it would be easier to use your mobo ARGB software to run the lighting on the GPU instead of another RGB software(Firestorm).

Your the first person I know who is happy to pay more for less. I guess money is nothing to some people.
To others that are not that loaded, will feel it in the wallet.

Will it change anything? Perhaps, perhaps not. But if lesser folks are shoving cash into the distro scalping machine, it will be sooner than later we will see saner prices and this is happening now. Radeon prices are still smoking weed but thats on AMD Msia.

This post has been edited by babylon52281: May 16 2025, 05:26 PM

And if you read my comments properly, just because you can and have the means to stomach bad pricing doesnt mean others should do the same. If people didnt make noise about 4070TI being the '4080' (12GB) Nvidia would have sold us and underspec '4080'.

Thats a good price, about the same as 5060TI 16GB launched MSRP for OC models. It still beat the pants of 5060TI 16GB despite its smaller VRAM so its still a very competent card.

Where you get from?

Prices are coming back to sane levels and that 5060TI is at Nvidia MSRP. This is what activism does when people are fedup with high prices, dont support scalpy prices and just wait. Some people just want to be waterfishes.

Its in fact below Nvidia local MSRP



Virtue of being patient and not support scalpers.

Kinda tired about all these bashing on 8GB cards being utterly unplayable. Like really?

Here is HUB trying their hardest to fail the card


If your gonna fail a student, the student will fail no matter what.

But if you give a fair shot, here is SM2 running on my own 8GB 3060TI with native 1080P at High


Did I lose any visual fidelity? Nope. Also no stutters or weird rendering glitch. Cant seem to get an FPS counter to show but I dont feel lag

Naw. Our market is impervious to reviews or user feedback. Ie Radeons have been pisspoor perf vs Geforces which is why globally each is priced one tier below equivalent Nvidias but here their the same tier pricing making Radeons a poor value choice moreso when inc its dismal RT perf, which is why they only have <10% local marketshare.

The 9000series closes the perf gap but still is priced way too high vs Geforce MSRP.

Here is my settings. No concessions made with no loss of visual effects vs Youtube gameplay videos.


While 8GB is a limiting factor if want to turn on all features, its mostly the GPU chip that will be the limiting factor of perf/ FPS rather than VRAM. You can give a 3050 24GB VRAM and it will still perform pisspoor at 4K.

And while i agree 8GB 5060TI price is awful, it isnt unplayable mess that reviewers are trying to pull.

Did you? 5000 series are coming down fast to saner levels. With luck a 5070 can be had below MSRP. Meanwhile AMD Msia still smoking weed when pricing their Radeons here. Based on global MSRP it shouldnt be more than RM 3300 but here your looking at 3900 which is same price as 5070TI with poorer value.

This post has been edited by babylon52281: May 18 2025, 10:23 PM

It was 2 years ago when the doom & gloom of 8GB cards was foretold its ending. Im still waiting for it to happen 2 years later, and Im not holding my breath for another 2 years

The prices you quoted below is the local MSRP 9070XT pricing which is still above global prices and yet try to find it, good luck as its all sold out. Only those 3900 models are still hanging around and if reports are to believed, AMD AIB has stop producing/selling MSRP models so buyers will have to stomach these overpriced cards unless AMD does their famous steep price cuts months later... again!

5070TI local MSRP is RM 3900. Still a bit too high unless its OC tier models so wait a bit more for prices to drop further. I see Geforces are dropping fast.

Can post link for benefit of forumers interested?

Damn good price, below MSRP somemore. But iinm Windforce series has pisspoor cooler that will near thermal throttle the GPU and crazy loud fans... or was that Eagle version?

Many of these lowyat price listings are very deceptive, often the quoted CPU and/or mobo prices are for bundling together (in very small print), and if you ask over the counter, individual price will be different. Its not a recent scalper thing but its been the practice for a long time i seen, still not good if the prices for each differs a lot.

Solid, Shadow, Ventus, Prime, GamePro are MSRP baseline models. What I meant OC models are the Amp, the Trio, TUF, Gamerock models which arent the high spec but one tier above MSRP model. Depending on the price gap between them, some of these higher tier models might worth it due to its better cooler others its way to highs. It depends.

Solid is the MSRP model, Solid Core is meant for Geforce SFF compliant card so even more punier but will command higher price cuz it will have SFF/ITX tax. Anything above MSRP is really up to each AIB to justify their higher prices. A bigger/better cooler will give lower temps which can to push boost clocks further up thats why got people for higher tier models.

This post has been edited by babylon52281: May 20 2025, 10:19 PM

As usual lar these prebuilds will have hidden inferior specs. 750W just ngam enuff for 5070Ti if only it was Gold or ATX3.x rated unit but its likely a C tier which wont be enuff to support both high powered CPU & GPU together.
Also it has small 1TB m2 SSD, and likely its the DRAMless trash GM7 since its exact model is not stated.

Overall its not too bad a system if can change these above to something better.

Another bait & switch prebuild.

Mobo is Asus AYW model which looks deceptive as the VRM heatsink is just a small piece and the entire shroud which is normally metal, is actually plastic. So its more for looks rather than real function as VRM heatsink.

Also the SSD is Legend 860 which is yet another DRAMless trash which its 6000MB/S speed cannot even reach max Gen4 limit.