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post Apr 26 2025, 03:00 PM

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QUOTE(chocobo7779 @ Apr 26 2025, 09:13 AM)
That alone is already a big upgrade in its own icon_idea.gif
No, it's because of the severely nerfed memory bandwidth and the GPU die (it's effectively a 4050), which hurts modern games icon_idea.gif
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Yes and no. If it gets only 40-60 FPS regardless of which VRAM size version, it doesnt matter how smooth the frames are it still perform dogshit vs say 4070 even with lesser VRAM buffer.
Look at the perf of GPU core not the VRAM.

Imho if the price gap between 5060TI 16GB vs 5070 isnt that big its better to pay more for the higher tier but since MSRP is ady nearly RM 1k difference, there is still compelling reason to get 5060TI 16GB
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post Apr 26 2025, 10:17 PM

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QUOTE(gacktleong @ Apr 26 2025, 08:45 PM)
Even 5060 ti with 16gb vram, its not even close to a 5070

Having high vram is useless if the GPU chip itself isn’t powerful enough to take advantage of it.

People chase big VRAM numbers because they sound safe, even if the real performance depends on more stuff like memory speed, core power, etc
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I gave up arguing with these people. Let them get hoodwinked into paying more to Jensen fund.
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post Apr 28 2025, 09:15 AM

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QUOTE(sleepwalker @ Apr 28 2025, 06:28 AM)
I have used my LG48 C1 as my primary monitor for over 20000 hours at max OLED brightness. Yes I do maintain it by moving all desktop icons to the secondary monitor and auto hide the taskbar. Other than that it does not show any signs of burn in with the regular pixel cleaning functions that comes with it. With 5 years extended warranty bought in 2021 it should still be ok until at least next year (you know the deal, KO right after warranty expires) but getting over 20000 hours from it is already a good ROI.
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OLED prices still hasnt fallen down to budget affordable level yet. So imho ROI should be at least 5 years but realistically be 7-8 years for those RM 4- 5k.

From usage reviews, its still an imperfect tech, as regular daily use (ie 8hrs office work) ady can induce burn-in within simulated 2-3 years.
https://www.techspot.com/article/2958-oled-burn-in-test/

Im guessing it would be worse if its WFH monitor where its used for work & play meaning 12hrs or more use.



Mind you this isnt unrealistic R-Tings type 24/7 continuous on tests.

OLED tech is very good for certain use like phone screens where no one stares at it 8hrs a day plus mainly with dynamic content use.
For monitor use, i dont think it will be something that you can keep using without significant degradation down the many years vs IPS (this is separate from monitors longevity/lifespan where many other factors related).

Its okay if one has invested into the ecosystem and would change monitor every 5 years or less. Its a good stepping stone to upgrade to while waiting for mini/micro LED screens to be mass marketed.

Do I find myself upgrading to OLED eventually? I do think so if this tech drops down to current affordable IPS level prices.
But I would also see myself upgrade from that sooner than later.

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post Apr 28 2025, 12:40 PM

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QUOTE(kmarc @ Apr 28 2025, 10:41 AM)
Zotac gaming RTX 5070 Ti solid core OC. Bought it for 4.5k as didn't want to wait any longer for price to drop. Waited 2 months I think considered very good already....  biggrin.gif
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Going higher up the tier I can see a crazy widening price gap per tier.

5060TI 16GB to 5070 is ~RM900
5070 to 5070TI is ~RM 1000
5070TI to 5080 is ~RM 1000

Were not even talking about few hundred RM but now is 4 figures which is the cost of whole GPU back then.
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post Apr 28 2025, 09:09 PM

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QUOTE(SehatiSejiwa @ Apr 28 2025, 05:33 PM)
Is Zotac RMA good in Malaysia? I see tons of people complaining about North America RMA. Also, you bought at physical store or online? Cause the later show no stock. I only see MSI PCImage store from Shopee but it's Inspire at 4300. That card wont let you change power limit and change voltage.
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No GPU, whether its AMD or Nvidia or Intel, allows you to move up power limits except those higher tier OC variants will have higher limit out from factory vs Nvidia spec. Theres no software change here, the only way to up power limit over firmware lock is by shunt modding.

IINM certain brands have XOC version ie Galax HOF which removes this limitation but those are special cards.
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post May 7 2025, 08:22 AM

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QUOTE(TristanX @ May 6 2025, 07:39 PM)
Another day of 8GB thumping!

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B580? Wait until pair with older CPU, then see again if either driver overhead or VRAM limit hits first. People buy 8GB version bcoz they got no extra money for 16GB. Doesnt make it a bad choice if you know how to play within its demands.
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post May 7 2025, 09:36 AM

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QUOTE(TristanX @ May 7 2025, 08:26 AM)
Wait. You wanna see people buying a new 8GB trash for almost RM2k on 2025 just to reduce settings?
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Maybe atas people cant tell, but these days RM 2k is not a lot of money. Not just NVIDIA overcharging but so is AMD & Intel for what is basically low end products.

If we had a healthy used market where 2nd hand GPU can get cheap I would say go for previous gen stuff. But I saw 3060TI selling for RM 1100 which is just few hundred less than I bought new 2.5 years ago which is insanely high for used items!

There is no wins here for Msian buyers, unless your can afford for atas specs and changing GPU every gen.
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post May 7 2025, 12:16 PM

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QUOTE(TristanX @ May 7 2025, 10:08 AM)
Just get 16GB version. Or look for 7700 or 7800 XT when sale is on.
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Radeon GPUS in Msia are overpriced vs global MSRP unless on good sale but that which predicates the series will be remove soon like 7800XT so its a very situational thing as the next gen wont come in another 2 years.

Radeon 7000series also has abysmal RT perf vs Geforces with similar price points.
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post May 7 2025, 02:27 PM

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QUOTE(TristanX @ May 7 2025, 12:35 PM)
Like I said, when it is on sale.

RT performance?

LOL 128-bit! With crappy VRAM choking it.
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Generational changeover firesales dont come every month or even every year. Dont expect 7800XT sales to carry on until next year.
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QUOTE(JohnLai @ May 7 2025, 08:48 PM)
Received Zotac RTX 5090 AMP Infinity today.
Just installed it, up and running.
Done with extended warranty registration.

Though.......why is the damn 12VHPWR so warm during GPU-Z stress test?
I am using FSP Hydro G PRO ATX3.0(PCIe5.0) 1000W native 12VHPWR cable.
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Why? Bcoz your drawing the max power 600W on that single connection. Thats the power of single PSU for a low end system so imagine all that power onto the tiny cable.
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post May 8 2025, 09:29 AM

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QUOTE(adamtayy @ May 8 2025, 04:36 AM)
so, you need this 1
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Its not the size capacity of the PSU. If you followed the issue, its about the power draw coming to the 12VHPWR cable.
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QUOTE(pot @ May 8 2025, 10:09 PM)
Hi any recommendation PSU model 1000w with native 12V-2x6 cable atx3.1 pcie5.1 pair with RTX 5070 ti 16GB? thank you.
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FSP Hydro whatever that is 1000W ATX3.0/3.1 rated. Montech Century 1000W is CWT platform. 1stPlayer NGDP 1000W is Cybernetic certified and has its own test report.
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post May 9 2025, 02:44 PM

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QUOTE(TristanX @ May 9 2025, 01:12 PM)
Another DOA product is coming. RTX 5060 8GB. Just look at 5060 Ti 8GB reviews from hardware unboxed and techpowerup. Not enough VRAM for a new card is a big problem.
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Unlike TI variant, nonTI 60family is more mainstream and the volume seller (unless Nvidia comes out 5050), so for casual gaming it will still be fine. Those like Dota2, Fortnite, Apex Legends, CS2 arent VRAM hogs like bloated AAA titles these reviewers love to abuse.

Lower prices sells and despite the bashing, now 4060 is topping Steam charts and likely the 5060 will top that too.

Give credit to buyers they arent so stupid, if they can get 5070TI 16GB at the same price of course they would. People just cannot afford overpriced hardware anymore. They just buy whatever in their price range, so they shouldnt be made to feel ashamed they could not afford something 'worthy of gaming'.
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QUOTE(TristanX @ May 9 2025, 03:17 PM)
That shows how many people with no clue got caught. Brand loyalty and amount of waterfish is sad.

Found MSI RTX 3060 12GB Ventus 2X at RM1.2k recently. Just wait for sale and stop buying rubbish.
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Err no. No amount of VRAM can bridge this gap

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QUOTE(TristanX @ May 9 2025, 04:35 PM)
Yeah, its obviously a 5060 ti
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And RM 1.2k for a 3060 is ridiculous, its the same price I seen 2.5 years ago when I built my rig. So basically prices for low end stagnated just beyond affordability for old tech.
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QUOTE(PJng @ May 9 2025, 04:45 PM)
What, 1.2k
I buy colorful 3060 at 2023 at price RM1,208
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Manli 2022 then was about RM 1.2k+-, Colorful was RM 1.3k, today RM 1.2k is basically no drop in pricing. Very sad for budget gamers
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QUOTE(TristanX @ May 9 2025, 04:48 PM)
Pretty much everything went up. Budget is an afterthought for them.... Just buy the best for the price instead of just the brand.

Nvidia trying to prevent day 1 review for RTX 5060. Reviewers complaining.
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Which is why I really dont like when reviewers whack these cards like calling it ewaste. Go whack the brand, not the cards.

Rather than picking points where they fail badly why not show how to make it work, what settings should be run for comfy gaming. Its easy whack such low performing GPU when their able to afford 5070s & 5080s but nobody try understand no matter how bad, the 5060s is what most casual gamers will able to afford.

And then they shock Pikachu when seeing the much hated 4060 going up & up Steam charts pulak. Expect their same shock again when 5060 starts to go up too. LOL
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QUOTE(chocobo7779 @ May 12 2025, 07:20 AM)
Yes, until you use high res textures then the 8GB one will starts to struggle icon_idea.gif

Source: PCGH.de
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You shouldnt be using high res textures for 1080P gaming anyways. Its like trying to race a Toyota in F1, why try to kill the hardware and then blame it for not performing well?
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QUOTE(Skylinestar @ May 16 2025, 07:49 AM)
I'm scared and started buying mobo and ram.
I have tracked DDR5 6000 CL30 ram and price doesn't drop in a year. very disappointed.
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Bcoz its our RM that keeps dropping doh.gif

Expect inflation to go up higher once tariffs really hits. Hardware prices will be the least of your worries unless your the atas earner.
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QUOTE(llk @ May 16 2025, 07:59 AM)
DDR5 6000 CL30 is the sweet spot of Ryzen processors, the demand is high, why do manufacturers want to cut the price?
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In global world, DDR5 prices continue to go down while new CUDIMMs keep increasing speed and low latency kits also dropping prices. Only in Msia where hardware prices stagnate or go up due to distros scalping.

Say demand high but all makers are cutting back production. Its a cartel now unlike in the past.

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