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post Apr 7 2025, 09:11 AM

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QUOTE(HolyCooler @ Apr 7 2025, 04:00 AM)
What games you were playing? I don't think 3080 can load ultra setting (i assumed ultra setting = highest setting, the highest raytracing setting alone will already made many games crawling on 3080) + 1440p with consistent 60fps for games like indiana jones the great circle, blackmyth wukong, MH wilds, etc
Both. Making full use of it at the moment. AI is kinda additive and fun once exploring it.
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COD 6 and Battlefield 2042 and other FPS games.. and yes all highest settings .. fps range ard 100-120 (paired with 9800x3d)
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post Apr 7 2025, 12:26 PM

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QUOTE(iZuDeeN @ Apr 7 2025, 09:11 AM)
COD 6 and Battlefield 2042 and other FPS games.. and yes all highest settings .. fps range ard 100-120 (paired with 9800x3d)
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I see, i never play FPS due to will get nausea. The fps is raw or with frame gen?

QUOTE(babylon52281 @ Apr 7 2025, 08:54 AM)
AI hallucinating like its on LSD is very addictive  biggrin.gif
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I never like those random generating things. So far i am exploring those workflows (comfyUI) that can give me better control over what i want / expect. There are workflows that can generate different images consistently with the same characters on the images, and also can train using specified people's photos to become the consistent character output, etc. Also testing installed deepseek on my PC to further explore / understand what / how it can help me, etc. Using grok/chatgpt/deepseek/etc to work on coding also saving lots of time, thought this one no need a powerful PC.


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QUOTE(HolyCooler @ Apr 7 2025, 12:26 PM)
I see, i never play FPS due to will get nausea. The fps is raw or with frame gen?
3080 don’t have native frame gen I think only upscale ; but I did try before the frame gen .. but texture load weird …

.. short answer it’s the default setting on ultra… so I assume it’s without any frame gen etc … 100-120 fps on 1440p
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QUOTE(JohnLai @ Apr 5 2025, 06:24 PM)
Same here.

Fark the retailers.  puke.gif
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how's your 5090 booking?
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post Apr 7 2025, 09:14 PM

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how's your 5090 booking?
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Absolutely no luck. sad.gif

Dotatech said can only sell once they have stock allocation from local distributor hence the waiting list. Paid deposit only. moneyflies.gif
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post Apr 7 2025, 09:34 PM

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QUOTE(JohnLai @ Apr 7 2025, 09:14 PM)
Absolutely no luck. sad.gif

Dotatech said can only sell once they have stock allocation from local distributor hence the waiting list. Paid deposit only.  moneyflies.gif
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LOL betcha distros are holding stocks waiting for post tariff price hikes which they will simply blame on Trump and you will believe it, but they ady bought these stocks at pre tariff lower prices. Haha.
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QUOTE(babylon52281 @ Apr 7 2025, 09:34 PM)
LOL betcha distros are holding stocks waiting for post tariff price hikes which they will simply blame on Trump and you will believe it, but they ady bought these stocks at pre tariff lower prices. Haha.
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The USA tariff shouldn't have anything to do with Malaysia since nothing is assembled over there.

On the other hand, the GPU supply should be better since the poor USA cannot afford expensive GPU due to the tariff in the first place. whistling.gif
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post Apr 7 2025, 11:49 PM

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QUOTE(JohnLai @ Apr 7 2025, 09:39 PM)
The USA tariff shouldn't have anything to do with Malaysia since nothing is assembled over there.

On the other hand, the GPU supply should be better since the poor USA cannot afford expensive GPU due to the tariff in the first place. whistling.gif
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You might think not were not affected but nope. Even HUB are certain Aussie prices will go up and their farther to US than us


See at 29 mins in.
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QUOTE(babylon52281 @ Apr 7 2025, 11:49 PM)
You might think not were not affected but nope. Even HUB are certain Aussie prices will go up and their farther to US than us


See at 29 mins in.
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it will increase everywhere. nowadays supply chain is interconnected among multiple countries. cannot escape the tarrif or counter tarrif.
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post Apr 8 2025, 09:01 AM

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QUOTE(ipohps3 @ Apr 7 2025, 11:55 PM)
it will increase everywhere. nowadays supply chain is interconnected among multiple countries. cannot escape the tarrif or counter tarrif.
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Indeed but some still thinks we wont kena. Well here is what ChatGPT says:

Will trump tariff affect goods prices in other countries?

ChatGPT said:
Yes, Trump's tariffs can affect the prices of goods in other countries, even though the tariffs are applied to imports into the U.S. When the U.S. imposes tariffs on goods from other countries, several things can happen that impact global prices:

Increased Prices in Other Countries: If other countries face higher tariffs on their exports to the U.S., they may raise their prices to account for the added cost of the tariff. This could affect consumers in other countries as well, especially if the goods are integral to their local economy.

Global Supply Chains: Many products are part of global supply chains, where parts or raw materials come from various countries. If tariffs are applied on these goods, it can disrupt the production processes and raise costs for manufacturers in other countries. These increased production costs might eventually be passed on to consumers in other countries.

Trade Diversion: If the U.S. raises tariffs on goods from certain countries, those countries might seek to increase exports to other markets to compensate for lost sales in the U.S. This could shift the global flow of goods and impact supply and demand in other countries, which might influence local prices.

Inflationary Effects: Countries that rely heavily on imports from the U.S. or face higher tariffs may experience inflation, as goods become more expensive due to the added tariff costs. This could lead to higher prices for consumers in those countries.

In summary, while tariffs are primarily imposed on U.S. imports, they can have ripple effects across the globe, influencing prices in other countries depending on the structure of trade, production, and consumption.
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post Apr 8 2025, 09:23 AM

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anyway US/China trade war going to increase tax from 34% to 104%...

hope Malaysia wins!

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c8rgkkl7v8lo
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QUOTE(iZuDeeN @ Apr 8 2025, 09:23 AM)
anyway US/China trade war going to increase tax from 34% to 104%...

hope Malaysia wins!

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c8rgkkl7v8lo
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How will Msia win when we too got tariff'ed?
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QUOTE(babylon52281 @ Apr 8 2025, 10:26 PM)
How will Msia win when we too got tariff'ed?
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oversupply... demand lower in US... production remains the same

But anyway, prices still go up regardless, as Nvidia is still listed in NASDAQ, i.e they pay the tariff, which is passed down to users


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QUOTE(iZuDeeN @ Apr 9 2025, 09:18 AM)
oversupply... demand lower in US... production remains the same

But anyway, prices still go up regardless, as Nvidia is still listed in NASDAQ, i.e they pay the tariff, which is passed down to users
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Even $3000 Astral 5090 are selling out everywhere in USA. If they can afford $3000 GPU what is a raise of MSRP from $2000 to $2500 ?

Just coz of tariffs, demand wont magically go from 5090s down to 5080s or buyers wanting 5080s now going for 5070Ti. High end demand will still remain as people can still pay the premium. In USA it prolly just cost them 1-2 weeks more salary.

It is those lower down the affordability chain where poorer folks might choose to skip upgrading 5060/5050 because they need to afford for essentials that will be most affected but then you guys arent aiming for cheaper lower end GPUs isnt it?

There are no winners in Trump tariff war unless your Sinkie (somehow they only got 10% which they can remove by reducing their 10% import tariffs if they wanted, how convenient).
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QUOTE(babylon52281 @ Apr 9 2025, 09:37 AM)
Even $3000 Astral 5090 are selling out everywhere in USA. If they can afford $3000 GPU what is a raise of MSRP from $2000 to $2500 ?

Just coz of tariffs, demand wont magically go from 5090s down to 5080s or buyers wanting 5080s now going for 5070Ti. High end demand will still remain as people can still pay the premium. In USA it prolly just cost them 1-2 weeks more salary.

It is those lower down the affordability chain where poorer folks might choose to skip upgrading 5060/5050 because they need to afford for essentials that will be most affected but then you guys arent aiming for cheaper lower end GPUs isnt it?

There are no winners in Trump tariff war unless your Sinkie (somehow they only got 10% which they can remove by reducing their 10% import tariffs if they wanted, how convenient).
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If PCMag got their article correct then GPUs are likely to be tariffed on their ALU contents. Malaysia also escaped part of the tariff as majority of our exports to US falls under the 'electronics and microchips' exemption.


https://www.pcmag.com/news/gpus-spared-from...-still-increase
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QUOTE(sleepwalker @ Apr 9 2025, 12:14 PM)
If PCMag got their article correct then GPUs are likely to be tariffed on their ALU contents. Malaysia also escaped part of the tariff as majority of our exports to US falls under the 'electronics and microchips' exemption.
https://www.pcmag.com/news/gpus-spared-from...-still-increase
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Really? Explain this then

https://www.techpowerup.com/335198/framewor...-tariff-changes

https://www.techpowerup.com/335076/nintendo...rders-in-the-us
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QUOTE(babylon52281 @ Apr 9 2025, 12:37 PM)
Coz those are complete products. That's what PCMag was trying to explain. The full tariff just came into effect a couple of hours ago and we'd get to see more information very soon. With Nvidia stocks in such short supply (they don't have like 6 months of inventory in US already) we don't have to wait for long before the next shipment to get taxed and get to see the new price in the US.

The biggest cost for the AIB is the Nvidia GPU/Mem and if those components gets to move in and out of US without getting tariffed, then we won't see the full impact of the tariff on the GPU.
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i think.. nothing is exceptional. in the list or not in the list, price will go up. sad.gif
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How's the inventory status for the 5070Ti/9070 XT? Planning to buy one before tariffs pushes pricing even further sweat.gif
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https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/202...iprocal-tariffs

So it won't be super unaffordable, just unaffordable.

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