Custom PC vs. Prebuild - nowadays no need to think twice which is the cheaper option.

Try to build your own custom PC with current part prices and compare the exact specs to the Aurora R12 prebuild.

It's obvious which is cheaper, unless of course you can magically get a 30-series at MSRP.

I sooo wish the R12 here had Ryzen option

In the US they have option to choose between Aurora R12 Intel 11th gen and R12 Ryzen Edition 5000 series.

Can try this, seems like it reduced temps considerably (same design with R12):

6:44 - Fan installation, 13:11 - Results


Not sure if it helps with VRAM, but CPU seems like helped quite a bit.

Dell should have added more fans to the case to be honest.

If overclocking, I think it will easily hit power & thermal limits.

This post has been edited by defaultname365: Apr 9 2021, 09:05 PM

Erm.. okay... I think we have established post warranty is expensive while your earlier comment implied normal warranty.





This post has been edited by defaultname365: Apr 9 2021, 11:04 PM

To me 2 years is sweet spot if I ever get a Dell desktop especially gaming-purposed desktop because I know I will be upgrading within 2 years.

If take max 5 years that means you are not going to upgrade any component for that no. of years.

Even if you do upgrade, if want to send back for warranty/repair, you need to replace back the original part into the desktop which is kinda leceh...

And if want to sell away the desktop, all the parts also have to be exact as per the build so that warranty is not voided for the next owner to continue on with the warranty period, correct me if I'm wrong.

Aiyoyo... and so it begins...



Seems like the 10 days pre-order = the time it takes to build & deliver the Dell full system. The shop itself is scam, no sales and joined 2 months ago, but don't be surprised this is how scalpers going to misuse OEM builds now

Specs are fishy as well, Model：RTX3090 but product title is 3070 & 3090 and overpriced.

Anyway, kinda silly to analyze these scam shops which are sprouting like mushrooms all over Shopee/Lazada.

This post has been edited by defaultname365: Apr 11 2021, 02:36 AM

So.. Nvidia is just going ahead with their plans.

https://videocardz.com/newz/msi-geforce-rtx...-during-transit





Price?

I predict it to be $999 as an answer to the 6900 XT.

But knowing Nvidia, they might price it higher.

Stock how? Get ready for another round of "sold out". A few months after May 2021, expect garage sales to have it for RM10k+ since the 3080 already selling for high RM8k to RM9k.

Ouch if true (but nothing to be surprised anymore)



If you're still hunting for GPUs, in my opinion, just stop and buy a prebuild.

If you're really the enthusiast-money-don't-matter type then go for it, 3080 now reaching RM10k

Upsetting to those who built their PCs last year and waiting for a 'decently priced' GPU as the last missing component which may never happen this year.

I've tried from Best Buy. $699 for 3080. It was in the cart, checked out and all. A few minutes later, order cancelled. Best Buy knows you are using international credit card and cancels the order. I even used a friend of mine in US address (second attempt) and it failed.

It is extremely difficult to get to the checkout point on drop days so imagine the frustration. And the live chat so many said they were successful adding to the frustration. Actually I wasn't 100% serious but just wanted to try 😅 Not going to bother trying again.

Best way to get a 3080 (or 30 series in general) is prebuild and Dell is currently the best choice.

Wow, looks like the Dell Aurora really selling...

Now no more offering 11900K from the build and I heard no more MY15OFF

At this rate in a few months, maybe only 3060 Ti / 3070 will be the options available

If Dell offered Ryzen option for Alienware... it will be the easiest decision ever to get one. Not sure why here don't have As for the RAM bottleneck, I did find some info a few days ago out of curiosity and it kinda solved? The thread was like 19 pages long and in it it was Corsair memory or something that did the trick to get full 3200MHz.

This one I guess: https://www.dell.com/community/Alienware-De...de/td-p/7534537

This post has been edited by defaultname365: May 11 2021, 05:10 PM

Newegg Shuffle is like a scam to be honest. I think I've tried a dozen times, all failed Another 'I am not going to bother anymore' thing for me this year.

The odds of winning are now at 0.001% : https://www.tomshardware.com/news/newegg-shuffle-odds

Also, the GPU prices of the shuffle = higher than usual.

So not only your chances are quite low, you also get slapped with a higher than usual AIB GPU prices, though it's still not scalper prices.

In the early days of the Shuffle, it was quite positive, now I think even scalpers are in it (so expect thousands of submissions per scalper to increase their chances to win). Heck, I would say even a normal gamer might submit a dozen submissions or more.

For consoles, you can easily get a PS5 / Xbox Series X from Shopee though the prices are higher a bit, but it's there and there's been stock for sometime, no issue here.

Amazon? Good luck. Bot heaven.

The moment you receive stock alert, within 0.5 seconds it will be sold out (actually is less than 0.5 seconds).

It may look like you are able to purchase, proceed to add to cart to checkout, and it's gone.

I believe there are thousands of bots that keep refreshing the 'Add to Cart' button and Amazon is sorely lacking of any queuing method compared to Best Buy.

If you go down the 'buying bot' rabbithole, a 'true' buying bot for resellers can fetch thousands of $$$, just the bot alone. And the real buying bots themselves have queue to buy

Haha... sometimes I go back to last year comments and just chuckle...

Mostly everyone had hoped 2021 would be better

Back in 2020, I knew things were going to be this bad, that's why I became so resourceful and got multiple GPUs.

Heck I even told friends and family to put in the effort and be resourceful to go all way out.

"Things will get better" they said but I said "No!" "You got to put in the effort and be resourceful," I said sternly.

Ahhhh.... here we are finally. Sitting on a pile of money.

Life's good!

/s

Old pic but how many more are there...



Need a law for non-mining purpose GPUs usage - - 'illegal for use for mining purposes'. Easier said than done obviously.

I think the future of all GPUs will be nerfed for cryptocurrency mining, making the older 'unlocked' GPUs that much more valuable (even though much slower in gaming performance).

Ouch... shortage from Dell now

Incoming

[WTS] Non-LHR <30-series GPU>
Price:

Also hope:
Nvidia Announces That All Non-LHR GPUs from 10-series to 30-series Will Self Destruct 1 Month from Now Onwards If Used For Mining Purposes

3080 = $699 [~RM9000 now]
3080 Ti = $1199 [~RM10k+ easily]



I thought it would be $999 though I know MSRPs are a thing of the past now.

Review embargo lifted
https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-geforce-...-review-roundup

At times the 3080 Ti even beats the 3090 due to being able to boost more frequently than the 3090

Absolutely right, my thoughts exactly.

$699 for a 3080 is considered 'expensive' in my own PC upgrade pricing/budget terms, but there's a lot of value to be had.

3090 at $1499, is a ludicrous price and a 'Titan-class' GPU with tonnes of VRAM aimed at content creators & enthusiast gamers, so the price sorta justifiable? I think we have accepted it as such at this point.

Now for the 3080 Ti, to me the price tag shouldn't be >$999 MSRP, so for it to be $500 higher than a 3080 for additional 2Gb VRAM and slight performance boost...

If this was Nvidia's way to deter scalpers, Nvidia themselves are now the scalpers

What does this mean moving forward for future GPUs? I don't know. It does not look good at all.

i9 + 3090... Even standalone 3090 already cost as much if not more hehe

I really wish they had Ryzen offering