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post Jun 8 2023, 10:36 PM

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QUOTE(solarmystic @ Jun 8 2023, 04:30 PM)
If a 3060TI can't get 100/100 at 1080p Max Ultra, it means that this game has shit tier optimization lor.

Try 1440p or 4K Ultra and see whether you can still get 100/100 or not.

Fighting games always cater to lower end hardware to maximize the userbase.

What do you expect, it's not trying to be another Crysis or The Last of Us.
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This game as a tech demo is shit tier, period.

At 2K it still easily scores 100/100
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And at 4K it still scores playable FPS
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Mind you 3060Ti isnt a 4K GPU so this result is all the more remarkable.
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post Jun 8 2023, 10:43 PM

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QUOTE(PJng @ Jun 8 2023, 08:54 PM)
It auto limit fps if mid, or low setting, 50, 50, 50 & 50, 30, 30
Yes i have 100hz monitor, but no highend card
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Mine is on ultra high tho, you can up the FPS cap to 60 / 90 /120. Since my monitor is 75Hz, my system performance is limited to such.
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post Jun 19 2023, 11:46 AM

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I will wait for the industry to come out with coloured connectors that can show if its not fully inserted, as was proposed by MSI.
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post Jun 26 2023, 01:57 AM

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QUOTE(Andrewtst @ Jun 26 2023, 01:30 AM)
Yup agreed! It is crazy thick and long and I am worried my casing cannot fit, lucky it fit just nice.
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Ur case & the GPU brand will tell what is their dimensions and how much can fit
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So as long as you follow their guidance it should fit no problem, and based on ur pics, there is still a lot of room left unless you didnt use a front mounted AIO
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post Jun 26 2023, 09:08 AM

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QUOTE(Andrewtst @ Jun 26 2023, 02:12 AM)
Yup can go up to 100 FPS except the fighting scenes where as mentioned cap at 60 FPS.
I believe most user will manage to get 100/100 scores.

Here is my benchmark result in 4K resolution max quality setting.
I never think checking on that. 😅
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Which is why I said SF6 is useless as a benchmarker if any relatively decent system could get 100/100 score. It doesnt tell anything except mine playing at 1080 has the same FPS as urs at 4K. Even at 2K mine prolly will perform the same.

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post Jun 27 2023, 05:59 PM

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QUOTE(Skylinestar @ Jun 27 2023, 01:30 PM)
RTX4060 (8GB) is slower than RTX3060Ti  cry.gif
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LOL maybe havent turn... DLSS3 ON!!!

Once include fake frames, walao FPS tebo wei LOL lol.gif
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QUOTE(Andrewtst @ Jun 27 2023, 08:14 PM)
It is not Ti edition, no Suprise.
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The gen-to-gen uplift is disappointing really, when 2060 came out it did around 1070Ti performance level. When 3060 12GB came out it did around 2070 level. Now 4060 nonTI could not even beat 3060Ti natively without turning on fake frames.
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QUOTE(solarmystic @ Jun 29 2023, 08:30 PM)
Yep, it's garbage, pure trash. But it will still sell like hotcakes and occupy the top 5 Steam Hardware List by next year, mark my words.

Btw, not being able to beat the 3060TI is not even the worst thing about this card. In some games it can't even beat its own direct predecessor, the RTX 3060 at 1080p shocking.gif

Resident Evil 4 at 1080p Prioritize Graphics Quality (exact same performance, not even Maximum Settings mind you)

The Last of Us at 1080p Ultra (same average FPS, the 3060 gets better 1% lows LOL)

At 1440p and above, this card is even more of a disaster compared to the 3060, straight up losing to it in the same games

Just like the POS that was the 4060TI compared to the 3060TI, it can't definitively win in every game even against it's own older counterpart, never before has such a thing happened in the history of NVIDIA cards before the 4000 series.

In the past, when you upgraded from an older card of the same class to the newer card, e.g. 1060 to 2060. you were always guaranteed superior performance in every aspect, in every game, and at every resolution tested. Not anymore it seems.
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On the contrary I bet that this will push people to go out and clean out any 3060 12GB, 3060Ti stocks, and resale of 3060s might get a boost. This will effectively freeze most of the 4060 potential sales, and tho it might pick up in later years once 3060s are dried up, likely nothing will top 3060s in Steam charts until the release of 5060, which could have a huge uplift once Nvidia sees the backlash on 4060s.

What I am oso interested to see is comparison of 4060nonTI with "fake" 3060 8GB.

Its a foregone conclusion that at higher res, the 192bit 12GB VRAM will eat up that puny 128bit 8GB but really the 3060nonTI isnt a good 1440p card anyhow. 8GB aint so terrible when you look at 3060Ti perf.
What HUB doesnt show is how much extra boost will fake frames give tho. And I think with that it will go higher than 3060Ti but that is only if you like seeing fake frames.

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post Jul 2 2023, 05:33 PM

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QUOTE(ben3003 @ Jul 2 2023, 11:27 AM)
If gaming on 1440p now best buy is 4070? My fren looking to upgrade his PC. But i think wait few months maybe price gonna drop because low sales
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It depends. 4070 is where the shitshow of 40series starts, where it has the same exact number of Cuda cores the 3070 that it replaces. If can wait go for 4070Ti, bcoz that was what Nvidia wanted to sell as the x80 card.
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QUOTE(mudkipryan94 @ Jul 2 2023, 05:33 PM)
originally from daniel owen? hmm.gif

anyway saw RTX 4060 review and performance , I'm like okay, well skipped it keep my RTX 2060 another year 1st laugh.gif
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Yup. Surprisingly as DO was slammed as one of those influencers (along with J2C) whom were given controlled performance results by Nvidia to do positive spin on 4060 b4 the launch.
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post Jul 3 2023, 12:37 AM

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QUOTE(solarmystic @ Jul 2 2023, 09:08 PM)
DO doesn't misrepresent his data in that "spin" video though. He explains clearly what he can and cannot show in that preview, as directed by NVIDIA.

He exposes the 4060 for the trash that it is in his full review videos after the embargo gets fully lifted so I've no complaints against him.
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Yup, which is why I found it funny he was chosen by Nvidia and why the netizens slammed him. Those who followed him would knew his was often very level headed review and he often backs up with review footage. He doesnt show fanboyism and even take pains to explain that he wasnt 'bought' (this was way before the 4060 controlled preview).
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QUOTE(Rei7 @ Jul 8 2023, 07:31 AM)
Glad I got the 4090 tho, rather than gaming it's for AI stuff like Stable Diffusion. The speed of the generation of artworks and the amount of Vram especially.

I think I'll just grab the highest-end cards as well for next gen. I mean for work purpose it shouldn't be a waste of money anyway since you're earning more than you purchase laugh.gif

Nvidia cards only tho, AMD is a no go really for AI. So think about that as well when purchasing.  icon_idea.gif
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IF you make money from it, a 4090 makes sense. But if just for gaming the performance difference from 4080 is not worth it unless ur got an equally crazy high refresh screen and lightning eyes that can see 240>FPS.
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QUOTE(solarmystic @ Jul 8 2023, 10:50 PM)
HUB did a comprehensive 50 game benchmark proving definitively that the 4060TI sucks as a direct generational successor to the 3060TI

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Expected once see the paper specs. Technically its an impressive card, doing raster perf slightly better on average losing a few, with inferior specs and lower power limits. HUB video just highlights that if you wanna buy a GPU today better go for 3060TI/3070 or RX6700XT and wait out hoping Nvidia realises what shitshow GPU they selling and that 5060Ti (or else 6600Ti) will be far better.
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QUOTE(OlgaC4 @ Jul 31 2023, 12:35 PM)
your 6core is too weak. 1060 still ok.
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1060 for 2K gaming? Ur gotta be joking.
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QUOTE(Skylinestar @ Aug 5 2023, 08:07 PM)
Nvidia has also practically halted production on all of its 40-series GPUs

https://www.extremetech.com/gaming/report-n...-40-series-gpus
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As if they care, their new moneymaker is AI now
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QUOTE(craxors @ Aug 14 2023, 08:30 AM)
old psu just come with 3 pcie power cable... some 4090 come with 1-4 adapter.. just we just use 3? 

some google and youtube mentioned OK.
- the card will draw 450w. good enough.
- 600w for overclocking...
- 450w vs 600w only 5% difference in performance.

safe or just ok or no no no....??  sweat.gif  hmm.gif
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Will be fine as the sense pin will kick in and detect 1/4 missing power line so the GPU power circuitry will artificially limit GPU power demand to 450W but why do that to ur very expensive 4090? a proper PSU cost only pennies compared to its price.
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QUOTE(craxors @ Aug 15 2023, 04:13 PM)
noted.

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If ur buying new better to get one that is 900-1000W and comes native with 12VHPWR. Then it will run ur 4090 unleashed.
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QUOTE(TristanX @ Aug 16 2023, 07:29 PM)
I already skipping a gen or two. They can enjoy collecting dust waiting for sales.
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AMD ady said they gave up trying to beat 4090. Nvidia pulak got AI & China to fall back on with GPU downturn so they don't even feel the pain from gamers rejection. And if this keeps up, Nvidia might not even need to come out new series of GPUS anymore and just keep selling 4000 series (or use same chip but rebrand to 5000 - 6000) for many many years. In the end gamers also GG.

Now it depends on Intel to take the fight with ARC but market also not really give them chance so they might give up that soon. Gamers still GG.

Made worse when games comes out unfinished and requiring top end hardware just to play their unoptimised shit. I might as well give up in games.
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QUOTE(Baconateer @ Aug 16 2023, 08:12 PM)
still got many indie studios

dont give up yet
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Indies often focus their gameplay or storyline becoz they know they cannot compare with big studios eycandy but if I spend that much for a rig I want muh eyecandy! I still play an indie game I that have whenever I wanna shutoff my brain.

QUOTE(TristanX @ Aug 16 2023, 08:39 PM)
You can do many things to counter price inflation. I'm planning to go 1080p to reduce the need of GPU power. Consoles is another option. Or just quit gaming and go for healthier lifestyle.

Intel still got Battlemage coming. They are trying really hard too.

Yeah, I don't buy new games immediately these days. Wait for complaints first.
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Im ady at 1080P bro, cant go any lower, was planning to go 4K or UW in 5 years time but looking at the devolution of GPU perf, even affordable 4K by then might be a dream. Intel w/o Raja Koduri has lost their patron & champion. If Battlemage doesnt bring the battle to 4080/7900XT class, the market will continue to freeze them out and Intel might sooner cut their losses.
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QUOTE(nasiayam @ Aug 18 2023, 11:37 PM)
Hi,

building a rig, considering the below, is ASUS RTX 4070 TI 12GB TUF GAMING a good choice?

ASUS RTX 4070 TI 12GB TUF GAMING / TUF OC: RM 4199|4399 
MSI RTX 4070 TI 12GB VENTUS 3X OC: RM 4310
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Get myway quote for RM8,665.00 system in the other tered then swap to colorful rtx4080 for Rm 5500, total just a tiny bit over ur RM 11k budget.

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