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post Apr 14 2023, 08:32 AM

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Launch availability at MSRP? Wow!
https://www.techpowerup.com/307220/no-short...0-cards-at-msrp

RTX4000series are selling so badly that that Nvidia has to give free game even for just today launched model
https://www.techpowerup.com/307133/nvidia-b...-graphics-cards
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post Apr 14 2023, 08:40 AM

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QUOTE(skylinelover @ Apr 14 2023, 08:22 AM)
haha i guess the calling is on me laugh.gif

1070 still going since 2016 laugh.gif
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1070 still is a playable card, just might have to turn down some featuresets but thanks to FSR2 (ironically thanks to AMD!) and no RT function ur Pascal still can keep up the FPS in more modern games.

Keep hanging onto it if you can, dun let Jensen buttf*cked you with 12GB VRAM & fake frames DLSS3.
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post Apr 14 2023, 08:53 AM

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https://www.techpowerup.com/307110/amd-play...-against-nvidia
Even tho this is an obvious shameless marketing plug by AMD, fact is, and a lot of reviewers have shown, AMD is correct that newly released games even today would struggle with 8-12GB VRAM and if ur in the market for mid-upper to higher range GPU, dun consider even less than 16GB.

TLDR 4070/Ti have started to rapidly age, and will not age well.

My advice, dun consider anything less than 4080 and when RTX 4000 overall sales tank bcoz the midrange isnt selling, Nvidia might just wake up and correct the VRAM stinginess for 5000series. If ur looking to upgrade but not urgently, wait for 5000 or 6000(if Nvidia still sleeping with 5000series) and if ur really need one get RX6700XT and above or 3080Ti (2K & 4K perf still beats the 4070 thanks to, again I highlight, the VRAM limitations of 12GB on 192bit bus of the 4070).

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post Apr 14 2023, 12:37 PM

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QUOTE(targon @ Apr 14 2023, 11:59 AM)
What's all this playing waiting game?
post pandemic, it ain't gonna happen expecting for cheap GPU and top performance
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Dun give in, dun give up. If you believe this mantra propounded by Jensen and Lisa, GPU prices will never return back to normal.
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post Apr 17 2023, 11:35 AM

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QUOTE(Skylinestar @ Apr 17 2023, 07:35 AM)
Vulkan so expensive. Wow.
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post Apr 18 2023, 10:16 AM

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4070 months long leak seems accurate on point so this rumour of 4060Ti I think will be spot on as well:
https://www.guru3d.com/news-story/colorfuls...nd-details.html

Comparing spec vs spec with my 3060Ti, I speculate it could be 75% slower but turning on DLSS3 fake frames will boost it 25% higher FPS than a 3060Ti. Make it what you will, guys.

IMHO 4000 series except 4090 was a wash but bcoz Nvidia still needs to sell them, and to trump over Radeon they came out with DLSS3 to remain competitive on the FPS front. Look at how poor native 4K is without DLSS3
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And prepare tp pay more for those fake frames
https://www.techpowerup.com/307412/nvidia-t...rce-rtx-4060-ti

If this trend continues, DLSS4 might make 2 fake frames sandwiching a real frame so the question is how real are the higher FPS from a new RTX then, when ur input no longer counts or rather when the AI "predicts" ur input then?

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post Apr 19 2023, 01:14 PM

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QUOTE(kopiride @ Apr 19 2023, 12:57 PM)
2023 I don't think people should be buying something they call high end regardless of what frame rate. We should be getting 256bit minimum than down grade to 192. That's Nvidia trying to cheap out on it. So that 5000 series they can increase just the bit and claim improve performance x2.
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Don't feed Jensen's greed anymore. If everyone treats 4000series like the lukewarm 2000series, I bet Nvidia will turn up the 5000series far better similar they did with 3000series, which the only issue was high prices caused by Covid, mining & scalpers. Technically it was a far better leap than 2000series. Just don't buy 4000, get 3000 or Radeons.
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post Apr 21 2023, 11:20 PM

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QUOTE(Skylinestar @ Apr 21 2023, 08:27 PM)
Didn't Nvidia & GN ady showed that most of the time its due to user did not fully insert the socket? Changing the design how the cable connects still doesn't change the intrinsic sensitivity of the connector itself.
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post Apr 22 2023, 10:48 AM

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QUOTE(John Chaser @ Apr 22 2023, 10:23 AM)
This one was fully interested all the way.
Yet it still burned. At this point, i might as well get the RX 7900 XTX.
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Then it would be interesting to see if Nvidia does make any response or if more cases coming back, however there is a small chance it could be a connector issue or the way that OP plugs in which might dislodge the pins, after all just bcoz its done by CableMod doesn't mean better quality as the connectors they still sourced from the same supplier as Nvidia & the AIBs.

IMHO anything less than 4090 in the RTX40series is a ripoff and ur better off getting that Radeon just to teach Jensen a lesson.
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post Apr 23 2023, 10:03 AM

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QUOTE(lolzcalvin @ Apr 22 2023, 12:31 PM)
cablemod also replied to the thread.

they sold 40k+ adapters, only 5 incl the one shown in the thread. 4 of them, before this one, were due to user error (adapter not fully plugged in), as worded by cablemod themselves. there is a chance it's still due to user error in this case no matter how well documented it is, but wont deny there is also a chance it could be cablemod's adapter defect, simply because the user had already built his PC with 4090 way before retrieving cablemod's adapter, and it seemed to be without issue until the installation of the adapter.
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The OP had used it for a while and nothing happened, then he would be presumed to know the correct process to plug in the cable.
The connector on the GPU did not burn during his usage beforehand.

So the only new/weakest link is CableMod's adapter part.
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post Apr 28 2023, 09:14 AM

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QUOTE(TristanX @ Apr 27 2023, 05:16 PM)
The worst xx60 launch. RTX 3060 12GB, 4060 8GB? Fail
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3060 nonTi was supposedly a 6GB card, similar to 2060 but was bumped late in development due to AMD giving 8GB for their 66series, looking at benches that GPU could not make use of the massive VRAM buffer except in certain cases anyhow.
This unlike 3070 range cards which would have gotten a massive boost if Nvidia didnt skimp on VRAM https://www.tomshardware.com/news/3070-16gb-mod
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post Apr 28 2023, 09:18 AM

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QUOTE(solarmystic @ Apr 28 2023, 07:56 AM)
Day 1 patch fixed this tho. Just the usual shit optimized pre-launch preview code that has this issue.

Only 9.5 GB VRAM required for 1440p Ultra.

What isn't fixed however, is the horrendous CPU bottleneck, 10400F not enough to get 60 FPS even on all lowest settings.
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As I said b4 in anothe tered, 6Pcores are becoming the minimum for AAA titles and soon 8Pcores will be the recommended medium settings spec. Time for an upgrade to a 10700/K.

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QUOTE(solarmystic @ Apr 28 2023, 10:55 AM)
Not even a core count issue, even a 12c/24t 5900X cannot maintain 60 FPS all the time with a RTX 4090, according to another game preview report when there's loads of GPU headroom.

The game engine is just basically hammering 4 cores hard, so ST IPC is much more important in this particular unoptimized title.
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8cores is pretty much the apex for gaming right now as it balance core count with speed. Yes IPC & speed matters, which is why games generally dont scale well past 8cores and which is why even 7800X3D has limited to 8cores (same as 5800X3D). But in general, AAA games scales with cores towards 8P and with core speeds.

QUOTE(OlgaC4 @ Apr 28 2023, 11:35 AM)
Let me correct that. 8 cores are the minimum for AAA now
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Really? Just last year AAA games recommended specs were 6Pcores! How times change so fast. Haha lol.gif
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QUOTE(craxors @ Apr 28 2023, 11:44 AM)
may is coming...

still worth upgrade to 4 series or wait 5?
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If you need a GC in May its not a matter of worth or not. 40series not yet finish launch the whole family so no way 50series will come out anytime soon.
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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Apr 28 2023, 01:45 PM)
Refunded Jedi Survivor.

What a fucking disaster, not as bad as TLoU was but fuck Respawn they aren't new PC devs.

Humble 3080 + 5900x here, can't even do 1440p60... like come the fuck on.
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Rule when buying AAA games, dont buy until the 1st update.
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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Apr 28 2023, 02:02 PM)
Apa lanjiao first update?

The game had TWO updates already. Day 0 patch and a day 1 patch.

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That bad huh? And I thought CP2077 & Hogwarts was about the worst since its unplayable b4 1st update. I guess you'll have to wait until the game is fully stable.
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QUOTE(Skylinestar @ Apr 30 2023, 02:10 PM)
poor man's cable mod 90 degree adaptor tongue.gif

inb4 mana der8auer adaptor with power indicator?
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Der8auer is still milking his 10X more expensive Thermalgrizzly LGA contract frames for Intel & AMD CPUs. Give him time.
Once people stop buying those gimmicks from him (because they go for 10X cheaper Thermalrights), only then he will come out his 10X pricier adaptors. Mind you it still won't prevent the socket from burning yea.

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QUOTE(cawan @ May 16 2023, 02:45 PM)
i could not find angle adaptor for RTX3 series FE.

do they exist?
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Quoting above: "Would you trust this cap ayam adaptor with your expensive af RM8-9K GPU?"

Or else just wait for TermahalGrizzly DerBauer designed & made in Germany(so say) pay in Euros 90 degree angle connector.
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QUOTE(solarmystic @ May 18 2023, 07:21 PM)
Official NVIDIA price and performance slides leaked for the 4060TI 8/16GB and 4060. No price mentioned for 4060 however.

399 USD for 8GB (May launch)
499 USD for 16GB (to be launched in July)

https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-announce...-launch-in-july
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I find the performance chart hard to believe. Not because the 4060Ti is so far ahead but because the 3060Ti is supposedly on par with 2080S which is far ahead of the 2060S and yet the charts here showed a not so significant gap, so hmm hmm.gif
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QUOTE(JohnLai @ May 20 2023, 09:21 PM)
........totally not worth it....... hmm.gif
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None of the 40 series are, not even the 4090 which has no competition as its obscenely overpriced. At this rate, this GPU generation could beat the 20 series for being the most hated series since the FX era.

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