"old lady" luck smiling on Juve when gagliardini shot hitting the post and goes straight to szczesny hand

this probably the toughest match to date for Juve since the start of the season. A draw might be a fair result, but a win is a win. Forza Juve

I thought for sure it was a goal!

We certainly woke up after that.

Wished we scored more goals though to secure the win.

if we perform like we did against Young Boys....its a lose-lose situation regardless who we draw in the 2nd round

if we finished 2nd we could get the likes of Barca, Bayern, City, Real, BVB, PSG, even Porto..

apart from Spurs & Liverpool hopefully no one overlooked Atletico. So no matter we either finished 1st or 2nd there'll be a tough teams awaits in the next round

The lost vs YB also cost Juve 2.7mil, which is not a small amount for Juve roster.
But what a disallow goal by Dybala. Too bad CR seems attempted to head it instead of showing no-action sign.

indeed. Ronaldo with his rather "selfish-esque" style when he had opportunity to square the ball to Mandzukic a few times
but rather trying to go for personal glory himself

anyway, all done & dusted. I don't think if we finished either 1st or 2nd place in the group would've made a different...maybe a little..

if finished 1st ; Atletico, Liverpool, Spurs, Lyon, Schalke, Ajax

if finished 2nd ; Barcelona, Bayern, Real Madrid, Man City, Porto, Dortmund, PSG

if u ask me all those teams are tough, the likes of Porto or Schalke might be looked "weak" on paper...but if Young Boys can pull an upset
against us...let alone those teams.

not sure if you guys noticed we have only been scoring one goal in most of our past games this season... we have the sharpest knife in europe and yet we are mis-using him. allegri seems to be using mario mandzu as our focal point of attack it seems and his strike rate has improved alot compared to last year. however, a prolific mandzu is still not elite enough than a prolific ronaldo

allegri is great at winning, but mostly with a safety first defend 1 nil leads approach. With this sort of approach we are near untouchable in the league because the quality of opposition is low. In europe however, the ability to only score 1 goal and hope to defend deep and keep out the likes of messi, salah, neymar, mbappe is suicidal. In Europe, the best attack wins. if we face liverpool, we will need to try outscore them, same goes for if we face man city or psg. Why should we chicken out when we have the sharpest knife in europe? it is not as if we are still recovering from calciopli and has quags or matri in attack.. We are not too bad ourselves to have ronaldo, mandzu, dybala, douglas costa, berndeshi. Use ronaldo well and he alone is enough to score against any opposition in europe

i believe allegri is the perfect guy to win serie a, but to win europe, i feel we stand a better chance with zidane (our own legend) as our coach. The era of 1 nil wins is over.... i hope allegri and jose mourinho will one day wake up from this

This post has been edited by Jusstatic: Dec 14 2018, 01:54 PM

Even the commentator during the match said "Juventus, they create chances after chances after chances but they couldn't capitalize, in Europe u gotta take those
chances because if u r not, u'll come to regret it"...and indeed, it happened when Young Boys took a surprise 2-0 lead

this Juve team having the stats of 20 attempts on goal each match, but always ended with 1-0 scoreline...

and i agree with the point of having the likes of "Vucinic, Matri, Quagliarella leading the attack". Those are quality players, but they're nowhere near the caliber
of Juve current offensive line consisting of Ronaldo, Dybala, Mandzukic, Costa, Bernardeschi, Cuadrado...so these team struggling to score more that 1 or 2 goals
each match really baffled me.

a few months ago i said "imagine if the likes of Guardiola or Klopp getting their hands on this Juve team"

Haha why tag man utd here

Anyway i am done with this season

Top 5 out of reach already

Oops CR7 did it again with the disallowed Mandzukic goal vs Torino. I hope it's just his natural predatory strikers instinct.
Torino did give good fight, I think they might be just below Inter in term of quality.


it's not a secret anymore of how prolific CR7 is. So it's just natural for Max Allegri to add more dimention to the attack. Now Dybala looks to do more free-role while CR7 & mandzukic doing their business often seen switching left and right.

Juve has good forwards no doubt, but the defence, on their heydey can give good fight even to the best of forwards. unfortunately Chiello and Bonucci are not the fastest of sprinters so when Juve have a goal lead, the backline normally play lower down.

furthermore, juve have many matches to look forward to, so winning them is more importand than winning them in good margin.

tag man utd? you stalking this thread? hehe

mourinho was mentioned but I mentioned him as a manager and not man utd the club. anyway, you are welcomed here as a guest. we people here are friendly unless you come and talk thrash

i beg to differ. winning 1-0 and struggling through them shows that we have underlying problems that is waiting to be exposed eventually when we face a tougher team. Like i mentioned, we can scrap 1 nils and get away with it because we are facing the likes of genoa and torino. against a way better team we will be found wanting...

i predict we wont win UCL but will win Serie A and Coppa as usual. Hope Allegri can really prove me wrong in a good way

UCL draw tonight guys!

hopefully he'll proves US wrong. Bcos as the saying goes "win is still a win", seeing team like Juve playing safe to hold on a 1 goal lead are quite troublesome

Ajax
Atletico
Liverpool
Lyon
Schalke
Tottenham

on paper Liverpool looks like the toughest draw for us

but IMO all of the team above are tough in their own way

Atletico need no introduction. They're the Juve of Spain in term of playing style and scraping out result

Ajax are quite different compared to their last time playing in UCL, usually they crumble against another European giant
but this season they gave Bayern a run out of their money...and IMO was quite unlucky not to finished their group at #1

Lyon also has been improving in UCL. Beating City in their own backyard were no fluke

Tottenham would've unfinished business with Juve they way Juve kicked em out of UCL last season

Schalke look to be the "weakest" on paper. But heck, we learned about the "weakest" team in Group H against Young Boys last week

looking forward to the draw now

the three teams we need to avoid:

- liverpool - i am very sure we will win 1-0 in turin and then crumble 3-1 away at anfield. European football nowadays is about attack and the best attack wins. Gone are the 1 nil wins era and fact is there are not enough out of this world defenders to drown out top class attacks nowadays. While Chiellini is one of the best in europe, even him at his best was not as good as a madini or a barsei or a nesta or a cannavaro. If we have maldini, baresi, nesta, cannavara + a young buffon in defense then i wlll be confident we can shut out anyone, even a messi barca and a ronaldo real. Fact is we dont. on paper we have a better attack but on the field liverpool has a better attack than us. liverpool is currently a very dangerous team

- tottenham - is like a hybrid between a liverpool and us. they were so called "unluckily" "wrongly" knocked out by us last season hence will be extra motivated to put things right this time. so they will be dangerous

- atletico madrid - an even more boring version of us. like us, they are very very good at neutralizing dangerous and great at sitting a 1 nil lead. this tie might swing either way. it is either a 1 nil win over two legs for us or a 1 nil win for them over two legs. either way, this will be the anti-football matchup of the round.... had we finished second a man utd vs atletico tie will be labeled the same.. at this point in time, only man utd can lay claim to be even more boring than us and atletico minus the good results


as for the rest, anyone of lyon, scalke or ajax and i will be happy

This post has been edited by Jusstatic: Dec 17 2018, 03:20 PM

I just hope we met Liverpool so we could kick them out earlier and they could concentrate on winning EPL. They don't need it. Please concentrate on EPL.

Beside watching 2 undefeated league teams battling this early would be very enjoyable.

Good summary of the last 16 teams;
https://www.cbssports.com/soccer/news/champ...tus-at-the-top/



This post has been edited by zaidi: Dec 17 2018, 05:06 PM

haha anti football vs anti football it is

full draw

Man United vs PSG
Atletico vs Juventus
Tottenham vs Dortmund
Lyon vs Barcelona
Schalke vs Man City
Bayern vs Liverpool
Roma vs Porto
Ajax vs Real Madrid

Wow. This is interesting. I can't remember but have we played them recently?

yeap. Back in 2014/15 group stage

Atletico winning 1-0 in Spain while a 0-0 draw in Italy

atletico madrid...

I predict its either us or them to win 1 nil over two legs... or at most 2-1

Diego Godin is the only defender to be more on the winning side against a C Ronaldo team. He has also successfully prevented him from scoring more than any other defender in europe.... and that was the ronald that was at real scoring goals for fun... with us i would predict ronaldo will not score against atletico... probably a mandzu or a dybala goal to settle things