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post Jul 12 2019, 02:58 PM

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it's never too late for this hobby smile.gif

about longevity of legends, dye-sub pbt and double-shot abs/pbt should last like forever. well, you can pick the rest up at your own pace haha (e.g. profiles, thickness, etc)





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post Jul 12 2019, 06:26 PM

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QUOTE(MrGuinness @ Jul 12 2019, 01:52 PM)
Yeah, I guess I'm a bit late getting into the mkb scene.

I read about the legends wearing off Filco's Keycaps pretty quick, so in the end I'm glad to have a Varmilo, and being able to choose the colours for each key separately was the deciding point.
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post Jul 12 2019, 09:25 PM

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QUOTE(horns @ Jul 12 2019, 09:59 AM)
quovadis123 and GRexer. you can look for them at mymkb fb page, https://www.facebook.com/groups/MalaysiaMechanicalKeyboard/
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post Jul 13 2019, 12:55 PM

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QUOTE(FaezFarhan @ Jul 12 2019, 09:25 PM)
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post Jul 16 2019, 11:38 AM

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Hi guys, if I want to get a 65% keyboard with kailh box white switches, custom built is the only way to go?

Edit: Side question, my one year old Tecware Phantom RGB with oetemu blues have this issue whereby some keys register only like twice out of 5 presses, any method for me to fix it?

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post Jul 16 2019, 11:47 AM

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QUOTE(hooh888 @ Jul 16 2019, 11:38 AM)
Hi guys, if I want to get a 65% keyboard with kailh box white switches, custom built is the only way to go?

Edit: Side question, my one year old Tecware Phantom RGB with oetemu blues have this issue whereby some keys register only like twice out of 5 presses, any method for me to fix it?
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Haven't seen any 65% keyboard with Kailh Box switches being commercial available yet. Custom built unit seems to be the way to go. If you would like one built, drop me a PM?

As for your Tecware Phantom, switch chattering is usually a switch issue, you could just change it to a new switch, should have some spare switches in your Tecware box.
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post Jul 16 2019, 11:50 AM

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QUOTE(GRexer @ Jul 16 2019, 11:47 AM)
Haven't seen any 65% keyboard with Kailh Box switches being commercial available yet. Custom built unit seems to be the way to go. If you would like one built, drop me a PM?

As for your Tecware Phantom, switch chattering is usually a switch issue, you could just change it to a new switch, should have some spare switches in your Tecware box.
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Oh sure, but would you prefer to PM here or on facebook? I'm also in the mech keyboard group there and seen your name there a lot haha.

As for the Tecware Phantom issue, I will give that a try, thanks. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(hooh888 @ Jul 16 2019, 11:50 AM)
Oh sure, but would you prefer to PM here or on facebook? I'm also in the mech keyboard group there and seen your name there a lot haha.

As for the Tecware Phantom issue, I will give that a try, thanks.  biggrin.gif
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Prefer using Messenger (Facebook) since it's a lot more convenient to reply there. tongue.gif (Thanks for noticing me. blush.gif )

If you're into Photography and have a lens blower, you can try pumping a few times of air into the switch. Sometimes it could be dust causing problems with chattering too.
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post Jul 17 2019, 01:24 PM


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What would be the cheapest Cherry MX switch kb on market now?
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post Jul 17 2019, 02:43 PM

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The Keystone- a Magnetic Analog Mechanical Keyboard with AI-enabled Adaptive Typing[B]



The Input Club Keystone Mechanical Keyboard is an unparalleled leap forward in typing and gaming technology. It will launch on Kickstarter on July 16th, 2019 at 8 AM PST, at this link - http://kty.pe/keystone. The Keystone combines two new keyboard features - High Definition Analog Control and per-key fast Hall Effect (magnetic) sensing - for supreme performance. Our magnetic switch technology enables near-infinite customization, billion-press (Source: Honeywell Testing Article) durability (20x the industry standard), and analog control benefits for everyone. Full firmware programmability and RGB lighting round out its features.

This project is the future of mechanical keyboards. We believe that there is more to the main tool everyone uses for work, playing games, and connecting with others. Input Club is a group of engineers and designers who drive innovation in the field of input devices. The team formed in 2014 because there was very little innovation in the keyboard space. Our team has developed special mechanical keyswitches, open source keyboard firmware, and some of the more iconic keyboard designs to hit the marketplace. The Keystone is the next technological lead forward for keyboards - it is our flagship keyboard showcasing the best and most sought after features in a keyboard.

The Keystone brings novel features together to continue pushing keyboard invention further- with its SILO Hall Effect and High Definition Analog Switches. These are both keyboard switch technologies that have been produced in the past, separately, but this implementation takes them to the next level. With Hall Effect switches, instead of relying on a bending piece of metal for actuation, your keyboard tracks the movement of a magnet. This allows you to change when and where the keyboard receives the signal, while also providing a billion press switch lifespan that simply cannot be competed with.

We designed much of the functionality for Keystone around the high performance needs of the people toughest on their keyboards - eSports players. Modern gaming is dominated by the desktop, and the keyboard is the most important variable in the perfect gear setup. With Analog functionality, every key can do multiple actions with a single press on a hardware level. A half press can be a lowercase letter and a full press can be an uppercase letter - allowing for intuitive typing that is much faster than the current style.

The prime feature we are able to achieve with Analog sensing is Adaptive Typing - a way to use artificial intelligence and machine learning to let your keyboard change to learn the "intent" of your individual typing style. If you don't press as hard with your pinky fingers as you do with your index fingers, your keyboard will automatically make those keys take less force to actuate, resulting in a more comfortable typing experience.

The Keystone is the beginning of a platform for keyboards that if successful, will completely replace every typing instrument everywhere. By combining modern software with the most advanced switch mechanism ever released - the Keystone is able to earn its spot as a keyboard worth writing about.


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https://www.techpowerup.com/257434/the-keys...adaptive-typing


AI... keyboard? ohmy.gif hope they don't mean keylogger capability sweat.gif

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post Jul 17 2019, 02:52 PM

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ergonomic mkb anyone? it cost a bomb though >_>:

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Kinesis Gaming Rolls Out the Freestyle Edge RGB Split Mechanical Keyboard


Kinesis Gaming Rolls Out the Freestyle Edge RGB Split Mechanical Keyboard



Kinesis Gaming is a new entrant in the ergonomic gaming hardware market, and launched the first of its two debut products, the Freestyle Edge RGB split mechanical keyboard (the other being the Vektor mouse). The keyboard features a tenkeyless layout that's split vertically along the middle, with a 6-inch cable connecting the two halves. An internal compartment located at the top lets you wind in excess cable. This split allows you to angle the two halves apart to better align with your hands, and minimize strain on your wrists. Adding to the ergonomics of the Freestyle Edge RGB are its soft-touch wrist-rests.

It may be a TKL keyboard, but the Freestyle Edge RGB comes with 10 macro keys along the edge of the left half. You can remap every other key and build macros of your own with the included software. There are 99 keys and buttons on this keyboard. Its electronics offers full NKRO and a Game Mode, with 1 ms response time, and 100% anti-ghosting. An onboard 4 MB memory stores your macro- and lighting-profiles locally. The keyboard offers full RGB LED lighting across a 16.8 million-color palette, and lets you configure lighting and profiles via software. Among the mechanical switch options are Cherry MX Red, MX Blue, and MX Brown. All three variants are priced at USD $219.99  shocking.gif .


https://www.techpowerup.com/257413/kinesis-...anical-keyboard



there was an older version of this NON RGB that linus reviewed if you are curious. maybe the new model version has more different things other than just RGB perhaps? hmm.gif by the way it's funny cause, linus mentioned the high price tag and it's not an RGB even. Then a year later they come out with a revised model with RGB? woooot laugh.gif


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post Jul 17 2019, 06:31 PM

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Hi all,

Need your opinion. Is Logitech G910 Spectrum any good for typing? How is it compared to Filco?

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post Jul 17 2019, 11:59 PM

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QUOTE(UnderTheSun @ Jul 17 2019, 06:31 PM)
Hi all,

Need your opinion. Is Logitech G910 Spectrum any good for typing? How is it compared to Filco?
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Filco best OEM with costar stab. Only custom better than filco.
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post Jul 18 2019, 12:45 AM

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QUOTE(Moogle Stiltzkin @ Jul 17 2019, 02:43 PM)
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https://www.techpowerup.com/257434/the-keys...adaptive-typing
AI... keyboard?  ohmy.gif hope they don't mean keylogger capability  sweat.gif
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lol! i guess they really think hard to make a keyboard to be self-adaptive to each individual. however keystone might be more useful for professionals.

QUOTE(UnderTheSun @ Jul 17 2019, 06:31 PM)
Hi all,

Need your opinion. Is Logitech G910 Spectrum any good for typing? How is it compared to Filco?
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it depends on your preference. if you liked tactile switches, it might be ok.

compared to filco, the obvious difference imo is filco uses costar stabilizers for large keys. in terms of commercial boards, large keys usually feel better with costar stabilizers than cherry style stabilizers. additionally, costar stabilizers can be maintained or replaced easily.
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post Jul 22 2019, 01:25 AM

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here are some tips about screws. you might need these basics to find replacement screws for your mechanical keyboards.

note that philip head screws work fine. however, they are relatively vulnerable to stripping. this is fairly common especially when you use smaller screwdriver bits for screw heads.

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edit:

there are little details here and there about compatible driver sets and all, but they can usually be found at the page of the screws that you wanna get. for instance, hex screws use allen keys, with typical sets having the smallest size of 1.5. usually, for m2 screws, all you need is 1.5 (the driver size). however some screw heads of m2 screws require the smaller 1.3. they can be found at taobao also.

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post Jul 22 2019, 09:59 AM

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Hi, I am thinking to get my first keyboard. Previously was looking at filco brand but did not pull the trigger. However, upon reading this thread, it seems like it has exited Malaysia market. May I know what is the alternative for this brand? Or am I better off getting a custom board instead?
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post Jul 23 2019, 08:59 AM

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QUOTE(Fantasia @ Jul 22 2019, 09:59 AM)
Hi, I am thinking to get my first keyboard. Previously was looking at filco brand but did not pull the trigger. However, upon reading this thread, it seems like it has exited Malaysia market. May I know what is the alternative for this brand? Or am I better off getting a custom board instead?
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firstly whats your budget?

did you look at the mechanical switches available? red, blue, black, brown etc.

mx Black is least popular, because it's tiring to actuate (press).

mx blue are known to have a distinctive type writer clicking noise. Steer clear if you hate that sort of thing.

mx brown is my favourite. it's tactile non linear. you can feel it actuate when you press on it since it has a feedback bump response.

mx red is very soft to depress, linear. lots of gamers seem to like it.

there are probably a lot more these days (i haven't been keeping up to date).


then there are other consideration. Do you want that RGB led lighting bling on the keyboard keycaps? or would you rather have the standard NON lit keycaps but with better contrast like doubleshot or dye sublimated keycaps (these tend to add to the expense).


if you are on a tight budget, then all you really need is just to ensure it has mechanical switches, that's it. mx cherry corp switches are popular ^^; last i checked. with this kind of low budget mkb, the downside is usually that the keycap print may easily wear off. with a higher budget you can get a mkb with better durable keycaps that don't wear out that much.

my doubleshots/dye sublimated keycaps have high contrast same like the day i first got them. the only changes is the shine effect due to typing on it so much over the years. but i'm hardly bothered by this.

maybe the others can recommend a brand or specific mkb for you? i personally went with a ducky keyboard since at the time they offered a good mkb at a good decent price point.

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QUOTE(Moogle Stiltzkin @ Jul 23 2019, 08:59 AM)
firstly whats your budget?

did you look at the mechanical switches available? red, blue, black, brown etc.

mx Black is least popular, because it's tiring to actuate (press).

mx blue are known to have a distinctive type writer clicking noise. Steer clear if you hate that sort of thing.

mx brown is my favourite. it's tactile non linear. you can feel it actuate when you press on it since it has a feedback bump response.

mx red is very soft to depress, linear. lots of gamers seem to like it.

there are probably a lot more these days (i haven't been keeping up to date).
then there are other consideration. Do you want that RGB led lighting bling on the keyboard keycaps? or would you rather have the standard NON lit keycaps but with better contrast like doubleshot or dye sublimated keycaps (these tend to add to the expense).
if you are on a tight budget, then all you really need is just to ensure it has mechanical switches, that's it. mx cherry corp switches are popular ^^; last i checked. with this kind of low budget mkb, the downside is usually that the keycap print may easily wear off. with a higher budget you can get a mkb with better durable keycaps that don't wear out that much.

my doubleshots/dye sublimated keycaps have high contrast same like the day i first got them. the only changes is the shine effect due to typing on it so much over the years. but i'm hardly bothered by this.

maybe the others can recommend a brand or specific mkb for you? i personally went with a ducky keyboard since at the time they offered a good mkb at a good decent price point.
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I am looking for brown switch. as for back lit, it is good to have but not essential. budget less than 500? of course it would be better if it is lower. i have heard of ducky before, but i think filco has better quality if i am not mistaken.
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Just ordered Corsair K68 RGB in shopee for about 350...

Never try Corsair keyboard before...
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QUOTE(cyclone2 @ Jul 23 2019, 03:57 PM)
Just ordered Corsair K68 RGB in shopee for about 350...

Never try Corsair keyboard before...
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