i have explained this before....

based on the pattern of matching, it appears that pms have to take a spectrum of students within their allocation...this is to balance out the students, to avoid a situation where the popular uni chooses all the good students and the weak ones get dumped in unpopular ones....

eg, if edinburgh takes 4 students from a batch, they cannot choose all from the top, but maybe have to choose 2 from the top half, and 2 from the bottom half...

that is why strange situations exist commonly where better students' top choice is not matched, but weaker students got matched instead..

note that, despite differences in presumed prestige of some uk med schools, there is actually little difference in the 'difficulty' of the respective universities....

therefore it is a mistake to think edinburgh would be tougher than liverpool or leeds or hull-york, for eg.....

the hallmark of developed countries' education is they tend to be pretty consistent in quality.....

This post has been edited by limeuu: May 14 2012, 10:45 PM

i thought you are already in imu-pms?.....shouldn't you be well aware about all these things?....

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Added on May 15, 2012, 12:58 pmi was referring to the actual course itself......

there is a significant difference however, in getting into med school....some unis are more selective, and thus more difficult to get in.....eg would be oxbridge, ucl, imperial.....

also, since different unis emphasise on different aspects of the selection process, it is common for one to get rejected from one, and offered from another, and the reverse for another student....therefore, it does help to know what each uni emphasise on, and apply to those which matches one's strong points.....

nevertheless, common across all med schools in uk, successful candidates will be having straight a's, good scores in ukcak/bmat, and good track record of health related volunteer work.....

however, do note that many unis have an affirmative action programme, where specified disadvantaged students may be admitted with lower results.....this is of course limited to home students only....

This post has been edited by limeuu: Jun 3 2012, 06:25 PM

i think the reversal of ratio is more due to contracting pms places....there used to be 150 places, now it appears there are less than 100.....

popular unis will get the best students, but will also need to take some of the lower ranked students as well....unpopular ones will never have top students ranking them high, hence will not get top students....

no matter what barriers the unis put in your way, the eventual number/percentage of failures are remarkably consistent across all the med schools....so as long as one keeps up with work, and stay off the bottom 10%, one should be fine....

the number of medical graduates have increased due to new medical schools, and larger intakes, just like in oz, and there is coming, a time when the same shortage of f1 positions will exist, just as in oz.....

it is very clearly stated in the imu website, that one of the minimum qualification accepted is a bsc 2nd upper honours degree or cgpa 3.3 (out of 4)....

whether one can get an offer of course depends on other things, like the quality of the applying cohort, interview, funds etc....no one here can answer that, therefore, just give them a call lah....

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Added on June 7, 2012, 4:29 pmare you serious?.....

msia trumps uk/oz in poor planning.....the increase in medical graduates in msia is much bigger and more unplanned.....it's only the elastic jpa that absorb all of them.....irrespective of whether it is possible to supervise/train/retrain them all in existing hospitals.....

This post has been edited by limeuu: Jun 7 2012, 04:29 PM

from the top of my head, there is a 50% increase in graduating numbers from before the latest wave of new med schools..... so i think it is safe to say it was about 4k/year at the turn of the millennium, and now more than 6k.....

what's with people being unable to read?.....

i just said a few posts above, they want a 2nd upper of cgpa 3.33/4 in a science degree....

it's all in their website...aiyo.....

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many people would welcome the short gap to do things they have always wanted to do...and i know people who purposely choose such choices so they can have the 1/2 year off....

if matched to uk, you will be enrolled in a uk uni, and graduate with the pms degree.....

at this point, international students in uk unis are not considered img, but 'home students'.....with current numbers, there will be enough f1 places for all uk graduates at least for 2013....

the new points system does NOT take into account nationality.....and f1 doctors get 'automatic' extension of their tier 4 visa for the f1 and f2 years, so there is no immigration issue, at least for f1/f2....

subsequently, if matched into a postgraduate rotation, then one normally will be granted a tier 2 visa....

after 5 years, one can apply for an ilr....

this is msia, so don't expect too much....there are the usual activities and parties, but the boozing you will have to do on your own elsewhere....

imu does not have a 'campus'......

all it is, is a converted shopping centre....one single building.....

i do not normally entertain pm's.....

going to have a look at the 'campus' is strongly recommended....

of course.....you can do that in your own time, in you own apartment with your own friends...

2 weeks of stuffs....seems quite enjoyable...

like all aussie social life, it revolves around alcohol....and they can get really pissed drunk....

the cut off for the pms stream now is 95.......limited places and very popular....

the pms undergraduate stream has now about 100 places....but they take in 120 or so, knowing about 20+% normally flunk out or repeat semester(s).....there are about 30-40 places for the pms graduate stream.....but not popular....

the imu local stream has license for 150 per batch i think, or a total of 300 a year.....

the pms undergraduate stream is the most popular and heavily subscribed, thus raising the minimum cut off.....with so many students with a* grades nowadays, aab may NOT make it anymore......

as an indication, while just 4 years ago, atar 91 will get in, but this year, the cut off was 95......(atar 95 is about a levels a*a*a equivalent)......

This post has been edited by limeuu: Sep 29 2012, 11:15 PM

it should be noted that there are 2 groups of med school in uk.....the ones which still charge normal fees for the pre-clinical years.....and the ones which now charge full clinical fees for the whole 5 years....

for the former, at about gbp15k/year for 2 years, it works out actually cheaper, gbp30k or rm150k, compared to imu's 40k X 5 semesters=rm200k......

however, for the later group, at full clinical fees of average 26k/year, it works out more expensive at rm260k......

the clinical component is the same for both pathways.....

interestingly, even the living expenses are not that much different.....in some cheap cities, one can live simply for 400quid/mth all inclusive, which isn't much more than living in kl....

in some cities, rentals can be as low as 50 quid a week, or just over 200 a month, plus utilities.....

if you buy food and cook, you can do with 20 quid a week shopping....food is generally cheaper in uk than oz.....

if you want to eat out everyday, then i suppose if that is your priority, stay in msia.....