the number of pms seats is tailored to the number of pms matches available...they do take in more than available places, but about 20% will drop out/flunk out...and all students standing at the end of sem 5 WILL get a match.....

you can opt to transfer from pms stream to local....a few did that before (usually financial reasons).....

you cannot transfer from local to pms.....

for clarification about their local stream cut off, would you mind giving us your entry qualifications?....if you don't want to display your results here, pm me.....

thanks.....

it is illuminating, the very fact that at this late stage, they are still accepting fresh applications.....

thanks for your candour.....while bbb is the minimum, the cut off is higher than that for many years.....

this issue about recognition of professional qualifications has been discussed in this and other threads extensively in the past....in a nutshell, countries do not recognise degrees if they think the quality of graduates are not even and consistent, due to lax selection/poor teaching/lax asessments.....if you allow me equal candour, abb will NOT get you any place in uk/oz med schools.......therefore they view any med schools taking in such students with suspicion....

be very clear about this....the imu mbbs is only recognised in msia and sri lanka..........therefore you CANNOT register and hence cannot work in any other countries.....including singapore....

if you still want to, then there will usually be some exams you will have to take and pass, to make you registrable....the process is long, difficult and expensive, and few would bother.....so realistically, you will be tying yourself to msia, if you continue.....the 'go abroad' option is absent.......it is NOT something you can decide later.....

if you want to keep that option open, you will need to have a qualification that is more widely recognised.....hence the popularity of the pms stream....

This post has been edited by limeuu: Feb 6 2012, 12:51 AM

you don't do 'specialisation' (postgraduate training) in a university in most english speaking countries....'not recognised' means by the respective medical councils lah....duh....

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Added on February 6, 2012, 9:48 amthat is true of any non-recognised basic qualification.....not just imu mbbs..........a recognised post graduate qualification allows one conditional registration by smc......

This post has been edited by limeuu: Feb 6 2012, 09:48 AM

you didn't do your research BEFORE embarking on the course?.....

i think people should realistically accept that if they embark on a local msian degree programme, they are going to be staying on and working in msia for good.....believe me, after a few years working, getting married, the first kid arrives.....you will not have any more thoughts about sitting for exams and starting at the bottom of the ladder in another country again.....

if there is any thought of venturing out of msia to work, then get a degree with wider recognition from the word go.....

This post has been edited by limeuu: Feb 6 2012, 02:33 PM

these courses usually will NOT confer you recognition by mdc as a specialist.....

many examples exists in medicine as well....eg, getting a diploma of dermatology from some where will NOT allow you to be registered with the nsr....

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Added on February 6, 2012, 4:12 pmi will be blunt here...for the majority of students enrolled in ipts medical and dental programmes (and this includes imu-pms and monash sunway), even if they have money, they will NOT be able to qualify directly into oz/uk medical or dental schools.....

This post has been edited by limeuu: Feb 6 2012, 05:58 PM

there are never any 'credit transfers' for partly done medical courses by any respectable unis.....

however, there are several full phase 1/preclinical credit transfers arrangements, imu-pms being one of them.....others include uni brunei, and a uni in egypt with manchester.....

the difference between imu-pms to uk, and direct entry, in terms of total fees, can be small or even cheaper in uk.....eg, 5 sems at imu is rm200k, or 40k pounds......whereas 1st 2 years pre-clinical in most uk med schools is less than 20k pounds a year.....

not necessarily....the pms programme is now very popular, and limited in places, so the cut off has increased.....

i thought conditional offers are given AFTER interviews.....so all you need is get that minimum result?....

aab is about equivalent to atar 80 only, so it is rather low, seeing they want atar95 for sam/ausmat.....

about 17% of all a levels students sitting for the uk boards exams (cie and edexel are 2 of them) will get aaa........therefore anyone with aaa will be in the top 17% of the student cohort....in the australian atar system, that represents any atar above 83..........

about 4% gets a*a*a*......ie that is atar96 and above......

hence, it is very obvious that it is easier to get into many courses with a levels than an oz year 12 qualification....because they may only want aaa.....which if you have done the oz system, may be atar83, but with 83, you will not even be allowed to apply!.........

p/s....from liberal arts to medicine?.....

This post has been edited by limeuu: Mar 11 2012, 02:19 PM

too many....

more than that....

after the imposition of minimum qualification by mmc, all ipts med schools have started their own 'foundation' programmes to feed students into their programme.....

imu have outsourced their foundation programme to kdu....

my bad, typo error, it is kbu....

100 pms undergraduate
50 pms graduate
100 local

but i suspect they actually take in more than that, as about 20% will drop out....i know some batches with 120+ pms undergraduate....

it varies from uni to uni, and from year to year.....as few as 2-3/year to as many as 16-20 a year

i am not surprised...

looks like the number of places available have dropped....and 2 of the pms will likely never have any takers...the sydney and melbourne options...

and graduate entry pathway has never been very popular with msians anyway.....so i can understand it being under subscribed...before they make people decide at application, it was an option for all pms stream students, and some choose that pathway when then did not get pms they prefer....

like i said, most of imu-pms students will not get direct entry into the unis they are matched to.......

and the matching process is very opaque....

and 'top' unis like edinburgh will also have to take some weaker students....they are not allowed to only select the best....