the graduate entry-pms pathway, for most of the pms, does not necessarily require you to be a mature student (ie have already a degree) on entry.....most still need you to do the extra 1 year for the bmedsc(imu).....some even if you already have another degree......

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Added on October 6, 2010, 7:35 pmit makes no difference for the local stream students.........

but is means the pms stream students will need to pay an additional rm25k for phase 1.......and they will not be around to enjoy the 25k reduction in phase 2...........imu earns more.....

This post has been edited by limeuu: Oct 6 2010, 07:35 PM

what did you do for entry into the 1st degree?........

by that i infer either one or more of the following....

1. you did not do a science based pre-u

2. you did, but did not meet the cutoff

3. you did not do a science based 1st degree (although one could argue IT is somewhat 'science based')

4. you did, but did not meet the minimum cgpa of 3.5

This post has been edited by limeuu: Oct 7 2010, 12:35 PM

then you are stuck.....you will need good foundation and results in chemistry (+/_ biology)........

i am against the 'passion' ('higher calling') type of entry into medicine.....and like i always said many time before, nobody without straight a's in spm should consider doing medicine......

that is just my personal opinion of course, and in real life, even arts stream students gets into some med schools.....

but my opinion obviously resonates with many countries.....just look at how uk/oz/usa selects their med students.....

that is very early.....lucky 2/08.......1/08 was severely delayed, and very 'non-conforming' with their stated matching principles......people who have failed tests still get matched over those with better results......there is obviously a system of 'spreading' the good and not so good students so not all good students get to popular ones, and the unpopular ones getting the crumbs.....

exactly........

i think what they do is, split the class into 2 broad groups.....so if pmr X has 4 places, they will select 2 from the top half and 2 from the bottom half.....

therefore, the top AND the average (ie tops of the lower half) gets their choices.......the hardest hit are those in the bottom half of the top band (still very good students)......it sucks having to loose all your choices to the average students........

joining the next batch would suggest uk/irish med school.......

changing streams used to be an issue both ways.......as spaces are limited also in the seremban stream......

the places have now increased from 50 to 100 per batch (ie 200/year) so it is easy to switch from pms to local.....however, the other direction will remain verboten as the pms places are very restricted, and may shrink, as uwa goes postgraduate, and nz quit from the partnership......

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Added on October 31, 2010, 8:54 pmsince when has notts and glasgow become premier med schools allowing them to choose the top students only?.......melbourne and edinburgh i can understand.....


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"[quote=limeuu,Oct 31 2010, 08:50 PM]
changing streams used to be an issue both ways.......as spaces are limited also in the seremban stream......

the places have now increased from 50 to 100 per batch (ie 200/year) so it is easy to switch from pms to local.....however, the other direction will remain verboten as the pms places are very restricted, and may shrink, as uwa goes postgraduate, and nz quit from the partnership......"
Policy is not static lar. Change whenever and wherever necessary.

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the number of places allowed is regulated by the mohe, under preview of the regulatory body mmc which recognises the qualification..........not at the whims and fancy of the uni........

the whims and fancy comes before that, when new med school is approved by the minister of education........

imu's reputation is purely based on the pms stream (aka backdoor entry into western med schools with some cost savings)........the local stream will be like all the other ipts med schools.....except they have some senior well qualified clinicians on their faculty.....

This post has been edited by limeuu: Dec 4 2010, 02:51 PM

if you are not there yet, means you have been matched to either dundee, aberdeen or notts..........

may be a new rule next year, but NOT required as per the cas document at this point.........

actually, if you read the ukba guidelines carefully, they do NOT require it since it's a level 6 study, but the uni may, as part of the cas documentation........

this case emphasises a problem i have highlighted many years ago, but which was severely flammed by some forumers.....

that is, you will generally be branded and judged by the institution you trained in........

we all know melbourne u selects their med students VERY carefully, and so if one comes across a medical graduate from melbourne, one will immediately know this is a well trained and knowledgeable doctor (note this does NOT mean he is a 'good' doctor).........

on the other hand, we all know that many med schools will accept anyone as long as you pay money.....it used to be india, now it's russia......

so automatically, when one comes across a doctor from russia, the first question that enters one's mind is.....did he buy his degree, or is he a deserving and competent graduate..........he is be automatically branded as suspect till proven otherwise.....

the biblical saying is very true.....as you sow, so you will reap.....as you select your med students, so you will determine the quality of your doctors.....

imu wants ielts.........

mohe wants muet.......

so need both

apply now.......

you do NOT choose where you will be matched to......you rank ALL the pds, and see what the computer matches you to at the end......

officially, it's based on a points based algorithm with your ranking of the uni weightage 5 times that of the uni's ranking of you (which is generally based on merit).........

in reality, to 'even out' the allocations to avoid good students crowding in popular/top unis and poor students going to unpopular ones, there is 'engineering' of the matching, so there is a more even spread...........which means some 'lucky' student with lower results can be assigned to top unis, over better students, even if both rank that uni the same.........ie, not based purely on the points only......

students rank all the pds, based on their preference........usually the top 20% students gets their 1st choice.........others get something lower down, even 5th or 6th......for medicine even 10th or 12th choice......

canada does not allow imu students to do their internship there......you will need to go to the us.......

if your intention is to eventually go to us for work and training, then you can do so from anywhere in the world......you just need to have the usmle step 1 and 2..........

there is nothing wrong with imu's website.....the problem is with people with internet access and who don't know how to use it productively......

nottingham should also be popular, since it's 2 1/2 years, save 1/2 years fees....

it only really matters for m2 batch, not the m1 batch........those going to aberdeen/dundee/notts will graduate 1 year ahead of their friends going to the rest of the uk unis.........

you are still guaranteed the 2 fy's there.......after which, depends on how well you did........top students, with good testimonials from their 2 fy years have no problem getting rotations after, even in popular specialities........

at least better than oz, where there may be no houseman jobs for foreigners in the future..............

admin staff as in admin imu?.........don't think they actually know the real situation in uk.........

like i said, 2 foundation years post graduation is guaranteed........unless of course you want to go elsewhere........