EOS2 result just out today
i passed
but there're 48 out of 225 failed
bout 21% la

So its a repeating trend then.

standard imu SOP........

at least they are tight with their assessments, after being loose with their selection.........unlike some other schools.......the thing about imu is, they are relatively transparent, due to the requirements of the pms.........

Hi all,

I am asking on behalf of my brother.
My brother just finish gov matriculation with cgpa 3.86 and he scare unable to get public U.
Hence, he is thinking on applying to IMU n now received the offer from IMU for Bachelor of Pharmacy...so i would like to ask anyone from Bachelor Pharmacy course?

-How is the study enviroment?stress?
-How is the class failing rate?high? alots of student retaking?

I saw some comment saying tat many students retaking but i not sure which course it refering.

Thank you

*** they have to be strict with the quality of students going to pms....the standards are set by the respective pms, not imu........and generally, standards are lower in local med schools than the 1st world..


I am a graduate of IMU and I think the above statement is definitely incorrect and offensive.

IMHO, the only thing different of those going PMS and local is the financial status after they completed their study.

I strongly advise those interest to study at IMU, pls visit the website and visit the schools.

yup some ppl came IMU just because it's the only private medical school they've heard before they entered IMU

i said generally......and did not specifically say anything about mbbs (imu).......

the calibre of students taken in generally will determine the quality of products of the med school.......it is not a perfect correlation of course, there are exceptions........but the fact remains.........

i know the arguments this is going to spur forth, but try understand this simple axiom: the exceptions cannot be extrapolated to apply to, and justify the general.......

This post has been edited by limeuu: Jun 15 2008, 06:36 PM

Hah, dun bother. He's just a jobless guy who claims to be a doctor/health director. Last time when i asked him where he graduated, he didn't even have the guts to answer.

This post has been edited by hypermax: Jun 18 2008, 05:42 PM

that is a seriously delayed patello-spino-quadratus reaction.......

what's patello-spino-quadratus reaction???

you should know if you are a medical student........

Uttering some medical terms here doesn't prove you are a doc/medical student.
Just be bold and tell us where you graduated from.

I am not a medical student, but I know:

Patello= knee/kneecap
spino= spine
quadratus = square in shape

I can make a educated guess.

This coming from someone who is a 5th(?) year medical student fromMelaka-Manipal, "which was the cheapest local school recognized by Malaysia".

And who once said that "Sechenov Moscow Medical Academy is indeed ranked as 2nd best medical school in the world".

After haunting the "CALLING MEDICAL STUDENTS" thread, you come here.

Oh man, Someone is stalking me.
Anyway, let me clear things up.
Melaka-Manipal was the cheapest local private medical school recognized by LAN back in 2004. AIMST was cheaper but wasn't recognized by LAN. ( I forgot to add the word 'private' back then. But most would know what i was talking about )

As for the Sechenov Moscow Medical Academy, i made that statement with reference to it's own web site here.

I was only giving my opinion in the CALLING MEDICAL STUDENTS thread. i was only stating that SPM result isn't important for determining the capability of a student but pre-u result is. That's haunting for you??

The great limeuu has been bashing local private Us and Russian Us for sometime. SO i think it's only appropriate for him to tell from which prestigious school he graduated from that gives him all the rights to bash the others.

As for you, who is neither a medical student nor a doctor, had posted numerous nonconstructive criticism and opinion in all the threads meant for medical students and docs. Now, who's haunting the thread?

This post has been edited by hypermax: Jun 19 2008, 12:55 PM

Not stalking. All information very publicly available in the internet. Just because someone links them together makes one a stalker. Amazing logic you have.

Medical and cheap do not go hand in hand. The fact still remains, the intake of Melaka-Manipal and AIMST is dubious. You, as a Manipal student, may think it is good, and indeed, some will be good, but you cannot use an outlier to justify the trend.

And in the same thread I said I did not find anything about UNESCO ever ranking universities, nor is UNESCO in the business of ranking universities. That's like me giving my ranking of universities; no basis whatsoever.

In the same thread you said:
How do you come to the conclusion that SAM TER 93 = A level 3As = Canadian Pre U >95? Or is this "what you think"? In anycase, the fact remains, the last playing LEVEL field for students is SPM, as most of them will go on to do the endless number of alternative pre-u qualifications out there. I agree that one should not take SPM has an indicator of one's academic ability, but it should be seen TOGETHER with the SAM/CPU/A level results.

Frankly, I don't care where Limeuu, or anyone else for that matter, graduated from. The fact remains, he did some have some valid points, and you didn't have a counter argument, so instead of responding with facts, you keep shouting "where did [limeuu] graduate from?", as if graduating from a "prestigious school" gives anyone the right to "bashing local private Us and Russian Us".

So what if he is a Russian graduate and was disillusioned by what he saw? Does that give more weight to his words? If he is a medical graduate from Stanford University that is meaningless, as medical schools are not in the process of making one "the best" doctors, but as many competent doctors as they can.

Also:
How do we know you are truly from Manipal? For all we know you could be a casing seller who just happens to know something medical, since "Anyone can be a master at anything just by gathering info from the net."

I rest my case.

Well, you actually go all the way to find my posts. Do you have to go so far just to counter someone who you think is not worthy to debate with?
Also, to dig up something which i have posted many moons ago.... dude, why now? You should have countered me back then.


Intake of Melaka-Manipal and AIMST is dubious?? May i know where's the basis to this statement? In the end, you are just another superficial idiot who likes to bash others without any basis.
Also, i din say Manipal is the best. I did SAM, so the only option for me back then was to join a private medical school. You expect me to join local public U with SAM? Amazing logic you have.


Well, i didn't say you were wrong. I was simply pointing out what is written on the web site. Pls, dun be so sensitive.
If you are not happy with what i had said back then, why didn't you counter me? Why now??
Btw, i can't seem to find your post anywhere in that thread. However, it was limeuu who said he can't find anything about UNESCO ranking. Proof here. Are you limeuu's duplicate account or altered ego?


Dude, come on, you should have posted this in the thread back then, not here. This thread is meant for IMU for heaven's sake. Oh man, that is a seriously delayed patello-spino-quadratus reaction.
Btw, the marking scheme of SPM is dubious. This is a well known fact.


So, let me ask, how can someone who is neither a medical student nor a doc judge whether a medical school produces competent doctors? It takes a panel of medical experts to do that. So, i was only asking whether he's qualified enough to judge.
Same logic applies, can a doctor judge whether a particular IT school produces competent software engineers?


OMG, you even know i am into casing modding?? Wow, isn't that a stalker or what?
Haha, well well well. You seriously are an idiot, aren't you? If i wanna fake, why dun i say i am from UM, Harvard or some other Western Us? After all, Manipal is still not as pretigious as those mentioned.

After a brief reading through all your posts, you seem to be an old timer who likes bashing others just to make yourself look good. This is not the attitude for intelligent discussion in the forum.

Also, pls Quit being so emo dude. It's bad for health.

This post has been edited by hypermax: Jun 19 2008, 11:12 PM

i thought haya is a student in oz?........

geez.... can't someone just let this discussion go already? It doesn't matter where a doctor graduate from. It doesn't matter how they choose their medical student. At the end of the day, what I, and everyone, would like to see is safe, competent doctors doing their jobs....

Medical school teach one how to pass and become a doctor. House officer learnt how to be an office boy in the hospital. One start to learn to be a doctor after their house job

Not sure about that. But from what he posted, he sounded like an old timer.

here
here

Opps, now i have become a stalker.

Finally, someone understands what i am trying to convey all this while.

To haya,
I actually find it funny for you to counter my statement now which i made few months ago. Dude, why now? Why not back then? It took you so long to cook up a proper argument?

This post has been edited by hypermax: Jun 19 2008, 11:11 PM

qut

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/622683