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post May 5 2007, 10:48 AM

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QUOTE(Soulsareworthless @ May 5 2007, 10:41 AM)
Without the Galactico policy the both of us would just be another two ordinary EPL fans brainwashed by the Malaysian media.


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Not really. The Galactico tag came with Zidane not with Figo. Either way even in Figo was my fav player back then i wouldn't have supported Barca. I still believe i would have found my way to Real Madrid. smile.gif
The player that really sealed my heart to the club was Di Stefano after all. And that was just based on what i've read of him. Sometimes i wish i could have seen him play live in action...but i don't want to be so old as well haha...Guess you can't have everything in life
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QUOTE(Duke Red @ May 5 2007, 10:39 AM)
Does anyone smell the stench of a glory hunter here?
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Hell yeah.....

Dukie... you are dead wrong where Man Utd fans have not gone through hard times. I grew up amongst Liverpool glory hunters of the 70s and 80s. Man Utd was deprieved of league glory... only the occasional FA Cup epic triumphs and heartache.... Now my Man Utd have matured and have become successful, I would dearly love to seek out those so called Pool fans and boast... alas they are no more... Pool of old Bill Shankly... not my time..Bob Paisley are by far the one of greatest in English Football history, dominated everything, but I remain Man Utd faithful since their FA Cup loss to Southampton.... bigger heartache when they lost FA Cup to Arsenal 3-2 after coming back from 2 goals down only to lose after Gordon McQueen was sent off. Legends of Man Utd of old Alex Stepney, Joe Jordan, Lou Macari, Greenhorf Brothers, Coppell were the first names I know, their history would have been greater if not for Munich air disaster, a generation of great players perished in a blink of an eye, but like a phoenix, Manchester United rose from the ashes of destruction to greatness under Sir Matt Busby, unmatched till the unimitable Sir Alex Ferguson. Manchester United Forever.
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post May 5 2007, 10:53 AM

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oh boy, u guys can wrote out a lot abt ur love of ur club, but frankly speaking, i juz can't. i can't give out any concrete reason on 'why' i love them. blush.gif


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QUOTE(Grengo01 @ May 5 2007, 10:50 AM)
Dukie... you are dead wrong where Man Utd fans have not gone through hard times. I grew up amongst Liverpool glory hunters of the 70s and 80s. Man Utd was deprieved of league glory... only the occasional FA Cup epic triumphs and heartache.... Now my Man Utd have matured and have become successful, I would dearly love to seek out those so called Pool fans and boast... alas they are no more... Pool of old Bill Shankly... not my time..Bob Paisley are by far the one of greatest in English Football history, dominated everything, but I remain Man Utd faithful since their FA Cup loss to Southampton.... bigger heartache when they lost FA Cup to Arsenal 3-2 after coming back from 2 goals down only to lose after Gordon McQueen was sent off. Legends of Man Utd of old Alex Stepney, Joe Jordan, Lou Macari, Greenhorf Brothers, Coppell were the first names I know, their history would have been greater if not for Munich air disaster, a generation of great players perished in a blink of an eye, but like a phoenix, Manchester United rose from the ashes of destruction to greatness under Sir Matt Busby, unmatched till the unimitable Sir Alex Ferguson. Manchester United Forever.
Which is why I said most of your fans have no idea because a vast majority have only begun supporting after the EPL was established. In any case, Man Utd have always been on the ascendancy, with the exception of being relegated by Man City of course.

What constitutes a glory hunter anyway? You mentioned growing up amongst glory hunting fans from the 70's & 80's. Are they still fans now? If so, I don't think they can be called as such.
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QUOTE(Duke Red @ May 5 2007, 10:55 AM)
Which is why I said most of your fans have no idea because a vast majority have only begun supporting after the EPL was established. In any case, Man Utd have always been on the ascendancy, with the exception of being relegated by Man City of course.

What constitutes a glory hunter anyway? You mentioned growing up amongst glory hunting fans from the 70's & 80's. Are they still fans now? If so, I don't think they can be called as such.
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Not everyone started supporting Manchester United when they were champions. Which is why I get rather angry when people say Manchester United were all about the money and they rose to the top just like Chelsea.
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QUOTE(Duke Red @ May 5 2007, 10:55 AM)
Which is why I said most of your fans have no idea because a vast majority have only begun supporting after the EPL was established. In any case, Man Utd have always been on the ascendancy, with the exception of being relegated by Man City of course.

What constitutes a glory hunter anyway? You mentioned growing up amongst glory hunting fans from the 70's & 80's. Are they still fans now? If so, I don't think they can be called as such.
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Glory hunters come in many forms really. For me:

1. A person who supports the player and follows the player instead of club. When the player retires, the person retires from supporting the game or find another person to support.
2. A person who wishes to be associated with success hence will support the winning team or the best team in that time.
3. A person who supports what his friends all support.

1, 2 are the most despicable ones.

In my case, almost my entire school bus supports Liverpool with Man Utd fans forming small pockets in a sea of "Pool fans". Not too sure they do it now, coz they hardly talk football when I try to engage them into a conversation. A passing fad maybe... smile.gif.


Added on May 5, 2007, 11:03 amLike me... Tonight I am a RED DEVIL... whose blood is REDDER than RED.... tomorrow, I will pledge my support wholy and completely to Mr. Wenger's Team! Hell Yeah!.

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QUOTE(refnulf @ May 5 2007, 10:59 AM)
Not everyone started supporting Manchester United when they were champions. Which is why I get rather angry when people say Manchester United were all about the money and they rose to the top just like Chelsea.
Well I started supporting Liverpool when we were a winning team, I'd have to admit. Like I said though, you don't get to watch too many games back then, only cup finals.

QUOTE(Grengo01 @ May 5 2007, 11:01 AM)
Glory hunters come in many forms really. For me:

1. A person who supports the player and follows the player instead of club. When the player retires, the person retires from supporting the game or find another person to support.
2. A person who wishes to be associated with success hence will support the winning team or the best team in that time.
3. A person who supports what his friends all support.

1, 2 are the most despicable ones.

In my case, almost my entire school bus supports Liverpool with Man Utd fans forming small pockets in a sea of "Pool fans". Not too sure they do it now, coz they hardly talk football when I try to engage them into a conversation. A passing fad maybe... smile.gif.
You talking about Beckham's legion of female fans in point no.1?

Geeze man how old are you? biggrin.gif
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post May 5 2007, 11:33 AM

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for me i change to support Liverpool after the incident in Istanbul 2005.....there arent many club who can come bac from 3-0 down to win in CL....tats when my heart is with Liverpool....i fall more deep in love with Liverpool after the FA Cup final against west ham....i was lik giving up hope after seeing Liverpool was down 3-2 n the clock indicate almost no time left for a come back...then tehre goes Gerrard superb blast.....still remember tat day was eating at mamak stall n was going to pay n leave already....after the gerrard blast then sit bac down n continue watch until saw Liverpool win it....so happy.....

before this i am a Real madrid fans becoz Raul Gonzalez is my all times favourite....but since Beckham joining Real Madrid (yay...i hate Beckham mad.gif ) then i say byebye Madrid.... thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(GrandElf @ May 5 2007, 11:33 AM)
for me i change to support Liverpool after the incident in Istanbul 2005.....there arent many club who can come bac from 3-0 down to win in CL....tats when my heart is with Liverpool....i fall more deep in love with Liverpool after the FA Cup final against west ham....i was lik giving up hope after seeing Liverpool was down 3-2 n the clock indicate almost no time left for a come back...then tehre goes Gerrard superb blast.....still remember tat day was eating at mamak stall n was going to pay n leave already....after the gerrard blast then sit bac down n continue watch until saw Liverpool win it....so happy.....

before this i am a Real madrid fans becoz Raul Gonzalez is my all times favourite....but since Beckham joining Real Madrid (yay...i hate Beckham mad.gif ) then i say byebye Madrid.... thumbup.gif
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LOL then don't u fall under one of those categories that Grengo described whistling.gif
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QUOTE(Duke Red @ May 5 2007, 11:10 AM)
Well I started supporting Liverpool when we were a winning team, I'd have to admit. Like I said though, you don't get to watch too many games back then, only cup finals.
You talking about Beckham's legion of female fans in point no.1?

Geeze man how old are you?  biggrin.gif
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Suffice to say am not that old... biggrin.gif

Beckham's legion... Owen's Legion... RVN's Legion... and many others... kekekeke.. really cant stand it... my subordinates in the past... Oooooh... you support MU ah? whoa...... Beckham so cuteeeeeeee.... niamah.... thats all they know... or I love Pool... Owen soooooo sweet.... niamah niamah... RVN RVN RVN... knn why SAF sell RVN.. stupid manager... niamah niamah niamah.. these sort of supporters...


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QUOTE(verx @ May 5 2007, 11:34 AM)
LOL then don't u fall under one of those categories that Grengo described whistling.gif
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about there.. hating a club because hating a player.... vmad.gif vmad.gif

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QUOTE(Duke Red @ May 5 2007, 11:10 AM)
Well I started supporting Liverpool when we were a winning team, I'd have to admit. Like I said though, you don't get to watch too many games back then, only cup finals.
You talking about Beckham's legion of female fans in point no.1?

Geeze man how old are you?  biggrin.gif
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Grengo's old enough...

I'm a Beckham fan BTW...
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post May 5 2007, 11:51 AM

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I think a true fan will not hate rival clubs... dislike maybe.... I mean we enjoy a friendly banter and stir some fire here and there and see some flers explode... but join in the healthy rivalry.. I think that is great.

True fans will not really explode... coz they know when they are beaten but game enough to say... We Will Nick it Next Season.

Btw, I have this old classmate of mine who loved Derby County for their logo - the RAM... still is a long long suffering Derby Fan...


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QUOTE(Duke Beard @ May 5 2007, 11:49 AM)
Grengo's old enough...

I'm a Beckham fan BTW...
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niamah... kekekekekeke...

nothing wrong being a Beckham fan... but be a footie fan... not just a Beckham fan....

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QUOTE(Grengo01 @ May 5 2007, 11:51 AM)
I think a true fan will not hate rival clubs... dislike maybe.... I mean we enjoy a friendly banter and stir some fire here and there and see some flers explode... but join in the healthy rivalry.. I think that is great.

True fans will not really explode... coz they know when they are beaten but game enough to say... We Will Nick it Next Season.

Btw, I have this old classmate of mine who loved Derby County for their logo - the RAM... still is a long long suffering Derby Fan...
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Quite true. HBK supports Liverpool and I support Man Utd. I never once put down Liverpool when they play each other. Heck, I admire some Liverpool player's as well.

But I even admire "The Special One" as well...

QUOTE(Grengo01 @ May 5 2007, 11:51 AM)
niamah... kekekekekeke...

nothing wrong being a Beckham fan... but be a footie fan... not just a Beckham fan....
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Beckham > ALL!!! LOLOLOL!!! He will spark the sleeping giant that is the MLS, mark my words!!!

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QUOTE(Duke Red @ May 5 2007, 10:39 AM)
Does anyone smell the stench of a glory hunter here?
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Aren't most Liverpool fans started to support Liverpool because they are winning team? now you are accusing other fans for doing so?

Liverpool fans shouldn't talk about glory hunter, really...
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QUOTE(Duke Beard @ May 5 2007, 11:53 AM)
Quite true. HBK supports Liverpool and I support Man Utd. I never once put down Liverpool when they play each other. Heck, I admire some Liverpool player's as well.

But I even admire "The Special One" as well...
Beckham > ALL!!! LOLOLOL!!! He will spark the sleeping giant that is the MLS, mark my words!!!
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Many Man Utd fans and other fans out there do admire this spesel one.....

whoa u civilized fan leh.... I taunt and tease.... hahaha... love to see the way those flers explode but those that don't mostly end up being friends... smile.gif.

HBK truly Pool fan... suffered quite a fair bit in the late 90s and 2000s... hehehehe..

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come on lar...

all man united and liverpool fans in malaysia are glory hunter... laugh.gif

liverpool dominate 1970 and 1980 while 1993 till 2000 is man united dynasty...

i support man united since 1999, even they now no more that dominant yet i still support them... tongue.gif

the way people back in UK support their team is different to malaysia...

in UK, most probably people born in manchester will either support city or united, because it is their club...

here, all also glory hunter lar...




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QUOTE(Duke Red @ May 5 2007, 11:10 AM)
Well I started supporting Liverpool when we were a winning team, I'd have to admit. Like I said though, you don't get to watch too many games back then, only cup finals.
You talking about Beckham's legion of female fans in point no.1?

Geeze man how old are you?  biggrin.gif
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I can't really say why I started supporting Manchester United. Was it the players? The fans? The stadium itself? The red jersey? The name Manchester United? The fact that every joker around me supported Liverpool and Arsenal?

I cannot recall.

But I did start supporting them when they weren't anywhere near the top. And it's been one hell of a journey from being in the middle of the table to the top of the table. Now that's been the real enjoyment. Seeing your team, struggle, and end up being champions for a number of years, getting better and better. Of course, the hard times were around too. Losing the titles to Blackburn, Arsenal, Chelsea etc. But that's part and parcel of supporting a team. You don't jump ship when trouble arises.


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Reff, well said... never jump ship when the going gets rough... then again.. nowadays tough to say.. tell me in 10 years time you still support the same team.. smile.gif
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QUOTE(BoltonMan @ May 5 2007, 12:03 PM)
come on lar...

all man united and liverpool fans in malaysia are glory hunter... laugh.gif

liverpool dominate 1970 and 1980 while 1993 till 2000 is man united dynasty...

i support man united since 1999, even they now no more that dominant yet i still support them... tongue.gif

the way people back in UK support their team is different to malaysia...

in UK, most probably people born in manchester will either support city or united, because it is their club...

here, all also glory hunter lar...
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Its unfair to call all ppl here glory hunters...

How about the football fans who support lower division team like Southampton, Ipswich Town etc....

or EPL mid-table teams like Aston Villa, Middlesbrough, and West Ham United?

Those clubs have got no glory... yet you call them glory hunters?


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QUOTE(TeckPeow @ May 5 2007, 12:09 PM)
Its unfair to call all ppl here glory hunters...

How about the football fans who support lower division team like Southampton, Ipswich Town etc....

or EPL mid-table teams like Aston Villa, Middlesbrough, and West Ham United?

Those clubs have got no glory... yet you call them glory hunters?
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Aston Villa were big in the 80's...

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