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 The Official iPhone X Discussion Thread | V5, Say hello to the future

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post Jun 22 2018, 06:52 PM

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QUOTE(dino89 @ Jun 22 2018, 05:46 PM)
The 7Plus does have longer battery life compared to the X
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Considering the battery capacity is slightly higher thank the plus I expect more or less the same battery life..

I gues the culprit is the oled and higher resolution
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post Jun 22 2018, 07:15 PM

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QUOTE(crazee @ Jun 22 2018, 06:52 PM)
Considering the battery capacity is slightly higher thank the plus I expect more or less the same battery life..

I gues the culprit is the oled and higher resolution
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No. ipx has 2716mah, ip8+ has 2691mah and ip7+ has 2900mah so battery of ipx is actually in the middle of the pack.

The oled display and higher res screen are real nice on the ipx, I agree biggrin.gif
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post Jun 22 2018, 10:38 PM

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QUOTE(EdwinCodec @ Jun 22 2018, 01:32 PM)
Same problem..
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Same problem here 😓
Btw, do u guys knw what is the issue if whatsapp imcoming video call sound is low than whatsapp normal call sound? Its that normal or any setting?
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post Jun 23 2018, 07:08 AM

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I noticed my iPhone X takes longer time to complete the battery charges since using the latest iOS 11.4. Anyone else notice the same?
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post Jun 23 2018, 09:45 AM

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QUOTE(crazee @ Jun 22 2018, 06:52 PM)
Considering the battery capacity is slightly higher thank the plus I expect more or less the same battery life..

I gues the culprit is the oled and higher resolution
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Another theory is the layout of the battery is slightly inefficient - the X has two batteries instead of one big one.

This post has been edited by attw: Jun 23 2018, 09:45 AM
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post Jun 23 2018, 03:31 PM

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QUOTE(zuhaili87 @ Jun 23 2018, 07:08 AM)
I noticed my iPhone X takes longer time to complete the battery charges since using the latest iOS 11.4. Anyone else notice the same?
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Mine always takes a while. I gotta start timing it sweat.gif
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post Jun 23 2018, 04:20 PM

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QUOTE(ZenXL @ Jun 23 2018, 03:31 PM)
Mine always takes a while. I gotta start timing it  sweat.gif
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I always charge my phone when it reaches 20%. Then it will take 2 and a half hour to fully charged. But now since iOS 11.4 it took longer time to fully charged. 30 minutes more or less like that. sweat.gif
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post Jun 23 2018, 06:30 PM

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QUOTE(kmrdeva @ Jun 22 2018, 07:15 PM)
No. ipx has 2716mah, ip8+ has 2691mah and ip7+ has 2900mah so battery of ipx is actually in the middle of the pack.

The oled display and higher res screen are real nice on the ipx, I agree biggrin.gif
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but OLED selling point is energy saving, because it could turn off individual pixels completely, unlike IPS backlight that is alway on.
Dunno lah, don't care, just use the phone and charge lo.
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post Jun 23 2018, 06:36 PM

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QUOTE(fx9 @ Jun 23 2018, 06:30 PM)
but OLED selling point is energy saving, because it could turn off individual pixels completely, unlike IPS backlight that is alway on.
Dunno lah, don't care, just use the phone and charge lo.
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Waiting for native dark mode to come with iOS to enjoy this advantage.

Same here, I don’t monitor the battery life religiously. Will charge anywhere and whenever wink.gif
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post Jun 24 2018, 08:23 AM

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QUOTE(zuhaili87 @ Jun 23 2018, 04:20 PM)
I always charge my phone when it reaches 20%. Then it will take 2 and a half hour to fully charged. But now since iOS 11.4 it took longer time to fully charged. 30 minutes more or less like that. sweat.gif
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What charger do you use? The stock one?
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post Jun 24 2018, 02:09 PM

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QUOTE(zuhaili87 @ Jun 23 2018, 04:20 PM)
I always charge my phone when it reaches 20%. Then it will take 2 and a half hour to fully charged. But now since iOS 11.4 it took longer time to fully charged. 30 minutes more or less like that. sweat.gif
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Charging Li-PO battery at 20% regularly will cause battery life shorten, because it is kinda considered deep discharge/charge.

A better way to charge is once the battery reach 50%, you should charge it to 90%, this is 40% Depth of Discharge (DOD), you battery life cycle will increase to 3000, if your DOD is 80%, the battery life cycle is 900 only.





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post Jun 24 2018, 04:13 PM

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QUOTE(attw @ Jun 24 2018, 08:23 AM)
What charger do you use? The stock one?
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Ya bro, stock original charger.

QUOTE(Kiding @ Jun 24 2018, 02:09 PM)
Charging Li-PO battery at 20% regularly will cause battery life shorten, because it is kinda considered deep discharge/charge.

A better way to charge is once the battery reach 50%, you should charge it to 90%, this is 40% Depth of Discharge (DOD), you battery life cycle will increase to 3000, if your DOD is 80%, the battery life cycle is 900 only.
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I see. So i should charge it to 90% whenever it reach 50%? Means i dont need to charge it till 100%?
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post Jun 24 2018, 04:40 PM

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QUOTE(zuhaili87 @ Jun 24 2018, 04:13 PM)
Ya bro, stock original charger.
I see. So i should charge it to 90% whenever it reach 50%? Means i dont need to charge it till 100%?
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Not do full charge, it does not do good to the battery either.
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post Jun 24 2018, 05:12 PM

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QUOTE(Kiding @ Jun 24 2018, 02:09 PM)
Charging Li-PO battery at 20% regularly will cause battery life shorten, because it is kinda considered deep discharge/charge.

A better way to charge is once the battery reach 50%, you should charge it to 90%, this is 40% Depth of Discharge (DOD), you battery life cycle will increase to 3000, if your DOD is 80%, the battery life cycle is 900 only.
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Lithium-ion batteries do not have a charge memory. Deep-discharge cycles are irrelevant. Lithium-ion batteries do not behave like a NiCad.
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post Jun 24 2018, 05:55 PM

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QUOTE(Yen8on3 @ Jun 24 2018, 05:12 PM)
Lithium-ion batteries do not have a charge memory. Deep-discharge cycles are irrelevant. Lithium-ion batteries do not behave like a NiCad.
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Wrong. NiCad need full discharge to prolong the batt life due to memory effect. This aint about memory effect, this is about strain on the battery itself. There are too many articles about this.

https://www.popsci.com/charge-batteries-right#page-4
https://www.androidcentral.com/how-take-car...-phones-battery
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post Jun 24 2018, 06:26 PM

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QUOTE(Yen8on3 @ Jun 24 2018, 05:12 PM)
Lithium-ion batteries do not have a charge memory. Deep-discharge cycles are irrelevant. Lithium-ion batteries do not behave like a NiCad.
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You confused the Depth of Discharge with memory effect, deep DoD is the enemy of rechargeable batteries, not only Li-Po battery, NiMH battery, even 12V lead acid battery also don't like deep discharge and charge.
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post Jun 24 2018, 07:14 PM

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QUOTE(ben3003 @ Jun 24 2018, 05:55 PM)
Wrong. NiCad need full discharge to prolong the batt life due to memory effect. This aint about memory effect, this is about strain on the battery itself. There are too many articles about this.

https://www.popsci.com/charge-batteries-right#page-4
https://www.androidcentral.com/how-take-car...-phones-battery
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QUOTE(Kiding @ Jun 24 2018, 06:26 PM)
You confused the Depth of Discharge with memory effect, deep DoD is the enemy of rechargeable batteries, not only Li-Po battery, NiMH battery, even 12V lead acid battery also don't like deep discharge and charge.
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I beg to differ. We need to correct our mindsets about battery.
All types of batteries are consumable that deteriorate over time whether they are being used or kept uncharged.
Time and number of times a battery has been charged are not the only factors in the chemical ageing process.
Usage pattern and environment will affect the performance of a battery over its lifespan

If you are solely talking about the batteries, depth of discharge or even memory effect may have a little bearing.
Nevertheless, we need to take into account the interventions of the iOS operating system.

iOS software charges the lithium-ion battery until 80% and then quickly switches to slow trickle charging.

Straight advice from Apple is to just charge the Apple lithium-ion battery whenever you want.
Apple lithium-ion batteries work in charge cycles.
You complete one charge cycle when you’ve used (discharged) an amount that equals 100 per cent of your battery’s capacity — but not necessarily all from one charge. For instance, you might use 75 per cent of your battery’s capacity one day, then recharge it fully overnight. If you use 25 per cent the next day, you will have discharged a total of 100 per cent, and the two days will add up to one charge cycle. It could take several days to complete a cycle.

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post Jun 24 2018, 07:21 PM

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QUOTE(Yen8on3 @ Jun 24 2018, 07:14 PM)
I beg to differ. We need to correct our mindsets about battery.
All types of batteries are consumable that deteriorate over time whether they are being used or kept uncharged.
Time and number of times a battery has been charged are not the only factors in the chemical ageing process.
Usage pattern and environment will affect the performance of a battery over its lifespan

If you are solely talking about the batteries, depth of discharge or even memory effect may have a little bearing.
Nevertheless, we need to take into account the interventions of the iOS operating system.

iOS software charges the lithium-ion battery until 80% and then quickly switches to slow trickle charging.

Straight advice from Apple is to just charge the Apple lithium-ion battery whenever you want.
Apple lithium-ion batteries work in charge cycles.
You complete one charge cycle when you’ve used (discharged) an amount that equals 100 per cent of your battery’s capacity — but not necessarily all from one charge. For instance, you might use 75 per cent of your battery’s capacity one day, then recharge it fully overnight. If you use 25 per cent the next day, you will have discharged a total of 100 per cent, and the two days will add up to one charge cycle. It could take several days to complete a cycle.

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Bro we are talking about the similar thing, there is no much argument here. We are talking about it is better to strain the battery less, the longer u charge the hotter the battery gets. the advise is not to wait until less than 20% only charge and die die must charge to 100% as what our father mother told us. That's why apple say u can charge whenever u want, and those articles throughout the internet backed by facts.
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post Jun 24 2018, 07:34 PM

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I’m a creature of habit so old habits die hard. Will use as I like then charge overnight as I always do and top up the juice when I feel like it. Won’t waste time overanalysing something like battery life.

Can always get the battery replaced with some cost so there.

My 2 sen’s worth, over wink.gif tongue.gif
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post Jun 24 2018, 08:44 PM

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QUOTE(zuhaili87 @ Jun 23 2018, 04:20 PM)
I always charge my phone when it reaches 20%. Then it will take 2 and a half hour to fully charged. But now since iOS 11.4 it took longer time to fully charged. 30 minutes more or less like that. sweat.gif
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2 and a half hour.... blink.gif now i reconsider to get myself ipx sweat.gif

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