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 Earning Salary More than RM 5K, Those below 28, share ur tips here!!

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post Jun 26 2007, 12:33 AM

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learn plus earn more hehe
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post Jun 26 2007, 08:51 AM

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QUOTE(tinkerbel @ Jun 26 2007, 12:30 AM)
I think u people are a little TOO focused on wanting to earn the big bucks.  Shouldn't the focus be to learn and be exposed... esp now that u are at the beginning of your careers being young and dynamic individuals?! *scratch head*
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Tinky that's easy for you to say now that you're earning your six figure annual salary tongue.gif at a tender age. However you must remember that back in 1997 the starting salary at a large MNC was around RM2000-2400 and it's still about the same today when the cost of living is so much higher. I can understand people wanting to get more money to just survive.

But then again many people are just greedy and lazy laugh.gif

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post Jun 27 2007, 12:51 AM

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nowadays ppl still want more money and work less .....
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i dont think so . these day the company really give work more then the money they give. especially wif fresh graduate because like example during interview they say tat because fresh graduate and very young jus 20 year old own a diploma dont need so much money so give low paid !@#$%%^ !!! tat mean company wan their worker all need 1 man show.. 1 person handle up to 6 project somemore wif low paid.. like a slave.

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QUOTE(tinkerbel @ Jun 25 2007, 06:27 PM)
And would this be considered 'independent'?

Monthly Salary : RM8k

Food : RM1200
Car Loan : RM1600
Petrol & Toll : RM600
Bills : RM500
Entertainment : RM500
Folks : RM600
Savings : RM3000
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Awesome achievement! You're saving a substantial portion of your salary, which is one way of achieving independence. Make hay while the sun shines, as things may change once you commit yourself to a mortgage, have kids etc.

Financial independence usually means that you can live off your savings/assets i.e. you have so much savings/assets that generate you interest, dividends, income that you can live on.

Say you have RM10 million in the bank, which generates RM400k in interest annually. You then live off that interest, and never have to work or worry about your finances. That's being independent. How much you need to be independent is completely subjective and relative to your current and future needs.
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QUOTE(laksamana @ Jun 27 2007, 04:09 PM)
Awesome achievement! You're saving a substantial portion of your salary, which is one way of achieving independence. Make hay while the sun shines, as things may change once you commit yourself to a mortgage, have kids etc.

Financial independence usually means that you can live off your savings/assets i.e. you have so much savings/assets that generate you interest, dividends, income that you can live on.

Say you have RM10 million in the bank, which generates RM400k in interest annually. You then live off that interest, and never have to work or worry about your finances. That's being independent. How much you need to be independent is completely subjective and relative to your current and future needs.
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He got the point there. The example given on Mr A was common for most fresh graduates in Malaysia nowaday. So looking at the situation, A fresh graduate should be paid at least RM 2200 as minimum wages to be financial independant.

Stop talking about those learning first and money thingie later bullshit. Who doesnt understand that. In order to motivate a worker, you have to put yourself in his/her shoe. Mr A simply cant tell the landlord/bank about he's earning lesser now , so he can pay lesser...... landlord will tell you to find another place and bank will charge u more interest rate.

Many are consider lucky as they have no commitment to bear. I have friends like Mr A who need to work extra work after working hours to support his living.

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QUOTE(Kayne @ Jun 27 2007, 04:43 PM)
He got the point there. The example given on Mr A was common for most fresh graduates in Malaysia nowaday. So looking at the situation, A fresh graduate should be paid at least RM 2200 as minimum wages to be financial independant.

Stop talking about those learning first and money thingie bullshit. Who doesnt understand that. In order to motivate a worker, you have to put yourself in his/her shoe. Mr A simply cant tell the landlord/bank about he's earning lesser now , so he can pay lesser...... landlord will tell you to find another place and bank will charge u more interest rate.

Many are consider lucky as they have no commitment to bear. I have friends like Mr A who need to work extra work after working hours to support his living.
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Absolutely. Your second para says it all. Someone gave an example of how it was living in 1997 on ~RM2k salary, and having to live on that now in 2007.

The point is that most Malaysian employers want good quality workers, but are not willing to pay good wages to obtain and retain them. The flip side is that Malaysian employees may not be worth that kind of money if they are unable to add value to a company. It's a structural problem that badly needs to be addressed. Otherwise, the brain drain trend will continue, as the best Malaysian workers will go overseas where the money and intellectual stimulation is superior, which equates to better job satisfaction.
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I am going to graduate with a degree in management with majoring in finance,in what particular sector should i venture into to find the biggest prospect for advancement and satisfaction ? Should i venture into the industrial sector ? or should i keep on focusing my attention in landing a job in the financial sector ?

I've seen good paid brokers,financial analyst and also higly paid financial executives for MNC production facilities and these lead me to the dangerous waters of uncertainty as there is vast opportunity for me out there and not forgetting the banking sector as in investment banking or retail banking ? I'm quite uncertain,for now i'm still on general/neutral grounds.
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QUOTE(Lcsx @ Jun 24 2007, 02:21 PM)
Typically for a finance student, you need to know where and how to look for a job. Often most finance or/and Economics students give up because on their line because of the failure to do the above.

There are 3 main variants of Analysts in the business world. 1. Accounts analyst 2. Research Analyst 3. Market Research Analyst. Note : Each of these can be called various different names often they end up having the same title but different job scope. Accounts analyst is typically an accounting type job, keep track of invoices, credit control, fraud detection and other things closely related to accounts. Research Analysts generally are people who research in listed companies and writes reports on them. However there are many other variants, the said one is the most common for Malaysia. They are normally known as either Analysts or Associates and sometimes called Equity Research Analyst to avoid confusion. Market research Analysts are often also called Analyst or Associates but their coverage is often more macro. They are more concerned about statistics and trends of an industry rather than a single company. Their activities are most active in developed/developing nations. They often carry out their research activities both locally and abroad.

Out of the 3 main variants, the 1st is the easiest job to obtain and find. These jobs are frequently advertised in jobstreet and jobsdb. The latter 2 are rarely found in public job postings and there are very few such positions. The job availability ratios are probably  around 400 : 3 : 2.
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Credit to Mr lcsx for his explaination. You have to plan yourself first on what you want to do. Then only you will have a clearer view on how to achieve it

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QUOTE(Kayne @ Jun 27 2007, 04:43 PM)
He got the point there. The example given on Mr A was common for most fresh graduates in Malaysia nowaday. So looking at the situation, A fresh graduate should be paid at least RM 2200 as minimum wages to be financial independant.
Stop talking about those learning first and money thingie later bullshit. Who doesnt understand that. In order to motivate a worker, you have to put yourself in his/her shoe. Mr A simply cant tell the landlord/bank about he's earning lesser now , so he can pay lesser...... landlord will tell you to find another place and bank will charge u more interest rate.

Many are consider lucky as they have no commitment to bear. I have friends like Mr A who need to work extra work after working hours to support his living.
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i m sorry but to say u once again abuse the word financial independent . n mind u to survive in KL , many ppl can make it with rm1500 salary, budgeting is very important , spend on necessary not accessary, b4 u earn big bucks perhaps u might wanto cut down on expenses like car, petrol, streamyx, master bedroom , high social bill....many of my frens ( or most ) started with less than 2K but budgetted themselves well and 3yrs passed , now they can comfortably enjoy those BASIC needs tht u mention.

with or without commitment, we still work extra mile or walk extra mile to learn....so sad tht malaysian education didn't teach u to understand learning is the basic of earning , i heard this twice this week, coming from not -degree holder , earning 5figure ppl.

stop complaning n blaming and all the best for u . icon_rolleyes.gif


Added on June 29, 2007, 12:00 am
QUOTE(nabelon @ Jun 27 2007, 05:06 PM)
I am going to graduate with a degree in management with majoring in finance,in what particular sector should i venture into to find the biggest prospect for advancement and satisfaction ? Should i venture into the industrial sector ? or should i keep on focusing my attention in landing a job in the financial sector ?

I've seen good paid brokers,financial analyst and also higly paid financial executives for MNC production facilities and these lead me to the dangerous waters of uncertainty as there is vast opportunity for me out there and not forgetting the banking sector as in investment banking or retail banking ? I'm quite uncertain,for now i'm still on general/neutral grounds.
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put aside the money factor, wat is ur interest and wat do u think ur strengths are? by having passion is ur career and maximising ur full potential in the area u are good at will bring u far and high.....each industry oso paying high if u do it right. put aside short term high pay...

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QUOTE(yewkhuay @ Jun 28 2007, 11:57 PM)
i m sorry but to say u once again abuse the word financial independent . n mind u to survive in KL , many ppl can make it with rm1500 salary, budgeting is very important , spend on necessary not accessary, b4 u earn big bucks perhaps u might wanto cut down on expenses like car, petrol, streamyx, master bedroom , high social bill....many of my frens  ( or most ) started with less than 2K but budgetted themselves well and 3yrs passed , now they can comfortably enjoy those BASIC needs tht u mention.

with or without commitment, we still work extra mile or walk extra mile to learn....so sad tht malaysian education didn't teach u to understand learning is the basic of earning , i heard this twice this week, coming from not -degree holder , earning 5figure ppl.

stop complaning n blaming and all the best for u . icon_rolleyes.gif


Added on June 29, 2007, 12:00 am

put aside the money factor, wat is ur interest and wat do u think ur strengths are? by having passion is ur career and maximising ur full potential in the area u are good at will bring u far and high.....each industry oso paying high if u do it right. put aside short term high pay...
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If you take a close look at my example. I did not include entertainment cost at all.

For petrol, car loan, masterbed room, streamyx. Those arent avoidable and I have gave a very very minimum standard for it. And as I mentioned, Not everyone doesnt have commitment in LOAN & such. I am pretty sure you friends doesnt need to pay for CAR LOAN, OR STUDY LOAN ( since it was not mentioned in your sentences)

I dont think you factor those into consideration at all.
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One is never gonna be satisfied with what he's earning, despite the amount! The question here is to live within your means. If you can only afford so much, then make sure the basic's met before even considering the luxury items - and, no matter how much you're earning, it is always possible to save some $

Stop smoking if u must. Stop watching movies. Stop going to TGIF. Stop clubbing. Stop drinking. Stop going to the karaoke joints. Stop impulsive shopping. STOP using your credit card.
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QUOTE(Kayne @ Jun 27 2007, 04:43 PM)
He got the point there. The example given on Mr A was common for most fresh graduates in Malaysia nowaday. So looking at the situation, A fresh graduate should be paid at least RM 2200 as minimum wages to be financial independant.

Stop talking about those learning first and money thingie later bullshit. Who doesnt understand that. In order to motivate a worker, you have to put yourself in his/her shoe. Mr A simply cant tell the landlord/bank about he's earning lesser now , so he can pay lesser...... landlord will tell you to find another place and bank will charge u more interest rate.

Many are consider lucky as they have no commitment to bear. I have friends like Mr A who need to work extra work after working hours to support his living.
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<<financial independant.>>

Stop abusing the words. Until and unless a person can live off his/her investment without working, a person is not financially independent.

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Hmm, I am 20 and I earn around RM5000++ per month. Well, I personally don't care about how much I earn, but I hate people who owe money for a long time. I just have passion to do what I am interested in. That's more important to me, enthusiasm~

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QUOTE(shengh @ Jun 30 2007, 06:01 PM)
Hmm, I am 20 and I earn around RM5000++ per month. Well, I personally don't care about how much I earn, but I hate people who owe money for a long time. I just have passion to do what I am interested in. That's more important to me, enthusiasm~

By the way, RM1200 per month for food expenses isn't that a bit crazy? I am refering to a previous thread.
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so wut u do earning 5k?
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@shengh,
The example I put above is on the high side. What I'm really trying to say is if one's earning RM5k, he shouldn't spend more than that. If he's earning RM2k, then he should use that as a cap.

@dreamer101,
What I meant in my earlier post is that one will never complain about having too much money. It's true that when you get older, job security and satisfaction counts more than the income [that's also because he would be earning enough to support his family?]

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QUOTE(Kayne @ Jun 29 2007, 09:08 AM)
If you take a close look at my example. I did not include entertainment cost at all.

For petrol, car loan, masterbed room, streamyx. Those arent avoidable and I have gave a very very minimum standard for it. And as I mentioned, Not everyone doesnt have commitment in LOAN & such. I am pretty sure you friends doesnt need to pay for CAR LOAN, OR STUDY LOAN ( since it was not mentioned in your sentences)

I dont think you factor those into consideration at all.
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my dear, my fren hav car loan n study loan as well , but they don choose to stay in master bedroom, streamyx , tht save at least rm200 oready.... if urs is minimum standard, they must be in hell....
wake up , face the reality n start do a better budgetting...


Added on July 2, 2007, 12:49 am
QUOTE(shengh @ Jun 30 2007, 05:01 PM)
Hmm, I am 20 and I earn around RM5000++ per month. Well, I personally don't care about how much I earn, but I hate people who owe money for a long time. I just have passion to do what I am interested in. That's more important to me, enthusiasm~

By the way, RM1200 per month for food expenses isn't that a bit crazy? I am refering to a previous thread.
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bravo , bro........ thumbup.gif notworthy.gif

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maybe ppl everliday eat buffet at hotel istana haha.
wow so nice 20 yrs oledi get rm5k >
give me some guide eh hehe.

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