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juzmafia
post Oct 29 2019, 01:05 PM

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QUOTE(kskoay @ Oct 29 2019, 08:00 AM)
still need confirmation on Dolby Vision support on local play (HDD)
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As per my previous reply, there is no android app that curently support Dolby Vision dual-layer which is required to play DV remuxs from HDD but since u already owned LG Oled TV which support DV dual-layer, u just need to direct play the DV remuxs to ur LG TV via Plex/Xplay.
It is not necessary to have new Shield TV to play DV remuxs on TV that support DV dual-layer.
The only downside is that it is only possible with lossly audio or lossless audio which need to be convert to PCM first.

QUOTE(GuyM @ Oct 29 2019, 08:44 AM)
Await 11.11 Amazon sales
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QUOTE(jhleo1 @ Oct 29 2019, 12:34 PM)
If you expect the new unit will have sales, you must pray very hard.
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Most probably there will be Black Friday/Cyber Monday promo starting on 28/11/2019 - 02/12/2019.

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post Oct 29 2019, 03:20 PM

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QUOTE(kskoay @ Oct 29 2019, 02:58 PM)
all my files are in BDMV format (folder), i dont have remux format file...i dont think Plex/xplay can play BDMV  blush.gif
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Then u can do ur own remux from the ISO files..
Refer here >> https://www.makemkv.com/forum/viewtopic.php...67e69daaaba075b
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post Oct 29 2019, 03:28 PM

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AI Upscaling is impressive..


..but with some limitations currently..

WHAT IS AI-ENHANCED UPSCALING?
Using the power from the latest NVIDIA Tegra X1+ processor, AI-enhanced upscaling will upscale HD video (720p/1080p) to 4K using the power of AI. For most HD video content on top apps like Netflix and Prime Video, users can expect to see crisper, clearer, video than what is achieved with basic upscaling.

HOW CAN I SEE WHAT AI UPSCALING CAN DO ON SHIELD?
Under the “AI-Upscaling” menu you will find a “Demo Mode” switch. When enabled, you will be able to compare your current “AI-Upscaling” setting to “Basic” upscaling image quality. “Basic” upscaling is a common upscaling method used by previous SHIELD TV devices and many popular streaming devices available today.

- Press the “Settings” button on your SHIELD remote to toggle between Basic and AI-Upscaling

- Hold “Settings” button to compare “Basic” and “AI-Upscaling” side by side


WHAT CONTENT CAN I UPSCALE USING AI?
The AI-Upscaler will work on content that is:
> Resolution: Greater than 480p but less than 4K
> Refresh rate: 30Hz refresh rate or less
> Color space: YUV color space
> Video content (Non-gaming content)

As reference, most non-4K content on Netflix and Prime Video work with AI-upscaling.


WHAT HAPPENS WHEN AI-UPSCALING IS NOT-AVAILABLE
In most cases, SHIELD will fall back to Enhanced upscaling. This is an enhanced quality version of the upscaler compared to the previous generation upscaling.



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post Oct 30 2019, 11:57 PM

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QUOTE(dwRK @ Oct 29 2019, 05:23 PM)
Waiting on Shield TV Pro Gamer edition... biggrin.gif
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If the gamer edition comes with the same 2017 controller then i'll suggest buying the normal pro version and pair it with xbox, ps4 or other 3rd party controller since both 2015/2017 controller had same issue/flaw with the joystick similar to Nintendo switch joy con.

As per previous findings on the two accessories that Nvidia has been working on which one of it was the new 'Toblerone' remote, i'm sure there will be a new controller.

QUOTE(dwRK @ Oct 30 2019, 08:17 PM)
I only trust 2 reviewers... eta prime & hdtvtest... biggrin.gif

Looking at the big picture... it's still the fastest box around. So I'm not really surprised
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Same, eta prime is one of my go to YouTuber for reviews & emulation..
He even found out that Shield 2019 'Tube' (8GB) is running on 32-bit mode instead of 64-bit. 🤔

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post Nov 2 2019, 03:22 PM

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QUOTE(monodevil @ Nov 1 2019, 03:25 AM)
guys..new to this tvbox. is it advisable to buy the 2017 version instead of 2019?
just need normal Astro Go (valid subscription) n play 4k movie
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QUOTE(monodevil @ Nov 1 2019, 02:01 PM)
Have 2 tv..one connected to mibox s.. Another one still undecided.. Maybe middle range tv box + ps4 (casual gaming) may suffice my need
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If ur current requirement/setup does not need/have Dolby Vision, Atmos(Netflix) or AI Upscaling then 2017 version should be good.

Astro Go works fine on STV 2017 and should work on STV 2019 too.
U can set ur STV as a server so u can watch ur digital(remux) movie collection on another TV if u don't have home server/nas.

For gaming there are few options:-
1. U can gamestream from ur PC if it fits the requirements via few apps.
2. PS4 remote play under same network/location but the PS controller need to connect to PS4 instead of STV. There are few other workaround to stream PS4 to STV.
3. PUBG Mobile on STV
4. GeforceNow beta but currently there is no 'open' server for Asia region.
5. Emulation

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post Nov 5 2019, 10:38 PM

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QUOTE(kskoay @ Nov 5 2019, 03:51 PM)
pls take note if you plan to buy this for DV purpose (local media), then you can forget about it....according to bro juzmafia, so far there is no android app able to play DV ..which mean you are not able to play local media in DV format.....this new box only able to support Netflix DV....
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QUOTE(gobiomani @ Nov 5 2019, 04:08 PM)
Oh shit  sad.gif
Thanks for sharing. Looks like I will wait until Kodi or some other app allow DV for local remux files.
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There is some new development:-
1. Latest Plex beta 7.24 will able to play DV remux single-layer(profile 5) meanwhile for dual-layer(profile7) it will only play 1st layer(Base-HDR10) and ignore the 2nd layer(Enhancements-DV). Atm, Plex has no plan to add support for multi-stream & DV transcoding which is required to play/transcode DV dual-layer.
Additional note: According to Plex dev, STV 2019 only support DV Single-layer mode.

2. DV remux is now possible with lossless Audio.
Few STV users manage to play it with DTS-X & DTS-HD MA but not with Atmos which is still possible if Plex add required support for Dolby TrueHD in MP4 container.

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post Nov 11 2019, 10:41 PM

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QUOTE(Platonic @ Nov 11 2019, 09:48 PM)
Can Nvidia Shield able to run Astro Go apps direct from apps store or do we have to install a modded apk?

Please advise, thank you.
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Can run latest version w/o mod but still need to sideload since Astro Go is not available on Android TV playstore.

The apk can be downloaded from apkmirror or 3rd party app store..

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post Nov 12 2019, 04:22 PM

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QUOTE(monodevil @ Nov 12 2019, 01:52 PM)
do u guys think the 2017 version may reduce it price?

and any kind soul can give link (amazon) for me to monitor the 2017 price. (first time buying goods at amazon)
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Nvidia have removed all the 2017 model from their official listing & replace it with 2019 model..

There are used & new 2017 model sold by 3rd party seller on Amazon around $170 but not all can be shipped to Malaysia.
As for used unit, u won't be able to access Free GeForce Now beta if the previous owner has login since it is only exclusive for first account used to login.

U still can get new 2017 model at Lazada/Shopee & for GeForce Now access u need to show proof of purchase to Nvidia support.
Anyway, there will be black fridy sale & hopefully the offer price will be attractive.

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post Nov 18 2019, 06:51 PM

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QUOTE(MeToo @ Nov 18 2019, 04:02 PM)
Guys I got fedup with the multiple cheap TV Box i got which usualyl gives me so much problem..

1. MiTV3 .... Chinese version so much headache with the menu/interface

2. Tanix TX6... problem with Netflix.. came preinstalled worked for awhile then doesnt work.. sigh.. tried to load various APK also didnt work

3. MiBox S... limited Google Playstore...

So I'm thinking whether this nVidia SHield will be straigth forward P&P. I only do NetFlix/Prime/YouTube and playstore with Google Chrome etc...

No gaming.
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Both Shield TV & Mibox S have similar playstore which is limited to Android TV compatible apps.

If need to use any mobile apps , u can sideload it or use 3rd party app store such as Aptoide, Aurora, Yalp store & etc..

Fyi, Xiaomi is testing Android P for Mibox S, currently it is in second beta and most probably it will receive official Amazon Prime app with other improvements.

Xiaomi Android P Change Log:-
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


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post Dec 14 2019, 05:11 PM

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QUOTE(cyclone9 @ Dec 14 2019, 02:10 PM)
How much is Nvidia shield 2017 2nd hand now?
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Spotted few 2nd unit with controller priced between 700 to 800..
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post Dec 15 2019, 04:57 PM

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QUOTE(cyclone9 @ Dec 15 2019, 03:32 PM)
Anyone tried to connect 2 Xbox controller to Nvidia shield? Does it work?
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Yes, if it is the bluetooth version.
Might wanna read this post
>> https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/forums...txboxspan-one-/
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post Dec 15 2019, 11:23 PM

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QUOTE(cyclone9 @ Dec 15 2019, 07:15 PM)
Ic means both controller must be Bluetooth. Not sure if both USB port will work?
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Wired controller should work..
Xbox 360 wireless controller will work but need to use with xbox 360 wireless adapter.

Do note that usage of 3rd party controllers will have some limitations:-
> No rumble
> Audio jack won't work
> No 'ok google' detection
> Basic mapping/function

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QUOTE(beverlykho @ Aug 14 2020, 09:33 AM)
Does anyone know where I can get the Nvidia Shield Pro 2019 stand locally?
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If urgent, can do 3D print stand but do note on the differences surface texture based on the nozzle size.
There are few shopee seller providing this service.
The designs are available at Thingiverse website & the stand size for Shield 2019 Pro is the same as Shield 2017 (16GB)

https://www.thingiverse.com/search?q=Nvidia...s&sort=relevant

If prefer Original Shield TV stand, can ask Techbug in case they have new stock on the way.

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QUOTE(lockmunk @ Aug 15 2020, 10:59 PM)
can i buy shield using forwarder such as buyandship instead of buy from amazon which shipping charge $45?
is using forwarder can get cheaper postage? what about custom?
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Haven't personally tried their service but there are few users bought through them.
The benefit is cheaper postage, maybe around RM60 for Pro unit not including insurance.
Meanwhile for custom charges & SIRIM permit, it depends on the luck.

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QUOTE(tharmaraj @ Aug 17 2020, 11:15 AM)
where can i get free games to play with this box? playstore games all needs to be purchase and no fun.
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Not much of exciting games for native android tv after Google changed some playstore policy for ATV in late 2018, most games & apps were removed from ATV & require the dev to update the apps based on the new policy requirement to reinstate ATV compatibility.
Unfortunately, some dev decide not/ignore to update their apps due to low user base & also there are dev that no longer active.
This is the reason why some TV apps/games that are only available on mobile p/store, can be sideload to ATV & use it with TV remote.

Two years back Nvidia did offer attractive discounts for their Lightspeed Studio games which was only arnd rm5 per game but since then no more discounts.

If anyone interested, there is one subreddit that post updates on games that are on offer or temporary free for Android TV:-
https://www.reddit.com/r/AndroidTVGames2

QUOTE(ciltuz @ Aug 19 2020, 08:29 AM)
Nvidia Shield Tv Pro has issue in playing youtube video in HDR , according to tech guy Shiled Tv has difficulties in decoding youtube vp9.2 video.anyone has tweak to make this right on Shield TV
https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/forums...ftware-update-/
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This is true & it is due to the SoC does not support VP9.2 codec which is required for Youtube HDR & Google Play Movies HDR.
Unfortunately, there is no workaround to force smooth playback for this codec. Even NVIDIA tried to add support via Android 9 at software level but they could only get it to work up to 1080p but the result was not acceptable so they decide to scrape the plan.
Recently after an update to YouTube app, it did enable VP9.2 video playback on NSTV but the HDR video played smoothly only up to 720p & it was struggling at 1080p video.

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Finally, after long delayed Shield Experience 8.2.0 update is here for all Shield TV model with included Android security patch level June 2020

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Highlights:-
Shield TV 2015/2017/2019
>> Adds ability for Kodi to adjust display resolution for 480p content
>> Adds HDR to SDR color tone mapping..🤔
>> Adds SMBv3 server compatibility for connecting to SHIELD over local network (removes Plex Media Server dependency) *After two freaking years
>> Adds developer option to aggressively free system resources (Proactive kill background process) *suitable for Shield 2019 Tube
>> Allows user to grant write access to NAS from installed apps (Apps -> Special app access)

Shield TV 2019
>> [Only Shield TV 2019 Pro] Adds support for AI-enhanced upscaling for up to 60Hz content🤦‍♂️
>> [Only Shield TV 2019 Pro] Adds enhanced and AI-enhanced upscaling on GeForce NOW
>> Adds AI upscaling resolution support from 360p to 1440p content (30Hz max for 1440p upscaling)

Shield TV 2015/2017
>> Adds ‘Match frame rate (beta)’ feature to quick settings and customized menu button
*this features only adds basic function which need to manually switch to preferred fps during playback. There is an app called Refresh Rate which is available on ATV playstore that able to do much more including auto refresh rate if setting correctly. The app was develop specifically for Shield TV since almost two years back & have been working almost perfectly & heck even nvidia sometimes recommend it to user with specific use case.

>> Adds 2 new customizable menu button actions: Double press and Long press
>> Adds the following customized menu button options:-
> Select Input Source (requires IR)
> Daydream
> Send long press menu button to app

Refer here for full release notes:-
https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/forums...leased-8262020/


List of common know issues & temporary workaround:-
https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/forums...nce-upgrade-82/


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QUOTE(Lego Warfare @ Aug 27 2020, 10:28 AM)
I still want a proper OFF button that completely switches off the Shield. Not put it to sleep...
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There are few ways to complete shutdown Shield TV:-
> If using Shield 2019 remote or any 3rd party remote with dedicated power button, then just long press power button for more than 8 seconds or until NSTV shutdown.
> Add the Shutdown shortcut to quick setting menu, so when you long press back button it will open the quick setting menu
> if the remote have menu button, it can be customized to add Shutdown command. *not so sure if nvidia have added the command

QUOTE(krayden @ Aug 27 2020, 11:07 AM)
I just transitioned to using my phone as remote. Interestingly my Panny TV remote has limited functions when using on the shield but enough to get around.
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What is the function that your tv remote can't do except Air Mouse and what about your original Shield remote?
I have been using my Sony TV remote mostly to navigate and even able to access Home, Recents apps & etc shortcut via CEC.
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QUOTE(juzmafia @ Aug 27 2020, 03:03 AM)
Finally, after long delayed Shield Experience 8.2.0 update is here for all Shield TV model with included Android security patch level June 2020

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Highlights:-
Shield TV 2015/2017/2019
>> Adds ability for Kodi to adjust display resolution for 480p content
>> Adds HDR to SDR color tone mapping..🤔
>> Adds SMBv3 server compatibility for connecting to SHIELD over local network (removes Plex Media Server dependency) *After two freaking years
>> Adds developer option to aggressively free system resources (Proactive kill background process) *suitable for Shield 2019 Tube
>> Allows user to grant write access to NAS from installed apps (Apps -> Special app access)

Shield TV 2019
>> [Only Shield TV 2019 Pro] Adds support for AI-enhanced upscaling for up to 60Hz content🤦‍♂️
>> [Only Shield TV 2019 Pro] Adds enhanced and AI-enhanced upscaling on GeForce NOW
>> Adds AI upscaling resolution support from 360p to 1440p content (30Hz max for 1440p upscaling)

Shield TV 2015/2017
>> Adds ‘Match frame rate (beta)’ feature to quick settings and customized menu button
*this features only adds basic function which need to manually switch to preferred fps during playback. There is an app called Refresh Rate which is available on ATV playstore that able to do much more including auto refresh rate if setting correctly. The app was develop specifically for Shield TV since almost two years back & have been working almost perfectly & heck even nvidia sometimes recommend it to user with specific use case.

>> Adds 2 new customizable menu button actions: Double press and Long press
>> Adds the following customized menu button options:-
    > Select Input Source (requires IR)
    > Daydream
    > Send long press menu button to app

Refer here for full release notes:-
https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/forums...leased-8262020/

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Post updated with correction on AI Upscaling info & some additional comment on frame rate features.
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QUOTE(Lego Warfare @ Sep 4 2020, 02:09 PM)
Thanks, never knew about the 8sec long press. New problem is how to turn it back on after it is off? The only way that works is replugging the power chord 😅
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Unfortunately, that is the only way to turn it ON after a complete power OFF. 😂
To overcome that issue, u cn diy a new extension cable with in-line switch, add 2 flat pin female socket & place it somewhere accessible.

For my usage, i will juz leave it at standby once the main switch is turned on & will only power off at night or when goin out & nobody's at home.
The shield only use very minimum power during standby especially the newer shield 2019.

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QUOTE(Lego Warfare @ Sep 4 2020, 04:25 PM)
lol silly design by Nvidia wtf... can't they implement a normal on & off like so many other devices...

Not sure if it is because i have never off it for months, but turning the TV shield pro 2019 on doesn't instantly on the TV at the same time. Last time it took only a second for the TV to on after i press the Shield's power remote, but now there is a delay of more than 5-10 secs for the TV to on...
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There are many users would agree with u on the ON/OFF function & nvidia did respond to it with similar answer as per megahertz explanation, it was designed to be always ON for the plex server & smart functions.

There were complaints on the slow wake up issue on the forum & nvidia did respond on the matter by suggesting a complete power cycle for TV, Shield & AVR to reset hdmi cec connection.
https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/forums...er-shield-expe/

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