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juzmafia
post Jan 9 2022, 10:03 PM

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Coming Soon to Shield TV..

SHIELD Experience 9.0:
https://support-shield.nvidia.com/android-t...ease-notes/9.0/

>> Android 11 with Android security patch level September 2021
>> Adds support for aptX compatible Bluetooth headsets
>> Adds option to automatically disconnect Bluetooth devices on sleep
>> Adds option to match content audio resolution (high resolution audio)
>> Adds new Gboard keyboard option
>> Adds new Energy saver setting for additional power customization
>> Adds Stadia button support to XBOX, Playstation, and SHIELD controllers

Full release note will be available once SE 9.0 officially released.

Since NVIDIA took it down, here is screenshot of the website:
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This post has been edited by juzmafia: Jan 10 2022, 02:21 PM
ben3003
post Jan 10 2022, 12:09 AM

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Shit still no refresh rate matching
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post Jan 10 2022, 01:08 AM

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QUOTE(ben3003 @ Jan 10 2022, 12:09 AM)
Shit still no refresh rate matching
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Fyi, Shield TV support frame rate matching since 2015 and that's how Kodi, VLC, Nova Player & other apps that support the Frame Rate API able to 'switch' refresh rate on supported display.

If you're referring to Android TV 12's frame rate match then it is very similar to what Shield TV already does now and it still won't force auto frame rate matching because it will require app developers to add the feature into their app first.

NVIDIA has the capability to force auto frame rate matching on system level on Shield TV but due to Netflix certification requirements they can't implement it. This the reason why NVIDIA's Match Frame Rate feature will remain in 'beta'.

To overcome this issues, someone develop an app called Refresh Rate for Shield TV that does AFR based on source info on some unsupported app like Chromecast, YouTube, Netflix, Amazon Prime & etc but of course it is not perfect/stable.

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post Jan 10 2022, 08:43 AM

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QUOTE(juzmafia @ Jan 10 2022, 01:08 AM)
Fyi, Shield TV support frame rate matching since 2015 and that's how Kodi, VLC, Nova Player & other apps that support the Frame Rate API able to 'switch' refresh rate on supported display.

If you're referring to Android TV 12's frame rate match then it is very similar to what Shield TV already does now and it still won't force auto frame rate matching because it will require app developers to add the feature into their app first.

NVIDIA has the capability to force auto frame rate matching on system level on Shield TV but due to Netflix certification requirements they can't implement it. This the reason why NVIDIA's Match Frame Rate feature will remain in 'beta'.

To overcome this issues, someone develop an app called Refresh Rate for Shield TV that does AFR based on source info on some unsupported app like Chromecast, YouTube, Netflix, Amazon Prime & etc but of course it is not perfect/stable.
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Ya problem with netflix only.. the beta app is so buggy tat i turn it off. It will keep flicker sometimes.

Nvidia could have talked to big streaming company like netflix and help them to implement. But seems like too big to even care about it?

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post Jan 10 2022, 10:50 AM

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Recently my Shield TV Tube kept love to auto instant wake up when i sleep it off (Press power button once)

The behavior getting more annoyed cause i got CEC to my TV.
When i pressed power button to make it sleep , my TV will also turn off.
Then next second, my TV screen self on and Shield TV screen display out.
Need to restart my Shield TV to solve this issue once happen.
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post Jan 10 2022, 11:00 AM

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QUOTE(juzmafia @ Jan 9 2022, 10:03 PM)
Coming Soon to Shield TV..

SHIELD Experience 9.0:
https://support-shield.nvidia.com/android-t...ease-notes/9.0/

>> Android 11 with Android security patch level September 2021
>> Adds support for aptX compatible Bluetooth headsets
>> Adds option to automatically disconnect Bluetooth devices on sleep
>> Adds option to match content audio resolution (high resolution audio)
>> Adds new Gboard keyboard option
>> Adds new Energy saver setting for additional power customization
>> Adds Stadia button support to XBOX, Playstation, and SHIELD controllers

Full release note will be available once SE 9.0 officially released.
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Haiz..still no Youtube HDR. Wish that they able to enable it at software/firmare level.
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post Jan 10 2022, 11:42 AM

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QUOTE(topeng perak @ Jan 10 2022, 11:00 AM)
Haiz..still no Youtube HDR. Wish that they able to enable it at software/firmare level.
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tat is hardware limitation, software cannot save brah.
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post Jan 10 2022, 02:17 PM

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QUOTE(ben3003 @ Jan 10 2022, 08:43 AM)
Ya problem with netflix only.. the beta app is so buggy tat i turn it off. It will keep flicker sometimes.

Nvidia could have talked to big streaming company like netflix and help them to implement. But seems like too big to even care about it?
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Actually they did lobby Netflix and other video streaming provide to add the feature but in the end it still up to them.
Older version of Netflix branch had the feature but Netflix removed it after they keep receiving complains from their subscribers on the temporary black screen during frame rate matching
Maybe with QMS and ATV12 frame rate support, they might reconsider their decision.

QUOTE(topeng perak @ Jan 10 2022, 11:00 AM)
Haiz..still no Youtube HDR. Wish that they able to enable it at software/firmare level.
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Google use VP9 Profile 2 codec for HDR video on their streaming apps(YouTube, Google TV, Stadia) which Tegra X1/X1+ does not support at hardware level but NVIDIA did try to enable it at software level with Android 9.0 but it was only stable up to 720p or 1080p25 and start to lag at 1080p60 so they had to abandoned the plan.
In May/June 2020, Google did enabled HDR on YouTube Android TV app and later disabled it for all Shield TV devices after request from NVIDIA due to bad performance.

Thanks to Google's new AV1 requirement on newer ATV/GTV device, NVIDIA now will need to design new SoC with AV1 capability unless they found a way to add it externally to Tegra X1+. Of course there's been rumors of NVIDIA ending Tegra chip production and new chip development for Nintendo but unsure if it is still by NVIDIA.


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Sharing some info on other development:

1. One Shield TV Tube user decided to flash the 'leaked' recovery image of SE 9.0 and reported improvement on high bitrate video playback on Plex.

2. DV in MKV patch has been merge into FFmpeg master branch and will be available in FFmpeg 5.0 if no issue found but no timeline for final release. This means that Kodi 20(Nexus) will able to play DV in MKV if Team Kodi decide to update their FFmpeg to 5.0 with necessary changes.
For now, not sure if they will backport it to Kodi 19.

This post has been edited by juzmafia: Jan 10 2022, 05:34 PM
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post Jan 10 2022, 04:32 PM

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Can I ask for Shield TV and Pro, only pro came with Plex player. If we install Plex ourself on the Shield TV, will that strain the hardware?


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QUOTE(peter32 @ Jan 10 2022, 04:32 PM)
Can I ask for Shield TV and Pro, only pro came with Plex player. If we install Plex ourself on the Shield TV, will that strain the hardware?
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Are you referring to the client or server app.

Plex Media Player (client) is available on all Shield TV model while Plex Media Server is only available on Shield TV 2015(All)/2017(All)/2019(only the Pro model)

No issue using Shield TV as Plex player but for Plex Server it's not that powerful.

..but still will recommend to go for the Pro model for that extra 1GB RAM so you can avoid any future headaches/limitations which will be caused by lack of RAM. Other than that, 60fps upscaling and having USB inputs is a plus.
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Thank you for your quick answer.
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post Jan 11 2022, 01:29 AM

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QUOTE(TongCN @ Jan 10 2022, 10:50 AM)
Recently my Shield TV Tube kept love to auto instant wake up when i sleep it off (Press power button once)

The behavior getting more annoyed cause i got CEC to my TV.
When i pressed power button to make it sleep ,  my TV will also turn off.
Then next second, my TV screen self on and Shield TV screen display out.
Need to restart my Shield TV to solve this issue once happen.
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1. Check what cause Shield TV to auto wake up at:
settings>device preference>about>status>up time

2. What TV model & is it directly connected to Shield TV or via AVR/Soundbar?
When the TV ON, does the Shield TV's green led turned ON too?

Do a full power cycle on all device that are connected via HDMI to your TV and Shield TV.


There is CEC issue but mostly happen to selected brand like TCL, Vizio, LG & Samsung. IIRC, NVIDIA mentioned something about tweaking current CEC settings in their future update.
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QUOTE(juzmafia @ Jan 11 2022, 01:29 AM)
1. Check what cause Shield TV to auto wake up at:
settings>device preference>about>status>up time

2. What TV model & is it directly connected to Shield TV or via AVR/Soundbar?
When the TV ON, does the Shield TV's green led turned ON too?

Do a full power cycle on all device that are connected via HDMI to your TV and Shield TV.
There is CEC issue but mostly happen to selected brand like TCL, Vizio, LG & Samsung. IIRC, NVIDIA mentioned something about tweaking current CEC settings in their future update.
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Yea, already did a full power cycle last time, unplug everything and idle 10 minutes + and replug.

Thought fix it but end up, still random happen sweat.gif (Only recent month it happens Dec & Jan like 4 or 5 times now)

My setup is Nvidia Shield TV (Tube) & Apple TV direct connect to Sound bar (Samsung Q950T) and soundbar eArc/Arc back to LG CX.
Apple TV doesnt have this issue (only boot up takes time for TV to recognise the boot up input)
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post Jan 12 2022, 11:50 PM

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Shield Experience 9.0 update is officially released to ALL Shield TV model!!

Full release note:
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


Known Issues:
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «



...and there's already Hotfix 9.0+ update available for some known issues in SE 9.0 but do note on the limitations for the hotfix image.
Refer: https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/forums...0-hotfix-image/


New knowledge Base articles that also went live today:
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «



p/s:
1. Best to monitor feedback from other users before updating unless the device is set to auto-update.. smile.gif
2. After going through some feedbacks, might wait for next update..👀

This post has been edited by juzmafia: Jan 13 2022, 02:21 PM
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post Jan 12 2022, 11:56 PM

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QUOTE(TongCN @ Jan 11 2022, 09:08 AM)
Yea, already did a full power cycle last time, unplug everything and idle 10 minutes + and replug.

Thought fix it but end up, still random happen  sweat.gif (Only recent month it happens Dec & Jan like 4 or 5 times now)

My setup is Nvidia Shield TV (Tube) & Apple TV direct connect to Sound bar (Samsung Q950T) and soundbar eArc/Arc back to LG CX.
Apple TV doesnt have this issue (only boot up takes time for TV to recognise the boot up input)
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If the issue is still there after SE 9.0 then do report to NVIDIA.
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post Jan 13 2022, 09:31 AM

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QUOTE(juzmafia @ Jan 12 2022, 11:50 PM)
Shield Experience 9.0 update is officially released to ALL Shield TV model!!

Full release note:
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


Known Issues:
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

...and there's already Hotfix 9.0+ update available for some known issues in SE 9.0 but do note on the limitations for the hotfix image.
Refer: https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/forums...0-hotfix-image/
New knowledge Base articles that also went live today:
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

p/s:
1. Best to monitor feedback from other users before updating unless the device is set to auto-update.. smile.gif
2. After going through some feedbacks, might wait for next update..👀
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best function ever, disable all hdmi-cec. call me old sch but i prefer that so no daisy chain or watever bullshit issue.

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my nvidia automatically enabled talk back option on the accessibility after the upgrade.

so if your Nvidia is "talking " to you, disable it.
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post Jan 20 2022, 09:48 PM

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Update to the 9.0 and now i cannot use my remote controller as Google Assistant :\

Previously i can just press the mic button (Shield TV won't wake up), i can straight request google to do something like turn on the light, turn on the fan

Now after latest update, press Mic button = wake Shield TV up and do nothing
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QUOTE(NewB-MX @ Aug 27 2021, 04:23 AM)
Hi everyone.

The remote of my Shield TV Pro 2019 has started acting up recently and I wonder if any of you have experienced this before and maybe have any advice.

About 1 week or so ago the remote was not so responsive; I had to wait for like 10-15 seconds after the system is on and press the buttons a few times before there as any response. I changed the batteries thinking they were dying. Initially it was ok as the remote seemed normal again.

But since a few days ago the remote does not respond after I get into the home menu. I normally just put the Shield to sleep and then turn off the power supply. When I go to the remote menu of Shield (using my TV remote), the Shield remote is shown as "Not Connected". It does not get connected even if I wait for 10 or 15 minutes and by pressing various buttons on it.

Then I discovered by chance that if I remove 1 of the batteries (can be either of them) and put it back, the remote is almost instantly connected to the main unit and will continue to work like normal, but the same problem comes back after I restart the Shield. The connecting springs inside the remote look to be in good condition (no damage or oxidation). I have never dropped the remote.

I have tried the following methods and all did not help :-

(a) clear the cache and data in Bluetooth app;
(b) forget the pairing and re-pair the remote;
© reset the remote; and
(d) unplug the power plug and plug back after 10-15 seconds.

Would appreciate any advice. Thanks in advance!
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Hi everyone. Hope you all are keeping well.

Just an update on this which I thought I should share so that others who face the same problem with the remote control may want to try this : since the problem with my remote started I also noticed that it drained the batteries very fast [at the rate of almost every week I would get a warning from the system saying that my batteries were low despite having used them (brand new) for about a week only and sometimes not even on a daily basis].

Then recently by chance I read somewhere that apparently the remote had a battery quick-draining problem if you turn on the infrared function and this was supposedly fixed by a firmware update. So that got me thinking whether I had turned on the infrared function; so I started going through my setting and saw that I did turn it on in order to use the remote to control the volume of my AVR while using my Shield. So I decided to turn off that feature to see how it would go.

Lo and behold! Since then (about a week ago) not only my batteries no longer drain like crazy my remote seems to have 'recovered' and has been working like normal! I am still testing it; so far it looks promising.

So it seems that using the remote in conjunction with my AVR via infrared messes up the connection between the remote and the main hub/console. Not sure if the problem lies with Shield, my particular set-up or the AVR (a Denon X2600H).

On another note, does anyone here use the Shield to access Tidal? I have this experience : Shield goes to sleep at the set time (for inactivity) even though while Tidal is running and playing songs. Seems like Shield is unable to detect that Tidal is actually running and hence 'thinks' that there is inactivity?

Thanks in advance!
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post Feb 8 2022, 01:37 PM

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The IR battery drain issue was due to the remote keep emitting IR signal non stop even when not in use and it was fixed later via firmware update for the remote. Iinm, latest Shield 2019 remote firmware version is v1.12.
Does this still happen to your remote when you setup IR? You can check with your phone camera.
Did you ever reset your remote?
>> https://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answers/det...-remote-control

There's setting to prevent shield tv to sleep when there is audio playing, check at under the settings>device preference>screensaver>Stay Awake on Music

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