Hr definitely

1,2,3 mostly technical dept.

IT useless?? why not ur company shutdown IT dept for 1 day, see still business as usual or nt,hahaha

HR duh

most HR depts don't do anything more complex than payroll. 99% of small companies the finance manager IS the HR dept, all of it

SME? 1 leg kick HR Admin Finance all bungkus

Purchasing either boss or boss kroni handle, HR/Accounts/Admin won't handle because 1) need operational knowledge and 2) sked fraud

This post has been edited by KLboy92: Jan 15 2018, 01:12 PM

No HR you might get late salary, poor bonus, cheap annual dinner, no amenities, KPI, no OL and many things other than getting poor monkeys which mostly approved from your team leader after first scan from HR. Everyday nightmare on unpaid SOCSO, EPF, late salary and income tax without HR.

This post has been edited by khk1987: Jan 15 2018, 01:17 PM

Large company hv few HR function. Recruitment, staffing, HRD, IR, ER, payroll etc.

lol finance can do mah.. payroll fall under companies expenditure, got accounting entries involved by right finance should deal with it.. it's more weird if hr is the one handling payroll

But HR doing the payroll lol

thats why accounting dept suits better handling those sosco, epf, income tax because they are freaking accountants who knows better the tax implication and compliance.. hr is ill-equipped to ensure payroll is handled correctly.. so many MFRS, IFRS and tax implication associated with payroll it's alarming if hr with no tax or accounting expertise handle it..

Got outsource company do the payroll in market

Where's internal audit?

Actually, I don't like accounting as they kira kaw kaw one. 1 cent ask this and that... Haha...

































Good for me!

HR at most do calculation only.
The one sending/issue payment are still finance.

HR not Union, where got they fight fot worker's right.
most of the time, they prioritise the company.

I said "most" and "small" didn't I?

anyway, IMHO even large companies also the HR add very little value to the company. Only in the biggest MNCs with international transfers and complex hiring requirements need a real HR.

shomuni (general affairs section 2)

it depends on the size/complexity of the company

for large companies, HR is definitely needed even though you hate them

I tot hr admin 1 dept lol

not useless, but most hated it is.