Hello, I'm a working class guy traveling from home to KL for work every single day. The distance for my daily commute is about 40km in a single day.
I'm currently riding a Honda Wave 125s. But as my beloved workhorse is getting old as I am, I need a new bike with better stability(no more vibration at speed more than 90km/h), better fuel economy, cheap maintenance, and better ride overall(more power and large luggage space is a plus). But no scooter please.

I have listed a few bike that is available in Malaysia from different manufacturer

Honda
1. Wave 125Fi
2. Wave Dash
3. Wave Alpha

Yamaha
1. Lagenda 115z
2.135 LC Super Sports

Modenas
1. CT 115s
2. GT 128 (Still available?)
3. Kriss MR2

Feel free to add any feedback and comment on which bike should i choose next. Money is not a problem. And you can add other bike that are not listed for consideration.

Thank you for your help.

Thanks for the reply. can you give me the reason please? I think its kinda expensive to maintain and a little bit pricey.

work commute? dowan scooter? wont go wrong with yamaha fz150i then.

12 litres tank guarantees at least 300km per tankful so u dont have to fill up every other day. speed is decent 90-110 is not straining the bike. not as thief-magnet as Y15zr and less issue compared to honda rs150.

only problem is that no bakul, so installing rear rack with top box is highly recommended. that, and the most common makan minyak hitam issue which is easily solvable with a swap of aftermarket jap-brand piston ring.

Thanks, I actually looking for a kapcai, I'll consider it if I got extra buck to spent.

My younger brother ride fz150i. Quiet a good bike from what I heard. How much is the price new? How is the fuel economy? And whats wrong with Honda RS150 if i may ask?

Nothing's wrong with the RS150.


I read that there was (were?) issues where the cam chain tensioner, alternator and MAP sensor rosak at early stage but I'm not sure what's the current situation.
You could go to Boon Siew Honda Cawangan KL Facebook to read the owner's comments.

Since you mentioned the Honda RS150, you might also consider the Y15ZR.
Or the Benelli RFS150.

Comparison CLICK HERE!! : )
credit to bikesrepublic

Ive been looking into RS150 and Y15ZR for quiet a while. Never really consider Benelli RFS150 because my friend have a bad time dealing with his Benelli bike. I heard that Y15ZR is quiet panas. Could anyoune who have a Honda RS150 for a while would tell me is it any good?

new is about rm9k+ close to but not exceed 10k otr if buy cash. however at that price range, many would say go for modenas's 200cc offerings - i am not saying it is not a good bike but rather i just preferred a jap brand over an indian rebadge, that's all.

fuel economy depends on the road you travel and how hard you throttle it. if you keep your revs below 6k all the time, there has been reports of achieving 470km per tank. keep yor rev below 7k, u get about 400km. anything higher about 7-8k, you get 350km on average. keep it full throttle (about 9.5-10k) all the way on highway - max dapat 250km only. except for 470km, the rest is based on my own experience. so for mixed hiway+city riding keeping a sensible max 8k rpm you can roughly get 330-350km per tank before the reserve indicator blinks. masuk reserve can jalan another 40-50km before run dry.

problem with honda is electrical issues and lack of ready spareparts. plus if u crash the bike, be ready to wait 1-2 months for replacement body parts. dunno apalanjio boonsiew is doing but two bike shop tauke i personally know oso said the same thing about the lack of parts.

FZ150i is a good daily commute..not so big to mencelah, can always add box for storage (side and top box) and also very good in fuel saving (rm20 per week)

of all the model you have listed, please get a bike with fuel injection compared to carb

if you really want kapchai on cheap, I would suggest you the SYM Sport Rider 125i. from the fb group, I rarely seen any reliability issue brought up by the users and sparepart is pretty much easy to get these days for SYM

this morning i already saw 3 rfs150 otr. 2 blue 1 red.
but benelli... i wonder how steady is its parts network.

Just to share.
My friend bought a Benelli TNT 135 and is using it for the past few months as his 2nd fun bike.
His feedback is that the bike is OK and can get spare parts but the QA/QC needs to improve a bit from the CKD factory.
For example; he has had wiring connectors disconnecting and several minor annoyance. But it's still OK.

Thanks for the in depth explanation. I'm not into speed so much, just daily driver to get from point a to b. I'll put your feedback into considerations when i buy a new one. For now I prefer underbone type body.

Well, maybe I should wait if I want to go for a RS150 anytime soon.

Never really consider SYM motorcycle before. If anyone have one, please give me a your thought on SYM bike. Thanks

wave dash

budget? below 7K go Dash / LC. 7 to 9.5K go for Y15 / RS150.

Using Y15 now. stim wehh

How about honda Wave 125Fi? Is it any good? It got a large fuel tank and luggage space.

Wave 125 better in fuel tank capacity. I think it's more than 5L tank, Dash 4L, 110CC.

check out their group on fb..not much major problem that's need recall. also, it seems that MFORCE (SYM/Benelli distributor) is quite aggressive in the after sales compared to Boon Siew or HLYM

I honestly think Wave Dash Fi is overpriced..110 only..but looks good

Wave 125i iinm is the same model as Future Fi, but with different aesthetics..

I have a Future old model (using carb) and it is one of the worst motorcycle I have ever rode..before, I have rode Wave 125R, Wave 125X, EX5 Class 1 (all owned by my dad) but so far, Future is the worst with its vibration..cant stand..ass kebas everytime go back to work..also need to ikat coverset with cable tight due to all screw missing because of the vibration

all of the honda wave models famous for their vibration after 1 year

Never rode an SYM motorbike before. If its any good, maybe I'll consider it on my next visit to the shop.

This model look nice especially the black one.



Yeah, my wave vibrate like crazy with speed. Already changes the cover set three times, still broken with time.

coz they got 'wave' that cause the vibration

that model is the one I mentioned above..cheapest 125cc with injection in this country. I read that the engine is basically based on the Wave's from Honda but different bore x stroke iinm

the black one is the SE model

my dad rides a wave dash.

when new fuh, feels solid.

one year later the engine sound like got loose stuffs.

and to think that this is old man bike who doesnt even ride past 60kmj

Engine from honda wave? Is it gonna vibrate to at slightly high speed?

not sure..dont see any complains on the vibration in fb group

btw, i found an article of comparison between Future and Sport Rider..but in BM

Future vs Sport Rider

i think Boon Siew quality has been decreasing.my Wave 125 (year 2005) is OK. Just gone kaput last year. Wave 125X (year 2009) still going strong..but Future (year 2014) feel like shit already

at least get the kapchai that can go on par with the national speed limit, 110 km/h - true speed.

Some of the kapchai like 100cc and below they can't keep up with the car speed on the highway..

this may cause accident, due some the car drivers dont care about slower vehicle on the road except for lorries

if not on highway like nkve or plus, shouldnt be a problem. around city can cope with low cc

my minimum is 125cc..die2 cannot go lower..

Agree, but i'm only driving in traffic jam, so not so much space for speed. But at least when i can get it to 100, I wish fir a bike that didnt vibrate so much that it make my hand and feet hurt. I'm getting old

Is GT 128 viable? I know it doesn't have fuel injection and an old model (2009?), but it seem reliable enough and fc is quite good for an old model.

why not get the latest offering like CT115 or even cheaper, MR2

CT115 looks sporty enough with rear monoshock

Don't get the GT 128, full of minor problems.

mine had some problems - hard to start if not ridden more than a day. for example if i left it over the weekend, so on monday morning either i run the battery dry or i would be kicking until my leg sore to start it. then that time my workplace motor parking is open air. if that day hujan, after finish work again hailat cannot start have to drain out all the fuel from carb. these two issue annoyed me enuff to trade it in for an FZ

that's why im against carb for future rides..

FZ, can mod to become like MT series? wider handlebar? dropped front fork?

i have fz150i year 2016/7, hardly use. selling cheaper den market price

Can. duit saja ma. ada duit mau mod apa macam pun boleh.




but if u have that much of money to throw u might as well go buy an MT

How about NMAX? hehe

Thank you for the advice.

Well, GT 128 is not a good choice then, thanks for the info. The CT115s looks nice. Anybody using it? Could I get others opinion on CT115s?

Is that the M-Slaz 150?



Not really interested in Scooter. Thanks anyway.

This post has been edited by amoura: Jan 17 2018, 03:11 AM

Yes mslaz. basically a bodykit souped up version of fz.

I cant say anything about ct115 but i used ct110 before trade in to get gt128. Boleh pakai lah nothing special but definitely less problem than I had with gt128.

2 of my brothers bought RS150 (early last year). Both use it to go to work on daily basis (Ampang to Glenmarie & Bukit Jalil to Glenmarie). One already developed that famous cam chain tensioner issue but the other one still in tip top condition. Ride and handling - soft and comfy.


Yup, Honda very bad in maintaining parts availability. As for my PCX, I just order it direct from Thailand. Faster than relying from BSH.

Hi, can you elaborate on the cam chain tensioner issue on the RS150?



and is the matte color scheme is no more?



Is modenas GT150 gonna be a reality? Looks cool btw.

This post has been edited by amoura: Jan 21 2018, 02:52 PM

The cam chain not as tension as it should be, becoming noisy and my brother's bike idle RPM getting higher than before the issue developed. Unresolved at the moment. He's too busy to take it to Honda dealer.

As for matte colour scheme, I'm not sure what's available now. Sorry.

Wait mslaz if u can. If not just get fz150i. Put box settle.

Just read this from the Pau Tin (nama betul dia x blh pakai kat forum ni yer ) .

Wonder why kenot pakai real name of Pau Tin in this forum

'Fight' with se7en (LN owner)

M-slaz is outdated lor..hopefully HLYM will bring the R15 and new FZ 155

also, Modenas dono when can arrive that super-moped..heard it is 175..but no new news from July last year..now busy with all the bajaj bike

long time issue..can google to find hehe

Credit to Pandulaju.

they need to get the price right..FZ150i is OTR 11k..Pulsar NS and RS is also around that range..both 200cc. Next is 250cc region, Naza N5R at 14k otr and Kawa 250SL is 18k.

R15 should be priced at around 13k-15k i think

Betul... HLY shouldn't price it too expensive that it's beyond reach of normal bikers.
The problem is, kedai moto jack up the price like crazy.
Like we have seen for the Y15ZR and the NVX. (and also the RS150 la...)

ya lor..both Y15 and RS all OTR already 10k++..damn mahal..

What? Really? So Expensive.

How about Suzuki. Nobody seem to talk about it much. Is it any good?

How bout the Smash Revo and Smash V115?





Or Shogun Axelo?



Or Smash Fi?

Suzuki technology is good.
For example; the Belang, the engine has oil cooler and it's DOHC.

IIRC, it also has 3 engine modes (Suzuki Drive Mode Switch (SDMS) System - Normal, PWR & ECO).

These kind of technology wasn't available in other competitors at that time.

But re-sale value and certain spare parts are expensive / hard to get compared to Honda and Yamaha.
That's why not as sellable as other brands.

The Belang R looks are... unique? And different. Not my taste tbh. But the scarce of spare part have some truth to it, I've rarely encountered a Suzuki kapcai on the road.

+1. Agreed.
Not everyone in MY likes this "half fairing" kind of mopeds.
Previously Suzuki sold the RC80 in this half fairing and Honda with its Hurricane.
Read more here:
LYN Suzuki thread

Suzuki has closed its factory in Malaysia two years ago..now only focus on big bikes CBU..

No new models if you want one..2nd hand probably got

yes, they are good in introducing new technology here..but somehow people reluctant to buy one compared to the other two Japanese giants, Y and H

After beli the Suzi, who will do the warranty, keep the spare parts and after-sales?
Do you know?
Because I have seen some new V-Strom in KL area. So I'm curious to know.

aiya got dealers punya mar.. for eg the bike shop sinsienhuat? (name wrong) in klang is a big susuki dealer..

so everthing is go back to dealers.. jz like normal bike..

got alot of old rg on the road.. old timers r still using it.

they r still able to maintain it bcos got alot of not ori spare parts.

the issue of suzuki parts expensive is cause by local dealers all gang up to 'destroy' susuki malaysia.

they (dealers) will jack up the price of ori parts. refuse to stock parts, use non ori parts to cheat customers say is ori..

tis is wht i found out as susuki kapchai owner for 22years.

why? i m not sure.

as for belang.. why i choose it instead of lc (at tht time) is bcos. less parts - air cooled, no fairing.. will give less problem in the long run..

wana diy oso ez.. cos so much less plastic hassle to remove..

OK!

see susuki big bike dealer... lol..

taukey busat wit gsx.. the king is back...!!

This post has been edited by basilisk: Jan 23 2018, 11:56 AM

they still have presence here..but as I said..only for big bikes..all CBU unit..that's why you will see SV650 is aroung rm41k..where you can get the CKD Kawa Z650 at only rm35k and Y MT-07 around 37k..

if small bike spart parts, might need to source to Indo

their new website
Suzuki Malaysia

my family last suzuki was the GSX110..my grandpa has a few cub model dono what exactly..then we moved to Honda..from Ex5 class1, Wave 125R, Wave 125x to Future..now start with Yamaha..FZ..and I plan to get Y15..hehe

for me depends on few criteria.

1. How KM of daily commute? (for me of below 100km daily better use below 150cc bike)
2. Most of route Hiway or federal road? (for me if most route is federal road with jam better use below 150cc bike)
3. what is your size(height and weight)? (for me some person body size better suite above 150cc bike)
4. What is your budget ?
5. Planning to use Box storage? (for me some bike look weird wih box, while some just look nice with box)

for me Yamaha LC135 suite me well, in term of

1. Price (mid range price for kapchai)
2. Usability (no klac easy ride on jam road)
3. Reliability (130k mileage , change some part not major but for me still acceptable)
4. Maintenance (easy and affordable, can go any shop mostly they have spare part ready)
5. Fuel consumption 90-100km per full tank (3± litter)
6. Speed standard LC135 can go 115±km/h GPS (since route not involve in high speed most of the time, LC135 sufficient for me)

but then.. still depends on luck.. some new bike got problem.. some old bike still ride strong.. one thing muse be done is maintenance... once bike maintenance is maintain.. the longevity bike life span will be..

This post has been edited by -oc-gassa: Jan 23 2018, 12:10 PM

for current models still got alot ori parts la.. ive jz been to their hq to buy parts..

oso still got parts stockist in every state tht order for user fom hq.

and oso can buy frm their former staff who will ship direct to user..

so thts how it is now..

soon will hard to get maybe..seen less of the small suzuki kapchai now..I actually wanted the Shogun with clutch..but got Future instead..

Boss, still pakai belang lagi? Baru beli sekenhen tak sampai sebulan, tengah pecut tetiba power loss temporarily.... any idea why? Planning to change carb/cdi lepas dapat gaji anyway.

ya still pakai belang, but i not kaki pulas..
so i kinda bought the wrong bike..
wht todo cos tht time.. 2009 oni tis belalang got 150cc..

ur power loss is on or off or everytime when exceed certain rpm like 5k?

if everytime happen when pulas.. maybe is diaphram pecah.. hv u change that part?

https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3495227/all

Not yet change because later want to change whole carb anyway. Thanks to your comment, read that diaphragm problem is common (weak diaphragm?), and explains power losing after pulas over certain rpm.

Would it be late to get a motobike licence? I mean i have 5 yrs car driving (parents car) experiences and i still in my 20s. I would consider motobike as mode of transport for work route becos it is cheap to maintain, less traffic jam issues, low installment and cheapest mode of transportation. IT is wise to consider???

But there is cons as well, incident happened more often as motobike, road hazard to motobike will cause much more serious damage....i open to all kind of advice and judgment.

do you have riding experience? well it's not hard, and it's never too late to get license. so no worries.

you'll save more than 50% of transportation expenses and of course time spent on the road once you ride to work, believe me

Did you decide on which bike yet? Lazy to read the whole thing so I will just give my input here

Go for the Modenas MR2. My dad currently using one (well..more like abusing one..) One of the cheapest at RM3200 OTR (cash bought here in Gombak middle of 2017), good quality ride for city (bit underpowered for highway travel), quite reliable engine and quality, and Modenas will come to your place and repair your bike on the spot if there is any problem (as long as it is under warranty).

Mind you my dad is the type of use for 2 year max then sold off and get new bike type of guy. He have no understanding of motorcycle servicing and maintenance.

Spare part wise will never be an issue..

It is a good choice and very cheap too.

Get the license first, then decide whether riding a bike is your thing or not. I have 13 years driving experience, and then i decided to learn motor in November, passed my B Full test early this month. Then got a KTM Duke 390 and really enjoying the feeling of riding a motorcycle.

As for safety, yea if you get hit the damage is more significant than compared to when you get hit in a car. But avoiding an accident is easier on a motorcycle as its smaller and you have a better view around you due to the height and unrestricted view. If you see the statistics, the highest fatal accident rate comes from the 17-20 age group, young riders who have no road experience and riding dangeriously. 90 percent of motorcycle accidents can be avoided if the rider was careful and skillful.

it's never too late to take bike riding license

need to be a little more careful then

i think people should take both license..and experience both driving and riding..so they would know, understand and tolerate each other better

agree. when we have both experience, we tolerate more towards each other on the road. greater sensitivity too

Thanks for the in depth review on Modenas MR2. But the problem is I rarely see one of this bike in the market. How is the fc? Is it using carburetor or fi?

rarely see because you will be mistaken it for sym or demak models..honestly, it doesnt look like anything that came out from Modenas. Because it is a China-source design

it still use carb. Modenas really need to step up its game. Rebadging Bajaj only for the upper end of the CC but not the kapchai..wrong move, kaput la..nasib baik cheap..

ya change carb no nid change lo... cos d getah very thin. will bocor in a few years. cost oni ~12.xx wit gst. but some mofo bike shop will charge over 30.xx not including labour..

Been using Honda RS150 for the past 1 year. So far I didnt face any problem with the bike. Personally I think this bike is good enough for city ride.

i have no vibration issue on my future(carb). but engine rod spoiled below 23000km.

lucky you..it's quite a famous issue for Honda Future..

i hv tested future wave fi 2017. new bike few months old.

i would say the vibration is the engine's characteristic..
it oni got 4gear, so @ top gear @ 60kmh. can feel the small bakul very very buzzy..

no tacho, so dono wht rpm..
for sure alot rider kenot tahan 60kmh. n will pulas to 100 or over. so i can imagine how the vibs will go..

so if ride like tht, sure very fast go longgar.. esp if ride long distance everyday. if one day use like 30km-50km mebe can tahan abit..



This post has been edited by basilisk: Jan 26 2018, 04:31 PM

I don't really mind for the bike to go longgar, I just mind if my bone gone longgar. 2 hours ride everyday with vibration will broke this brittle body of mine.

as the bike is kinda new. i din feel it on my butt tht much. hands ya can feel. feet oso can feel..
but if i touch the basket.. kinda like whoa.. buzz kinda high..

n tht was oni 60kmh liddat..

i think u hv to get kapchai at least 5 gear punya.. wit abit more overdrive feel..

This post has been edited by basilisk: Jan 26 2018, 04:35 PM

Hi. is that 2018 version KTM? heard previous model had air box problem. how's the new version?
Pls share more on riding experience. pros & cons. thinking to get one

yes. after kenah. then i go ask around. quite common for most people.

it has good distance 200km per tank. and convenient helmet space.

But already modify the exhaust?

4th gear at 60kmh? i usually rode 4th gear at 80-100..but for a 125cc, 60kmh at top gear is very surprisingly low

my future got problem now..engine need to set very high rev..due to too hard to start in the morning..resulting in bad fuel consumption (rm5 every 2 days)

some shop will give you mod exhaust foc..