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post Jul 24 2018, 09:47 AM

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QUOTE(vsmseiko @ Jul 24 2018, 09:13 AM)
Good for u bro! Seem like a happy bunny.
Is yr tv located in a bright room? How does dark/night scenes in movies play out? Any comments. Better than expected i hope?
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Located in living room. So, it is never dark dark.

I will say dark scenes come out much better than previous non hdr model, esp 2160p hdr10 videos.

Of course, it depends on the quality of the source.
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post Jul 24 2018, 11:22 AM

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QUOTE(vsmseiko @ Jul 24 2018, 10:22 AM)
Thks. Ok shd be similar conditions as mine..... my proposed set up similar ie 60inch with Q10/Unifi 100mbs n hypetv.

Deciding on sharp sound bar for easy set up/space saving or AVR ie reuse old Pioneer 5.1 HTIB!

Need to figure out best location for 60 inch and above as current location can only fit 49inch 😐. Btw did yr package come with free wall bracket?
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I have never been a fan of soundbars, never used one.
Better spend a bit more to get an entry level 5.1! biggrin.gif
Old htib... may be problematic if connections are too old.
Still, if it worked before even with optical input, can be quite alright.

No, i used existing bracket on wall panel.
The tv is said to be 39kg.

If u have q10pro and a good video collection, this tv will work good for u.
More so if have a theater system.
Q10pro produces excellent video and audio output with good sources.
Great picture, great audio, apa lagi mahu? biggrin.gif

This tv may not be among the latest and the greatest as in gled, xled, zled... tongue.gif
But for its price, what it delivers, together with androidtv... pretty good.
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post Jul 24 2018, 11:46 AM

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QUOTE(owen1509 @ Jul 24 2018, 11:21 AM)
Does the “HDR” in the display apply to Netflix/YouTube content as well? Because I tried playing HDR content from those 2 and don’t see any “HDR” when I press the display button. Maybe my internet connection is too slow. 😜
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Netflix, last page, xxcolex mentioned that.
I am not certain as i am not using netflix.

Youtube, i doubt it.
The display button does not work with it.
You can check at stats for nerds but i think for 4k, it only shows 3840x2160, no mention of hdr.
Using my box, a youtube 4k hdr video is displayed as just 2160p, no hdr.
So, i guess its the same with youtube from tv.
No idea if this is due to licensing or app version or some other restriction.
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post Jul 24 2018, 12:49 PM

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QUOTE(Harddisk @ Jul 24 2018, 12:18 PM)
If you're willing and your Denon AVR supports ARC, you could try installing VLC to test out media files with DTS/DTS-HD/DD+/DD ATMOS and etc.

VLC could play them (with sound on TV speakers), just dunno if ARC passthrough would be DTS/DTS-HD/DD+/DD ATMOS streams or not. Can get those files from Dolby website or search for Dolby trailers hosted on thedigitaltheater.com.

I'm curious.
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i hv tried them in the older tv, which i think is the same.

vlc can play and get aac audio only.

using vlc, mx, es player, yes player, xplayer... also can but problems with subtitles, fwd, rwd, etc... a waste of time, imo. tongue.gif

these free players can't do much; paid versions possibly better; tv makers will not spend money for licensing, etc.

rightly so as they compete on display-picture, not audio and playback players which should be left to other people.

i never bothered too much with hdmi arc or optical as i dun use tv for files playback.

got a much better box for that.
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post Jul 24 2018, 02:19 PM

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QUOTE(stasio @ Jul 24 2018, 01:26 PM)
It's remote control as bellow ?:
user posted image
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yes... but with english labels, not chinese.

QUOTE(voncrane @ Jul 24 2018, 01:45 PM)
Damn... I really should have waited till this year to purchase main TV.. So much more for much lesser cost.. Can't wait till can upgrade.. Congrats..  thumbup.gif
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i am also surprised by the price of this one... bigger n better but cheaper than its predecessor 2.5 yrs ago!

this purchase was considered 6 months ago... waited for AV fair.

now, i have 2 home theater sets - one for all in the family and one for myself in a room.

if anything else i have to say, it will be... start junking sd/720p files, keep only full 1080p/2160p/hdr/bdmv's.

more so with 800mbps coming, nice! thumbup.gif
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post Jul 24 2018, 04:53 PM

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QUOTE(stasio @ Jul 24 2018, 02:21 PM)
Storage space....8GB(?)
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correct, can see the info on the tv somewhere...
QUOTE(shebbycs @ Jul 24 2018, 04:03 PM)
1) Did u compare playing video on usb port tv and himedia pro?
    How is the quality?
2) Noob question, what is denon avr and what is the function of
    this avr?
3) the tv connected through wifi or LAN? did you compare on
    both of these?
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1. TV makers make TVs; BD/DVD makers make BD/DVD disc players; media player make media players.
a TV maker will not make a great player - that's not their core biz.
a TV player is a bonus for light use; some are better than others.
there are many types of videos, many formats, many kinds of rips, many kinds of video quality or audio quality.
if u r a light user playing small files, any player incl a tv player will do.
if u r a serious AV person, u go for the best, whether discs or soft media.
for a movie, a small file is <1gb whereas a big one can be up to 90gb.
a TV display is only as good as the source and the player.
a good TV is wasted if one plays only poor grade files.
surely u can see the diff now. biggrin.gif
i never use the tv player, only for tests, to know; been using media players for 10 years.
difference is not only video or audio quality but in navigation, subtitles, file transfer, frame rate switching, watching via wifi, etc.
media or android box players - they come in many brands, models, capabilities, price - u can find the thread(s) for this topic.

2. AVR = audio visual receiver, an "amplifier" that takes input from a player/source and deliver video to TV, audio to speakers - home theater.
You dun need AVR if u dun care about audio - just connect player to TV direct, get audio from TV.

3. My TV is just next to router, wifi is as good as ethernet.
Another TV is 55 ft away, still getting good wifi... u gotta have good speed and good router for that.
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post Jul 24 2018, 05:43 PM

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QUOTE(voncrane @ Jul 24 2018, 05:30 PM)
C'mon OLED, becum cheaper..  biggrin.gif
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tech will become cheaper only if it gets adopted widely in the industry.

if it doesn't it dies... like betamax, palm pilot and netscape.

at this time, i am not convinced oled, dolby vision and dtsx will make it.

in a couple years time , we may see Zled, JupiterVision, 16K. laugh.gif

so, i stick to the traditionals - LED, HDR, DTSHDMA/DDTRUEHD. tongue.gif
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post Jul 24 2018, 09:08 PM

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QUOTE(shebbycs @ Jul 24 2018, 06:33 PM)
based on your [1] answer, let say I got movie that is 4gb or 8gb in mp4 format so better I plug through tv usb or using that Android box?
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i dun hv any mp4 videos anymore, not a file type i wanna keep long term.

but i wud suggest u check if the file has dolby, dts or other audio.

many tv's can't do dts or higher... do only dolby or lower... some can... that, u gotta ask in other tv threads.

this sharp tv for this thread - NO, it can't do dts and higher.


one thing... if u MUST do mp4, u can always buy a cheap box... rm300 or so - it will work.

becos mp4 is basic.




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post Jul 24 2018, 09:51 PM

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QUOTE(Harddisk @ Jul 24 2018, 09:49 PM)
or install VLC player to support a lot of formats.  laugh.gif
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u tried already? what tv? results?
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post Jul 24 2018, 10:06 PM

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QUOTE(Harddisk @ Jul 24 2018, 09:57 PM)
45UA6800X (I think it was 45", definitely smaller than 50 one). Tested it at ESH Starling Mall, cause I wanna find out if the TV could output DD+/DTS-HD.

Like I said earlier, VLC could play them + sound from TV speakers. But dunno about ARC side. Hopefully this pique your curiosity.  laugh.gif
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nah, i dun need.

u gotta pester somebody else. biggrin.gif
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post Jul 25 2018, 11:11 AM

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a few more comments i can make on the tv:

.. this tv has only 2 (two) usb ports... previous model has 3.
use one for mouse, there is just one left for other things - sideload, playback...

.. when using unifi tv stb (or astro decoder, i think), check the input to see if it is set to "underscan" and not "full".
if "full", the sides will be cropped. other inputs like local playback, it is set to dot by dot, no other choice.

.. when doing live streaming, whether tv apps or from another device, do not be alarmed if sometimes the info box on top left comes on and off.
this happens when the stream is weak, the tv has trouble detecting the quality of the stream. with string streams, it does not happen.

.. if the tv is sluggish or needs a restart, go to settings/about/restart.
this will clear cache, restart the android. the restart in this model is much faster than the previous one.
note after restart, u gotta activate landscape option in rotation app again if using astrogo.


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post Jul 25 2018, 12:07 PM

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QUOTE(XxlicolexX @ Jul 25 2018, 11:44 AM)
Can use Bluetooth keyboard mouse
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yes, for devices with BT.
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post Jul 25 2018, 03:00 PM

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QUOTE(Selangor guy @ Jul 25 2018, 02:40 PM)
Yes I should think so but every China app is different
Sharp tech guy told me many customers complained about system abnormalities due to 3rd party or sideloaded apps so they ended up sending tech guy to do reset
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I think he meant tv usb playback... which i dunno.


About sideloads, i agree... do not sideload all kinds of stuff, may brick the tv.

Many apps contain malware, ads, intrusive elements.

Better keep to proven, popular ones like astrogo, unifi playtv, cloudtv.
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post Jul 25 2018, 03:31 PM

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QUOTE(nyunyu @ Jul 25 2018, 03:26 PM)
How do you get 5 years warranty?
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Sharp std warranty is 2 years.

Only during promotion periods u get +3 for free.

Visit the stores, see if promo still on.

This tv.... many promotions, offers in last 6 months.

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post Jul 25 2018, 05:45 PM

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QUOTE(Selangor guy @ Jul 25 2018, 05:15 PM)
U work for Astro? I'm sensing damage control la
Why would anyone sacrifice free Youtube for Astro go, seriously?
Astro should fear Android TV system for exclusion
With deregulation, Astro is losing market share
The problem with Astro was that it had monopoly so customers must buy their worthless programs

nyunyu, 2+5 yrs warranty isn't a promotion because every shop sells it
Malaysia economy still slow la under Mahathir Mohamad
The actual promotion has to do with % discount + free gifts

Sharp tech guy referred to our Android system
I do support sideloading apps but need more info before I proceed
Resetting is a major pain
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I dun understand... what u mean by i work for astro??

What scarifice youtube?

Please explain.


I am not astro subscriber but i use a subscriber's id n pw - every subscriber can have n share 4 devices for the free app.

You find that a problem?


You have a phobia for android apps on the tv?

Why? U never used an android device before?

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post Jul 25 2018, 06:29 PM

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QUOTE(shebbycs @ Jul 25 2018, 06:15 PM)
One more noob question but b4 that my mistake that one not mp4 size but mkv size

My question is when u said sharp tv cannot do dts and higher, it is related with himedia pro? Still confused sad.gif
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The tv in this thread cannot do dts with native player... i have tried enough.

Other player apps installed on the tv like mx or vlc, i think not, but u gotta try them.


Himedia 10pro is a separate standalone box... it has nothing to do with the tv.

It plays hdd files, streams and deliver to tv or avr.

Search for android box, u find many threads on such devices.
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post Jul 25 2018, 06:36 PM

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QUOTE(Selangor guy @ Jul 25 2018, 06:19 PM)
It ain't my biz but u have been promoting that company
Now that it's cleared up this subject matter is now closed

How many times have u resetted your 630x with all sideloaded apps?
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Sorry, subject not closed until u explain, clarify and apologize if necessary.

U cannot write shit and accuse someone wrongly and just walk away.


Now, I see... becos i say astrogo a lot, u think i work n promote astro. biggrin.gif

How ridiculous... i dumped astro... subscription, decoder, dish... 6 years ago.

Now, i use the app only... free... becos my fren is kind to share with me.

Now, do u really know diff between astro, astrogo and astro njoi?? sweat.gif

If it is your ignorance at work, please do more work next time before u vomit.


As for the tv resetting, it auto resets sometimes... what is your point?

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post Jul 25 2018, 07:22 PM

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QUOTE(shebbycs @ Jul 25 2018, 06:37 PM)
I just saw and read himedia 10pro thread, is it any different if i put my movie in hdd and put in himedia and play or i plug the usb at himedia usb port and play

any quality different?
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YES.

this, i can help u.

sorry if i had assumed too much... becos i have been using media boxes for 10 years while others have not used any before.

see if this helps...

.. smart tv's... as a bonus and "market demand", they include a usb port for u to plug into it, play the video.
.. depending on the tv, there are issues about video formats, audio formats, subtitiles, audio selection, etc.
.. i always hold this opinion - tv's players are good for simple use; they cannot deal with more complex files.

.. there are many devices u can get on yr own and play the video inside the HDD - bluray/DVD player, media player, android box.
.. bluray/DVD players today can play 4kHDR discs, has USB port to play soft media, i.e HDD as well - price... rm2-4K??
.. "media player" is obsolete... go back 8-10 years, u buy WDlive or ACRyan... these boxes do HDD playback very well...but... can't stream online.
.. by 2011, media players closed shop, gave way to ANDROID BOXES - these can playback HDD videos AND stream online if internet speed is good.
.. today, android boxes are popular becos of playback + online streaming - 100 brands, 1000 models, all kinds of features, versions, prices.
read:
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4200167
(i do not post in that thread anymore beocs most users look for cheap boixes, while i prefer more costly and more capable ones.)
.. himedia Q10pro is the flagship of android box maker Himedia (shenzhen, china)... i hv one... plays (almost) EVEYRTHING... video or audio.
.. there are other equivalent good boxes - a matter of price and the specific features... u need to decide what u want to decide which is BEST for u.
.. the is no BESTEST box, but a matter of features priorities.

your question about QUALITY... a cheap player as in the tv or a cheap box - u get the video but little else.
a good box player will be able to play the highest quality video and audio files and deliver it nicely to yr TV, AVR and speakers.
now, if u hv simple needs,... save all the money... just play at the tv... u get tv audio, mediocre video quality... but why not?!
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post Jul 25 2018, 09:23 PM

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QUOTE(owen1509 @ Jul 25 2018, 07:51 PM)
Hmm... strange, the Astro OTG app I downloaded from apkmirror stopped working this afternoon. It keeps on crashing, even after factory reset of the tv it doesn’t work anymore. :-/
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did u...

1. install indic keyboard and set it to default (instead of leanback keyboard)?

2. install rotation lock app and activate it to landscape?
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post Jul 26 2018, 09:41 AM

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QUOTE(shebbycs @ Jul 26 2018, 08:59 AM)
thanks I got ur point but my main question was if I put my movie in hdd and put inside himedia pro or If I just plug my usb drive to usb slot on himedia pro, is it any different in term of quality or same?
2. Since u said himedia pro is separate android box together with sharp ua6800x as android tv, in term of fast output & user friendly which one is better? Maybe can provide some ss on ur review smile.gif
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himedia q10pro has a compartment for HDD inside (most boxes don't); has 3 USB ports too.
the quality output from HDD whether from internal or external is the same.
since disc reading, data processed by same.

a box is more versatile - bigger memory, storage, can do more apps.
easier to use, navigate.
output quality depends on the box... better boxes give better video and audio for playback.

the tv's androidtv is capable for most android apps alto it takes a bit more work to sideload since it is androidtv and not generic android like boxes.
output quality from apps or tv player is marginally inferior compared to my box.
then again, i wud think my box is among the better ones; can't say same for cheap boxes.

the androidtv in the tv is handy in that u can just switch on tv and play an app - e.g. for news... u need not switch on the box.
that's how i use it - androidtv for casual viewing.

the box is for playback, "serious" streaming, home theater audio, files management/transfer, downloading, and wifi streaming from pc.

it's good to have both...!



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