Why? That 'expert' is not the TS mah! First he bragged about going through tribunal now he realised that tribunal don't give a shxt about this kind of case! Lol!

Next time if you have nothing much better to say, it is better to shut your mouth.

You still don't get it? I have mentioned it before that if you have got nothing better to post, it is better that you don't post anything as it is making you look like a fool. All your drivel above are irrelevant.

You still haven't clarified about what do you mean by "REALITY BITES".

anyone know small claim court cover "undertaken repair"?

if yes, then op can go for small claim court?



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The police has advised that it is the Civil Court that the case shall be submitted to. The Small Claims Court is not applicable as the claims are for purchased goods or services. Since this case is an accident by a 3rd party, the Small Claims Court does not cover the case. I suggested the OP to check with the officer since he didn't have the right information to submit in his case. Actually the police should have advised on this Civil Court very much earlier.

Why so quiet? Come and share what you meant by your earlier remark about "REALITY BITES" so I can judge whether you are in the same ranks with the other guy or not.

Send in ktards to mob his car and throw 2 chicken eggs on the windscreen everyday. He cannot prove the chicken eggs are my idea. Oh wai...

Bro..there is one famous Chinese saying: When a gentleman wants to revenge, 10 years also not too late, 君子报仇，十年未晚

As long as I submit this lawsuit to court with complete documents, I have done the best on my part.
I cannot control how long time the court will take to put the punishment on the offender.

Well, the last resource maybe is YB Lim Lip Eng


Thank you for your mentally support..

Bro, The sergeant that I met was a coward. He is always afraid other people wants to sue him.

I think Sergeant had expected I was able to claim the insurance from the offender but all of us were not aware
the offender actually did not have the car insurance until I went to JPJ to find out last week.

Sergeant's assistant (who teased me) said the Kes Keputusan letter worth few thousand ringgit..

This morning I also called legal aids centre, the most helpful one is Shah Alam branch, Tel: 03-5510 7007
http://www.malaysianbar.org.my/legal_aid_centres.html

This is what I have learned from legal aids today:
Court has 3 types:
(1) High court -- for big case like murder
(2) Sesyen court -- for claim above RM 10K
(3) Magistrate court -- for claim under RM 10K
And each court has civil court & criminal court.

So for my case, I should go to civil court which is under Magistrate court.

I went to Kompleks Mahkamah KL this late afternoon, unfortunately I was late for 3 minutes when I arrived there, they closed at 4.00pm.

Thank you so much for your support to give me momentum so that I can move forward..

Because we were all focusing and working on to claim the offender's car insurance in the first place...
But later only I found out this offender did not have insurance from the JPJ record last week.
Then when I went to see Sergeant yesterday (chrismas Monday) to inform him about no car insurance matter, Sergeant's assistant (who teased me) suggested me to file claim to civil court on Jalan Tuanku Abdul Halim (old name Jalan Duta).

This is sergeant's thought: since I already have the Kes Keputusan latter from Sergeant, Sergeant's job is complete, don't kacau him anymore.

This post has been edited by TangkapPenipu: Dec 27 2017, 12:54 PM

Bro, unfortunately, I did not have the video cam installed in my car, otherwise, I uploaded it to Youtube already..

Now since I have the Kes Keputusan letter (a license to sue, and it worth few thousands Ringgit according to police) from Sergeant,
I want to see how effective is this letter can be used in court.

It is a good idea to submit my case story to newspapers.. But who can assist?

And what do you mean by mamak 2.0?

Thank you for your support..


Bro, since I have the Kes Keputusan Letter from Sergeant, nobody can twist the fact that what is stated on the letter.
If worry this and worry that, then how to make thing happens? No need to worry too much lah..

I will not migrate, and I have no money to migrate..

This post has been edited by TangkapPenipu: Dec 26 2017, 10:02 PM

Don't need to reply to the useless fellow already. You must be very generous to respond to people who not only have given you wrong information but discouraged you from taking up the case. At first he suggested NOTHING CAN BE DONE and after he knew something can be done he then mentioned "Keep us posted BRO, I also hope you can Menang in this case" which is stupid. You will surely win the case since you already have the Keputusan from the police, and the court proceeding is just a follow-up for the claims to the damage on your vehicle and also to get the offender to pay for his offense he has committed. The further talk about wasting time and burning year end holidays are again a lame tactic to get you to drop the case.

As for the Chinese proverb, well, even 20 years is not too late. Some might say if not 20 years, it can be the after-life or next generation. Well, that's a bit too dramatic just like in the movies. Revenge is not good to some or most religions, but in this case, it's about getting justice served and most importantly, exercise your rights as a law-abiding citizen.

Kudos to you for sticking to your original plan and having good principles, unlike some useless good-for-nothing chaps who constantly tried to discourage you by posting nonsense.

This post has been edited by Dwango: Dec 27 2017, 10:40 AM

Good job. After going through all this process, nobody can fool you next time by posting rubbish. On the other hand, it's you will be able to give the proper/accurate advice when someone else needs it. It's the experience that counts.

Kudos for proceeding with the case. It may cost you a lot of time and effort to get compensation but you will be (hopefully) getting an irresponsible and reckless driver off the road and save future victims from being hit with no insurance claim. Hopefully the court suspends his license and impose a stiff fine for driving without insurance and road tax.

Thank you for all your postings. I've learned something new & useful, today.

Good luck in your future endeavours. May the force be with you.

Looks like there is closure to the case in the end. I agree that it is prudent to proceed with the case although there might be some who may think otherwise. Time should not be a hindrance unless you are working overseas etc. There will always be some effort to carry out a task, whether it's claiming for insurance in the event of an accident or something else. If the task is for a good cause then by all means go ahead with it.

There will always be law for cases such as these, so I am not surprised that you can always take up this case. The idea of "nothing can be done" is surely absurd and I am surprised there can be such claims on this thread.

Bro, if you read my original post, I did say you should go file under Small Claims Court - it is filed under Magistrates’ Court through the small claims procedure (Order 93 Rules of Court 2012 (ROC)). https://www.consumer.org.my/index.php/compl...l-claims-courts

Small Claims Tribunal if you have problems with a legitimate company https://ttpm.kpdnkk.gov.my/portal/index.php/en/

In fact, if you have anyone who owe you money, you can initiate a Small Claims Court procedure to get back up to RM5,000.

The debtor can be arrested & jailed, or even seize goods at their registered address to be sold off to pay you off.

Hope you get your money back bro - although you need to go through so much hassle to get it back...

Anyway, JPJ should kejar the offender since he is driving without roadtax & insurance - basically the guy is a road menace!

It's worth noting that the Small Claims Procedure under the Magistrate's Court, you can only claim back the money owed to you (the work done to fully repair your car back to safe driving condition), you can't expect the court to penalize the driver further (license suspension etc). This depends only on the public prosecutor whether to charge the guy in court, and it's only done if you make a police report. Highly unlikely this will happen though, unless it's a high profile case.

This post has been edited by isr25: Dec 27 2017, 03:06 PM

That's disappointing....after all that hassle, TS highly likely won't get the justice he desired....

Seems like an incentive to stay in this grey zone of the law for selfish benefit....

Bro, I have heard many people asked me to give-up, examples like below:
(1) normal workshop -- they said this is a small damage, repair it by your own lah
(2) PIAM workshop -- they said they cannot help and it is no way to claim if another party has no insurance
and even also (3) a big organization like PIAM -- http://www.piam.org.my/ -- they said I will waste time and energy to file a lawsuit, nothing can be done unless if I hire a lawyer.

No matter what they say, I will stick with my principle.
I want to see how efficient is Malaysia's law to catch these traffic violators.

Thanks Bro..

Yes Bro, I really hope I can share my experience with people and so that they will know how to handle this case if this happens unlucky to them next time.

This post has been edited by TangkapPenipu: Dec 27 2017, 06:07 PM