Seargent gave me a sample letter of sumpah (as attached below), he just asked me to claim car insurance from the offender.
Sergeant did not mention about the offender Chen Yoon Kwee had no insurance & road tax.

I just found out Chen Yoon Kwee has no insurance & road tax from JPJ few days ago.

I am checking out the post by ISR25.
Thanks Bro..



Thanks Bro


This post has been edited by TangkapPenipu: Dec 23 2017, 02:45 PM

Ok. Whatever it is, do pursue on the case. It is unbelievable these days that there are still people who have the guts to drive around without a valid road tax and/or insurance on their vehicles. And worse still, the offender didn't offer any compensation after an accident and can still walk away scot-free. Doesn't make any sense isn't it? He has committed two offenses and by right he should pay both fines. Otherwise he could end up in jail.

Third party claim against the offender is nil! Own damage claim is valid but you will lose your NCD and also you need yo check whether your car policy is with a excess clause.

I just realized this from reading on this thread, so what is the point of us having to pay road tax and car insurance? Seems like nothing can be done to him, no road tax and no car insurance, police also say cannot do anything, is this for real?

Someone please enlighten me

remember there is two different case.
case 1. car accident - go traffic polis station report for car accident.
Case 2. None register car and invalid supporting OTR doc, that is crime (cheating GOV), that u should go to normal polis station to make report. (cause Traffic n Normal polis is two different division).
good luck.

Like that next time no need renew our car roadtax and insurance and go on a spree

Send his details to JPJ. They may be more willing to take action than the police who have their hands full with more priority cases.

Yes the worst trait to follow is don't care. Seek the justice and teach these crooks a lesson.

I had heard cases where non-reporting party can be summoned as well, although the process is longer and the offense clearly shown by that party.

Frankly speaking, a roadtax of a car is just to avoid polis saman us when they do roadblock only

car roadtax doesn't help anything, that's why nowadays so many motorcycle don't have road tax, & olden parents always ask us to be careful on motorcycle, don't bang them, it is not claimable, simply because mostly motorcycle don't have roadtax & majority of them are under-age or foreigner that don't even have LISENCE

Why need to claim your own insurance when it is not your own fault?

The appropriate thing to do here is to carry out the repair by using your own money and not by claiming through your own insurance. Then, with the police report and the bill of repair together with other necessary documents, submit them to the Small Claims Court tribunal to get the offender to the court to claim for the expenses. I'm not sure if other additional expenses to the repair bill such as time and cost of the hassle that the offender had brought can be included in the claim too, such as mileage claims and taking leave from the job to attend to all these.

However, the most important thing is to get the offender charged in court for giving you the hassle since the user here cannot claim on the offender's insurance policy since he doesn't have one. If the offender was summoned to court, he will not only need to compensate the plaintiff but also pay the fine for the offense he had committed for not having a valid vehicle road tax and insurance on the vehicle. The police should have issued the summons to the offender in the first place but apparently that had not taken place yet. Or perhaps the police hasn't found about about this offense.

In your earlier post above, that's a poor attitude and example you are showing.

ok la, then you go claim la, i wish you all the best, i just telling my opinion only

opinion is only for reference, if no people want to know about it, i am ok of it

i just saying out only, no need to be so serious

if my advise is good for it, just proceed it

if got another better option, if workable, just go la

I raised this same question to a lady from PIAM last week --- http://www.piam.org.my/
She only said if no road tax, we will get into trouble when road block

I also raised this same question to Sergeant when he gave me the Kes Keputusan, he kept quiet..

I talked to JPJ few days ago about no insurance & no road tax from the offender, but JPJ asked me to report to police...
But when I requested the JPJ report of the offender, JPJ kept a photostat copy of the police report.

Thanks for your support..

This post has been edited by TangkapPenipu: Dec 24 2017, 01:15 PM

Bro,
Scenario (1): If the offender hits your car, then the offender is lucky, because you will not make a police report and let him go like this, since you think this is waste of
time to claim from him.

Scenario (2): But now for my case, I would say this offender is unlucky because he hits my car, I will not let him go without any judgment on him.

So back to scenario (1), this is the reason why this offender has the guts not to have insurance & road tax.
Because this offender expects nobody will sue him because of the troublesome like what you said.

And this is one of the reasons why nowadays some vehicles do not have road tax & insurance, because of the troublesome to sue like what you said.

Correct me if I am wrong..

This post has been edited by TangkapPenipu: Dec 24 2017, 01:39 PM

bro, i'm able to give you opinion because i gone through all these hassels, anyway, whatever i wanna tell you, i already shared to you,

others, it's your decision bro, hope you are successful ya, your thinking same as me last time, but...haha...good luck

I was just saying own damage claim is valid! If u are so free and plenty of money than go ahead and claim lor through tribunal ! No one is stopping you what! Btw, I applaud you for painting such a ideal scenario to TS! Everyone knows reality bites!

Bro,
Thanks so much for your opinion and input, I can imagine the hassles that you have gone thru.

I hope you can visit this thread often to see the update...

Yes, correct, cannot claim the offender's insurance, since the traffic offender does not have insurance.
No matter if I can claim or not, I will use my own money to repair first. I think not worth it to claim my NCD.

Thanks

Please calm down, Bro

There is no right or wrong in between you and Dwango, but just 2 different opinions and stand points in between (1) to claim & (2) not to claim.

Dwango is just sharing his valuable info how to claim only.

But if for the justice for all innocent citizens in Malaysia, we should take legal action to against those buggers to warn them do not violate the law like this again.

Thanks for you info.

This Christmas is a bit too cold....

This post has been edited by TangkapPenipu: Dec 24 2017, 06:18 PM

Can you clarify what is it about that "reality bites". What is that reality, please elucidate me.

Do you know how the Small Claims tribunal work? You don't need "plenty of money" but just a little of your time to get the case the tribunal. The purpose is not only with claims but to get the offender pay for going against the law.