Bumper got some minor scratches also, and the black inner layer inside fender is also broken.

Yes, according to a PIAM workshop, can claim, even if the damage is RM 200 also can claim, but provided the offender side has a valid car insurance.

If the offender does not make a police report but with a valid car insurance, the PIAM workshop can use OTKFK to claim from the offender's insurance.

But for my case, all people said I cannot claim (includes JPJ & PIAM Workshop) because the offender Chen Yoon Kwee has no car insurance.

Seargent gave me a sample letter of sumpah (as attached below), he just asked me to claim car insurance from the offender.
Sergeant did not mention about the offender Chen Yoon Kwee had no insurance & road tax.

I just found out Chen Yoon Kwee has no insurance & road tax from JPJ few days ago.

I am checking out the post by ISR25.
Thanks Bro.. 

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Thanks Bro 

Third party claim against the offender is nil! Own damage claim is valid but you will lose your NCD and also you need yo check whether your car policy is with a excess clause.

in Malaysia, citizens always got a mentality of ....x apa lah, ok lah, biar sahaja la...

so if you want to claim opponent of your regardless claim, i would advise you no need to waste such of time to follow up anymore

Non of the people will entertain your case, all of them will choose "lepas tangan" instead of giving up a hand to help you seriously.

Frankly speaking, a roadtax of  a car is just to avoid polis saman us when they do roadblock only

car roadtax doesn't help anything, that's why nowadays so many motorcycle don't have road tax, & olden parents always ask us to be careful on motorcycle, don't bang them, it is not claimable, simply because mostly motorcycle don't have roadtax & majority of them are under-age or foreigner that don't even have LISENCE

I was just saying own damage claim is valid! If u are so free and plenty of money than go ahead and claim lor through  tribunal ! No one is stopping you what!  Btw, I applaud you for painting such a ideal scenario to  TS! Everyone knows reality bites!

ok la, then you go claim la, i wish you all the best, i just telling my opinion only

opinion is only for reference, if no people want to know about it, i am ok of it

i just saying out only, no need to be so serious

if my advise is good for it, just proceed it

if got another better option, if workable, just go la

Yes, correct, cannot claim the offender's insurance, since the traffic offender does not have insurance.
No matter if I can claim or not, I will use my own money to repair first. I think not worth it to claim my NCD.

Thanks
Please calm down, Bro

There is no right or wrong in between you and Dwango, but just 2 different opinions and stand points in between (1) to claim & (2) not to claim.

Dwango is just sharing his valuable info how to claim only.

But if for the justice for all innocent citizens in Malaysia, we should take legal action to against those buggers to warn them do not violate the law like this again.

Thanks for you info.

This Christmas is a bit too cold.... 

I just went to police station this afternoon (Christmas Monday) to show to Sergeant about the JPJ report stating that this bugger did not have car insurance & road tax during
the accident. I was hoping Sergeant would key in this no insurance & no road tax info into his PC (such that bugger will get one more saman, and police will investigate this case
more seriously) but Sergeant did not, it seemed Sergeant was no longer interested to do any further investigation since he already gave me the Kes Keputusan Letter.

Inside Sergeant room, there was another traffic police, he suggested me to submit this case to Civil Court on Jalan Duta, he was not so sure if I can submit to Tribunal Small Claim
court or not since Tribunal Small Claim court is for consumer case.

This traffic police also mentioned the Kes Keputusan Letter I got from Sergeant is similar to "A License to Sue".
He also teased me to buy a law book to study by myself rather than keep coming to police station to "kacau" Sergeant 

Sergeant asked me: You sudah mari ke sini berapa kali?
I replied: kali ini sudah emapt kali 

Lastly, I asked Sergeant: Sergeant, boleh saya menang kes ini?
Sergeant replied: Mesti menang

So, I will call Triburnal to find out if I can submit this accident case to them or not?
https://ttpm.kpdnkk.gov.my/portal/index.php...ibunal-branches

Thank you for your support.. 
Will update here soon..

Yes, keep up posted bro, i also hope you can "MENANG" in this case

once case send up till court, it will takes minimal 2 years to settle it,

speedily of the process is not expected as we thought.

year end lotsa holiday & majority people also enjoying their life until next year 2018 after chinese new year. ( i guess)

since you are so motivated to follow up the case, i'm sure will support you

i still the same, don't think it can be resolve, maybe this is your first time to handle the case, that's why you are so energetic to settle it

time will proven slowly, i am sure after 6 month later, you will demotivate to handle & follow it anymore

trust me la bro

i also hope you can win this case,

hopefully you are not the person i mentioned ya

ok la, i stop posting your page liao, since you seems look down at me, k la , bye

after send up case to court

need to spend time to go for hearing

then need to wait court to justify

after that take times again for the settlement

either settle with opponent or straight give judgement

then from this matter, need to follow up with insurance company for claim

all these matter, not only need to spend your time, it also need to spend little of money

no doubt your evident is enough

i'm doubt of your time spending in settle this small case ya,

UNLESS YOU ARE BOSS OF THE COMPANY , CAN ALWAYS TAKE LEAVE UP & DOWN COURT AS ALWAYS YA

Why? That 'expert' is not the TS mah! First he bragged about going through tribunal now he realised that tribunal don't give a shxt about this kind of case! Lol!

anyone know small claim court cover "undertaken repair"?

if yes, then op can go for small claim court?
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Why? That 'expert' is not the TS mah! First he bragged about going through tribunal now he realised that tribunal don't give a shxt about this kind of case! Lol!

Bro..there is one famous Chinese saying: When a gentleman wants to revenge, 10 years also not too late, 君子报仇，十年未晚

As long as I submit this lawsuit to court with complete documents, I have done the best on my part.
I cannot control how long time the court will take to put the punishment on the offender.

Well, the last resource maybe is YB Lim Lip Eng
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Thank you for your mentally support.. 

Bro, The sergeant that I met was a coward. He is always afraid other people wants to sue him.

I think Sergeant had expected I was able to claim the insurance from the offender but all of us were not aware
the offender actually did not have the car insurance until I went to JPJ to find out last week.

Sergeant's assistant (who teased me) said the Kes Keputusan letter worth few thousand ringgit.. 

This morning I also called legal aids centre, the most helpful one is Shah Alam branch, Tel: 03-5510 7007
http://www.malaysianbar.org.my/legal_aid_centres.html

This is what I have learned from legal aids today: 
Court has 3 types:
(1) High court -- for big case like murder
(2) Sesyen court  -- for claim above RM 10K
(3) Magistrate court -- for claim under RM 10K
And each court has civil court & criminal court.

So for my case, I should go to civil court which is under Magistrate court.

I went to Kompleks Mahkamah KL this late afternoon, unfortunately I was late for 3 minutes when I arrived there, they closed at 4.00pm.

Thank you so much for your support to give me momentum so that I can move forward..
Because we were all focusing and working on to claim the offender's car insurance in the first place... 
But later only I found out this offender does not have insurance from the JPJ record last week.
Then when I went to see Sergeant yesterday (chrismas Monday) to inform him about no car insurance matter, Sergeant's assistant (who teased me) suggested me to file claim to civil court on Jalan Tuanku Abdul Halim (old name Jalan Duta).

This is sergeant's thought: since I already have the Kes Keputusan latter from Sergeant, Sergeant's job is complete, don't kacau him anymore.

http://www.sinarharian.com.my/mobile/edisi...-kereta-1.36418

same guy? from Salak Selatan Baru too.

Good luck bro for justice.

Yes, exactly like what you said.
He does not afraid of any legal action to against him.
He does not care whatever you do to against him; not only him, his whole family members' characters are also like that..

By the way, Chen Yoon Kwee has criminal record in police station... 
Now I can only sue him for my car damage based on my car repair receipt, which is RM 764.00
Another additional claim of RM 100 court's cost is set by the judge/court, RM 764+ RM 100 = RM 864 total claim.

And I also paid few time of processing fees to e-filing office, I think I already paid almost RM 100.

I will need to pick-up bailiff from court to Chen Yoon Kwee's house, after that I will need to send bailiff back to court.
Bailiff fee: RM 1000 (maybe will deduct mileage claim) + RM 28 fee (I think not refundable)

Usually I will print color photos to show to the judge as proof of delivery after I visited & delivered court letters to Chen Yoon Kwee's house.
Each color photo cost me RM 1.50. I print this from print shop because I do not have color printer. So far I think I already paid not more than
RM30 for color photos.

I also sent few AR registered mails to Chen Yoon Kwee, each AR registered mail cost me about RM 3.00, excluding my cost of petrol, time to post office;
and some stationery expenses like envelope, monochrome laser printer A4 size documents printing and etc...

I think after deduct this and that, RM 864 total claim should be gone and left nothing, maybe I also need to top up some more money from my wallet...