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JohnL77
post Aug 3 2018, 04:06 PM

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QUOTE(iskazulka @ Aug 3 2018, 12:25 PM)
as yhtan FC member, i agree LOL.

update
check out the official announcement.
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Super far pick up nobody force u to go also. Grab HG 5km pick up also telan only.
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post Aug 3 2018, 04:09 PM

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QUOTE(yhtan @ Aug 3 2018, 12:28 PM)

https://www.grab.com/my/our-commitment-to-a...-experience-kv/

It is out, but the long distance pick up only commit to provide u net RM1 per km, but not sure the measurement is accurate or not whistling.gif

After so long, they going to implement cancellation fee and passenger verification feature. Last time say susah lah by those grab management, after one case and minister pressure, everything come out so fast. whistling.gif
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Pick up bonus will be net or gross?

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post Aug 4 2018, 03:15 AM

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This is why My Destination hasn't been working properly and online hours got problem updating for the past few weeks. They were changing a lot of shieet.
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post Aug 4 2018, 03:20 AM

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QUOTE(Alert_RaZO @ Aug 4 2018, 01:18 AM)
Hi want to ask about car stuff.
Say i park my car and on aircon listen music for 30min wait for pin.
Will it delplete my car battery fast?
Because i have 4 months battery show weak already. Dunno whether it caused by that idling.
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You on engine or not? Or everything running on the battery?
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post Aug 4 2018, 07:32 PM

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QUOTE(Fanvil1534 @ Aug 4 2018, 04:43 PM)
source?
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https://www.grab.com/my/our-commitment-to-a...-experience-kv/
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post Aug 4 2018, 09:16 PM

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QUOTE(bojed @ Aug 4 2018, 08:53 PM)
I received a RM33 ping from Global Wheels Automative Kajang heading to Balakong when I was at Sungai Chua Petron. I accepted it and GMaps showed the pup distance was 11KM! I immediately cancelled the request. I kid you not, the rider's name was Barua 🤣

GGWP GMaps for guiding me wrongfully into a one-way street near Metro Kajang and saving me 200 meters while endangering my riders' lives as well as mine too. Didn't know it was a one-way street until two cars suddenly turned heading towards me from a T-junction. That was the first time GMaps played an asshole prank on me.
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Petrol station beside highway is a bad place to get ping.

First time I used Gmaps already go jalan salah. Didn't use Gmaps anymore after that except when Waze down.
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post Aug 4 2018, 11:22 PM

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QUOTE(moosekaka @ Aug 4 2018, 10:57 PM)
you maybe have not heard of Uber b4
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Why you become silent reader bro?

And then just come out of hiding to bash Uber lol.

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post Aug 4 2018, 11:23 PM

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QUOTE(bcombat @ Aug 4 2018, 10:02 PM)
Auto accept feature was first introduced in ublur app to help drivers to filter out the pings with pick up times more than 6 minutes and passager rating below 4.6.

crap copy and paste the AA features into own app but became something else.....like force drivers to accept all pings....copy also don't know how 2 copy.
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Always bashing Grab. Uber no more already la. biggrin.gif
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post Aug 4 2018, 11:26 PM

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QUOTE(zinglicious @ Aug 4 2018, 10:06 PM)
I am flexible man. No incentives to drive, I dun drive.  bruce.gif

And AA ? it is a big joke. why should drive risk driving someone to somewhere they are not comfortable where there is a lot of potholes or lonely roads? This is especially true for ladies even in the hot sunny afternoon where the wolves go hunting like in the Uber Puchong case?  rclxub.gif

Even the bus or taxi do not go on AA trips to go anywhere. Only Crap go AA in e Hailing platform where they are forcing the donkeys to take the bait with chicken feeds incentives,  .  vmad.gif
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Very good point about lady drivers. But I think there are very few female drivers so Grab don't care.
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post Aug 4 2018, 11:33 PM

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QUOTE(S3phiroth @ Aug 4 2018, 11:25 PM)
Since crap promises to increase the base fare at peak hour, HG drivers could just switch to flexi mode and accept small medium fare job with High Price tag or very big fare job only.

If majority of drivers do not on AA, then the priority of orders will no longer matters hence level the play ground among us.
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Grab promise a lot of things bro... Let's see how much the fare increases... I'm worried Surge will decrease because drivers in KL forced to on AA. Maybe the net effect is zero or a bit higher increase in fares only.
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QUOTE(zinglicious @ Aug 4 2018, 11:37 PM)
The ugly truth is a guy was murdered weeks ago and there are many unreported cases of robbery and abuses by the media.  vmad.gif

Crappy AA system is putting the drivers into risky twilight zones where they are forced to accept trips.  ranting.gif
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Few months ago majority here laughing away when Uber got bought over...
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post Aug 5 2018, 01:41 AM

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QUOTE(Fanvil1534 @ Aug 5 2018, 01:09 AM)
GRAB introduced 2 new cancel reason. Only down side is you need to be around the pick up area so you don't affect your CR. Don't have to wait as well.

I suspect many will on AA to get incentive, job they don't want, they just go nearby and cancel. Won't affect CR. This will frustrate more riders seeing 1 min ETA and then canceled. Kinda funny how riders taste what we drivers taste before this when kena canceled by rider when reaching destination.
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Do like this very obviously will kena flagged for gaming la.....
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QUOTE(bcombat @ Aug 5 2018, 11:55 AM)
For drivers:-

less income
more stress

For company and riders:-

Lesser incentive payout and lower operating expenses
Less waiting time

As usual, I think they will adjust incentives, offering more mp, up etc to balance supply and demand.
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I don't think AA will solve waiting time. It's just bullshit from Grab.

Outside of KL waiting time is usually not too bad. The main reason waiting time is bad in KL is the jam.

How will AA solve the jam issue? It cannot.

Just think about it, last time we on B2B in KL what's the result? Still got 30 minutes to drop-off, new ping sudah masuk. Of course 2nd pax will cancel. My record is 2nd pax wait 1 hour for me. Why she didn't cancel I don't know, but thanks to her I get minimum 1 job for each MP block.

Will AA be different? I'm skeptical. Even Uber couldn't solve this problem. I also got another case Uber B2B pax wait more than 30 minutes for me.

"Solving waiting time" is just a bullshit reason given by Grab to reduce incentives.
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QUOTE(zinglicious @ Aug 5 2018, 01:14 PM)
Drivers must be nuts to be screwed so tight for titbits incentives with such restrictive crappy rules of engagement. Amazing but true, why is Crap implement such scheme to demotivate the front line service where it would cause resentment with chain of negative reaction from drivers to riders ? devil.gif

The crappy incentive may not cover your mental stress to cope up with the accidental incident or medical bills. And AA may takes you to the twilight zones like KLCC where every km means 20 minutes in pickup to another 20 minutes in drop off. for Rm10 fare. or with extra titties incentives. Such stressful driving where the time , effort and gas may not be enough to cover it.  puke.gif

Safety and healthy driving conditions comes first.  bruce.gif
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For me KLCC still better than KLIA (even though I hate both). Stupid high mileage for peanuts fare, incentives burn, and then have to queue like an idiot so burn time, or choose to drive to Cyberjaya or whatever so waste mileage and petrol even more. If the next few blocks is MP or UP then all that burn also. Not possible anymore for those part-timers who plan to drive like 3 to 4 hours. If you kena KLIA at the 3rd of 4th hour, cry la. If cancel the job, don't get back the commission.

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post Aug 5 2018, 01:33 PM

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QUOTE(coolstore @ Aug 5 2018, 12:22 PM)
on AA also no getting much incentive by grab AI, predictably

e.g
first hour: 3 trips assigned to u: low fare + low fare + high fare = it can burn that hour incentive and eat into next hour
next hour: another high fare for u just to cut payable incentive

don't expect much on incentive while AA (grab AI) kick into field, may only get a few ringgits after working style like a kuli slave

better going on as flexi mode without AA, yes we loss the incentive that used to compensate commission 20% charged, but less stressful, flexible on what time u online no need start gam gam x pm sharp. just maintain weekly AR 30%

unless one really stay/camp at a place whereby totally no high fare job, ppl just swing to nearby spot, never go down town, then AA can be on.

but then just wait for the next week incentive table and see, since no daily AR80% requirement, only AA on incentive hour to qualify. then one may do flexi mode on B, P hour. then only turn on AA on HP, UP, MP hour.
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The problem is most bookings in most places are ikan bilis fare or medium distance trips (still can earn a bit of incentives). Even KL mostly short/medium distance trips. The problem is that bloody KLIA. It can come from anywhere. There's no place you can hide when Grab system will make sure to throw you a bomb at the end of the hour. If you kena KL you can still cancel or just accept it and brave the jam. But that bloody KLIA....


Can anybody confirm whether that, "too much luggage," reason for cancellation must be at the pick up point only can utilize? I'm having nightmare if I have to queue at KLIA.. My small car, if passenger have too much luggage how? I have to drive from Landslide go to the entrance and then only click, "too much luggage?" If passenger cancel how? How many times can I requeue if passenger cancel?

Actually, "Too much luggage," is another thing from Uber that Grab copied in a half assed way. Last time with Uber if I pick up from hotel or bus station, I will ask passenger how much luggage they have first. If too much, I'll cancel using that, "too much luggage," reason. But if Grab wants to force us to go to the pick up location only can cancel, then fuuuuuuuuccckkkk.

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post Aug 5 2018, 01:50 PM

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QUOTE(bcombat @ Aug 5 2018, 01:40 PM)
delay due to difficult for riders to get grabcar drivers. to certain nightmare destination like KL.

the above is from my rider pov. My pov is like other drivers here.
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Passengers shouldn't be charged normal fare if their destination is KL during peak hours. Makes no sense to me, especially since Grab doesn't count time. If Grab raises the price for KL/PJ destinations during peak hours then that is a fairer way to encourage drivers to pick up.
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QUOTE(Goodboy92 @ Aug 5 2018, 01:59 PM)
Lols , calm down , let see what incentive later

Grab were trying to balance out between driver rider and their profit

But expect the same thing from all company , when profit decrease , company will decrease employee also.
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moosekaka already predicted driver's earning will decrease when regulation comes into play.
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QUOTE(cerealkillar @ Aug 5 2018, 02:05 PM)
we can discuss bout AA till the cows comes home but to what end ?? i bet the idiot crab staff reading these comments are having a hoot of a time...
so what r we as drivers gonna do to make crab rethink this idiotic moves...?
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Drive like flexi and find other jobs.

Modded apps.

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post Aug 5 2018, 02:28 PM

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QUOTE(Fanvil1534 @ Aug 5 2018, 02:18 PM)
Waiting for another big company with huge cash capital to take this opportunity to invest in GRAB's competitor.
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Who wants to burn more money in this money burning industry? Lai lai lai...

I think big investors will only come in when driverless technology becomes feasible. Uber faced setbacks with their tech and Grab diam2 only. Probably Google will be the first to achieve it then they will burn money to expand their driverless business around the world. Or license out their tech to Uber and Grab. When that time comes, bye2 human drivers...
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QUOTE(Fanvil1534 @ Aug 5 2018, 02:41 PM)
i just thinking from rider point of view.. Rider can now freely use grabshare knowing most driver on AA forced to accept the low fare
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More people use GS = higher chance to get match. I don't mind if like that.

I don't know how all those sifus can get match even for RM5 trip. My GS matching rate is worse than shit.


I just had a thought... What if rider book GS from an area that can book GS, but destination is area that cannot book GS... Is that one of the reasons why GS matching rate so shit?

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