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post Nov 24 2017, 03:58 PM, updated 4y ago

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Hi all, if you are looking solid wood to make a part of your house renovation work, or a part of your yard, garden, or even living room, you will need to have a look for below.

I'm from a sawmill, and our timber business was established since 1988, and expanding our business to home user now.


(*to mod, i am not making an advertisement here, as i'm just trying to share some idea of my house by using the timber from my factory to all user here. But, if any of mod discovered that my topic has offended any rules out here, i will be very happy to remove this topic. Thank you.)


I believe many people love wood, because wood can be the closest relationship to mother nature if we use it right. Sometimes , just a simple peace of wood can make your living room feel warm and welcome. But because the tree is getting less, some of you may though the wood is pricey, and premium. Actually, it don't really expensive if you purchase directly from factory. Also, you can use B-Grade wood, it look natural and cost saving.


Few years ago, i am starting using rejected wood (B-Grade) as decoration in my house, you can see those picture below. We can share some idea, too.


This is my tea-pot rack, by using B-Grade 2x4, a lot of natural hole in the wood, it then turn colour to brown after time. Did you know how much it cost here ? Per wood is only RM12.50 (for 10 feet length) , picture shown are 8 feet (RM9.00), 7 feet (RM7.50), and 6 feet (RM6.50).

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you will need only Wall-plug nail. Drill a hole in wood, depend on your load preference, usually needed only few nail, and "slot" in the wall-plug nail, voila, you have just make a nice rack.

This rack is using 4 feet 2x4 B-Grade wood, cost only RM3.00 per wood.
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Close-look for hole in wood.
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I am using steel fence before i make over all fencing to wood. Picture below shown are using 1x3x3ft wood (RM2.80 per pcs), as you can see, after 5 years, i am not even maintaining it, and it is all directly from bandsaw, without any touch-up (planning & paint) , it still stand.

To make it look better, i then nail some 1x4 (RM1.80/pcs) to make a flower-pot.
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Here's the self-made letter-box, which only cost very few ringgit to make it. few pcs of 1x4x2ft (RM1.80/pcs) , and 1pcs of 4x4x5ft (RM58.60/pcs).
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You may not like the original wood look without painting like my fence above, if you wish to make it more clean and smooth by painting it, you can refer the fencing of my other house below, this 1 using 1x4 , for just (RM3.70/pcs), the whole fencing cost about RM260 (for 30ft length).
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There are many table-top-sized wood in my factory, which actually hole and crack, so we rated it the B-Grade wood, and it can't sell to our customer since the usage propose aren't same. The size of such table-top wood usually 3"x12", 3"x14", 3"x16", or 4"x16". Original proposed for this size are making bridge, fishing boat, or other heavy duty use, some how, some logs aren't perfect, it has some hole, so, i then use it to make tea table for guest welcoming in my 2nd living room.

There have different size thus has different price. As your reference, like picture below, i am using 3"x12"x18ft , the table-top alone cost (RM315.00/pcs) , and then, i using the same species of log as support, the log size is 12x12x10ft (RM270/pcs) , and cutting it to 3pcs to support whole table.

The table-top surface has paper sanded to smooth, and with those hole and crack, it look unique. I has seen the same type of table selling at antique shop for more than RM12'000 !!!

But i am only make it for less than RM800.00 for this table, included labor to make it. (wood alone total = RM585 only)
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I am looking forward to build more wood-work and share here biggrin.gif Thank you for viewing.


You can visit our factory facebook and website for more detail : www.fb.com/fltimber or http://fltimber.business.site .
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Nice work and good price.
Might consider later on..
Will follow on FB.
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post Nov 24 2017, 04:12 PM

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i am very happy to see this topic. well, whats your minimum order and i am thinking to build a few things such like tv top, cabinets and so. possible to share contact ?\
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post Nov 24 2017, 04:14 PM

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How about transportation to KL/PJ, i am keen on making a 3" x 2ft x 6.5ft table top.
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Hi, do you do delivery services?
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QUOTE(PowerPC @ Nov 24 2017, 03:58 PM)
Hi all, if you are looking solid wood to make a part of your house renovation work, or a part of your yard, garden, or even living room, you will need to have a look for below.

I'm from a sawmill, and our timber business was established since 1988, and expanding our business to home user now.


(*to mod, i am not making an advertisement here, as i'm just trying to share some idea of my house by using the timber from my factory to all user here. But, if any of mod discovered that my topic has offended any rules out here, i will be very happy to remove this topic. Thank you.)


I believe many people love wood, because wood can be the closest relationship to mother nature if we use it right. Sometimes , just a simple peace of wood can make your living room feel warm and welcome. But because the tree is getting less, some of you may though the wood is pricey, and premium. Actually, it don't really expensive if you purchase directly from factory. Also, you can use B-Grade wood, it look natural and cost saving.
Few years ago, i am starting using rejected wood (B-Grade) as decoration in my house, you can see those picture below. We can share some idea, too.
This is my tea-pot rack, by using B-Grade 2x4, a lot of natural hole in the wood, it then turn colour to brown after time. Did you know how much it cost here ? Per wood is only RM12.50 (for 10 feet length) , picture shown are 8 feet (RM9.00), 7 feet (RM7.50), and 6 feet (RM6.50).

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you will need only Wall-plug nail.  Drill a hole in wood, depend on your load preference, usually needed only few nail, and "slot" in the wall-plug nail, voila, you have just make a nice rack.

This rack is using 4 feet 2x4 B-Grade wood, cost only RM3.00 per wood.
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Close-look for hole in wood.
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I am using steel fence before i make over all fencing to wood. Picture below shown are using 1x3x3ft wood (RM2.80 per pcs), as you can see, after 5 years, i am not even maintaining it, and it is all directly from bandsaw, without any touch-up (planning & paint) , it still stand.

To make it look better, i then nail some 1x4 (RM1.80/pcs) to make a flower-pot.
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Here's the self-made letter-box, which only cost very few ringgit to make it. few pcs of 1x4x2ft (RM1.80/pcs) , and 1pcs of 4x4x5ft (RM58.60/pcs).
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You may not like the original wood look without painting like my fence above, if you wish to make it more clean and smooth by painting it, you can refer the fencing of my other house below, this 1 using 1x4 , for just (RM3.70/pcs), the whole fencing cost about RM260 (for 30ft length).
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There are many table-top-sized wood in my factory, which actually hole and crack, so we rated it the B-Grade wood, and it can't sell to our customer since the usage propose aren't same. The size of such table-top wood usually 3"x12", 3"x14", 3"x16", or 4"x16". Original proposed for this size are making bridge, fishing boat, or other heavy duty use, some how, some logs aren't perfect, it has some hole, so, i then use it to make tea table for guest welcoming in my 2nd living room.

There have different size thus has different price. As your reference, like picture below, i am using 3"x12"x18ft , the table-top alone cost (RM315.00/pcs) , and then, i using the same species of log as support, the log size is 12x12x10ft (RM270/pcs) , and cutting it to 3pcs to support whole table.

The table-top surface has paper sanded to smooth, and with those hole and crack, it look unique.  I has seen the same type of table selling at antique shop for more than RM12'000 !!!

But i am only make it for less than RM800.00 for this table, included labor to make it. (wood alone total = RM585 only)
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I am looking forward to build more wood-work and share here biggrin.gif Thank you for viewing.
You can visit our factory facebook and website for more detail :  www.fb.com/fltimber    or  http://fltimber.business.site .
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boss, what other woods you can get besides balau.. phobia this wood already if use 20mm thickness got stability problem in longterm (split or wavy./curvey pieces) biggrin.gif
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Anyway, make some good design and you can be a branded wood furniture seller soon. Will consider after my house complete on 2020.
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post Nov 24 2017, 04:34 PM

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Wow ! I am very surprised to see 5 replied just after few mins of this post, i would like to say thank you to all rclxms.gif


QUOTE(d3sign3r @ Nov 24 2017, 04:11 PM)
Nice work and good price.
Might consider later on..
Will follow on FB.
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Hi, thank you, this is just a very rough work. I am very happy to see you like it !

QUOTE(bytes00 @ Nov 24 2017, 04:12 PM)
i am very happy to see this topic. well, whats your minimum order and i am thinking to build a few things such like tv top, cabinets and so. possible to share contact ?\
thanks
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Yeah, thank you ! There has no minimum order at all ! You can come for even 1 pcs of wood, i am very happy to see you here and we can share idea for each other ! The contact are the same inside FB and my website.

QUOTE(weikee @ Nov 24 2017, 04:14 PM)
How about transportation to KL/PJ, i am keen on making a 3" x 2ft x 6.5ft table top.
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You can arrange yourself a transport for such size if you have hilux (long base) , or, the fees is about RM300-400 depend on the driver, we can arrange that for you.

3" x 48" is really wide, currently we dont have ready log to cut this yet, as rainy season now.

QUOTE(SheepGeeks @ Nov 24 2017, 04:16 PM)
Hi, do you do delivery services?
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Yes, we can arrange 3rd party transport for you with minimal charges.

QUOTE(ar188 @ Nov 24 2017, 04:25 PM)
boss, what other woods you can get besides balau.. phobia this wood already if use 20mm thickness got stability problem in longterm (split or wavy./curvey pieces)  biggrin.gif
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Yeah, agreed with you, you know wood so well eh? thumbup.gif

We currently process Chengal and Balau mainly, and we do process Meranti and Merbau if we got order again from Maldives, depend on season and order.

Balau & Chengal is our main production.
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QUOTE(kentmeng @ Nov 24 2017, 04:30 PM)
Anyway, make some good design and you can be a branded wood furniture seller soon. Will consider after my house complete on 2020.
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Haha, unfortunately, i am not a very good designer, just a simple person that like to use wood decorating my house biggrin.gif

No problem, come here when you free.
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QUOTE(kentmeng @ Nov 24 2017, 04:30 PM)
Anyway, make some good design and you can be a branded wood furniture seller soon. Will consider after my house complete on 2020.
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Haha, unfortunately, i am not a very good designer, just a simple person that like to use wood decorating my house biggrin.gif

No problem, come here when you free.
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Boss, can you pm me your contact or namecard? So that I can look for you when I pay a visit there.
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hmm...just thinking, so many holes, how to use..definitely not for dining table..
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QUOTE(PowerPC @ Nov 24 2017, 04:34 PM)
3" x 48" is really wide, currently we dont have ready log to cut this yet, as rainy season now.
Yes, we can arrange 3rd party transport for you with minimal charges.


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Kawan, 2ft is 24" lah.

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QUOTE(PowerPC @ Nov 24 2017, 04:34 PM)
Yeah, agreed with you, you know wood so well eh?  thumbup.gif

We currently process Chengal and Balau mainly, and we do process Meranti and Merbau if we got order again from Maldives, depend on season and order.

Balau & Chengal is our main production.
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ya, cos we got make custom made furniture.
and this year was busy to secure some imported sawn timber (white oak n spruce as we got some interior design project for a hotel) and local nyatoh for other custom ID project.
i will discuss with you further on chengal later on since thats your main product. hehe. would be eager to use chengal instead of balau for next year project (hope u can support on the tonne prices) brows.gif

i think i been to your place before but u not in (you got office container at the factory right?) will catch you again soon or if you got come to kl let me know. biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(weikee @ Nov 24 2017, 04:14 PM)
How about transportation to KL/PJ, i am keen on making a 3" x 2ft x 6.5ft table top.
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Nov 24 2017, 06:33 PM)
single piece or?  brows.gif
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Single cannot afford lah. let the old trees live couple hundreds years lah. Joined 2 piece also good.
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QUOTE(weikee @ Nov 24 2017, 07:14 PM)
Single cannot afford lah. let the old trees live couple hundreds years lah. Joined 2 piece also good.
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not so expensive ma, i think for that size for 1piece, 3-4k can get in kl liao. biggrin.gif
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Nice products and services. Will recommend to friends who are searching for this kind of wood designs.
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Nov 24 2017, 07:16 PM)
not so expensive ma, i think for that size for 1piece, 3-4k can get in kl liao.  biggrin.gif
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3-4k, that way out of my budget biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(weikee @ Nov 24 2017, 08:08 PM)
3-4k, that way out of my budget biggrin.gif
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aiseh, now trending price also like 6-20k ma. laugh.gif u no go homedec see their skyhigh price meh? laugh.gif
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Nov 24 2017, 08:10 PM)
aiseh, now trending price also like 6-20k ma.  laugh.gif u no go homedec see their skyhigh price meh? laugh.gif
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Overpriced with high mark-up than discount.
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QUOTE(SheepGeeks @ Nov 24 2017, 05:00 PM)
Boss, can you pm me your contact or namecard? So that I can look for you when I pay a visit there.
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Sure, already pm you !

QUOTE(deity01 @ Nov 24 2017, 05:33 PM)
hmm...just thinking, so many holes, how to use..definitely not for dining table..
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Hi, for some, the hole is small, my customer cut a glass to put it on top wink.gif

QUOTE(weikee @ Nov 24 2017, 06:10 PM)
Kawan, 2ft is 24" lah.
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Ohh, my bad. Sorry ya, yes, 2ft is only 24 inches. For 24 inches, we have ready log for cut, only for b-grade, if you wish to have perfect surface, you will need to wait until end of dec smile.gif


QUOTE(Reubs @ Nov 24 2017, 06:19 PM)
Do you have Nyatoh wood?
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Hi, unfortunately we dont process nyatoh smile.gif


QUOTE(ar188 @ Nov 24 2017, 06:25 PM)
ya, cos we got make custom made furniture.
and this year was busy to secure some imported sawn timber (white oak n spruce as we got some interior design project for a hotel) and local nyatoh for other custom ID project.
i will discuss with you further on chengal later on since thats your main product. hehe. would be eager to use chengal instead of balau for next year project (hope u can support on the tonne prices)  brows.gif

i think i been to your place before but u not in (you got office container at the factory right?) will catch you again soon or if you got come to kl let me know. biggrin.gif
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Ohh ! Izzit? Yeah, you are right. Sometimes i am outstation, is ok, just call me before you start your journey:)

Yes, looking forward to work with you, and no worry, all price including above stated is base on tonnes counted.

QUOTE(ar188 @ Nov 24 2017, 06:33 PM)
single piece or?  brows.gif
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Hi, to save cost, now alot of ppl jointing it.


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QUOTE(weikee @ Nov 24 2017, 07:14 PM)
Single cannot afford lah. let the old trees live couple hundreds years lah. Joined 2 piece also good.
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Hahaha

QUOTE(ar188 @ Nov 24 2017, 07:16 PM)
not so expensive ma, i think for that size for 1piece, 3-4k can get in kl liao.  biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Xaser_3 @ Nov 24 2017, 07:57 PM)
Nice products and services. Will recommend to friends who are searching for this kind of wood designs.
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Thank you ! You are welcome to visit at anytime!


QUOTE(ar188 @ Nov 24 2017, 08:10 PM)
aiseh, now trending price also like 6-20k ma.  laugh.gif u no go homedec see their skyhigh price meh? laugh.gif
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Hahaha

QUOTE(weikee @ Nov 24 2017, 08:15 PM)
Overpriced with high mark-up than discount.
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QUOTE(PowerPC @ Nov 25 2017, 11:33 AM)

Ohh ! Izzit? Yeah, you are right. Sometimes i am outstation, is ok, just call me before you start your journey:)

Yes, looking forward to work with you, and no worry, all price including above stated is base on tonnes counted.
Hi, to save cost, now alot of ppl jointing it.
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sure, no problem. will look forward to meeting you soon.

just wondering, the further inside factory is your another partner company? or maybe doing other type of wood?
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QUOTE(PowerPC @ Nov 25 2017, 11:33 AM)

Hi, to save cost, now alot of ppl jointing it.
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yup, using 2x6inch boards to joint into bigger tabletop is cheaper way,
but jointing with neat 90deg edge need soe skill , good glue and clamps/equipment. not easy!
if can get big single piece of wood cheap cheap from you is better and easier. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Nov 25 2017, 11:53 AM)
sure, no problem. will look forward to meeting you soon.

just wondering, the further inside factory is your another partner company? or maybe doing other type of wood?
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Oh, that is my cousin, we are under 1 roof but different company. He is processing Balau, Chengal, Merbau, and Giam. Depend on season, sometimes he process Meranti as well.

I am currently processing Balau only, and will change to Chengal soon.

Thats why, anyone come to this roof could have alot of choices.

This is the family business since 1988, and just move to new location this year, expanding to 30 hectares from 6 hectares before.

QUOTE(ar188 @ Nov 25 2017, 11:55 AM)
yup, using 2x6inch boards to joint into bigger tabletop is cheaper way,
but jointing with neat 90deg edge need soe skill , good glue and clamps/equipment. not easy!
if can get big single piece of wood cheap cheap from you is better and easier. biggrin.gif
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Ya, especially Balau, if it not enough dry, the corner (90 degrees) will be turn up after some times, then spoil the glue.

My cousin office has 1 table been cracked exactly caused by this.

Sure, you can buy at 50% or more lower than original price if you use B-Grade wood.

B-grade wood aren't bad and soft, it is just rejected wood caused by hole and crack, it's still hard and durable. If you can find a way to make those hole and crack look fantastic, you are actually having a unique thing in your house !
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QUOTE(PowerPC @ Nov 25 2017, 12:23 PM)
Oh, that is my cousin, we are under 1 roof but different company. He is processing Balau, Chengal, Merbau, and Giam. Depend on season, sometimes he process Meranti as well.

I am currently processing Balau only, and will change to Chengal soon.

Thats why, anyone come to this roof could have alot of choices.

This is the family business since 1988, and just move to new location this year, expanding to 30 hectares from 6 hectares before.
Ya, especially Balau, if it not enough dry, the corner (90 degrees) will be turn up after some times, then spoil the glue.

My cousin office has 1 table been cracked exactly caused by this.

Sure, you can buy at 50% or more lower than original price if you use B-Grade wood.

B-grade wood aren't bad and soft, it is just rejected wood caused by hole and crack, it's still hard and durable. If you can find a way to make those hole and crack look fantastic, you are actually having a unique thing in your house !
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oh that young guy is your cousin. ya i met him haha, very hands on in the factory.
i notice , the place where he park his car, next to his office, got 3-4 very wide big slabs (maybe 10feet long).merbau/chengal.. looks nice. is that the cracked slab you mention also? i saw it! haha

your side also got such thick and big slab? cos hope you got chengal also next time. would love to work with you on chengal. biggrin.gif

for the sawn timber 1x4 or 2x6 etc, can you help us with KD the chengal if we buy 1-2ton?
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hi, i'm keen on single piece table top....maybe 4 feet by 6 feet...g-grade is ok....let me know if got such a piece....thank you :-)

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QUOTE(ar188 @ Nov 25 2017, 12:34 PM)
oh that young guy is your cousin. ya i met him haha, very hands on in the factory.
i notice , the place where he park his car, next to his office, got 3-4 very wide big slabs (maybe 10feet long).merbau/chengal.. looks nice. is that the cracked slab you mention also? i saw it! haha

your side also got such thick and big slab? cos hope you got chengal also next time. would love to work with you on chengal. biggrin.gif

for the sawn timber 1x4 or 2x6 etc, can you help us with KD the chengal if we buy 1-2ton?
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Ya ya ! His name is Curt Lai. That few pieces is cutting out from a big logs as i remember, waiting for a hotel project to make decorations last time he told me.

Ya, something like that, but that few piece are included skin. Yes, sometimes we will have it, but due to now we are cutting truck base order, the slab is smaller too, and without skin.

The 1x4 or 2x6 we have ready stock for that. But Balau or Changal don't recommended to KD, since the chances to bend or twisted is too high. Usually we air dry it, about a month or two. You can buy from us any quantity.

QUOTE(billyboy @ Nov 25 2017, 01:10 PM)
hi, i'm keen on single piece table top....maybe 4 feet by 6 feet...g-grade is ok....let me know if got such a piece....thank you :-)
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Hi all, just to want to ask all the expert here...If i wan to do the TV wall what wood material should i get? i just need it to covers the wall.
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wow. awesome! I've been looking for affordable wood for my house for quite sometime now
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QUOTE(Salei @ Nov 27 2017, 02:12 PM)
Hi all, just to want to ask all the expert here...If i wan to do the TV wall what wood material should i get? i just need it to covers the wall.
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QUOTE(rubrubrub @ Nov 27 2017, 02:15 PM)
wow. awesome! I've been looking for affordable wood for my house for quite sometime now
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Hi all, just to want to ask all the expert here...If i wan to do the TV wall what wood material should i get? i just need it to covers the wall.
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recycled wood also can, its just to tile up the wall right? the looks is how good you can sand and stain it. thats all
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recycled wood also can, its just to tile up the wall right? the looks is how good you can sand and stain it. thats all
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Yup agree. As long as it is properly treated (just need elbow work and effort + space to work) you should be able to do it.

You just need to take into consideratioon,

- plan on mounting points for the wood to the wall, taking into consideration the weight of the wood (wood can be quite heavy)
- does the wood block any powerpoints or cablings

Some people have use wood floor laminates as wall coverings.

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QUOTE(bigred @ Nov 27 2017, 03:49 PM)
Yup agree.  As long as it is properly treated (just need elbow work and effort + space to work) you should be able to do it.

You just need to take into consideratioon,

-  plan on mounting points for the wood to the wall, taking into consideration the weight of the wood (wood can be quite heavy)
-  does the wood block any powerpoints or cablings

Some people have use wood floor laminates as wall coverings.
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recycled wood also can, its just to tile up the wall right? the looks is how good you can sand and stain it. thats all
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May i know what is recycled wood? do u have a picture of it?
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May i know what is recycled wood? do u have a picture of it?
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Nov 27 2017, 03:11 PM)
recycled wood also can, its just to tile up the wall right? the looks is how good you can sand and stain it. thats all
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QUOTE(bigred @ Nov 27 2017, 03:49 PM)
Yup agree.  As long as it is properly treated (just need elbow work and effort + space to work) you should be able to do it.

You just need to take into consideratioon,

-  plan on mounting points for the wood to the wall, taking into consideration the weight of the wood (wood can be quite heavy)
-  does the wood block any powerpoints or cablings

Some people have use wood floor laminates as wall coverings.
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Ya, you can actually draw a plan, and then follow the size and length, everything should be smooth ~

QUOTE(Salei @ Nov 28 2017, 03:20 PM)
yeah...i search on laminate wood flooring as well... just afraid it will peel off and fall down when time passed.
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For my experience, i do saw some low quality flooring tear off in those budget hotel. But most of it because of shoes impact, the 1st layer of printed color run off.

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May i know what is recycled wood? do u have a picture of it?
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Ya, you can actually draw a plan, and then follow the size and length, everything should be smooth ~
For my experience, i do saw some low quality flooring tear off in those budget hotel. But most of it because of shoes impact, the 1st layer of printed color run off.
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wait for boss to donate some shorter or smaller scrap pieces (like the pic above) for me to make a feature wall.  laugh.gif
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Hi boss,
interested with what you doing.

Is this balau suitable for patio? But you dont make patio right so i have to diy?
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Ok, deal ! You come my factory, i donate for you some. I am serious~
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cool, i visit your container office again next visit when i pass seremban/ kuala pilah area. rclxms.gif

i will show you some of the items which we did and see how you can support for long term orders. hopefully u have cengal by then. haha (balau project the wood fail 2 times already so we phobia use it, not very stable as its still not stable let need long time air dry i think)
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i see. thanks...where can get this?
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Nice to see a sawmill owner here.
Time for me to move from S4S pallet wood from office warehouse...
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Nice to see a sawmill owner here.
Time for me to move from S4S pallet wood from office warehouse...
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wah really can find? usually those place ppl sapu very fast biggrin.gif
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wah really can find? usually those place ppl sapu very fast biggrin.gif
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Warehouse is in my company compound, outsiders can't access to it.
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euro pine pallets? brows.gif
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lucky wei..
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Some pine, some look like spruce.
Some I think is spruce plywood top.

Nowadays more and more spruce, pine getting less.
Some I suspect is rubber wood coz it is while but doesn't smell like spruce.

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Some pine, some look like spruce.
Some I think is spruce plywood top.

Nowadays more and more spruce, pine getting less.
Some I suspect is rubber wood coz it is while but doesn't smell like spruce.
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haha ya rubber wood got that pale look. but i think it wont be rubber wood since its getting more expensive now, china snapping it up. biggrin.gif
perhaps spruce since it should be cheaper than proper SYP.
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Nov 29 2017, 06:38 PM)
haha ya rubber wood got that pale look. but i think it wont be rubber wood since its getting more expensive now, china snapping it up. biggrin.gif
perhaps spruce since it should be cheaper than proper SYP.
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Have to be very careful with denailing else expensive blade spoil.
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But denailing those pallet and send it through planer and thicknesster also lots of work.

Have to be very careful with denailing else expensive blade spoil.
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ouch, sending to sharpen planer blades is not cheap. sweat.gif

so you are the s4s man.
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Hi boss,
interested with what you doing.

Is this balau suitable for patio? But you dont make patio right so i have to diy?
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Hi, thank you !

Yeah, Balau are well suitable for such application. Unfortunately, we only supplying wood. biggrin.gif

QUOTE(ar188 @ Nov 29 2017, 03:24 PM)
cool, i visit your container office again next visit when i pass seremban/ kuala pilah area.  rclxms.gif

i will show you some of the items which we did and see how you can support for long term orders. hopefully u have cengal by then. haha (balau project the wood fail 2 times already so we phobia use it, not very stable as its still not stable let need long time air dry i think)
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rclxm9.gif Sure ! I need to learn alot from you !

QUOTE(ar188 @ Nov 29 2017, 03:25 PM)
haha 2 method, if want cheap n fast, go outside and search for pallet wood then can start already, go hardware store to buy some stain colors also.
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QUOTE(yushin @ Nov 29 2017, 05:00 PM)
Nice to see a sawmill owner here.
Time for me to move from S4S pallet wood from office warehouse...
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rclxm9.gif  Sure ! I need to learn alot from you !
dun worry boss, later when i need to buy some pile of cengal for project. u help me with best sawn timber prices.
i also help make some nice product using your wood. haha

we did a audio cabinet project early this year, just to show the leg joinery detail, so i will eagerly try your cengal when i visit u..hehe.
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Nice stuff you have there TS! thumbup.gif

Those wood slabs with natural holes are great for the below projects, Its one of those projects that i'm interested with once I get move into my new home next years



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hi, do you have these kind of woods or similar colour for the purpose like below?

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hi, do you have these kind of woods or similar colour for the purpose like below?

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those are lighter color woods. malaysia less have. mostly here is medium brown type
unless you can consider the lower class finger jointed rubber wood panels.
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Dec 2 2017, 04:39 PM)
those are lighter color woods. malaysia less have. mostly here is medium brown type
unless you can consider the lower class finger jointed rubber wood panels.
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this type is much good enough smile.gif
it would be great if u selling this type.
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this type is much good enough smile.gif
it would be great if u selling this type.
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not me, i just do woodworking. its ts who has the sawmill. biggrin.gif i dont think he supply this type. at sg buloh will have it
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Dec 2 2017, 05:02 PM)
not me, i just do woodworking.  its ts who has the sawmill.  biggrin.gif  i dont think he supply this type. at sg buloh will have it
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it would be great if u selling this type.
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Wow, beautiful ! This type of wood usually i saw it in Coffee shop, quite nice also if using it for home.

QUOTE(ar188 @ Dec 2 2017, 05:02 PM)
not me, i just do woodworking.  its ts who has the sawmill.  biggrin.gif  i dont think he supply this type. at sg buloh will have it
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You are such a rare man now-a-day, everyone switching to steel or aluminium thumbsup.gif
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Wow, beautiful ! This type of wood usually i saw it in Coffee shop, quite nice also if using it for home.
You are such a rare man now-a-day, everyone switching to steel or aluminium  thumbsup.gif
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Steel and Solid wood make nice combo, like Superman and BatMan
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many people do those already, no need to jump to follow the crowd biggrin.gif do something different haha
same like how your b grade wood can also look nice/different and also not expensive.
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nice product! can share your name card as well?
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Dec 5 2017, 10:41 AM)
many people do those already, no need to jump to follow the crowd  biggrin.gif do something different haha
same like how your b grade wood can also look nice/different and also not expensive.
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About a month ago, i have a friend from Seremban came over and interested with the wood with all hole, he then purchased few pieces, and today he just whatsapp the images to me, he is using for bed frame rclxms.gif

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About a month ago, i have a friend from Seremban came over and interested with the wood with all hole, he then purchased few pieces, and today he just whatsapp the images to me, he is using for bed frame  rclxms.gif

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wah!  rclxms.gif smart those hole one should be quite cheap! laugh.gif
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Ya ya, this piece about RM75 as i remember, because he buy whole piece at RM2XX only, for 22 feet long.  He cut it to use for few application.
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ya ya, thank you ! Show me some of your amazing stuff here when you have done, okay ?
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and also need to pay you a visit when i pass by n9 next time. thumbup.gif
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if want to buy wood for platform, you have? it will be at ground floor so must resist to moisture and termite...
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haha dont worry, will share if we manage to do some great stuff. rclxm9.gif
and also need to pay you a visit when i pass by n9 next time. thumbup.gif
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if want to buy wood for platform, you have? it will be at ground floor so must resist to moisture and termite...
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looking for a 3ft x 5ft wood, joined wood also can. need a 3ft high table for kitchen, heavy duty. got any lobang?
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looking for a 3ft x 5ft wood, joined wood also can. need a 3ft high table for kitchen, heavy duty. got any lobang?
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only need the panel 3x5feet? or need legs also to make complete table?
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Nice stuff you have there TS!  thumbup.gif

Those wood slabs with natural holes are great for the below projects, Its one of those projects that i'm interested with once I get move into my new home next years



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i think some Harvey Norman stores are starting to sell such tables. not cheap though. 5 figures.
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only need the panel 3x5feet? or need legs also to make complete table?
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i think some Harvey Norman stores are starting to sell such tables. not cheap though. 5 figures.
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QUOTE(blackwhitechipsKL @ Dec 17 2017, 11:36 PM)
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Another idea using 3.5x3.5 x7feet biggrin.gif biggrin.gif


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Bro, do u sell a4 size wood? Square n flat surface? Not for home renovation bt for art and craft
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bro just pm you for contact. I wanted to do a 2ft X 30ft corridor wood ceiling like the photo below. coated aluminium not so nice some more those supplier quoted me damn expensive.
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got budget? biggrin.gif we just done something like that..for wall, not ceiling though.
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got budget?  biggrin.gif we just done something like that..for wall, not ceiling though.
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Bro, do u sell a4 size wood? Square n flat surface? Not for home renovation bt for art and craft
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what kind of wood u looking for. sure can make S4S for you (4 side surface flat)
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Bro, u have photo of the completed project?
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supply of the wood i got pics of those wood being cut to size etc,
but install part the customer contractor did it, we didnt go on site after initial visit to take finish pics
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what kind of wood u looking for. sure can make S4S for you (4 side surface flat)
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Sorry im new to wood topic. How many type of wood is there ?
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Sorry im new to wood topic. How many type of wood is there ?
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i think got few hundred woods to choose price also from 1x to 10x range... biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Dec 24 2017, 10:14 AM)
i think got few hundred woods to choose price also from 1x to 10x range... biggrin.gif
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Jz need basic wood aa long square in shape and flat on all surface. Smtg like this.jz basic ones will do.. gonna put some nails in
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ic. usually it will be made out of few pieces of wood joint together to form a wider piece like a4 size.
even the pic above can see its glued together with 4 wood pieces. can be done. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Dec 24 2017, 10:59 AM)
ic. usually it will be made out of few pieces of wood joint together to form a wider piece like a4 size.
even the pic above can see its glued together with 4 wood pieces. can be done. biggrin.gif
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Is it ? Dont have a4 size without join ah? If join piece, hw much wud it b?
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QUOTE(LazyKurosaki @ Dec 24 2017, 11:01 AM)
Is it ? Dont have a4 size without join ah? If join piece, hw much wud it b?
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there is 1piece a4 fize. but its usually cut from a bigger piece and cost way much more, since large piece is reserved for more expensive products to build from, so people build them out of thinner strips of 1x4 (22mm x 95mm) and glue them together. much cheaper maybe by half the cost.
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Dec 24 2017, 11:04 AM)
there is 1piece a4 fize. but its usually cut from a bigger piece and cost way much more, since large piece is reserved for more expensive products to build from, so people build them out of thinner strips of 1x4 (22mm x 95mm) and glue them together. much cheaper maybe by half the cost.
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Then join piece wud b more ideal. My intention is to keep the cost as I will b doing art on it n sell it. Cn I hv the price of 4 piece join?
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QUOTE(LazyKurosaki @ Dec 24 2017, 11:09 AM)
Then join piece wud b more ideal. My intention is to keep the cost as I will b doing art on it n sell it. Cn I hv the price of 4 piece join?
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got qty or just only 1 piece? biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Dec 24 2017, 11:12 AM)
got qty or just only 1 piece? biggrin.gif
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We start wif 1 first. If everything on my side goes well, we wil need more in future
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QUOTE(LazyKurosaki @ Dec 24 2017, 11:17 AM)
We start wif 1 first. If everything on my side goes well, we wil need more in future
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let u know next week when i go to the workshop, see what wood can use to make 1piece. smile.gif smile.gif

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QUOTE(ar188 @ Dec 24 2017, 11:20 AM)
let u know next week when i go to the workshop, see what wood can use to make 1piece. smile.gif  smile.gif
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Thanks ar188. Bt the wood can't be too thin since I will put nails on it.. if too thin, ltr back of wood cn see the nail lol..

Direct one a4 size or join by 4 piece also cn..whichever is cheaper.
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QUOTE(LazyKurosaki @ Dec 24 2017, 11:23 AM)
Thanks ar188. Bt the wood can't be too thin since I will put nails on it.. if too thin, ltr back of wood cn see the nail lol..

Direct one a4 size or join by 4 piece also cn..whichever is cheaper.
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ic, whats the thickness u need? check your nail length.
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Dec 24 2017, 11:43 AM)
ic, whats the thickness u need? check your nail length.
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Need about 2cm thick
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Need about 2cm thick
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ic 20mm is around the standard thickness.

color of the wood any issue? malaysia wood is usually medium brown.
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Dec 24 2017, 12:38 PM)
ic 20mm is around the standard thickness.

color of the wood any issue? malaysia wood is usually medium brown.
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Color no issue
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bro just pm you for contact. I wanted to do a 2ft X 30ft corridor wood ceiling like the photo below. coated aluminium not so nice some more those supplier quoted me damn expensive.
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PM Received & Replied. Ya, Aluminium now a day really expensive. Although wood aren't cheap too.

You can use 0.5x2 or 1x3, quite nice also . biggrin.gif

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Bro, do u sell a4 size wood? Square n flat surface? Not for home renovation bt for art and craft
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Ohh, we dont sell such wood , as this wide is for bigger project, usually min length is 16 feet up. You can join it by using few pieces of 1x3 or 1x4.

something like this, but you can also not to join.

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got budget?  biggrin.gif we just done something like that..for wall, not ceiling though.
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Dec 24 2017, 11:04 AM)
there is 1piece a4 fize. but its usually cut from a bigger piece and cost way much more, since large piece is reserved for more expensive products to build from, so people build them out of thinner strips of 1x4 (22mm x 95mm) and glue them together. much cheaper maybe by half the cost.
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thumbup.gif Is the glue last longer ?

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QUOTE(LazyKurosaki @ Dec 24 2017, 12:34 PM)
Need about 2cm thick
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2cm is just nice, this is the common size we cut. ⅞" , nearly full 1".
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QUOTE(PowerPC @ Dec 28 2017, 11:23 AM)
PM Received & Replied. Ya, Aluminium now a day really expensive. Although wood aren't cheap too.

You can use 0.5x2 or 1x3, quite nice also . biggrin.gif
Bro, will the wood bend over time because of the thickness? because it going to be really long (joint to become 30 feet long)
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QUOTE(Denwcp @ Dec 28 2017, 11:55 AM)
Bro, will the wood bend over time because of the thickness? because it going to be really long (joint to become 30 feet long)
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Hi, ya, the chances to bend is high if the thickness are so thin, especially Balau.

It can be avoided by cutting it from a really big log or air dried for a period. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(PowerPC @ Dec 28 2017, 12:22 PM)
Hi, ya, the chances to bend is high if the thickness are so thin, especially Balau.

It can be avoided by cutting it from a really big log or air dried for a period.  biggrin.gif
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Then i think not wise to use it as ceiling decoration, if sekali bengkok, habis my plaster ceiling.
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QUOTE(PowerPC @ Dec 28 2017, 11:23 AM)
PM Received & Replied. Ya, Aluminium now a day really expensive. Although wood aren't cheap too.

You can use 0.5x2 or 1x3, quite nice also . biggrin.gif
Ohh, we dont sell such wood , as this wide is for bigger project, usually min length is 16 feet up. You can join it by using few pieces of 1x3 or 1x4.

something like this, but you can also not to join.

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If join like that wil be loose or nt ? How much is it to join like that up to a4 size?
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QUOTE(Denwcp @ Dec 28 2017, 12:51 PM)
Then i think not wise to use it as ceiling decoration, if sekali bengkok, habis my plaster ceiling.
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Nope mate, usually it wont bengkok if you air dried it properly. Bengkok only happen when extreme heat and not properly air dried. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(LazyKurosaki @ Dec 28 2017, 02:54 PM)
If join like that wil be loose or nt ? How much is it to join like that up to a4 size?
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Quite tight actually, but if you pull it out still will loose.

You will need 1 pieces of 3 feet then cut it to join together.
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QUOTE(PowerPC @ Dec 28 2017, 04:47 PM)
Nope mate, usually it wont bengkok if you air dried it properly. Bengkok only happen when extreme heat and not properly air dried.  biggrin.gif
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Is the air drying process carry out by your factory? Do i need to appoint some other workshop to do it for me?


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QUOTE(PowerPC @ Dec 28 2017, 04:49 PM)
Quite tight actually, but if you pull it out still will loose.

You will need 1 pieces of 3 feet then cut it to join together.
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Oh I have to cut myself? I tot ur place got offer cutting service also
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QUOTE(PowerPC @ Dec 28 2017, 11:23 AM)

thumbup.gif  Is the glue last longer ?
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yes, glue is quite strong if small piece like a4 paper size.

but if large table top. can put some big dowel to make it stronger. biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(ar188 @ Dec 28 2017, 08:51 PM)
yes, glue is quite strong if small piece like a4 paper size.

but if large table top. can put some big dowel to make it stronger. biggrin.gif

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How strong of this ?
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QUOTE(PowerPC @ Mar 12 2018, 11:02 AM)
Sorry for late visit, my office internet line just become normal after repairing  biggrin.gif
How strong of this ?
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quite strong for normal use.
but can change to solid wood dowel also. smile.gif


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Here is some very nice idea from MGM Macau , the size and length used is very affordable. rclxms.gif

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QUOTE(ar188 @ Mar 12 2018, 11:04 AM)
quite strong for normal use.
but can change to solid wood dowel also.  smile.gif
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I c , thanks for your information.
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no problem,

what timber are you cutting mostly now?
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Mar 12 2018, 11:35 AM)
no problem,

what timber are you cutting mostly now?
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I am cutting Balau only currently biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(PowerPC @ Mar 12 2018, 11:47 AM)
I am cutting Balau only currently  biggrin.gif
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oic. rclxms.gif chengal no more ah..
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Mar 12 2018, 11:48 AM)
oic.  rclxms.gif  chengal no more ah..
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Yaaa , no more chengal log ccurrently. i assume, after GE will have more log smile.gif
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Thank you forumer ! Although i don't know what is your LYN ID, thanks for coming and pick the wood you like !

I am sorry for being hurt your finger during flipping the 3x12 slices. Hope your finger is okay now ! rclxms.gif


Mr. Soo, came from Kuala Lumpur visit my factory yesterday to grab 2 pieces of Grade B 3x12x6ft for his sweet home gardening biggrin.gif I provided some discount for him to comprehensive for my careless to hurt his finger bye.gif





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QUOTE(PowerPC @ Mar 24 2018, 10:17 AM)
Thank you forumer !  Although i don't know what is your LYN ID, thanks for coming and pick the wood you like !

I am sorry for being hurt your finger during flipping the 3x12 slices. Hope your finger is okay now !  rclxms.gif
Mr. Soo, came from Kuala Lumpur visit my factory yesterday to grab 2 pieces of Grade B 3x12x6ft for his sweet home gardening biggrin.gif  I provided some discount for him to comprehensive for my careless to hurt his finger  bye.gif
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wow nice rustic look!

what wood is that?
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Mar 24 2018, 06:09 PM)
wow nice rustic look!

what wood is that?
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That is Balau rclxms.gif
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That is Balau  rclxms.gif
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wah nice.

wait for your chengal season, then come visit your place again! biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Apr 12 2018, 03:45 PM)
wah nice.

wait for your chengal season, then come visit your place again!  biggrin.gif
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we started process Chengel next week biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(PowerPC @ Apr 12 2018, 03:51 PM)
we started process Chengel next week biggrin.gif
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wah .. wait how long like 1-2wks later? then can come see the extra or b grade items for us to buy? biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Apr 12 2018, 03:53 PM)
wah .. wait how long like 1-2wks later? then can come see the extra or b grade items for us to buy? biggrin.gif
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For Chengal, it seldom has B Grade wide table like balau, however, i do have many pieces of grade A (included skin in both left and right) Chengal table top. thick is 3 or 4 inches X 45 inches above, 16 feet, 18 feet, and 20 feet. biggrin.gif

ok for you ?
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QUOTE(PowerPC @ Apr 12 2018, 04:31 PM)
For Chengal, it seldom has B Grade wide table like balau, however, i do have many pieces of grade A (included skin in both left and right) Chengal table top.  thick is 3 or 4 inches X 45 inches above, 16 feet, 18 feet, and 20 feet. biggrin.gif

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wahh drool.gif ok to sapu those big slabs, but not ok when paying time..alot of money fly away laugh.gif
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wahh drool.gif  ok to sapu those big slabs, but not ok when paying time..alot of money fly away laugh.gif
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Hahaha, no worry laa.... when you spend money, the money will come back on next with extra interest biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(PowerPC @ Apr 12 2018, 04:31 PM)
For Chengal, it seldom has B Grade wide table like balau, however, i do have many pieces of grade A (included skin in both left and right) Chengal table top.  thick is 3 or 4 inches X 45 inches above, 16 feet, 18 feet, and 20 feet. biggrin.gif

ok for you ?
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If I want a 8 seater table top, can you cut to size?
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HI bro, do you have something for doing shelve, TV shelves, just a straight pieces - one line across around 10-12ft ?
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If I want a 8 seater table top, can you cut to size?
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We are actually cutting some big log and take the middle few pieces for table top, the size is vary to each log, so we have plenty for you to choose, depend on your preference biggrin.gif

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HI bro, do you have something for doing shelve, TV shelves, just a straight pieces - one line across around 10-12ft ?
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Ya, you can come to my factory and choose. The only thing is, it is all raw sawn, you will need a skilled carpenter to make it polished.

As per requested, i have take some photo of the slices here :




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The only wood i can source from multiple sawmill in Kuching : Selangan Batu, Durian Burung (Wtf?), Red Meranti and Belian (Borneo Ironwood)

I pow belian saja, but overkill at times. No other nice wood...sad
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wow! hope next time when got money, can get the wood from you, but I do not know any carpenter sad.gif
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Hi Boss,

What wood u used for the fencing at your first post? Chengal?

Thank you
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QUOTE(PowerPC @ Apr 13 2018, 10:55 AM)
We are actually cutting some big log and take the middle few pieces for table top, the size is vary to each log, so we have plenty for you to choose, depend on your preference biggrin.gif
Ya, you can come to my factory and choose. The only thing is, it is all raw sawn, you will need a skilled carpenter to make it polished.

As per requested, i have take some photo of the slices here :
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Can post some pictures of 45" and up chengal ?
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QUOTE(ijan @ Apr 13 2018, 11:03 AM)
The only wood i can source from multiple sawmill in Kuching : Selangan Batu, Durian Burung (Wtf?), Red Meranti and Belian (Borneo Ironwood)

I pow belian saja, but overkill at times. No other nice wood...sad
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Haha, there has many name i still never hear before, my apologize for my swallow knowledge on wood.

But i do know Belian, my customer told me before for this species, it actually same as hard as Balau, but lighter. It is a very good feedback wood.

QUOTE(anakkk @ Apr 13 2018, 11:12 AM)
wow! hope next time when got money, can get the wood from you, but I do not know any carpenter sad.gif
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Welcome, my friend. Wood aren't that expensive actually if you can use those short length in smarter way smile.gif no worry.

QUOTE(vodka @ Apr 13 2018, 11:28 AM)
Hi Boss,

What wood u used for the fencing at your first post? Chengal?

Thank you
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The upside picture was Balau, while the below (white house) is Chengal. biggrin.gif

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Can post some pictures of 45" and up chengal ?
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Sure, but only on Monday. The slices is under few bundle of other wood, need to move out for better picture taking.

You can see my last post picture, the 5th picture got "48" and "50", that is 48inches and 50inches wide. smile.gif
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QUOTE(PowerPC @ Apr 13 2018, 04:00 PM)
Sure, but only on Monday. The slices is under few bundle of other wood, need to move out for better picture taking.

You can see my last post picture, the 5th picture got "48" and "50", that is 48inches and 50inches wide. smile.gif
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Pm me the price too. I'm looking for a piece to make a 8-seater dinning table.
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thank you boss, yea wood is not expensive, I need sifu to make what i want, I came from carpenter family, but only my uncle and cousin inherited the skill, need to call them from my hometown wink.gif
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How much are you selling Balau S4S 1"x8"x12ft and 2x8x12?


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QUOTE(aeiou228 @ Apr 13 2018, 04:12 PM)
Pm me the price too. I'm looking for a piece to make a 8-seater dinning table.
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Sure can, the price will be very attractive too. Come here and choose 1, it will last many many years smile.gif

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thank you boss, yea wood is not expensive, I need sifu to make what i want, I came from carpenter family, but only my uncle and cousin inherited the skill, need to call them from my hometown  wink.gif
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How much are you selling Balau S4S 1"x8"x12ft and 2x8x12?
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how much for 5ft x 3ft balau? thickness 2-3cm ok
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just quote me a piece

i cant buy from you, im in sarawak. logistic and permit issues etc. Just want to make a comparison, so i know how much is what or am i charged differently
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QUOTE(PowerPC @ Apr 13 2018, 10:55 AM)
We are actually cutting some big log and take the middle few pieces for table top, the size is vary to each log, so we have plenty for you to choose, depend on your preference biggrin.gif
Ya, you can come to my factory and choose. The only thing is, it is all raw sawn, you will need a skilled carpenter to make it polished.

As per requested, i have take some photo of the slices here :
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wah your big slabs nice.
reminds me of your next door, also got a few piece of wide slab, but his one quite cracked at the ends already. hahaha biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(blackwhitechipsKL @ Apr 14 2018, 09:41 PM)
how much for 5ft x 3ft balau? thickness 2-3cm ok
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Hi, fot such wide, Balau will be cracked if the thickness only 2-3cm. You will need at least 2.5" to 3"

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just quote me a piece

i cant buy from you, im in sarawak. logistic and permit issues etc. Just want to make a comparison, so i know how much is what or am i charged differently
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I c, for 1x8x12 included S4S planning is RM84 /pcs. For 2x8 , it is RM 185.35 /pcs.

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reminds me of your next door, also got a few piece of wide slab, but his one quite cracked at the ends already.  hahaha biggrin.gif
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Ya, sometime it will be cracked it self, since those log aren't stable after cutting. Few weeks or more later will be lot stable.

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thanks for the price info. I get my belian at RM105 a piece. Although i'd love to source Balau. RM20 difference a piece goes a long way when you use 30 planks...
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Ya, sometime it will be cracked it self, since those log aren't stable after cutting. Few weeks or more later will be lot stable.
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I c, for 1x8x12 included S4S planning is RM84 /pcs. For 2x8 , it is RM 185.35 /pcs.

wah got s4s. didnt notice you got a planner moulder line in your factory.
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thanks for the price info. I get my belian at RM105 a piece. Although i'd love to source Balau. RM20 difference a piece goes a long way when you use 30 planks...
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ya betul. rclxms.gif
wah got s4s. didnt notice you got a planner moulder line in your factory.
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Ya , my cousin have it. But only S4S or T&G for now, as the machine is not new but old. smile.gif


There is a customer who order a Chengal slab with 2 log legs for his bungalow garden use biggrin.gif laugh.gif

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Ya , my cousin have it. But only S4S or T&G for now, as the machine is not new but old. smile.gif
There is a customer who order a Chengal slab with 2 log legs for his bungalow garden use biggrin.gif  laugh.gif

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wow if you/or cousin got s4s machine, and old type, usually is quite giant size. how many cutter head? 6 head? should be very powerful machine. funny, i didnt notice it when i talk to him last visit. haha maybe you park it outside the factory area?
or is that that white machine in the photo above?

what size is this chengal slab? the marking show 47 1/2 x 48? rclxub.gif

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wow if you/or cousin got s4s machine, and old type, usually is quite giant size. how many cutter head? 6 head? should be very powerful machine. funny, i didnt notice it when i talk to him last visit. haha maybe you park it outside the factory area?
or is that that white machine in the photo above?

what size is this chengal slab? the marking show 47 1/2 x 48? rclxub.gif
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Ohh, i have no idea for that machine but yes, it is quite big also from my view. He have 2 machines, 1 is in the photo (the white 1) , another is just beside it.

The size of this Chengal is upside 48, downside is 47.5 laugh.gif
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Ohh, i have no idea for that machine but yes, it is quite big also from my view. He have 2 machines, 1 is in the photo (the white 1) , another is just beside it.

The size of this Chengal is upside 48, downside is 47.5  laugh.gif
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nice! can do S4s already! rclxms.gif
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nice! can do S4s already!  rclxms.gif
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Ya, can do. If you happen to need any help, just tell me.
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settle nyatoh orders first next week haha
do you have nyatoh also? drool.gif
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Wau... Now I only notice this thread...
I like wood also, but I have no idea how to make it to furniture from a piece of raw wood.

Boss, can you share more wood's knowledge for us?
The different type of wood and the usage?

If I want to use wood on my ceiling, which type of wood I need to use?
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soon i will visit u.
settle nyatoh orders first next week haha
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Come come, welcome.

We don't have Nyatoh here, coz here not famous for this type of wood smile.gif

QUOTE(airwolf2010 @ Apr 20 2018, 09:55 AM)
Wau... Now I only notice this thread...
I like wood also, but I have no idea how to make it to furniture from a piece of raw wood.

Boss, can you share more wood's knowledge for us?
The different type of wood and the usage?

If I want to use wood on my ceiling, which type of wood I need to use?
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Welcome biggrin.gif ya, alot of ppl like wood. I am also learning how to make new thing in my factory ! But somehow due to i need to manage the business, i has bo extra hand on this sad.gif

For ceiling, usually if you just need to cover the roof, use 1x3 with T&G is nice to look too !
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Come come, welcome.

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Haha, there has many name i still never hear before, my apologize for my swallow knowledge on wood.

But i do know Belian, my customer told me before for this species, it actually same as hard as Balau, but lighter. It is a very good feedback wood.
boss you got hear before kekatong? trying to find out more about it haha. biggrin.gif I found 1ton of sawn timber at my store. dunno can use outdoor or not like cengal haha. laugh.gif
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Haha, there has many name i still never hear before, my apologize for my swallow knowledge on wood.

But i do know Belian, my customer told me before for this species, it actually same as hard as Balau, but lighter. It is a very good feedback wood.
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Actually Belian is harder & heavier than Balau. Balau about 850kg/m3 vs Belian about 1000kg/m3.
Due to the excellent resistance to bacterial, fungal, insect and marine borer attack; Belian hard to get. Cannot exported outside Msia or outside Sarawak. Still can import from Sabah for local use.
Belian got service life of up to 100 years in direct soil contact like kampung house and more than 20 years for marine work like bridge or floating house.
It's the best wood u can find in Msia.
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morning boss,

i wanna use it for my backyard, below my clear roof as safety.
area is 1200mm length x 6600mm width. wanna make like patio. will be exposed to sunglight, but not to rain, perhaps a bit of moisture.

u have square wood about 1300mm length, 3-4" square? plan to have gap about 3-4" per wood.

thanks!
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morning boss,

i wanna use it for my backyard, below my clear roof as safety.
area is 1200mm length x 6600mm width. wanna make like patio. will be exposed to sunglight, but not to rain, perhaps a bit of moisture.

u have square wood about 1300mm length, 3-4" square? plan to have gap about 3-4" per wood.

thanks!
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interesting use. you gonna DIY the floor patio?
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interesting use. you gonna DIY the floor patio?
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more to roof patio biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(y4ng @ Apr 26 2018, 10:46 PM)
plan to take out all my roof in the last 5ft of my backyard, and put a glass / Poly roof so sunlight can come in (to dry clothes). for safety, so gonna add wooden beams across it.

more to roof patio  biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(khusyairi @ Apr 25 2018, 04:12 PM)
Actually Belian is harder & heavier than Balau. Balau about 850kg/m3 vs Belian about 1000kg/m3.
Due to the excellent resistance to bacterial, fungal, insect and marine borer attack; Belian hard to get. Cannot exported outside Msia or outside Sarawak. Still can import from Sabah for local use.
Belian got service life of up to 100 years in direct soil contact like kampung house and more than 20 years for marine work like bridge or floating house.
It's the best wood u can find in Msia.
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yes, belian wood is damn durable, but it is the most expensive one, it has been pretty difficult to get it already, it was being used heavily 40 years ago, my grandfather house is built by using belian wood, the house is already more than 60 years old and the wood still stay strong! this wood is so heavy that it will sink in the water!
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Apr 25 2018, 03:41 PM)
boss you got hear before kekatong? trying to find out more about it haha.  biggrin.gif  I found 1ton of sawn timber at my store. dunno can use outdoor or not like cengal haha.  laugh.gif
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Ya, I hear before, but never has chance to see it. Maybe you will need to research more with those seniors ?

QUOTE(khusyairi @ Apr 25 2018, 04:12 PM)
Actually Belian is harder & heavier than Balau. Balau about 850kg/m3 vs Belian about 1000kg/m3.
Due to the excellent resistance to bacterial, fungal, insect and marine borer attack; Belian hard to get. Cannot exported outside Msia or outside Sarawak. Still can import from Sabah for local use.
Belian got service life of up to 100 years in direct soil contact like kampung house and more than 20 years for marine work like bridge or floating house.
It's the best wood u can find in Msia.
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Ohh , wow rclxms.gif thank you for your explanation ! Last few years, I do hear some of ppl got some wood from Sabah and Sarawak, I Guess those wood are belian. Because there say the density as strong as balau.

Thanks for your info and I have learn something new today rclxms.gif

QUOTE(y4ng @ Apr 26 2018, 11:52 AM)
morning boss,

i wanna use it for my backyard, below my clear roof as safety.
area is 1200mm length x 6600mm width. wanna make like patio. will be exposed to sunglight, but not to rain, perhaps a bit of moisture.

u have square wood about 1300mm length, 3-4" square? plan to have gap about 3-4" per wood.

thanks!
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Yes, we can process for you, 1300mm is about 4feet plus, you can use 3x3 or 4x4.

QUOTE(ar188 @ Apr 26 2018, 02:54 PM)
interesting use. you gonna DIY the floor patio?
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QUOTE(y4ng @ Apr 26 2018, 10:46 PM)
plan to take out all my roof in the last 5ft of my backyard, and put a glass / Poly roof so sunlight can come in (to dry clothes). for safety, so gonna add wooden beams across it.

more to roof patio  biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Kiding @ Apr 29 2018, 09:22 AM)
yes, belian wood is damn durable, but it is the most expensive one, it has been pretty difficult to get it already, it was being used heavily 40 years ago, my grandfather house is built by using belian wood, the house is already more than 60 years old and the wood still stay strong! this wood is so heavy that it will sink in the water!
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Hi all, due to really busy last few week, I am seldom reply in this topic, sorry ya ?

Here is my customer hill side bungalow near Pantai, Negeri Sembilan. All wood built this house is supplied from my factory, using Balau and some Grade B Balau. Spend around half year to finish, and still extending. Last month, he invite me to have a tea time in there. It is about 500M above sea level, quite windy and cool air. Peace and quiet.

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Ya, I hear before, but never has chance to see it. Maybe you will need to research more with those seniors ?
Ohh , wow  rclxms.gif  thank you for  your explanation ! Last few years, I do hear some of ppl got some wood from Sabah and Sarawak, I Guess those wood are belian. Because there say the density as strong as balau.

Thanks for your info and I have learn something new today  rclxms.gif
Yes, we can process for you, 1300mm is about 4feet plus,  you can use 3x3 or 4x4.
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How is the pricing like?
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For 3x3 , it is RM 38.75/pcs . For 4x4, it is RM 68.90/pcs. All is 5feet. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(PowerPC @ May 23 2018, 03:10 PM)
For 3x3 , it is RM 38.75/pcs . For 4x4, it is RM 68.90/pcs.  All is 5feet.  biggrin.gif
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ok, at least i can set aside my budget for it. thanks ya for the prices.
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QUOTE(PowerPC @ May 23 2018, 12:31 PM)
Hi all, due to really busy last few week, I am seldom reply in this topic, sorry ya ?

Here is my customer hill side bungalow near Pantai, Negeri Sembilan. All wood built this house is supplied from my factory, using Balau and some Grade B Balau. Spend around half year to finish, and still extending. Last month, he invite me to have a tea time in there. It is about 500M above sea level, quite windy and cool air. Peace and quiet.

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wow nice house!

are you still sawing chengal? next week can drop by to visit if u free.. brows.gif gotta do shopping for stocks.
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ok, at least i can set aside my budget for it. thanks ya for the prices.
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QUOTE(ar188 @ May 23 2018, 03:40 PM)
wow nice house!

are you still sawing chengal? next week can drop by to visit if u free..  brows.gif  gotta do shopping for stocks.
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Ya, we are processing chengal now icon_idea.gif
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Hi boss, can you quote for Chengal 1.5m x 0.8m how much will it be? Am planning to use it as dining table, appreciate if you can recommend me the right thickness.

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Hello again!

1. Can I know during Raya, what dates will you be closed?
2. You guys open during weekends for other dates?
3. What is nice to eat around your Batu Kikir? Might as well go and have a eating trip =)

Will be travelling from Klang Valley.

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Hi There....can you guys suggest what to do with my garden...?? Still bare....love the woods you have there....
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QUOTE(Jane's @ May 24 2018, 09:39 AM)
Hi boss, can you quote for Chengal 1.5m x 0.8m how much will it be? Am planning to use it as dining table, appreciate if you can recommend me the right thickness.
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Hi, for your table top size (31.5” wide, in 5feet of length) should be slab (with both side of skin) . We usually sold 1 pieces from log, which mean the minimum length is 16 feet and up, for your width is very common (31.5”)and the thickness is minimum 3.5”.

You will need to purchase whole slab (16feet or 18feet) if we dont spare any 5feet in store (cos usually ppl take whole slab instead of cutting it) .

For your reference , 3.5”x31.5”x18’ will cost about RM7,000 (grade b, with some small hole in random area). biggrin.gif

QUOTE(y4ng @ May 25 2018, 10:51 AM)
Hello again!

1. Can I know during Raya, what dates will you be closed?
2. You guys open during weekends for other dates?
3. What is nice to eat around your Batu Kikir? Might as well go and have a eating trip =)

Will be travelling from Klang Valley.
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Hello !

1 : we closed on 14/6 to 18/6, open on 19/6.

2: we are half day (to 12pm) on weekend and closed on sunday and important public holiday.

3: i would suggest Bahau (8km away) or Kuala Pilah (middle of seremban road), for Bahau, you get nice white coffee and roti bakar in Nanyang Kopitiam, if you’re chinese, the hawker center near market has about 80 store to select biggrin.gif

For kuala pilah, i would suggest hailam restaurants in old road to seremban (near abandoned BP patrol station), teh c and nasi lemak very nice, lot of local chinese and malays went there during morning, closed on 12pm as i know. Or, if you’re late, you can visit Restaurant Sinaran (hainam kopitiam also) inside kuala pilah town near bus station. If you’re looking for something special food and if you’re Chinese, visit hawker center near pasar, find 1 shop selling water fish helbal noodles (labi labi), also stew beef noodles.

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Hi There....can you guys suggest what to do with my garden...??  Still bare....love the woods you have there....
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hi! i would like to build an outdoor fence and decking using balau resak or chengal. whats the price difference like?

for fence, it probably be 1x3 (or 4?) x4 feet.
is 3 or 4 inch wide better?

for decking, itll probably be 1x3 x 8-10 feet.

thanks for your advise and opinion. (and quote)
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For your reference , 3.5”x31.5”x18’ will cost about RM7,000 (grade b, with some small hole in random area).  biggrin.gif
Hello !

wah 5feet long grade b slab so mahal 7k ah? biggrin.gif

i think cheaper to joint the wood (using your grade b 2x4) use 8pcs

how much for 1piece of 2x4 (5feet) chengal?
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make like this, sure nice. rclxms.gif
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haha, not bad ha u reply quite good, yeah i am Chinese, but working overseas.
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QUOTE(ar188 @ May 29 2018, 01:47 PM)
wah 5feet long grade b slab so mahal 7k ah? biggrin.gif

i think cheaper to joint the wood (using your grade b 2x4) use 8pcs

how much for 1piece of  2x4 (5feet) chengal?
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No. No no ..... rm7000 is 18feet long biggrin.gif
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No. No no ..... rm7000 is 18feet long  biggrin.gif
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oic. haha..

so if 4inch x 32inch x 18feet long is 7k

not count tan price ah? biggrin.gif this size around 1/3 tan. laugh.gif should be cheap cheap ma.
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QUOTE(yiwee @ May 29 2018, 01:01 PM)
hi! i would like to build an outdoor fence and decking using balau resak or chengal. whats the price difference like?

for fence, it probably be 1x3 (or 4?) x4 feet.
is 3 or 4 inch wide better?

for decking, itll probably be 1x3 x 8-10 feet.

thanks for your advise and opinion. (and quote)
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Hi, morning smile.gif

For fence, 1x3 is suitable for smaller house, and shorter fence (like 2.5 to 3 feet) , 1x4 look more nice if your house or door is wide and large.

Decking using 1x3 is nicer and cheaper.

For pricing, depend on length and size, chengal is about 40% to 60% more expensive than Balau. thumbup.gif
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make like this, sure nice. rclxms.gif
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haha, not bad ha u reply quite good, yeah i am Chinese, but working overseas.
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Here is my customers semi-d, using chengal logs as support, and mix with balau beam. rclxms.gif



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QUOTE(PowerPC @ May 31 2018, 11:25 AM)
Hi, morning smile.gif

For fence, 1x3 is suitable for smaller house, and shorter fence (like 2.5 to 3 feet) , 1x4 look more nice if your house or door is wide and large.

Decking using 1x3 is nicer and cheaper.

For pricing, depend on length and size, chengal is about 40% to 60% more expensive than Balau. thumbup.gif
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Thanks for reply...
how much approximately? Just trying to see if worth doing it or not smile.gif
(For 1" x 4" x 4 feet)
(and also for my decking at 1" x 3" x 8-10 feet)

You have resak?
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Thanks for reply...
how much approximately? Just trying to see if worth doing it or not smile.gif
(For 1" x 4" x 4 feet)
(and also for my decking at 1" x 3" x 8-10 feet)

You have resak?
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Hi, good day smile.gif

For 1x4 x4feet, it is RM5/pcs include planing. It is Balau (yellow balau, same family with resak)

Usually, most ppl say resak actually mean balau (some call resak, some call balau)

Actually the “real Resak” are Balau Hitam, slightly darker than Balau, harder than Balau thus most easy to crack in the end, also, fresh cut Resak has slight oily gum in cutting surface.


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QUOTE(PowerPC @ Jun 1 2018, 03:03 PM)
Hi, good day smile.gif

For 1x4 x4feet, it is RM5/pcs include planing. It is Balau (yellow balau, same family with resak)

Usually, most ppl say resak actually mean balau (some call resak, some call balau)

Actually the “real Resak” are Balau Hitam, slightly darker than Balau, harder than Balau thus most easy to crack in the end, also, fresh cut Resak has slight oily gum in cutting surface.
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Got picture of these balau planks?
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Got picture of these balau planks?
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Planks ?

QUOTE(dudester @ Jun 1 2018, 03:20 PM)
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There is a customer who order a Chengal slab with 2 log legs for his bungalow garden use biggrin.gif  laugh.gif

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Hi all, still remember above Chengal slab back in April ?


Here’s is the finished look ! rclxm9.gif


Now, it laying on my customer’s side garden biggrin.gif


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Hi all, still remember above Chengal slab back in April ?
Here’s is the finished look !  rclxm9.gif 
Now, it laying on my customer’s side garden biggrin.gif
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fuyoh, nice!

how much was the labour/carpentry cost?
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>Hi, good day smile.gif

>For 1x4 x4feet, it is RM5/pcs include planing. It is Balau (yellow balau, same family with resak)

Picture of this above



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Planks ?
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>Hi, good day smile.gif

>For 1x4 x4feet, it is RM5/pcs include planing. It is Balau (yellow balau, same family with resak)

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Ohhh !


Please click below link for more info

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Ohhh !
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Thanks! That's what I was looking for.  Is this your FB page?
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Yes, this is my company pages smile.gif feel free to browse it. biggrin.gif
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hi all, awesome thread for some wood type knowledge!

Guys, sorry hijack abit newbie here dunno much about wood.
Can someone briefly explain/rate the type of superior wood we have in Msia?

From reading the forum:- best wood = belian which a forumer said can no longer find

So in ascending order

1. Belian
2. Balau/Selangan Batu
3. ?
4. ?

What about Cengal/Merbau/Nyatoh? Have not heard anyone mention teak wood?

How is our wood comparable with red oak/white oak/black walnut/maple from Western countries

Hope some wood experts can give some knowledge hehe



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hi all, awesome thread for some wood type knowledge!

Guys, sorry hijack abit newbie here dunno much about wood.
Can someone briefly explain/rate the type of superior wood we have in Msia?

From reading the forum:- best wood = belian which a forumer said can no longer find

So in ascending order

1. Belian
2. Balau/Selangan Batu
3. ?
4. ?

What about Cengal/Merbau/Nyatoh? Have not heard anyone mention teak wood?

How is our wood comparable with red oak/white oak/black walnut/maple from Western countries

Hope some wood experts can give some knowledge hehe
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It depends on what you want to do.

Superior might not be the best for your purposes ...

e.g.

1. Belian door - Fantastic and super strong but you wood need a b**** of framing + heavy duty hinges to hold the weight of the door (especially if the door is 8 feet tall x 3 feet wide type). Good idea but might not be feasible.
2. Flooring - some woods do not have very apparent wood grains hence might not be good for flooring.

Belian - yes getting harder to find as only processed belian can be exported from Sararawak or Sabah but this has also been limited supply. Wood expansion is not as high as other woods, termite resistant and wood colour changes over time (turns darker)

Balau - lighter colour wood primarily used to built nelayan boats. More water "resistant" (I think it is due to the wood oil which provides a layer of water resistance). Wood density is also quite high, so wood is heavier.

Cengal / Merbau / Nyatoh - more easily accessible and tropical wood. Handles our humidity better. Some might not like the yellow colour of the wood. Its actually cheaper (per feet) vs pine wood in Malaysia even though it is "considered" a more superior wood (using Janka rating as a guide). Merbau has quite high Janka rating ... e.g. very strong wood.

White Oak / Maple - Temperate climate wood, nice grains, primarily used for flooring. Would be suitable for areas which doesn't have moist or high water retention (think 2nd floor of a house or condominium). If you are staying near a forest and want to install this as flooring for the ground floor ... better make sure the waterproofing for your foundation is solid.

... again it depends on your purpose.

Furniture? Flooring? Shelving? Dining table? Cabinets? Woodwork? Building a boat?




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Greetings to Sifu Kayu Sekalian,

Being fascinated with the beauty of wood, i would love to incorporate wood element into the kitchen through open shelf and on the worktop just like as below :

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Before discover this thread, I've only found that Ikea had been selling these solid woods for the above project and choices are limited to either birch or pine.

So my questions are:-

1) Are there any better locally sourced wood that is better than what i can get in Ikea for the mentioned project?
2) is it the case that, the harder the wood, the better/long lasting it is?
3) Are there anymore alternatives to non toxic wood finishes other than bee wax, all the non rancid oils and shellac?

Thanks you for your patience to read through all these. Your insight is highly appreciated. biggrin.gif



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Greetings to Sifu Kayu Sekalian,

Being fascinated with the beauty of wood, i would love to incorporate wood element into the kitchen through open shelf and on the worktop just like as below :

user posted image

Before discover this thread, I've only found that Ikea had been selling these solid woods for the above project and choices are limited to either birch or pine.

So my questions are:-

1) Are there any better locally sourced wood that is better than what i can get in Ikea for the mentioned project?
2) is it the case that, the harder the wood, the better/long lasting it is?
3) Are there anymore alternatives to non toxic wood finishes other than bee wax, all the non rancid oils and shellac?

Thanks you for your patience to read through all these. Your insight is highly appreciated.  biggrin.gif
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Let's do the easy bits first ....

1) Are there any better locally sourced wood that is better than what i can get in Ikea for the mentioned project?
Most definitely! Ikea stuff are nicely designed but their materials are not the best (Ikea stuff doesn't last that long comparatively). If you take the KARLBY worktop as an example, its not hardwood but rather particleboards (similiar to compressed wood boards but different manufacturing process) sandwiched by a top layers of wood. So basically...

1. Ikea woods boards are not full hardwood but rather a layer of oak / birch glued on top of particleboards
2. The oak / birch used are strips not single a continuous piece
3. Ikea boards are going for RM600 - 8 feet x 2 feet countertop. Basically a plug and install with no further wood curing required

For Malaysia, best to use tropical wood (local Malaysian wood are best) - chengal, balau, teak, belian, etc.

As reference point (I bought some recently).
- Balau wood 6/8" x 2 6/8" is selling for 2.60 per feet
- Balau wood 6/8" x 3 6/8" is selling for 3.60 per feet

There are wood planks which you need to put some effort to planned, joined and finished to make a nice countertop. Joined wood are cheaper vs single piece of solidwood. Downside is the joined wood might warp or split over time.



2) is it the case that, the harder the wood, the better/long lasting it is?
For kitchen countertop you would want a wood that is stronger AND water resistant to a certain level - this shortens the options to belian (the best belian are those that was left at the bottom of the lake and resurfaced but those cost a fortune), balau and chengal are used to make outdoor decks so they are reasonably hardy to water and sunshine. Again for countertops, you want to have a nice colour or grain for show ... balau doesn't really have nice grain and tends to be more greyish in colour (can always stain it to a different colour) ; teak is more yellow-ish, doesn't follow currently design trends.
When you source for wood, you would also want it to be kiln treated - moisture content of the wood is reduced so the wood is more stable and won't crack due to expansion and contraction of the wood. Remember, wood is / was a living thing, hence it will crack as the fibres expands and contract.

For wood tops, excessive water left on top will cause water rings on the wood and you can't put pots direct from the stove on top of the wood top (will cause dark burn marks or for the wood to potentially crack - sudden heat applied to a concentrated area). Notwithstanding all of this, if you put it as part of your dry kitchen or shelvings it would look good - just not as hardy as tiles / granite / solid surfaces .... ahhh, the price to pay for having a wood countertop. Oh yes, your kitchen should also be well ventilated as dampness in the air (from heavy water source) might cause the wood to warp

All said above, using wood countertop for a standalone kitchen island or at certain parts of the kitchen will look very good.



3) Are there anymore alternatives to non toxic wood finishes other than bee wax, all the non rancid oils and shellac?
Wood stains, finishing wax, teak oil, decking oil, polyurethane wood stain ... plenty of options. You can go to Ace Hardware (I prefer the one at IPC near The Curve or at basement of Starling Mall) and check our their wood care section, there is plenty of selection there. If you are using wax, you probably need to apply it every 6 months once.

You can also check out other wood care options here - ATKC Warehouse - Wood Care




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Let's do the easy bits first ....

1) Are there any better locally sourced wood that is better than what i can get in Ikea for the mentioned project?
    Most definitely!  Ikea stuff are nicely designed but their materials are not the best (Ikea stuff doesn't last that long comparatively).  If you take the KARLBY worktop as an example, its not hardwood but rather particleboards (similiar to compressed wood boards but different manufacturing process) sandwiched by a top layers of wood.  So basically...

        1.  Ikea woods boards are not full hardwood but rather a layer of oak / birch glued on top of particleboards
        2.  The oak / birch used are strips not single a continuous piece
        3.  Ikea boards are going for RM600 -  8 feet x 2 feet countertop.  Basically a plug and install with no further wood curing required

  For Malaysia, best to use tropical wood (local Malaysian wood are best) - chengal, balau, teak, belian, etc. 

  As reference point (I bought some recently).
            - Balau wood 6/8" x 2 6/8" is selling for 2.60 per feet
            - Balau wood 6/8" x 3 6/8" is selling for 3.60 per feet

  There are wood planks which you need to put some effort to planned, joined and finished to make a nice countertop.  Joined wood are cheaper vs single piece of solidwood.  Downside is the joined wood might warp or split over time.



2) is it the case that, the harder the wood, the better/long lasting it is?
    For kitchen countertop you would want a wood that is stronger AND water resistant to a certain level - this shortens the options to belian (the best belian are those that was left at the bottom of the lake and resurfaced but those cost a fortune), balau and chengal are used to make outdoor decks so they are reasonably hardy to water and sunshine.  Again for countertops, you want to have a nice colour or grain for show ... balau doesn't really have nice grain and tends to be more greyish in colour (can always stain it to a different colour) ; teak is more yellow-ish, doesn't follow currently design trends. 
        When you source for wood, you would also want it to be kiln treated - moisture content of the wood is reduced so the wood is more stable and won't crack due to expansion and contraction of the wood.  Remember, wood is / was a living thing, hence it will crack as the fibres expands and contract. 

        For wood tops, excessive water left on top will cause water rings on the wood and you can't put pots direct from the stove on top of the wood top (will cause dark burn marks or for the wood to potentially crack - sudden heat applied to a concentrated area).  Notwithstanding all of this, if you put it as part of your dry kitchen or shelvings it would look good - just not as hardy as tiles / granite / solid surfaces .... ahhh, the price to pay for having a wood countertop.  Oh yes, your kitchen should also be well ventilated as dampness in the air (from heavy water source) might cause the wood to warp

        All said above, using wood countertop for a standalone kitchen island or at certain parts of the kitchen will look very good.
 
3) Are there anymore alternatives to non toxic wood finishes other than bee wax, all the non rancid oils and shellac?
    Wood stains, finishing wax, teak oil, decking oil, polyurethane wood stain ... plenty of options.  You can go to Ace Hardware (I prefer the one at IPC near The Curve or at basement of Starling Mall) and check our their wood care section, there is plenty of selection there.  If you are using wax, you probably need to apply it every 6 months once.
   
        You can also check out other wood care options here - ATKC Warehouse - Wood Care

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Wow thats a huge amount great information right there. Tqvm for taking your time to share your knowledge with us. biggrin.gif

Ikea does actually have solid wood worktop, but there are only two options which HAMMARP is the most common one (AKA the butcher top).

I think i can consider chengal. it does look good as a worktop biggrin.gif Dont really mind joined wood thou, but a single slab can be quite tempting if the price is within my budget. tongue.gif



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QUOTE(J_Vansen_S @ Jul 23 2018, 01:13 AM)
hi all, awesome thread for some wood type knowledge!

Guys, sorry hijack abit newbie here dunno much about wood.
Can someone briefly explain/rate the type of superior wood we have in Msia?

From reading the forum:- best wood = belian which a forumer said can no longer find

So in ascending order

1. Belian
2. Balau/Selangan Batu
3. ?
4. ?

What about Cengal/Merbau/Nyatoh? Have not heard anyone mention teak wood?

How is our wood comparable with red oak/white oak/black walnut/maple from Western countries

Hope some wood experts can give some knowledge hehe
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no such thing as best wood.
i got a pile of belian/chengal/local mahogany in my store. so far i didnt have any mood to even make indoor projects using it. the colors are dark brown/ dull.
but u know what, i still use white oak for my projects. cos you can cut and machine it properly and plenty of finishing options. for me, i prefer those. yesterday, just finish a Hard maple butcher block, superb grain pattern. although started woodworking using nyatoh, begining to move away from it also. local sawmill quality control, not so good. even its KD schedule is unknown whether properly done or not.

for outdoor, the local woods would be a good option since its suitable for our climate. can use balau (yellow or red) as promoted by threadstarter. use them to make fencing/pergola/awning etc.

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The wood you offer has been kiln dry or not?
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I would appreciate it if TS can show us the pictures of woodgrain for each wood species that you sell.

Because noob like me dont know anything about wood and dont know where to start with local timber.

Planning to build my own wardrobe, which wood is suitable? Would love to use wood with beautiful grain.
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QUOTE(zeucx @ Aug 16 2018, 10:31 AM)
I would appreciate it if TS can show us the pictures of woodgrain for each wood species that you sell.

Because noob like me dont know anything about wood and dont know where to start with local timber.

Planning to build my own wardrobe, which wood is suitable? Would love to use wood with beautiful grain.
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Yup, me too.

Ts, i m planning to do a bench for my dining table.
Maybe 1'plus x 6.5'
Though my wife dont like dark colors
Do u have anything to recommend ?

This looks good !

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The bench need 3 legs ? 2 cannot ?

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QUOTE(brapa? @ Aug 20 2018, 02:12 PM)
Yup, me too.

Ts, i m planning to do a bench for my dining table.
Maybe 1'plus x 6.5'
Though my wife dont like dark colors
Do u have anything to recommend ?

This looks good !

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The bench need 3 legs ? 2 cannot ?
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2 legs is possible I did a similar chair - 14" x 6" but had a steel frame structure for the wood to "sit" on.

If the wood is 2" thick, then you might not need the steel frame but just 2 steel legs on each end.
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2 legs is possible  I did a similar chair - 14" x 6" but had a steel frame structure for the wood to "sit" on. 

If the wood is 2" thick, then you might not need the steel frame but just 2 steel legs on each end.
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hi bigred, how much did it cost to do your steel frame + legs ?
Can be done at the grille shops ?
where r the places in kl i can go look for wood ?
many questions ha ? biggrin.gif
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hi bigred, how much did it cost to do your steel frame + legs ?
Can be done at the grille shops ?
where r the places in kl i can go look for wood ?
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The steel frame (it was actual mild flat bar steel frame) cost me RM250. Actual photo attached.

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More pics here

Yes, grille shops can do it as they would only need a welding machine and mild flat bar steel. Just a note that if you are doing this frame, make sure you have transport. It won't fit behind a car.

Depends on what type of wood you are looking for ... read the earlier part of the thread. Wood to be placed in-door / out-door / nice grain? Budget? I am only familiar around the Petaling Jaya area ... you can try one of the below areas,

a. Hoctrade Damansara Uptown
b. Chin Chun Hardware, Kampung Melayu Subang
c. Solid Wood Table, Sungai Buloh
d. Waysian Enterprise, Sungai Buloh New Village

The above are in no particular order. For #D, there are several shops within a 500 metre radius that sells timber (these are used to make wooden doors or house roof structures). I am sure you can find other areas in Klang and Cheras that also sells these woods.
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Thanks for the info & resource man,.
Took a look at your project thread, syok la can diy at home. Am gonna bookmark it for future reference.
I am trying to save some $, use a bench for 1 side instead of getting so many bar stools for my island bar dining table, so some presentable wood with not too deep color is in my mind.
For the bench, how is it attached to the metal ? Do u bring the plank to the steelframe maker to fabricate, then bring them home to screw yourself ?

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Thanks for the info & resource man,.
Took a look at your project thread, syok la can diy at home. Am gonna bookmark it for future reference.
I am trying to save some $, use a bench for 1 side instead of getting so many bar stools for my island bar dining table, so some presentable wood with not too deep color is in my mind.
For the bench, how is it attached to the metal ? Do u bring the plank to the steelframe maker to fabricate, then bring them home to screw yourself ?
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Yup, passed them the wood plank and they just fabricate the frame.

The wood just "drop" into the frame. There is no screw holding it to the frame. It doesn't move as when I lift the bench, I am actually holding the metal frame (not the wood) from below.

It was intentionally designed that way so I can swap the wood in the future if needed (so far not needed).
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QUOTE(bigred @ Aug 21 2018, 12:10 AM)
The steel frame (it was actual mild flat bar steel frame) cost me RM250.  Actual photo attached.

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More pics here

Yes, grille shops can do it as they would only need a welding machine and mild flat bar steel.  Just a note that if you are doing this frame, make sure you have transport.  It won't fit behind a car.

Depends on what type of wood you are looking for ... read the earlier part of the thread.  Wood to be placed in-door / out-door / nice grain?  Budget?  I am only familiar around the Petaling Jaya area ... you can try one of the below areas,

a. Hoctrade Damansara Uptown
b. Chin Chun Hardware, Kampung Melayu Subang
c.  Solid Wood Table, Sungai Buloh
d.  Waysian Enterprise, Sungai Buloh New Village

The above are in no particular order.  For #D, there are several shops within a 500 metre radius that sells timber (these are used to make wooden doors or house roof structures).  I am sure you can find other areas in Klang and Cheras that also sells these woods.
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thanks for sharing dude.

if you have budget you can also check out art of tree.
google Art of Tree HQ.
No 11, Jalan Utarid U5/12, Mutiara Subang, 40150 Shah Alam, Selangor

quite impressed with what they offer. but pricey tho, sometimes they have items on offer.

will check out the list you mentioned above.
Balau slab offer by TS is very value for money, but u will need some add on effort before can turn it into something nice rclxms.gif

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Considering solid wood for your home renovation? Then you might need to know the difference between natural wood and faux wood before making your purchase.
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The only wood i can source from multiple sawmill in Kuching : Selangan Batu, Durian Burung (Wtf?), Red Meranti and Belian (Borneo Ironwood)

I pow belian saja, but overkill at times. No other nice wood...sad
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hi Ijan, i am also from Kuchin. Which sawmill do you get your wood from? I am interested in wood working so plan to get a few pieces of wood but not sure where to source for it.
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QUOTE(thirdoption @ Oct 11 2018, 10:11 AM)
hi Ijan, i am also from Kuchin. Which sawmill do you get your wood from? I am interested in wood working so plan to get a few pieces of wood but not sure where to source for it.
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there is one from meranek samarahan to Batu 7
one at the boulevard/batu 5 traffic light
they are a few further down demak sana

quite a number, price lebioh kurang, but quality and choice of wood are very limited
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i love solid wood finish as well. My house is using rose wood flooring. However for our climate its hard to use wood besides belian that can withstand our weather outdoors. if not i would be using alot more pine / maple which is really nice. Our hard wood here is mainly very dark brown and those that can used outdoors like belian will turn black.
But im planning to do some interior finishes using maple /pine but its hard to find them here unless imported. In australia their whole roof framing is using oak wood.

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there is one from meranek samarahan to Batu 7
one at the boulevard/batu 5 traffic light
they are a few further down demak sana

quite a number, price lebioh kurang, but quality and choice of wood are very limited
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nice! i will check it out. thanks!
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today making white oak 2inch table top

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and some walnut and cherry 1inch boards just came in this week. thinking of what to make out of it.
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what kind of wood is the best for kitchen cabinets? someone recommended Nyatoh.. is it a good choice? thank you in advance !

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QUOTE(metaloid @ Oct 11 2018, 11:41 AM)
i love solid wood finish as well. My house is using rose wood flooring. However for our climate its hard to use wood besides belian that can withstand our weather outdoors. if not i would be using alot more pine / maple which is really nice. Our hard wood here is mainly very dark brown and those that can used outdoors like belian will turn black.
But im planning to do some interior finishes using maple /pine but its hard to find them here unless imported. In australia their whole roof framing is using oak wood.
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what about balau or chengal ? can use for outdoor right? although not as long lasting as belian maybe..
belian i heard is very rare now.. 1 shop i went near Tropicana.. selling solid wood furniture.. they have 2nd hand belian wood coffee table.. 4' x 2.5' selling around RM3500.. shakehead.gif
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what about balau or chengal ? can use for outdoor right? although not as long lasting as belian maybe..
belian i heard is very rare now.. 1 shop i went near Tropicana.. selling solid wood furniture.. they have 2nd hand belian wood coffee table.. 4' x 2.5' selling around RM3500..  shakehead.gif
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what kind of wood is the best for kitchen cabinets? someone recommended Nyatoh.. is it a good choice? thank you in advance !
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Interested to know about this too. Which type is good to be use as kitchen worktop.

BTW, are the woods treated? Do I have to worry about bringing wood borer or termites hitching the ride with the wood into my house?
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today making white oak 2inch table top

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and some walnut and cherry 1inch boards just came in this week. thinking of what to make out of it.
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very nice leh.. what is the length of the boards that you got?
white oak, walnut & cherry.. what are they suitable for? indoor table top? restaurant dining table also can use?
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very nice leh.. what is the length of the boards that you got?
white oak, walnut & cherry.. what are they suitable for? indoor table top? restaurant dining table also can use?
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most of my stock is white oak for now. lengths are 8-10feet for the 1inch boards. for 2inches. its around 10-14feet.

as for walnut and cherry and maple, we dont keep much, but its enough to make a dining table top. but may reserve it for smaller projects. (like end grain chess set, butcher block kitchen island etc)
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Interested to know about this too. Which type is good to be use as kitchen worktop.

many options depending on wood supplier, for me, white oak.

here is a pic of kitchen top being test fitted and cut to fit undermount sink (not yet sanding/finishing)


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this is another top after finishing is applied

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many options depending on wood supplier, for me, white oak.

here is a pic of kitchen top being test fitted and cut to fit undermount sink  (not yet sanding/finishing)
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this is another top after finishing is applied

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The pre-finished color is so nice. Are you a supplier? Mind if I PM you to inquire about price?
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The pre-finished color is so nice. Are you a supplier? Mind if I PM you to inquire about price?
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Oct 23 2018, 01:13 AM)
many options depending on wood supplier, for me, white oak.

here is a pic of kitchen top being test fitted and cut to fit undermount sink  (not yet sanding/finishing)
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this is another top after finishing is applied

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Bro, kayu apa? What did you use as finisher/sealer

Ada chamfer at the sink lip?
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Bro, kayu apa? What did you use as finisher/sealer

Ada chamfer at the sink lip?
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white oak.
didnt put chamfer, cos lightly round over the edges.
the shelves (not shown) has a micro chamfer 1.5-2mm
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white oak.
didnt put chamfer, cos lightly round over the edges.
the shelves (not shown) has a micro chamfer 1.5-2mm
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baru google white oak, impressive thing, marine grade.

berapa harga? Say 2ft by 10ft or whatever length you have. Of course joined wood, prefer factory joined wood as i dun have a 2 ft planner
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baru google white oak, impressive thing, marine grade.

berapa harga? Say 2ft by 10ft or whatever length you have. Of course joined wood, prefer factory joined wood as i dun have a 2 ft planner
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what is the thickness u need? 1inch (18-20mm after planned/sanded ) or 2inch (40-42mm)?
will check the incoming stocks and pm u later. location? smile.gif
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Location, SARAWAK, hahaha! But i can arrange for cargo pickup. If the price is right, no problem
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today making white oak 2inch table top

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Wow bro ! Beautiful work you have there !

PM your phone number to my inbox, i will introduce customer for you rclxms.gif

Sorry all, busying this 2 months, seldom visit LYN, my apologise notworthy.gif
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1" S4S

Location, SARAWAK, hahaha! But i can arrange for cargo pickup. If the price is right, no problem
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You have meet the right person, sir. He is really know about wood and make lot of good stuff biggrin.gif
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Wow bro ! Beautiful work you have there !

PM your phone number to my inbox, i will introduce customer for you  rclxms.gif

Sorry all, busying this 2 months, seldom visit LYN, my apologise notworthy.gif
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aiseh bos, supposed to visit you middle of the year, now already november hahaha. ok bro will pm you.
maybe this time ,really drive over to visit you since u can intro clients. hehe rclxms.gif

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what kind of wood is the best for kitchen cabinets? someone recommended Nyatoh.. is it a good choice? thank you in advance !
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nyatoh is the safe and easy choice. biggrin.gif
other harder woods, really need more skilled carpenters to work on it.
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aiseh bos, supposed to visit you middle of the year, now already november hahaha. ok bro will pm you.
maybe this time ,really drive over to visit you since u can intro clients. hehe rclxms.gif
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Ya la, i wait you until become spider stick to wall dy, laugh.gif

Come come , tea or coffee on me smile.gif
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hehe ok!

here is a serving board out of white oak.

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hehe ok!

here is a serving board out of white oak.

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You really need to come to my factory! I have lot of short length size, offer price for you !
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biggrin.gif i know.. that time i go to your cousin side of the kilang , already saliva drop. hahaha biggrin.gif
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aiseh bos, supposed to visit you middle of the year, now already november hahaha. ok bro will pm you.
maybe this time ,really drive over to visit you since u can intro clients. hehe rclxms.gif
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Sure ! I sold many piece of wood this few months, they seeking a experience carpenter like you do flex.gif
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Sure ! I sold many piece of wood this few months, they seeking a experience carpenter like you do  flex.gif
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i think thats the perfect combo. solid wood supplier work well with solid wood carpenter! rclxms.gif
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what did you use for joinery?
can share more internal pictures of the frame, sliders, drawer box

I have always been intrigued by joinery techniques but never had the time. And do not have the time/resources/supply to deal with solid wood, although i wish i do.

I only deal with engineered/manufactured wood saja pakai, ply, chip, mdf...sad
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what did you use for joinery?
can share more internal pictures of the frame, sliders, drawer box

I have always been intrigued by joinery techniques but never had the time. And do not have the time/resources/supply to deal with solid wood, although i wish i do.

I only deal with engineered/manufactured wood saja pakai, ply, chip, mdf...sad
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frame is black chipboard, bottom mount sliders

the top surface is using 18-20mm white oak,with side removable panels using Dnut and m6 bolts+screws from the back.
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frame is black chipboard, bottom mount sliders

the top surface is using 18-20mm white oak,with side removable panels using Dnut and m6 bolts+screws from the back.
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suprising, thats like ikea joinery confused.gif

chipboard edging covered with abs/wood veneer or solid wood face frame?

But the top is Hnnnnngh and i assume drawer front panels are also white oak?
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Hi can advise price for dining table?
join piece for 3.5ft * 5.5Ft
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suprising, thats like ikea joinery  confused.gif

chipboard edging covered with abs/wood veneer or solid wood face frame?

But the top is Hnnnnngh and i assume drawer front panels are also white oak?
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erm, ikea joinery for the internal shelves? those would be flat pack connectors.
we dont use those for the carcass. every thing build to become one row solid carcass.
you need to cos packing it full with records its super heavy, u need it to be rock solid

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all the wooden panels are using solid white oak with antique dark stain finish.

no probblem to make it out of entire solid wood, but we need to work on a given modest RM budget.
original solid oak item seen on etsy/pinterest was around 4-5k usd , although made here, the cost would still hit 5figure rm mark if made from solid oak.
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its commercial joinery, enables assembly and disassembly. The usage of D-Nut, is it because of the chipboard material that you are using as the carcass? Since chipboard cannot be joined reliably with normal wood technique.

I still have a Question, why din user cheaper local solid wood, rather pakai melamine chipboard?

And ya, IKEA furniture, you get what you paid for, that picture. But Etsy/Pinterest orang putih punya wood work, mahal at labor. Ad from pakistan/bangla murah, haha! J/k
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its commercial joinery, enables assembly and disassembly. The usage of D-Nut, is it because of the chipboard material that you are using as the carcass? Since chipboard cannot be joined reliably with normal wood technique.

I still have a Question, why din user cheaper local solid wood, rather pakai melamine chipboard?

And ya, IKEA furniture, you get what you paid for, that picture. But Etsy/Pinterest orang putih punya wood work, mahal at labor. Ad from pakistan/bangla murah, haha! J/k
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Dnut was used to join the white oak panels to the carcass on site.
why should i use any ikea style connector or dnut on building carcass frame itself?
its not made as flat pack design. cos i already mention the concern above why it wasnt built as flat packed.

as for being orang puteh or not, even if i paid local or banggla to join the white oak into panels and do proper dark staining, you think most of them can do it?
if they can, then they wont be cutting panels from Fingerjoint rubberwood. lets just say maybe 10% or less of the local cabinet makers can joint hard solid wood (directly using rough sawn timber).
maybe soft pine wood they can la. since they can stretch and squeeze the soft pine to form a tight glue line using their clamps, as for nyatoh, yea perhaps they can too, cos its mostly s4s planed already from the shop. its usually not rough sawn nyatoh.

last question:
I still have a Question, why din user cheaper local solid wood, rather pakai melamine chipboard?
matter of preference vs time frame vs budget. we can build both ways.
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Cant find much info on D Nut. I thought you said D Nut for carcass. Re read your ayat again, D Nut for top? I need to explore D Nut, i do see them a lot at my suppliers.

So what did you use for your chipboard edge? I'm on the 1+mm ABS edge banding, using contact cement, then trim using flush bit router...and I hate every moment of it. Any other solution other than commerial hot glue edge banding machine?

Cant find much resources sbb most other ppl in the world either use those iron on or speedtape, but their edge band is thin, boleh potong pakai pisau. Those are PVC edgebanding.

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Cant find much info on D Nut. I thought you said D Nut for carcass. Re read your ayat again, D Nut for top? I need to explore D Nut, i do see them a lot at my suppliers.

So what did you use for your chipboard edge? I'm on the 1+mm ABS edge banding, using contact cement, then trim using flush bit router...and I hate every moment of it. Any other solution other than commerial hot glue edge banding machine?

Cant find much resources sbb most other ppl in the world either use those iron on or speedtape, but their edge band is thin, boleh potong pakai pisau. Those are PVC edgebanding.
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chipboard you need panel saw with pre-score blade. no way you can get neat cuts using just a table saw.

as for banding

moved on to commercial hot glue machines, cant replace the speed and neatness of things. not to mention the strength of hot glue on thicker material like abs. once its neatly stuck on the chipboard...can just use a trim router with trim base (got one handle) and push it across all the edges
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its commercial joinery, enables assembly and disassembly. The usage of D-Nut, is it because of the chipboard material that you are using as the carcass? Since chipboard cannot be joined reliably with normal wood technique.

I still have a Question, why din user cheaper local solid wood, rather pakai melamine chipboard?

And ya, IKEA furniture, you get what you paid for, that picture. But Etsy/Pinterest orang putih punya wood work, mahal at labor. Ad from pakistan/bangla murah, haha! J/k
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Hi , nice question biggrin.gif


To me, there has alot of great and durable wood in here Malaysia, but then, still have no company to get use of it. I believe, if someone can bring up this culture, it has a very potential market in Global.

Since wood, are always a great accompaniment for human, we use it to create wonderful world before today rclxms.gif
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Dnut was used to join the white oak panels to the carcass on site.
why should i use any ikea style connector or dnut on building carcass frame itself?
its not made as flat pack design. cos i already mention the concern above why it wasnt built as flat packed.

as for being orang puteh or not, even if i paid local or banggla to join the white oak into panels and do proper dark staining, you think most of them can do it?
if they can, then they wont be cutting panels from Fingerjoint rubberwood. lets just say maybe 10% or less of the local cabinet makers can joint hard solid wood (directly using rough sawn timber).
maybe soft pine wood they can la. since they can stretch and squeeze the soft pine to form a tight glue line using their clamps, as for nyatoh, yea perhaps they can too, cos its mostly s4s planed already from the shop. its usually not rough sawn nyatoh.

last question:
I still have a Question, why din user cheaper local solid wood, rather pakai melamine chipboard?
matter of preference vs time frame vs budget. we can build both ways.
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Agreed on your statement, at the end, it is all about labour cost. Which will greatly impact end user buying price than the cost of the wood alone.

Solid wood like i am selling (Balau or Chengal) , need more time and man power to make it perfect finish. And there is lot of challenge to make use of it, it is not easy to join, and bend. You will need to settle the problem cause by improper drying or storing location, then, you will need to settle the cracking problem which cause by natural life effect, then come to each wood from different jungle will have different side effect during working.

Like log come from Kelantan will have some oil coming out (Chengal) , but from Perak it has no such problem, but it cracked easily.

This is all the thing they facing before you see a very beautiful furniture in shopping centre.



I has a customer who recently brought a Balau Slab from me to make a table, he send to Kuantan for further finishing job, the table is 5"x40"x10 feet, the cost until it look like a "real beautiful" table in 5star hotel is RM9000.
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This is all the thing they facing before you see a very beautiful furniture in shopping centre.

agree 1000%
alot of behind the scene processing of the raw wood before they look like those 10-20k table tops.
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agree 1000%
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Yesterday i visit 1 Utama, Petaling Jaya. In new wing, 4th floor i think, got 1 furniture store name Kare as i remember, was selling an Italy brand dining table around 3"x 40" x 8 feet, for RM49,888. Even discount 20% still need RM40k. That is still not whole piece of wood, it is joined with multiple pcs puke.gif

The upper floor is Celini, selling sofa and furniture too.
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QUOTE(PowerPC @ Nov 26 2018, 11:39 AM)
Yesterday i visit 1 Utama, Petaling Jaya. In new wing, 4th floor i think, got 1 furniture store name Kare as i remember, was selling an Italy brand dining table around 3"x 40" x 8 feet, for RM49,888. Even discount 20% still need RM40k. That is still not whole piece of wood, it is joined with multiple pcs  puke.gif

The upper floor is Celini, selling sofa and furniture too.
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haha kare is german i think, they specialize in crazy or wild designs haha


got another one at new wing 1u
those selling italian stuff
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got another one at new wing 1u
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Kare is above Celini , this 1 is below.

So expensive until i can't spell and think it name correctly laugh.gif
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Just wanted to share with you guy, a England husband and wife found my company on net, and make order for a house building in Langkawi.

Today, they come to me for seeing the sample and further discuss on the order. What's really surprising me is the husband make a beautiful model to show me piece by piece ! And the whole house is design by him ! He is 65 Years old. I was stunning when he mentioned that he bring along the model he have created, and looking for the way to built a wooden house without nail and screw ! I am respect for his passion.

Further surprising me is, he is the carpenter to built (with help from few ppl). When i saw the model with even furniture inside, i am get touched by his dream. I do hope you guy do the same notworthy.gif


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QUOTE(PowerPC @ Nov 29 2018, 03:53 PM)
Just wanted to share with you guy, a England husband and wife found my company on net, and make order for a house building in Langkawi.

Today, they come to me for seeing the sample and further discuss on the order. What's really surprising me is the husband make a beautiful model to show me piece by piece ! And the whole house is design by him ! He is 65 Years old. I was stunning when he mentioned that he bring along the model he have created, and looking for the way to built a wooden house without nail and screw ! I am respect for his passion.

Further surprising me is, he is the carpenter to built (with help from few ppl). When i saw the model with even furniture inside, i am get touched by his dream. I do hope you guy do the same  notworthy.gif
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carpentry work, u know who can do it already. biggrin.gif

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got some joined wood for my bench project
so sad can see crack lines on it
is the wood ok to use or will get worse in future ?

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Any recommendations on where to purchase nyatoh in Klang Valley?

Thanks!
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Hey guys,

Any recommendations on where to purchase nyatoh in Klang Valley?

Thanks!
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sg buloh got. but they cant give straight answer if 100% kd or not.
so we got ours from sawmill (collect from KD site) to be sure. wasting time to use potentially curved nyatoh to build furniture
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where crack?
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A lot of these small wavy lines on the wood..

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A lot of these small wavy lines on the wood..

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oh. those kind. usually we just cut it out and not use them
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Just wanted to share with you guy, a England husband and wife found my company on net, and make order for a house building in Langkawi.

Today, they come to me for seeing the sample and further discuss on the order. What's really surprising me is the husband make a beautiful model to show me piece by piece ! And the whole house is design by him ! He is 65 Years old. I was stunning when he mentioned that he bring along the model he have created, and looking for the way to built a wooden house without nail and screw ! I am respect for his passion.

Further surprising me is, he is the carpenter to built (with help from few ppl). When i saw the model with even furniture inside, i am get touched by his dream. I do hope you guy do the same  notworthy.gif
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damn.. mad respect to them!  notworthy.gif

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Ya, fully agree. I did the same.

They are really serious about the dream house.
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How much would something like this cost?
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and i tot im the king of the world when i self made a partition wall in my living room haha.
anyway, thanks for the sharing. im looking for new wood project upgrade for my house. sorry to be silly, where can i get your address?
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Hi, the wood that this England customer order is cost about RM18,000 for whole house of wood. smile.gif

QUOTE(klthor @ Dec 18 2018, 03:32 PM)
and i tot im the king of the world when i self made a partition wall in my living room haha.
anyway, thanks for the sharing. im looking for new wood project upgrade for my house. sorry to be silly, where can i get your address?
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Haha, no la, you have done a very good job. Lot of ppl love wood, but some of them included me is not familiar how to make wood better for use biggrin.gif

Professional carpenter like AR188 is really nice to meet, to learn from them.

Sure can, can i PM you about my address ? Thank you
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Hi, the wood that this England customer order is cost about RM18,000 for whole house of wood.  smile.gif
Haha, no la, you have done a very good job. Lot of ppl love wood, but some of them included me is not familiar how to make wood better for use biggrin.gif

Professional carpenter like AR188 is really nice to meet, to learn from them.

Sure can, can i PM you about my address ? Thank you
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some previous projects i did early this year.

its in white oak. but maybe will start making cool stuff in cengal/y.balau soon. brows.gif

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Hi, the wood that this England customer order is cost about RM18,000 for whole house of wood.  smile.gif
Haha, no la, you have done a very good job. Lot of ppl love wood, but some of them included me is not familiar how to make wood better for use biggrin.gif

Professional carpenter like AR188 is really nice to meet, to learn from them.

Sure can, can i PM you about my address ? Thank you
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wow, whole house for rm18k is not too bad at all but what kind of wood did he use for the main pillars? btw, where are you at bro? i might wanna drop by and look see look see on what you have
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Hi, the wood that this England customer order is cost about RM18,000 for whole house of wood.  smile.gif
Haha, no la, you have done a very good job. Lot of ppl love wood, but some of them included me is not familiar how to make wood better for use biggrin.gif

Professional carpenter like AR188 is really nice to meet, to learn from them.

Sure can, can i PM you about my address ? Thank you
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yaya sure
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sg buloh got. but they cant give straight answer if 100% kd or not.
so we got ours from sawmill (collect from KD site) to be sure. wasting time to use potentially curved nyatoh to build furniture
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Thanks.

Any chance you can share the location of the sawmill?
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Thanks.

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we cant disclose further at this moment.

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something we made early this year in nyatoh.

will probably build in balau similar items.

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guys, i painted my plank with polyurethane
and now its curved
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Been reading this post for a while but seems like no one is from Ipoh or Perak. Does any know where can i get hardwood seller/ reseller in Ipoh ?
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Hi bro.. please check your WA. I need doorframe urgently. sad.gif
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Been reading this post for a while but seems like no one is from Ipoh or Perak. Does any know where can i get hardwood seller/ reseller in Ipoh ?
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what kind of wood are you looking for and length?

if can fit alza like 7feet boards, no problem to send them to ipoh from klang valley.
finding the stocks of material /wood specis is more important than the location of seller.
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what kind of wood are you looking for and length?

if can fit alza like 7feet boards, no problem to send them to ipoh from klang valley.
finding the stocks of material /wood specis is more important than the location of seller.
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Wow, what a good news for me!
Yeah, because it's not easy to get nice wood in my area so my initial plan is to get any hardwood/ recommended by seller. Still a beginner so Im too new to tell what kinda wood I would like to get.

The main project is to build fences to block stray dogs from entering my parents house. And yeah, many more, from a chopping board to a cloth organizer, console table and shelving units.
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Wow, what a good news for me!
Yeah, because it's not easy to get nice wood in my area so my initial plan is to get any hardwood/ recommended by seller. Still a beginner so Im too new to tell what kinda wood I would like to get.

The main project is to build fences to block stray dogs from entering my parents house. And yeah, many more, from a chopping board to a cloth organizer, console table and shelving units.
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balau would be suitable for fences/and a door/gate

as for the others in bold.. naturally i might suggest white oak since i use them often in my existing projects
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balau would be suitable for fences/and a door/gate

as for the others in bold.. naturally i might suggest white oak since i use them often in my existing projects
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thanks for the info bro. Mind to PM tepi your contact so we can have further discussion and quotation please ?
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Recently, i went to Sunway Pyramid Shopping Centre, wow, their CNY decoration is simply touching my heart !

Although it is not real wood, but the way it reproducing Chinese Culture is really blowing mind ! It is just like a small area of Fujian in China.

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Wow, very nice finishing, my friend  rclxms.gif
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TQ boss. rclxms.gif cant wait to finish your 6feet TV slab rclxms.gif
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Hi, I am actually looking for root carving tea table for my house. By any chance, do you make it? It's really hard to find

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Something like this.
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What an excellent thread, some very interesting projects going on here.

I do follow a lot of wood-working channels on YouTube that are mostly from Canada and USA.

Alas these days I rarely ever do any wood working as have a little baby and can't use powertools at home.

Does anyone have any good places to source for veneers, more specifically walnut and maple veneers?
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this week, was making complex curves on the angled legs of a table using yellow balau
just finish sanding today.
mortise n tenon joint of course.

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Fantastic record cabinet, what wood is that?
If a cabinet like this but single row would cost how much?
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Fantastic record cabinet, what wood is that?
If a cabinet like this but single row would cost how much?
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its solid white oak for all the top, sides and drawer fronts
internal carcass is black chipboard.
sure, PM me your size L X W X D and how many drawers etc, will get back to you
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From this to this, thanks to @AR188 and his team great work, the pieces of Balau small slab become a beautiful TV Rack !

Everyone if want to have solid wood furniture or work, feel free to contact him. rclxms.gif


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how much of that will cost?

i'm looking for a unique wood to make single shelves for tv.

everybody is like going for scandi.just want something different.
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From this to this, thanks to @AR188 and his team great work, the pieces of Balau small slab become a beautiful TV Rack !

Everyone if want to have solid wood furniture or work, feel free to contact him.  rclxms.gif
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wow...thanks for the pics of the slab table! rclxms.gif

some pics of building the tv slab table

mortise &tenon legs

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how much of that will cost?

i'm looking for a unique wood to make single shelves for tv.

everybody is like going for scandi.just want something different.
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pricing depend on the size/wood/complexity of carpentry/finishing. biggrin.gif

if you have some idea u found on google or pinterest, perhaps we can make something similar to that. rclxms.gif


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How much is your chengal? got 2" x 4" (or bigger also can). Thanks.
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guys, i painted my plank with polyurethane
and now its curved
how come ?  rclxub.gif
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The wood warp not because of the paint. PU does not cause warping. Your wood wasn't dry enough when you work on it. As it dries over time, the wood will warp and change shape until it matches the environment's humidity.
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QUOTE(lawrencesha @ Jul 13 2019, 01:01 AM)
The wood warp not because of the paint. PU does not cause warping. Your wood wasn't dry enough when you work on it. As it dries over time, the wood will warp and change shape until it matches the environment's humidity.
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jilaka, the seller said its dried wood
anything i can do ?
been putting it level on the ground but still warped
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jilaka, the seller said its dried wood
anything i can do ?
been putting it level on the ground but still warped
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Unfortunately, no. To properly dry the wood, we need a big ass oven called a Kiln Dry. This process takes weeks if not months. It is too expensive to do here.

So, we usually allow nature to dry it and this takes years. I had some tembusu that was kept for years (close to 10 yrs) and it still warps.
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jilaka, the seller said its dried wood
anything i can do ?
been putting it level on the ground but still warped
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if its not to big piece, you can put in the back seat of your car, since we have hot day time. after a week alot of the moisture would have left the wood
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Unfortunately, no. To properly dry the wood, we need a big ass oven called a Kiln Dry. This process takes weeks if not months. It is too expensive to do here.

So, we usually allow nature to dry it and this takes years. I had some tembusu that was kept for years (close to 10 yrs) and it still warps.
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Jul 13 2019, 09:37 AM)
if its not to big piece, you can put in the back seat of your car, since we have hot day time. after a week alot of the moisture would have left the wood
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Thanks for the advice guys
I m resigned to its fate then
As its already painted
Maybe will put something heavy on it & just hope
It flattens
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if its not to big piece, you can put in the back seat of your car, since we have hot day time. after a week alot of the moisture would have left the wood
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Sorry. But that is a bad idea. That will indeed speed up the drying process. But it will just speed the warping. And because it dries too fast, the wood will have a higher chance to crack.
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how much of that will cost?

i'm looking for a unique wood to make single shelves for tv.

everybody is like going for scandi.just want something different.
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You can call him, depend on your requesr, the price can be vary but it sound reasonable to me. smile.gif

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How much is your chengal? got 2" x 4" (or bigger also can). Thanks.
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QUOTE(lawrencesha @ Jul 13 2019, 01:01 AM)
The wood warp not because of the paint. PU does not cause warping. Your wood wasn't dry enough when you work on it. As it dries over time, the wood will warp and change shape until it matches the environment's humidity.
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Ya, very good information here biggrin.gif

Even natural dry, it won't dry enough.

Another way to prevent such happen is used of older tree to cut, but then, it still not 100% ensure it won't wraps.

QUOTE(lawrencesha @ Jul 13 2019, 07:03 AM)
Unfortunately, no. To properly dry the wood, we need a big ass oven called a Kiln Dry. This process takes weeks if not months. It is too expensive to do here.

So, we usually allow nature to dry it and this takes years. I had some tembusu that was kept for years (close to 10 yrs) and it still warps.
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Good info.

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Sorry. But that is a bad idea. That will indeed speed up the drying process. But it will just speed the warping. And because it dries too fast, the wood will have a higher chance to crack.
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Sorry. But that is a bad idea. That will indeed speed up the drying process. But it will just speed the warping. And because it dries too fast, the wood will have a higher chance to crack.
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if the wood want to warp whether u dry it within 1 month or 1year also it will happen, as u said about your tembusu after 10year still warp..
so your recommended method still will warp also.. and need to wait 10year to find out!

anyway, after it dry then we will reshape and mill it to precise dimension and remove all the warp and twist in the process.

so the important part is learning to mill the timber to exact dimensions after the timber has warped.

for example, pic below. 6feet american white oak timber and after process or milling, warpage is max 0.5mm. thats tight dimensions and ready to use. (previous 3-4mm warpage at high points, no issue, all taken out of the timber)



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boss by the way, i just talked to one of the Kiln dry officers yesterday regarding why yellow balau send for KD when export for overseas market. they said its to remove the shrinkage issue caused by fresh cut balau water loss. after kd then the dimension is more stable for machining/carpentry work. biggrin.gif
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if the wood want to warp whether u dry it within 1 month or 1year also it will happen, as u said about your tembusu after 10year still warp..
so your recommended method still will warp also.. and need to wait 10year to find out!

anyway, after it  dry then we will reshape and mill it to precise dimension and remove all the warp and twist in the process.

so the important part is learning to mill the timber to exact dimensions after the timber has warped.

for example, pic below. 6feet american white oak timber and after process or milling, warpage is max 0.5mm. thats tight dimensions and ready to use. (previous 3-4mm warpage at high points, no issue, all taken out of the timber)
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I agree with your statement. The goal is to shape the wood AFTER it is dry.

But do read your own post above. You asking someone to put a ready furniture in a car to dry.

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I agree with your statement. The goal is to shape the wood AFTER it is dry.

But do read your own post above. You asking someone to put a ready furniture in a car to dry.
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its just a freakin plank. no need to exaggerate it as furniture rclxub.gif

so just dry it and accelerate the warping if that happens , and remill it to flat.

apa susah susah say there is no other way except to pay for big KD oven to solve the issue?

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Hahaha, nvm, since wood knowledge is wide as sea, we can share and talk with relax.

I also still learning, learning from everyone, asking what info that we not learned biggrin.gif

Many years until today, i still saw plenty of fresh issue happen in our stock. Some say is species problem, some say is weather issue, some say, well, is because it is natural thing ! So it need to have more time spend on finishing it.

Everyone is welcome to my factory to see, you will be well served biggrin.gif
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want to ask, if i provide you with the pictures of my cabinet design, will you be able to put out the pieces that i wanted and i do the installation myself hmm.gif
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want to ask, if i provide you with the pictures of my cabinet design, will you be able to put out the pieces that i wanted and i do the installation myself hmm.gif
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its possible to get someone to prepare those pieces to your requirement.
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its possible to get someone to prepare those pieces to your requirement.
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what would be the complication if the measurement is provided and you can cut according to size and send those pieces to me? or you only do it in large quantity?
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what would be the complication if the measurement is provided and you can cut according to size and send those pieces to me? or you only do it in large quantity?
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we can do one off items, no problem.
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pic above turn into table top already biggrin.gif
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Looks clean and flat, using any biscuits joiner to join the woods?
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Looks clean and flat, using any biscuits joiner to join the woods?
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yes sir we used 8-9pcs of lamello biscuit on each joint wood.. so each table of that size would have 80-100pcs. depend on the wood width and table width.

glue is titebond2.
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got a list of items that I need to build by myself, let's start with shoes cabinet which will mount on wall. Materials that I have in mind is balau wood. The 6 black dots are where it mount on wall

My questions is:

1. 6 bolts will use to mount the 16mm plywood on wall, is it sufficient to hold on the weight?
3. Since it's outdoor and expose to a little bit high of temperature. Will the wood starts to warp ?

Thanks Guys

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wrong thread to ask man.. panels/chipboard/mdf/blockboard in solid wood topic. biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(ar188 @ Aug 4 2019, 09:38 PM)
wrong thread to ask man.. panels/chipboard/mdf/blockboard in solid wood topic.  biggrin.gif
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lol, you're right. You know any thread for wood working related?
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lol, you're right. You know any thread for wood working related?
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this is the right wood working thread

the thread you looking to ask would be in the kitchen cabinets subjects
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Aug 5 2019, 09:23 AM)
this is the right wood working thread

the thread you looking to ask would be in the kitchen cabinets subjects
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got it, will amend my questions.
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Guys, I'm looking for laminated table top
Size : 2.5ft X 5ft X 1 inch thick
I need around 10 pcs

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Guys, I'm looking for laminated table top
Size : 2.5ft X 5ft X 1 inch thick
I need around 10 pcs

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chipboard right? normal is 18mm or so
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QUOTE(alex_leo @ Aug 12 2019, 02:50 PM)
Guys, I'm looking for laminated table top
Size : 2.5ft X 5ft X 1 inch thick
I need around 10 pcs

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Ikea got chipboard tables. https://www.ikea.com/my/en/p/rydebaeck-tabl...white-60281417/
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Ikea quite expensive sad.gif
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Their material is quite thick, exceeds 1" thick.
I don't think its that exp if you compared with the finished tables - http://www.afiah.com.my/banquettable.htm
Else can buy this and chop to 5ft https://www.lazada.com.my/products/white-la....16389.126158.0

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Their material is quite thick, exceeds 1" thick.
I don't think its that exp if you compared with the finished tables - http://www.afiah.com.my/banquettable.htm
Else can buy this and chop to 5ft https://www.lazada.com.my/products/white-la....16389.126158.0
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Wow thanks!
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Wow thanks!
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Or this as well https://www.woodpanel.com.my/
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Hi bro, how do i get in to7ch with you?

I have some wood work to be done.

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quote=PowerPC,Nov 24 2017, 03:58 PM]
Hi all, if you are looking solid wood to make a part of your house renovation work, or a part of your yard, garden, or even living room, you will need to have a look for below.

I'm from a sawmill, and our timber business was established since 1988, and expanding our business to home user now.


(*to mod, i am not making an advertisement here, as i'm just trying to share some idea of my house by using the timber from my factory to all user here. But, if any of mod discovered that my topic has offended any rules out here, i will be very happy to remove this topic. Thank you.)


I believe many people love wood, because wood can be the closest relationship to mother nature if we use it right. Sometimes , just a simple peace of wood can make your living room feel warm and welcome. But because the tree is getting less, some of you may though the wood is pricey, and premium. Actually, it don't really expensive if you purchase directly from factory. Also, you can use B-Grade wood, it look natural and cost saving.
Few years ago, i am starting using rejected wood (B-Grade) as decoration in my house, you can see those picture below. We can share some idea, too.
This is my tea-pot rack, by using B-Grade 2x4, a lot of natural hole in the wood, it then turn colour to brown after time. Did you know how much it cost here ? Per wood is only RM12.50 (for 10 feet length) , picture shown are 8 feet (RM9.00), 7 feet (RM7.50), and 6 feet (RM6.50).

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you will need only Wall-plug nail. Drill a hole in wood, depend on your load preference, usually needed only few nail, and "slot" in the wall-plug nail, voila, you have just make a nice rack.

This rack is using 4 feet 2x4 B-Grade wood, cost only RM3.00 per wood.
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Close-look for hole in wood.
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I am using steel fence before i make over all fencing to wood. Picture below shown are using 1x3x3ft wood (RM2.80 per pcs), as you can see, after 5 years, i am not even maintaining it, and it is all directly from bandsaw, without any touch-up (planning & paint) , it still stand.

To make it look better, i then nail some 1x4 (RM1.80/pcs) to make a flower-pot.
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Here's the self-made letter-box, which only cost very few ringgit to make it. few pcs of 1x4x2ft (RM1.80/pcs) , and 1pcs of 4x4x5ft (RM58.60/pcs).
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You may not like the original wood look without painting like my fence above, if you wish to make it more clean and smooth by painting it, you can refer the fencing of my other house below, this 1 using 1x4 , for just (RM3.70/pcs), the whole fencing cost about RM260 (for 30ft length).
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There are many table-top-sized wood in my factory, which actually hole and crack, so we rated it the B-Grade wood, and it can't sell to our customer since the usage propose aren't same. The size of such table-top wood usually 3"x12", 3"x14", 3"x16", or 4"x16". Original proposed for this size are making bridge, fishing boat, or other heavy duty use, some how, some logs aren't perfect, it has some hole, so, i then use it to make tea table for guest welcoming in my 2nd living room.

There have different size thus has different price. As your reference, like picture below, i am using 3"x12"x18ft , the table-top alone cost (RM315.00/pcs) , and then, i using the same species of log as support, the log size is 12x12x10ft (RM270/pcs) , and cutting it to 3pcs to support whole

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Greetings to Sifu Kayu Sekalian,

Being fascinated with the beauty of wood, i would love to incorporate wood element into the kitchen through open shelf and on the worktop just like as below :

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Before discover this thread, I've only found that Ikea had been selling these solid woods for the above project and choices are limited to either birch or pine.

So my questions are:-

1) Are there any better locally sourced wood that is better than what i can get in Ikea for the mentioned project?
2) is it the case that, the harder the wood, the better/long lasting it is?
3) Are there anymore alternatives to non toxic wood finishes other than bee wax, all the non rancid oils and shellac?

Thanks you for your patience to read through all these. Your insight is highly appreciated.  biggrin.gif
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Hi PowerPC

Been following your thread since it was first open. Its really cool to see how wood was use and learn quite a lot through so many knowledge sharing by so many wood enthusiast rclxms.gif

I've recently took my keys to my new home and i'm happy to try out some diy wood project of my own. Albeit, its a simple wall shelf but still i'm quite exciting about it

Long story short, i'm trying replicate the wall shelf as per the picture above.

So far i think its either pine wood + varnish could achieve such effect. I'm not sure if there is any other type of wood would replicate that light color feel. My choice would be limited by budget itself. probably expecting it to cost 400+- for 3 planks. (150cm L, 40cm W, 2cm Thickness)

If it were to custom cut, will be any limitation in terms or size, thickness or etc etc? would really like to see if there is anything you recommend.

Thanks and hope to hear from you soon.


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QUOTE(kabyss87 @ Aug 23 2019, 08:50 AM)
Hi PowerPC

Been following your thread since it was first open. Its really cool to see how wood was use and learn quite a lot through so many knowledge sharing by so many wood enthusiast  rclxms.gif

I've recently took my keys to my new home and i'm happy to try out some diy wood project of my own. Albeit, its a simple wall shelf but still i'm quite exciting about it

Long story short, i'm trying replicate the wall shelf as per the picture above.

So far i think its either pine wood + varnish could achieve such effect. I'm not sure if there is any other type of wood would replicate that light color feel. My choice would be limited by budget itself. probably expecting it to cost 400+- for 3 planks. (150cm L, 40cm W, 2cm Thickness)

If it were to custom cut, will be any limitation in terms or size, thickness or etc etc? would really like to see if there is anything you recommend.

Thanks and hope to hear from you soon.
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yes we have gluedup pine panels which could be made to those size. no issue. 400 can do. thickness is 17-18 mm standard.
finishing, you can just buy rm10-20 clear lacquer spray.

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QUOTE(kabyss87 @ Aug 23 2019, 08:50 AM)
Hi PowerPC

Been following your thread since it was first open. Its really cool to see how wood was use and learn quite a lot through so many knowledge sharing by so many wood enthusiast  rclxms.gif

I've recently took my keys to my new home and i'm happy to try out some diy wood project of my own. Albeit, its a simple wall shelf but still i'm quite exciting about it

Long story short, i'm trying replicate the wall shelf as per the picture above.

So far i think its either pine wood + varnish could achieve such effect. I'm not sure if there is any other type of wood would replicate that light color feel. My choice would be limited by budget itself. probably expecting it to cost 400+- for 3 planks. (150cm L, 40cm W, 2cm Thickness)

If it were to custom cut, will be any limitation in terms or size, thickness or etc etc? would really like to see if there is anything you recommend.

Thanks and hope to hear from you soon.
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Hi, thanks for your following, biggrin.gif

Wood does make very natural looking all the way for home, and yes, you can done it by buying those short prank, but our process wood is heavy to use as such proposed, you should consult ar188 for his recommendation about other light wood.

QUOTE(ar188 @ Aug 23 2019, 10:53 AM)
yes we have gluedup pine panels which could be made to those size. no issue. 400 can do. thickness is 17-18 mm standard.
finishing, you can just buy rm10-20 clear lacquer spray.
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See ? This is what i mention above.
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QUOTE(PowerPC @ Aug 26 2019, 11:05 AM)
Hi, thanks for your following, biggrin.gif

Wood does make very natural looking all the way for home, and yes, you can done it by buying those short prank, but our process wood is heavy to use as such proposed, you should consult ar188 for his recommendation about other light wood.
See ? This is what i mention above.
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TQ boss for your kind words. biggrin.gif
your balau wood is indeed solid hard wood! flex.gif
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Aug 23 2019, 10:53 AM)
yes we have gluedup pine panels which could be made to those size. no issue. 400 can do. thickness is 17-18 mm standard.
finishing, you can just buy rm10-20 clear lacquer spray.
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Im a bit worried about the glue part. not so sure about the durability throughout the years of usage. i mean i'd be using it as a kitchen shelf, so naturally it would have to hold heavy stuff. I think most pine in malaysia are the soft type, but so long it serve it purposes then im fine. Else rubber wood would be the best alternative in terms of budget build?

Kindly advise. tqvm laugh.gif

QUOTE(PowerPC @ Aug 26 2019, 11:05 AM)
Hi, thanks for your following, biggrin.gif

Wood does make very natural looking all the way for home, and yes, you can done it by buying those short prank, but our process wood is heavy to use as such proposed, you should consult ar188 for his recommendation about other light wood.
See ? This is what i mention above.
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So using those hardwood is a bit overkill for kitchen shelves i guess.. but it looks so good! laugh.gif

Wait till i have more budget. thumbup.gif

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TQ boss for your kind words.  biggrin.gif
your balau wood is indeed solid hard wood!  flex.gif
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It is too heavy and overkill for them biggrin.gif Such wood need to step by lorry ~~ ahaha

QUOTE(kabyss87 @ Aug 27 2019, 12:29 PM)
Im a bit worried about the glue part. not so sure about the durability throughout the years of usage. i mean i'd be using it as a kitchen shelf, so naturally it would have to hold heavy stuff. I think most pine in malaysia are the soft type, but so long it serve it purposes then im fine. Else rubber wood would be the best alternative in terms of budget build?

Kindly advise. tqvm  laugh.gif
So using those hardwood is a bit overkill for kitchen shelves i guess.. but it looks so good!  laugh.gif

Wait till i have more budget.  thumbup.gif
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Ya ya, over kill ~~

But then if you have extra land, you can buy some slab from me and make table there, can enjoy moon light during night, chit chat with friend.
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TS, do you have any slab suitable for dining table? 6-7 feet long, 3inch +/- thick
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Hi TS do you have wood for staircase? Those wood plank glue on the staircase steps and landing. Thank you.
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QUOTE(PowerPC @ Aug 27 2019, 02:55 PM)
It is too heavy and overkill for them  biggrin.gif  Such wood need to step by lorry ~~ ahaha
Ya ya, over kill ~~

But then if you have extra land, you can buy some slab from me and make table there, can enjoy moon light during night, chit chat with friend.
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ar188 actually poisoned me with his white oat.. so now my shelves will be hard wood instead.. laugh.gif

next time if i have a bigger house, a slab is a must rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(kabyss87 @ Aug 29 2019, 08:50 AM)
ar188 actually poisoned me with his white oat.. so now my shelves will be hard wood instead..  laugh.gif

next time if i have a bigger house, a slab is a must  rclxms.gif
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You won't regret after put some wood inside your house ~~ biggrin.gif
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You won't regret after put some wood inside your house ~~ biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(PowerPC @ Nov 24 2017, 03:58 PM)
[b]Hi all, if you are looking solid wood to make a part of your house renovation work, or a part of your yard, garden, or even living room, you will need to have a look for below.
Thanks for sharing, TS. You should post some videos on Youtube as well. Interesting projects you have. I love seeing all these solid wood furniture instead of particle board. Sadly, I think most people furniture are all particle board or MDF because that's all that's being sold on the internet and in furniture shops.
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QUOTE(agewisdom @ Sep 13 2019, 04:40 PM)
Thanks for sharing, TS. You should post some videos on Youtube as well. Interesting projects you have. I love seeing all these solid wood furniture instead of particle board. Sadly, I think most people furniture are all particle board or MDF because that's all that's being sold on the internet and in furniture shops.
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Hi sir, thanks for your idea, appreciated it.

I am sorry but due to we are only sawmill factory, we are only output raw wood, as we don't have any skilled furniture workers, thanks to few forumers here who very pro to do anything and post their job here, i am very happy to see that too.

Here can also be a place for all who keen to share it smile.gif
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QUOTE(PowerPC @ Sep 13 2019, 08:58 PM)
Hi sir, thanks for your idea, appreciated it.

I am sorry but due to we are only sawmill factory, we are only output raw wood, as we don't have any skilled furniture workers, thanks to few forumers here who very pro to do anything and post their job here, i am very happy to see that too.

Here can also be a place for all who keen to share it smile.gif
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Well, thanks for sharing at least. Too bad you don't have any skilled furniture workers. Usually the value added and margins are at the last stage. Before that, your raw wood is just a commodity. But after work done on it, it becomes a valuable product.

I think simple things like table or stools (even just the raw tree trunk) could be products you can consider in the future. Then again, there are many other factors to consider. Guess we don't appreciate solid wood furniture unlike in overseas.


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QUOTE(agewisdom @ Sep 13 2019, 09:04 PM)
Well, thanks for sharing at least. Too bad you don't have any skilled furniture workers. Usually the value added and margins are at the last stage. Before that, your raw wood is just a commodity. But after work done on it, it becomes a valuable product.

I think simple things like table or stools (even just the raw tree trunk) could be products you can consider in the future. Then again, there are many other factors to consider. Guess we don't appreciate solid wood furniture unlike in overseas.
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Ya, your statement is exactly my think few years before, but it still stuck at beginning even until today, because of the workers issue.

Thats why we are only able to sell raw wood.

We have plenty of space left in our factory here, what we need is skilled person like @AR188 .

Even our wastes can create alot of stunning project nod.gif
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QUOTE(PowerPC @ Sep 13 2019, 09:47 PM)
Ya, your statement is exactly my think few years before, but it still stuck at beginning even until today, because of the workers issue.

Thats why we are only able to sell raw wood.

We have plenty of space left in our factory here, what we need is skilled person like @AR188 .

Even our wastes can create alot of stunning project  nod.gif
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Great minds think alike laugh.gif

Do keep sharing here and your FB on your customers project. Who knows, maybe they'll be opportunities in the future.

A lot of time, people just treat furniture as a consumable rather than a piece of art. Good wooden furniture especially those in the past were really intricate. Now, finding workers to even convert raw wood into simple furniture becomes a problem. I can't imagine how skilled those furniture craftsman were in the past. No nails also, some no glue also.
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QUOTE(PowerPC @ Sep 13 2019, 09:47 PM)
Ya, your statement is exactly my think few years before, but it still stuck at beginning even until today, because of the workers issue.

Thats why we are only able to sell raw wood.

We have plenty of space left in our factory here, what we need is skilled person like @AR188 .

Even our wastes can create alot of stunning project  nod.gif
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TQ boss..one day hope to make a big pergola using your super yellow balau wood!
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QUOTE(agewisdom @ Sep 13 2019, 10:00 PM)
Great minds think alike  laugh.gif

Do keep sharing here and your FB on your customers project. Who knows, maybe they'll be opportunities in the future.

A lot of time, people just treat furniture as a consumable rather than a piece of art. Good wooden furniture especially those in the past were really intricate. Now, finding workers to even convert raw wood into simple furniture becomes a problem. I can't imagine how skilled those furniture craftsman were in the past. No nails also, some no glue also.
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Ya, i am doing it but not full time update, since sometimes i am busying, day by day, it passed biggrin.gif

Really happy to see your comment here, learn alot. Will try to find a way about it.
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TQ boss..one day hope to make a big pergola using your super yellow balau wood!
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Welcome to pick ~ biggrin.gif
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Welcome to pick ~ biggrin.gif
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rclxms.gif i will always remember the big square log with a huge hole in centre.
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hi all wood masters
i'm a home diy beginner. being a beginner, i dont have many tools.
i've just glued 4 pieces of 2x4 pines to make a table top size 5' in length. the problem is that the timber does not align properly. i saw some misalignment about 1/8" here and there. the wood is not straight enough.
i hope someone can assist to guide me here in correcting it.
1. is it enough if i go n buy an electric hand planer? can i also finish/smoothen the board with this planer?
2. or should i get an orbital sander instead? can it be corrected with this?
3. buy both?, budget not large la. i understand the quality ones is quite pricey.

currently i only have a circular saw and nothing more.

hoping for your learned advise.


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hi all wood masters
i'm a home diy beginner. being a beginner, i dont have many tools.
i've just glued 4 pieces of 2x4 pines to make a table top size 5' in length. the problem is that the timber does not align properly. i saw some misalignment about 1/8" here and there. the wood is not straight enough.
i hope someone can assist to guide me here in correcting it.
1. is it enough if i go n buy an electric hand planer? can i also finish/smoothen the board with this planer?
2. or should i get an orbital sander instead? can it be corrected with this?
3. buy both?, budget not large la. i understand the quality ones is quite pricey.

currently i only have a circular saw and nothing more.

hoping for your learned advise.
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need some pics to see what sort of wood alignment u mention
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hi guys,
just wondering if any carpenter in klang valley is experienced in belian wood? im thinking of getting a dining table but still unsure whether to get it completely done or design myself and just get the raw wood instead.
the available belian dining tables design are just too...flat.... hahha
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Unproccessed belian wood are not allowed to be exported from Sabah / Sarawak.

They are usually made into furniture then only shipped out of Sabah / Sarawak.

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QUOTE(Derril @ Nov 6 2019, 08:51 PM)
Hello, everyone. Wood has a large number of advantages over concrete. It is cheaper, faster, lighter, easier to work with and it is renewable. Concrete is usually placed in wood forms, so there is a large amount of wood used in concrete construction anyway (you can clean and reuse it, but for a small project like a house there is a lot of it wasted)
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Theoretically the wood can be reused but the concern is that they often contain a lot of nails if used in construction formwork. Would need a lot of effort to denail (I think it can be analogous to repurposing wooden pallet)
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pic above  turn into table top already  biggrin.gif
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Hi for this table if use white Ash wood, how much would it cost ya?
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Hi for this table if use white Ash wood, how much would it cost ya?
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Hi All Sifu,

I would like to get some education on timber usage/type application in Malaysia/KV market.

What is the different between the timber like balau/nyatoh (high-end type) compare to those selling in large construction material suppliers? Are they the same type of wood just not as finished as those mentioned here?

Basically I trying to figure out, are these "high-end" timber are meant for outdoor durability and they are being seen/touch by the user thus they are more expensive. and those "cheaper" type selling at construction supplier are mainly for structural/framing and eventually hidden from user thus they are cheaper type of wood?

Hope my question make sense sweat.gif


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QUOTE(ryancfs @ May 17 2020, 02:20 PM)
Hi All Sifu,

I would like to get some education on timber usage/type application in Malaysia/KV market.

What is the different between the timber like balau/nyatoh (high-end type) compare to those selling in large construction material suppliers? Are they the same type of wood just not as finished as those mentioned here?

Basically I trying to figure out, are these "high-end" timber are meant for outdoor durability and they are being seen/touch by the user thus they are more expensive. and those "cheaper" type selling at construction supplier are mainly for structural/framing and eventually hidden from user thus they are cheaper type of wood?

Hope my question make sense  sweat.gif
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Hi, hope my answer is right and can help you smile.gif

For heavy type (or strong) wood like balau, cengal, merbau, resak, kranji etc, they strong and last longer in out door even without treatment mostly is because of it peak density per wood, so it is strong and stand for wet condition.

For other soft wood or medium , medium hard wood (usually they will call “mix hard wood” or mhw), they are softer and less packed in density, so it is light, suitable for light project, furniture, or thing that don’t need extreme support, or less burden to structure etc. One good thing for softer wood is easy to work for carpenter to shape or refine it.

To make soft wood to become last longer and water resistant as possible, usually they add kin dry (heat) , steam, chemical etc . But it will still not strong as above heavy wood when come to extreme job. But if use it right, it can as useful as heavy wood smile.gif


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Hi, hope my answer is right and can help you smile.gif

For heavy type (or strong) wood like balau, cengal, merbau, resak, kranji etc, they strong and last longer in out door even without treatment mostly is because of it peak density per wood, so it is strong and stand for wet condition.

For other soft wood or medium , medium hard wood (usually they will call “mix hard wood” or mhw), they are softer and less packed in density, so it is light, suitable for light project, furniture, or thing that don’t need extreme support, or less burden to structure etc. One good thing for softer wood is easy to work for carpenter to shape or refine it.

To make soft wood to become last longer and water resistant as possible, usually they add kin dry (heat) , steam, chemical etc . But it will still not strong as above heavy wood when come to extreme job. But if use it right, it can as useful as heavy wood smile.gif
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Hi PowerPC, thanks for the reply. Not really the answer I am looking for... biggrin.gif but appreciate it none the less.

Maybe my question was not very clear. Hmm... how should I put it. Ok... I am trying to DIY a small deck at my garden so i am trying to come outwith a material list. So I know the deck boards and the rim joists I should use these so called high-end wood like balau,cengal,resak...etc because they are exposed to the weather AND they will be seen and touch by people. and these woods are pricey.

Then my question I have is, what about those structural members of the deck that are hidden from view and touch (like posts/joists). Sure, they need to be strong for obvious reason but they dun need to be pretty to the eye and touch. So what type of wood should i use? Yes, I could just use those high-end wood but i would like to keep the cost down so what type of wood is suitable (strong) and maybe cheaper (coz dun need to look nice).

Any sifu can advise. Thanks.

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Hi PowerPC, thanks for the reply. Not really the answer I am looking for...  biggrin.gif  but appreciate it none the less.

Maybe my question was not very clear. Hmm... how should I put it. Ok... I am trying to DIY a small deck at my garden so i am trying to come outwith a material list. So I know the deck boards and the rim joists I should use these so called high-end wood like balau,cengal,resak...etc because they are exposed to the weather AND they will be seen and touch by people. and these woods are pricey.

Then my question I have is, what about those structural members of the deck that are hidden from view and touch (like posts/joists). Sure, they need to be strong for obvious reason  but they dun need to be pretty to the eye and touch. So what type of wood should i use? Yes, I could just use those high-end wood but i would like to keep the cost down so what type of wood is suitable (strong) and maybe cheaper (coz dun need to look nice).

Any sifu can advise. Thanks.
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You are welcome biggrin.gif , Maybe i am not really understand your previous question laugh.gif

Now i understand dy biggrin.gif


Is those "part" expose to rain and sun ? If yes, you can still use Mix Hard Wood (MHW) which usually have chemical and treated, even it is still not as strong as premium hardwood.

Hope my answer help nod.gif
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can anyone recommend the sandpaper grit and coating oil i should use for my white oak counter?
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You can ask sifu @AR188  cool2.gif  He is expert in wood work biggrin.gif
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Izzit ? no wonder not see him up so many months, maybe he is busy ?
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Hi all, if you are looking solid wood to make a part of your house renovation work, or a part of your yard, garden, or even living room, you will need to have a look for below.

I'm from a sawmill, and our timber business was established since 1988, and expanding our business to home user now.


(*to mod, i am not making an advertisement here, as i'm just trying to share some idea of my house by using the timber from my factory to all user here. But, if any of mod discovered that my topic has offended any rules out here, i will be very happy to remove this topic. Thank you.)


I believe many people love wood, because wood can be the closest relationship to mother nature if we use it right. Sometimes , just a simple peace of wood can make your living room feel warm and welcome. But because the tree is getting less, some of you may though the wood is pricey, and premium. Actually, it don't really expensive if you purchase directly from factory. Also, you can use B-Grade wood, it look natural and cost saving.
Few years ago, i am starting using rejected wood (B-Grade) as decoration in my house, you can see those picture below. We can share some idea, too.
This is my tea-pot rack, by using B-Grade 2x4, a lot of natural hole in the wood, it then turn colour to brown after time. Did you know how much it cost here ? Per wood is only RM12.50 (for 10 feet length) , picture shown are 8 feet (RM9.00), 7 feet (RM7.50), and 6 feet (RM6.50).



you will need only Wall-plug nail.  Drill a hole in wood, depend on your load preference, usually needed only few nail, and "slot" in the wall-plug nail, voila, you have just make a nice rack.

This rack is using 4 feet 2x4 B-Grade wood, cost only RM3.00 per wood.


Close-look for hole in wood.

I am using steel fence before i make over all fencing to wood. Picture below shown are using 1x3x3ft wood (RM2.80 per pcs), as you can see, after 5 years, i am not even maintaining it, and it is all directly from bandsaw, without any touch-up (planning & paint) , it still stand.

To make it look better, i then nail some 1x4 (RM1.80/pcs) to make a flower-pot.


Here's the self-made letter-box, which only cost very few ringgit to make it. few pcs of 1x4x2ft (RM1.80/pcs) , and 1pcs of 4x4x5ft (RM58.60/pcs).

You may not like the original wood look without painting like my fence above, if you wish to make it more clean and smooth by painting it, you can refer the fencing of my other house below, this 1 using 1x4 , for just (RM3.70/pcs), the whole fencing cost about RM260 (for 30ft length).

There are many table-top-sized wood in my factory, which actually hole and crack, so we rated it the B-Grade wood, and it can't sell to our customer since the usage propose aren't same. The size of such table-top wood usually 3"x12", 3"x14", 3"x16", or 4"x16". Original proposed for this size are making bridge, fishing boat, or other heavy duty use, some how, some logs aren't perfect, it has some hole, so, i then use it to make tea table for guest welcoming in my 2nd living room.

There have different size thus has different price. As your reference, like picture below, i am using 3"x12"x18ft , the table-top alone cost (RM315.00/pcs) , and then, i using the same species of log as support, the log size is 12x12x10ft (RM270/pcs) , and cutting it to 3pcs to support whole table.

The table-top surface has paper sanded to smooth, and with those hole and crack, it look unique.  I has seen the same type of table selling at antique shop for more than RM12'000 !!!

But i am only make it for less than RM800.00 for this table, included labor to make it. (wood alone total = RM585 only)

I am looking forward to build more wood-work and share here biggrin.gif Thank you for viewing.
You can visit our factory facebook and website for more detail :  www.fb.com/fltimber    or  http://fltimber.business.site .
nice advice I'll look in detail later
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You are welcome biggrin.gif , Maybe i am not really understand your previous question laugh.gif

Now i understand dy biggrin.gif
Is those "part" expose to rain and sun ? If yes, you can still use Mix Hard Wood (MHW) which usually have chemical and treated, even it is still not as strong as premium hardwood.

Hope my answer help  nod.gif
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Hi PowerPC, thank you for your advice. may i know what are Mix Hard Wood in Malaysia? scare i go to the local hardware store or lumber mill and ask for mix hard wood the uncle or the foreign worker there will answer me "Huh...?" confused.gif

hahaha...
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Hi PowerPC, thank you for your advice. may i know what are Mix Hard Wood in Malaysia? scare i go to the local hardware store or lumber mill and ask for mix hard wood the uncle or the foreign worker there will answer me "Huh...?"  confused.gif

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Hi, good day smile.gif mixed hardwood in Malaysia has many names, like red wood, tembusu, sawit , pama, and lot of name. Their character are all light and multiple colour.
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Hi, I am new here. I plan to make a table similar to the following link. https://youtu.be/XiH6AWipeuQ
My worry point is the warpage and shrinkage of the wood causing it can't move properly. Do you guys think cengal good enough to do this project?
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Hi, good day smile.gif mixed hardwood in Malaysia has many names, like red wood, tembusu, sawit , pama, and lot of name. Their character are all light and multiple colour.
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Hi PowerPC, again thanks for the reply. So these mixed hardwood are cheaper than those "highend" hardwood right? What price range should I be expecting for mixed hardwood?
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Hi PowerPC, again thanks for the reply. So these mixed hardwood are cheaper than those "highend" hardwood right? What price range should I be expecting for mixed hardwood?
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You are most welcome biggrin.gif


Usually, it will be about 40 to 50% cheaper than premiun hardwood, depend on the dimension you looking (custom size or common size), the length you request will also effect the price range biggrin.gif
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You are most welcome biggrin.gif
Usually, it will be about 40 to 50% cheaper than premiun hardwood, depend on the dimension you looking (custom size or common size), the length you request will also effect the price range biggrin.gif
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Hi, wood hobbist here.

Anyone have idea what is the name of this wood. It is heavier and harder than common pallet wood.

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Hi, is balau suitable for kitchen worktop?
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Hi, is balau suitable for kitchen worktop?
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Single slab would be expensive. Joining several pieces as per
will require all of them to be S4S and planed down to the same height.
Getting someone to plane hardwood like balau MAY be a challenge.
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Single slab would be expensive. Joining several pieces as per
will require all of them to be S4S and planed down to the same height.
Getting someone to plane hardwood like balau MAY be a challenge.
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Yes, quite suitable. It's hardwood and durable vs water. Used for wood decking and used to built traditional boats.

Can join several pieces BUT make sure it is done right otherwise the places where it is joined might split or come up (warping due to poor joint).

It doesn't have much grain on the wood (unlike oak) hence won't be a conversation piece for the kitchen but durable and functional. Will look quite good if under proper lighting.
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Yes, quite suitable.  It's hardwood and durable vs water.  Used for wood decking and used to built traditional boats.

Can join several pieces BUT make sure it is done right otherwise the places where it is joined might split or come up (warping due to poor joint).

It doesn't have much grain on the wood (unlike oak) hence won't be a conversation piece for the kitchen but durable and functional.  Will look quite good if under proper lighting.
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Yup agree on the "bulletproof" characteristics of balau. Very durable and no need to panic even if it got a little wet.
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Hi all sifus here, have you all heard of Surian Batu wood?

I found in Laz that one 6 feet as dining table. Considering
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Hi all sifus here, have you all heard of Surian Batu wood?

I found in Laz that one 6 feet as dining table. Considering
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Hi my fren, is that a seller name SL Wood ? It is my cousin.

Surian Batu has rich texture, great for indoor biggrin.gif
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Hi my fren, is that a seller name SL Wood ? It is my cousin.

Surian Batu has rich texture, great for indoor  biggrin.gif
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hi bos long time no see.

ohh i tot the balau wood at online sales is you... biggrin.gif
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balau too wide range of specis under shorea.. some are really difficult to keep straight even after s4s...
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Hi my fren, is that a seller name SL Wood ? It is my cousin.

Surian Batu has rich texture, great for indoor  biggrin.gif
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hahaha... yes, I checked with two sellers, he is one of them.

thinking to buy smaller piece as coffee table first, worry the colour not ngam with me.

I also worry they send me first level polish only, I need to DIY then habislah... 😂😂😂
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hi bos long time no see.

ohh i tot the balau wood at online sales is you... biggrin.gif
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Hi boss, you are right, the Balau portion is mine, chengal and other species is my cousin biggrin.gif

Long time no hear from you, how are you doing now ?
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hahaha... yes, I checked with two sellers, he is one of them.

thinking to buy smaller piece as coffee table first, worry the colour not ngam with me.

I also worry they send me first level polish only, I need to DIY then habislah... 😂😂😂
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You wont be wrong if buying from him, the color will be change overtime since it is natural material.

The finishing level from them is nearly right to use, but still need some touch up to the finest detail, depend on your taste. rclxms.gif
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Is Balau commonly used as batten for floors (for solid wood flooring)? Or normally no need hardwood for battens?
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Hi boss. Got catalogue to browse for inspiration or not
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You wont be wrong if buying from him, the color will be change overtime since it is natural material.

The finishing level from them is nearly right to use, but still need some touch up to the finest detail, depend on your taste.  rclxms.gif
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Bro, wanna seek your opinion...

btwn Chengal, Balau, Surian Batu which one is the darkest? like American Walnut kind of dark..?

haha.. your cousin got take walk in customer? susah to communicate on Laz la..
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Bro, wanna seek your opinion...

btwn Chengal, Balau, Surian Batu which one is the darkest? like American Walnut kind of dark..?

haha.. your cousin got take walk in customer? susah to communicate on Laz la..
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Cengal is the darkest from your selection, but there has no texture like walnut. Usually, the greater the texture has, the softer the wood.

Yes, you can walk in but mostly need to order 1st and come again collect when the wood is ready.
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hi sifu, any way to treat powder post beetle... bought a merbau live edge slab previously but the edge keep on bore by beetle, i had tried borax solution but not work. any solution?
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QUOTE(PowerPC @ Jan 10 2022, 11:21 AM)
Cengal is the darkest from your selection, but there has no texture like walnut. Usually, the greater the texture has, the softer the wood.

Yes, you can walk in but mostly need to order 1st and come again collect when the wood is ready.
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Thanks for your reply, yesterday he replied me later at night, recommended Merbau, a bit over my budget 😆😆 later check with him again
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hi sifu, any way to treat powder post beetle... bought a merbau live edge slab previously but the edge keep on bore by beetle, i had tried borax solution but not work. any solution?
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Hi, the "white part" of merbau (usually outer edge, depend on size, can deep as 2 inches diameter) is the softer part, and it will be vanished overtime, it is nothing to stop it. The center part of merbau is hardest, and the boring service will end there. It is nothing much can do about it. Somemore, too much chemical will hurt the slab later.

QUOTE(Angry Clerk @ Jan 10 2022, 01:04 PM)
Thanks for your reply, yesterday he replied me later at night, recommended Merbau, a bit over my budget 😆😆 later check with him again
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I suggest to buy fast if you need 1, because wood price keep increasing !
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TS, do you supply Balau Door frame and Door leafs too?
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Any recommendations for a solid wood table top for standing desk? Measurements around 75cm (w) x 140cm(L) x 1.5cm~1.8cm. Since the standing desk frame has motor that support about 120kg , the wood slab cannot be too heavy.
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Easier just to order from a manufacturer that provides everything.

Can try Balaks (Penang based manufacturer) - they do delivery around Malaysia.]
https://balaks.com.my/product/balaks-meja-neo/



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Any recommendations for a solid wood table top for standing desk?  Measurements around  75cm (w) x 140cm(L) x 1.5cm~1.8cm. Since the standing desk frame has motor that support about 120kg , the wood slab cannot be too heavy.
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Hi Minolta, sorry for overlook your above msg ya, just realised when click to my profile.

Unfortunately we dont supply ready made door frame and leafs, instead, we only supply raw wood plank at the moment. smile.gif

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Easier just to order from a manufacturer that provides everything.

Can try Balaks (Penang based manufacturer) - they do delivery around Malaysia.]
https://balaks.com.my/product/balaks-meja-neo/
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The web look clean and professional. Saw this shop many months ago in FB advertising, look like a subsidiary company from a door frame factory. Their idea is fresh and look promising !
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QUOTE(bigred @ Feb 15 2022, 11:48 AM)
Easier just to order from a manufacturer that provides everything.

Can try Balaks (Penang based manufacturer) - they do delivery around Malaysia.]
https://balaks.com.my/product/balaks-meja-neo/
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Thanks for the reply. This looks nice.
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Hi boss, you are right, the Balau portion is mine, chengal and other species is my cousin biggrin.gif

Long time no hear from you, how are you doing now ?
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wah just realize didnt reply you in dec.. hahah biggrin.gif yea doing many solid wood projects now.
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QUOTE(Balitong @ Feb 15 2022, 12:24 AM)
Any recommendations for a solid wood table top for standing desk?  Measurements around  75cm (w) x 140cm(L) x 1.5cm~1.8cm. Since the standing desk frame has motor that support about 120kg , the wood slab cannot be too heavy.
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just made a few for clients. in the market these stand tables with solid wood too basic choices. either rubber wood panel with stain or some cheap slab wood cut to size.

what we do is something diff , and usually offered by higher end stand desk makers in usa (usually they offer walnut maple etc, usd2k level)

but i try mix local and imported wood.

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QUOTE(ar188 @ Feb 25 2022, 01:00 AM)
just made a few for clients. in the market these stand tables with solid wood too basic choices. either rubber wood panel with stain or some cheap slab wood cut to size.

what we do is something diff , and usually offered by higher end stand desk makers in usa (usually they offer walnut maple etc, usd2k level)

but i try mix local and imported wood.

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What a fantastic product you have there ! nod.gif

There is quite a demand for wood product now a day, you should very busy now on biggrin.gif
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What a fantastic product you have there !  nod.gif

There is quite a demand for wood product now a day, you should very busy now on biggrin.gif
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thanks! same as you i guess, with your online store, sure every day busy arrange orders. biggrin.gif

currently cant go online yet as our custom made items like cabinets or table below.,. output is very long time. maybe 4-6wks laugh.gif

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QUOTE(ar188 @ Feb 25 2022, 12:39 PM)
thanks! same as you i guess, with your online store, sure every day busy arrange orders.  biggrin.gif

currently cant go online yet as our custom made items like cabinets or table below.,. output is very long time. maybe 4-6wks laugh.gif

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The round table made of wood look so much cozy compare to stone made !

Thank you as well, will meet you when covid case getting lower biggrin.gif
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The round table made of wood look so much cozy compare to stone made !

Thank you as well, will meet you when covid case getting lower  biggrin.gif
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sure boss.. put aside some 1x5 planks (natural dry 1year biggrin.gif ).. later u if wanna make 6-7ft rectangle dining table, i can process the top for u...yellow balau is difficult and hard wood.. but finally have enough skill to process it without spending too much time on it. biggrin.gif

something i glue up today. biggrin.gif quite a difficult wood.
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Feb 25 2022, 10:31 PM)
sure boss.. put aside some 1x5 planks (natural dry 1year biggrin.gif ).. later u if wanna make 6-7ft rectangle dining table, i can process the top for u...yellow balau is difficult and hard wood.. but finally have enough skill to process it without spending too much time on it. biggrin.gif

something i glue up today.  biggrin.gif quite a difficult wood.
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You are such a amazing skilled person ! thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(bigred @ Feb 15 2022, 11:48 AM)
Easier just to order from a manufacturer that provides everything.

Can try Balaks (Penang based manufacturer) - they do delivery around Malaysia.]
https://balaks.com.my/product/balaks-meja-neo/
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Got the "Meja" from them, nice finishing and overall satisfied. Wood is from Rubber tree hence a bit soft and easily dented but since I don't really abuse my desk its fine.
Would be nice if more factory do something like this.
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did a gaming walnut table 8.5ft long

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did a gaming walnut table 8.5ft long
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You get your wood from ts? Do ts do delivery in Klang Valley?
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You get your wood from ts? Do ts do delivery in Klang Valley?
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ts doesnt sell american dark walnut.
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Dec 21 2022, 06:41 PM)
ts doesnt sell american dark walnut.
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Thinking to do similar setup but with floating method without stand. Maybe buy from shopee use those rubber wood for budget purpose.
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QUOTE(eddie2020 @ Dec 22 2022, 02:21 AM)
Thinking to do similar setup but with floating method without stand. Maybe buy from shopee use those rubber wood for budget purpose.
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ya thats the cheapest option to get a solid wood top. smile.gif
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Dec 22 2022, 08:17 PM)
ya thats the cheapest option to get a solid wood top. smile.gif
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with depth of 60cm you think which type of bracket should i get? maybe 40/45cm bracket will sufficient?
something like this k type
https://shopee.com.my/ClassAHW-Folding-Wall...4b-b16bb443a22b
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QUOTE(eddie2020 @ Dec 23 2022, 01:51 AM)
with depth of 60cm you think which type of bracket should i get? maybe 40/45cm bracket will sufficient?
something like this k type
https://shopee.com.my/ClassAHW-Folding-Wall...4b-b16bb443a22b
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probably need to trial and error..not sure also
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probably need to trial and error..not sure also
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Normally you buy ready make wood?
I get a few ppl quoted me quite high..
Then I saw some is like without vanishing etc aka ketam.
I guess ketam same as sanding?

If buy this type what should I do? Use the linseed oil then shellac?
Same some meet my dimension requirement and thickness.
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QUOTE(eddie2020 @ Dec 24 2022, 01:28 AM)
Normally you buy ready make wood?
I get a few ppl quoted me quite high..
Then I saw some is like without vanishing etc aka ketam.
I guess ketam same as sanding?

If buy this type what should I do? Use the linseed oil then shellac?
Same some meet my dimension requirement and thickness.
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if u get rubber wood panel. usually no need anything except sanding and then finishing.

i make table tops for ID so i buy raw wood and i process it until it becomes a table top, usually 5-15k range dining tables
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QUOTE(eddie2020 @ Dec 24 2022, 01:28 AM)
Normally you buy ready make wood?
I get a few ppl quoted me quite high..
Then I saw some is like without vanishing etc aka ketam.
I guess ketam same as sanding?

If buy this type what should I do? Use the linseed oil then shellac?
Same some meet my dimension requirement and thickness.
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ketam means planning. Siap ketam usually means S4S, wood ready to cut and join.

Raw wood is hard to work with for most consumers unless you have the tools and tolerate noise/dust.

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QUOTE(ar188 @ Dec 24 2022, 01:46 AM)
if u get rubber wood panel. usually no need anything except sanding and then finishing.

i make table tops for ID so i buy raw wood and i process it until it becomes a table top, usually 5-15k range dining tables
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Do you dry your own wood?

I see market full of "young" tree, not completely dry. Especially those "hard wood" like chengal and balau. will warp or crack shortly after delivery.

Proper kiln dry wood locally tends to be exported.
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Do you dry your own wood?

I see market full of "young" tree, not completely dry. Especially those "hard wood" like chengal and balau. will warp or crack shortly after delivery.

Proper kiln dry wood locally tends to be exported.
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i use mainly imported wood, oak walnut mahagony etc.. so yea.. its already KD before sold. raw means rough sawn timbers.. not just freshly chop from a tree trunk laugh.gif
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Dec 24 2022, 01:46 AM)
if u get rubber wood panel. usually no need anything except sanding and then finishing.

i make table tops for ID so i buy raw wood and i process it until it becomes a table top, usually 5-15k range dining tables
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Mean after ketam use sand paper and finishing? Finishing do you mean apply oil then follow by another coat which similar like shellac?

QUOTE(Minolta @ Dec 24 2022, 08:49 PM)
ketam means planning. Siap ketam usually means S4S, wood ready to cut and join.

Raw wood is hard to work with for most consumers unless you have the tools and tolerate noise/dust.
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Ya.. I saw some price comparison ketam wood its like half of the price from i buy complete finish.. So I not sure the ketam one I need do how much job or worth it or not.. Ketam and sanding is differs rite? Cause I see ketam they use some tools and blade to smooth it instead of sanding
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Mean after ketam use sand paper and finishing? Finishing do you mean apply oil then follow by another coat which similar like shellac?
Ya.. I saw some price comparison ketam wood its like half of the price from i buy complete finish.. So I not sure the ketam one I need do how much job or worth it or not.. Ketam and sanding is differs rite? Cause I see ketam they use some tools and blade to smooth it instead of sanding
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ketam kapit is the right word. thickness planing/thicknesser. it makes the board parallel to each other.
but there is more to it than just putting it into the thicknesser, especially hardwoods. unless you want your glue joints to break apart after a few months or leaving it near the window where the sun hit hardest. basically you gotta learn the properway of milling wood, let it rest, how to get a good glue line rip on the table saw etc, before glueing up boards. do you glue 2 boards at a time or do 6 in one glue up...alot of factors before u see the end result as a proper wooden top.

thats why a lot of hardwood kitchen top suppliers dont do their own processing, probably call a wood flooring factory to prepare the wooden planks and then ask someone to process and glue them up.

anyway long story, many people just buy rubber wood or merbau boards and cut to size. easier that way
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Dec 25 2022, 02:39 PM)
ketam kapit is the right word. thickness planing/thicknesser. it makes the board parallel to each other.
but there is more to it than just putting it into the thicknesser, especially hardwoods.  unless you want your glue joints to break apart after a few months or leaving it near the window where the sun hit hardest. basically you gotta learn the properway of milling wood, let it rest, how to get a good glue line rip on the table saw etc, before glueing up boards. do you glue 2 boards at a time or do 6 in one glue up...alot of factors before u see the end result as a proper wooden top.

thats why a lot of hardwood kitchen top suppliers dont do their own processing, probably call a wood flooring factory to prepare the wooden planks and then ask someone to process and glue them up.

anyway long story, many people just buy rubber wood or merbau boards and cut to size. easier that way
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Ya, i saw ketam board with 2ft 7ft about 2xx. but i not sure how much i need to make it to finish act as my table top. I was thinking sanding it then apply oil then apply shellac. This might cost me another 100 bucks which cost become 300+.
Now i proceed to buy with 1 seller who told me he can do all with vanishing of my color and charge me 5xx.
Earlier thought of DIY but i don't know the right way to save me 200 bucks haha.
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Ya, i saw ketam board with 2ft 7ft about 2xx. but i not sure how much i need to make it to finish act as my table top. I was thinking sanding it then apply oil then apply shellac. This might cost me another 100 bucks which cost become 300+.
Now i proceed to buy with 1 seller who told me he can do all with vanishing of my color and charge me 5xx.
Earlier thought of DIY but i don't know the right way to save me 200 bucks haha.
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yea if you want high end refined finishing, some times it cost quite abit..

if not can just do like how cheapo 2-3k slab people do. spray thick2 lacquer until its smooth but plastiky. biggrin.gif that service rm100 enough.

i did a stand desk project for a client in penang last year.
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Dec 25 2022, 08:13 PM)
yea if you want high end refined finishing, some times it cost quite abit..

if not can just do like how cheapo 2-3k slab people do. spray thick2 lacquer until its smooth but plastiky. biggrin.gif  that service rm100 enough.

i did a stand desk project for a client in penang last year.
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haaha, you do high end item only rite?
you use 3 wood n stick together right from your pic... nice tho..
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haaha, you do high end item only rite?
you use 3 wood n stick together right from your pic... nice tho..
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medium to high end. biggrin.gif but for smaller items, no so exp...maybe 1+k also got..like stand desk.

anyway, there is 13pcs of wood in there.. tongue.gif
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https://shp.ee/zucvdyn

Any alternative for this? The seller told he use this above.. But it seems need professional to use.. I bought some clear coat samurai spray.. It make some of the part more smooth but feel not really good in certain rough area.. The whole top I bought its like 90 percent smooth.. Not sure why certain part don't have coat from this seller.. (I able to see under reflection some area no reflection n abit rough)
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https://shp.ee/zucvdyn

Any alternative for this? The seller told he use this above.. But it seems need professional to use.. I bought some clear coat samurai spray.. It make some of the part more smooth but feel not really good in certain rough area.. The whole top I bought its like 90 percent smooth.. Not sure why certain part don't have coat from this seller.. (I able to see under reflection some area no reflection n abit rough)
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how come you choose this? this brand is professional factory use, but AC coating requires expert to produce nice result.
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how come you choose this? this brand is professional factory use,  but AC coating requires expert to produce nice result.
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The seller told me he use this... I bought some samurai spray lol..
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nak tanya, red balau ngan nyatoh apa beza, which is better option for indoor room doors?

saw on google red balau is "heavy hardwood" and nyatoh is "light hardwood", price-wise are they the same?
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nak tanya, red balau ngan nyatoh apa beza, which is better option for indoor room doors?

saw on google red balau is "heavy hardwood" and nyatoh is "light hardwood", price-wise are they the same?
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i would say nyatoh is medium hardwood unless they get really low grade light weight nyatoh
indoor rooms? medium weight nyatoh would look nicer (if painted white) then no need compare.

 

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