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 PROPERTY MARKET TO BE BADLY HIT IN 2018, Tekan the greedy sellers to the max!

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post Nov 18 2017, 01:54 PM

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Pity those amaturs who gotinto the game at the highest entry prices, example Rm850k for 900sf or Rm830k for 600sf soho studios, the same devloper suddenly sing different tune, from excuses such as rising labur material cost now like magic say can build affordable homes, these victims now stucked with amazing bank installment and worst is market value dow.n Rm200k
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post Nov 18 2017, 02:20 PM

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QUOTE(kyo2020 @ Nov 18 2017, 10:26 AM)
How practical to lower the price since the seller hv no issue to pay thier loan and not willing to let go with low price? Base on current situation, buyer will still need to buy with the inflated price and this could happen in more obvious on later time where demand is absorbing the supply. Afterall, our property price is still not that expensive, compare to wat we earned. Buyer still afford to buy and pay for a decent highrise.
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Keeping vacant unit incur cost e.g bank interest and negative cash flow. Developer is more likely to respond with bigger discount, rebate or cash back; effectively lower the price.

Those subsale vendor with gold and silver mountain backing could hold until inflation catch up. However those stretched vendor may buckle under bank loan repayment.

With only 4% of adults in the kangkong land have over us$100k net worth. Not that many investors have the capacity to hold vacant unit for extended period.

This post has been edited by icemanfx: Nov 18 2017, 02:22 PM
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post Nov 18 2017, 03:08 PM

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I still think property market are still at healthy pace, in fact base on the latest GDP by bank negara its over 5% , which shows market are still liquid.

But if bank negara start gradually tightening their monetary policy base on growing economy, that's where you will need to check the reaction of the seller, and business surrounding.
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post Nov 18 2017, 03:25 PM

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Either BN scrap the pooerty cooling measures eg RPGT or loan 70% LTV, the market ia ddomed...some rules like 10 year DSR calculation added to Refinance cases but denied by FI oso killing e market
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QUOTE(Clement1001 @ Nov 18 2017, 03:08 PM)
I still think property market are still at healthy pace, in fact base on the latest GDP by bank negara its over 5% , which shows market are still liquid.

But if bank negara start gradually tightening their monetary policy base on growing economy, that's where you will need to check the reaction of the seller, and business surrounding.
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Bank Negara's dire warning for the property market.

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post Nov 18 2017, 03:54 PM

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QUOTE(TOMEI-R @ Nov 18 2017, 03:29 PM)
How I see it, is he acknowledge the property market sentiment ( one of the sectors) lag of growth but not in a crucial situation from the hard facts, where others are growing in good direction. And so, so he try to tickle to prevent any meltdown by merely advising the goverment and developers to keep it sustainability.

If bank negara really knows something wrong with the property which will affect the whole economy growth he would have take some action already.

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post Nov 18 2017, 03:57 PM

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post Nov 18 2017, 04:09 PM

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QUOTE(Clement1001 @ Nov 18 2017, 03:54 PM)
How I see it, is he acknowledge the property market sentiment ( one of the sectors) lag of growth but not in a worse situation from the hard facts. But others are growing in good direction. And so, so he try to tickle to prevent any meltdown by merely advising the goverment and developers to keep it sustainability.

If bank negara really knows something wrong with the property which will affect the whole economy growth he would have take some action already.
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Can you elaborate what 'others are growing in the right direction'?
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post Nov 18 2017, 04:11 PM

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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Nov 18 2017, 12:56 PM)
so far I only hear investors sold at near cost or with little profit.....the worst case.

no one sold below purchase price yet..........not that I know of......perhaps ppl that sold below cost tend to keep their little dirty secrets to themselves.

(excluding auction properties).
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No profit is the only possible. If the market is so bad that it goes below owner cost, the "home owner" will probably need to cash for the rainy day instead.

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post Nov 18 2017, 04:12 PM

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QUOTE(TOMEI-R @ Nov 18 2017, 04:09 PM)
Can you elaborate what 'others are growing in the right direction'?
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You can try to Google and read our latest governor public statement on growing Malaysia GDP for more details. He says so, not me.
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QUOTE(Clement1001 @ Nov 18 2017, 04:12 PM)
You can try to Google and read our latest governor public statement on growing Malaysia GDP for more details. He says so, not me.
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Maybe growth on GDP but definately not on the property market.
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Not sure who’s holding but definitely hardly worth holding unless he property we’re bought prior the hype and that they still collecting rents
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post Nov 18 2017, 09:41 PM

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QUOTE(TOMEI-R @ Nov 18 2017, 05:56 PM)
Maybe growth on GDP but definately not on the property market.
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In 2Q 2017, the Malaysian House Price Index increased by 5.6% (1Q 2017: 6.7%), amid a slower growth in both landed and high-rise property prices.
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post Nov 18 2017, 09:46 PM

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QUOTE(brother love @ Nov 18 2017, 01:54 PM)
Pity those amaturs who gotinto the game at the highest entry prices, example Rm850k for 900sf or Rm830k for 600sf soho studios, the same devloper suddenly sing different tune, from excuses such as rising labur material cost now like magic say can build affordable homes, these victims now stucked with amazing bank installment and worst is market value dow.n Rm200k
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Can you share which development?
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post Nov 18 2017, 09:56 PM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Nov 18 2017, 02:20 PM)
Keeping vacant unit incur cost e.g bank interest and negative cash flow. Developer is more likely to respond with bigger discount, rebate or cash back; effectively lower the price.

Those subsale vendor with gold and silver mountain backing could hold until inflation catch up. However those stretched vendor may buckle under bank loan repayment.

With only 4% of adults in the kangkong land have over us$100k net worth. Not that many investors have the capacity to hold vacant unit for extended period.
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Actually invest in prop don't need silver or gold mountain...if u hv vested then may be understand.

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post Nov 18 2017, 10:39 PM

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QUOTE(Skyiz @ Nov 18 2017, 03:57 PM)
as expected, the experts only good at tabulating figures and report the obvious.

why they don't control the supply from the start???????????? AK how many launches tis year already?

brown envelope tok.
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post Nov 18 2017, 10:42 PM

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QUOTE(kyo2020 @ Nov 18 2017, 09:56 PM)
Actually invest in prop don't need silver or gold mountain...if u hv vested then may be understand.
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Stimes she just wanna show us rocket science but in prop 1 just need to du-it to und the beauty of it. On paper any1 can tok kok til moo moo comes home.

Btw most gurus oso tok kok nia. Wateva econ part they r telling u is either the history or assumption. It's not tat hard to cow dung thou.
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post Nov 18 2017, 11:15 PM

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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Nov 18 2017, 12:56 PM)
so far I only hear investors sold at near cost or with little profit.....the worst case.

no one sold below purchase price yet..........not that I know of......perhaps ppl that sold below cost tend to keep their little dirty secrets to themselves.

(excluding auction properties).
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Some property club members have lower entry cost and can dispose at much lower cost probably below list price.


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post Nov 19 2017, 12:00 AM

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QUOTE(limsc07 @ Nov 18 2017, 11:15 PM)
Some property club members have lower entry cost and can dispose at much lower cost probably below list price.
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how much lower is lower?
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post Nov 19 2017, 12:26 AM

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QUOTE(limsc07 @ Nov 18 2017, 11:15 PM)
Some property club members have lower entry cost and can dispose at much lower cost probably below list price.
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QUOTE(propertybuddy @ Nov 19 2017, 12:00 AM)
how much lower is lower?
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Well it depends on project.i got 2 unit joined as bulk purchase get discount 100k for each unit.

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