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 PROPERTY MARKET TO BE BADLY HIT IN 2018, Tekan the greedy sellers to the max!

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post Nov 14 2017, 06:47 PM

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QUOTE(ZZR-Pilot @ Nov 14 2017, 05:35 PM)
PETALING JAYA: The property market will take a terrible hit next year, with developers and house owners facing one of the toughest times to find buyers, says a real estate veteran.

Ernest Cheong said it could lead to a market crash as consumers do not have the financial capacity to own homes with some failing to even pay their monthly instalments.

“The panic (within developers and house owners) might start after Chinese New Year in February or later if the government decides to pump in money to strengthen the market,” he told FMT.

He was responding to a reply given in the Dewan Rakyat by Deputy Finance Minister Lee Chee Leong who said unsold completed residential units rose by 40% to 20,807 units in the first half of 2017 compared with the same period last year.

Lee had said the units were worth RM12.26 billion with condominiums and apartments costing over RM500,000 dominating the unsold homes in Malaysia.

However, Cheong pointed out that the RM12.26 billion is only from the primary market, which includes launches by developers. It does not include the secondary market, which is house owners seeking to sell their homes.

“Previously, house buyers needed to pay 10% as deposit. Today, the situation is different. Developers are in a desperate situation.

“That is why they are allowing buyers to pay 1% of the property price and pay the remainder upon completion,” he said.

Cheong said this “generous payment mode” exists because developers are finding it hard to sell off their new properties.

He said they are in danger of losing their bridging finance from banks if they fail to sell at least 40% of the total units. The bridging finance is used by developers to support their construction.

“This is where the danger starts. I predict if this continues, markets will crash within 24 to 30 months because consumers do not have the financial capacity to buy properties any more.

“Furthermore, developers who started building two years ago are expected to flood the market further with their units.”

He estimated the value of homes waiting to be sold in the secondary market to be around RM4 billion and expected more foreclosures by banks.

“So about RM16 billion of properties are waiting for buyers. But there is no demand. The reason is that people don’t have the money,” he said.

When the property crash comes early next year, Cheong expects the prices of houses to fall from RM500,000 to RM300,000.

He advised Malaysian consumers not to commit to buying a home unless they could save up to RM1,000 a month for at least a year.

“This is to cover for rainy days if they lose their jobs.”

Cheong said findings by the Employees Provident Fund show that 89% of Malaysians earn RM5,000 and below a month.

He said those who bought their homes five years ago are facing hardship as prices of homes were at their peak then.

On average, for every RM100,000 housing loan, a buyer pays the bank RM500 instalment a month, based on a 30-year payment period.

Cheong advised Malaysians to spend cautiously and invest wisely instead of buying any property at the moment.

“There should not be any urgency to buy a property at the moment. Try renting first.”
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No point reading FMT. Differentiate Opinion vs Fact. Base on what they say 500k drop to 300k?

Yes, Developer has been launching a lot more smaller units, high density, 400-500k units. But that doesn’t mean property price dropped.

Yes, it’s much easier to lose money than make in the prop market now. Making money pre 2011/12 era doesn’t make one a good investor. 95% of the property in the market are not investment grade property. Chances of Buying into the wrong one and lose is very common. Buying wrong product at wrong price —> lose money
Buying wrong product at right price —> 50:50 u make or lose
Buying right product at wrong price —> lose money
Buying right product at right price —> make money

FMT always report of property glut. This attracts readership.

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post Nov 14 2017, 06:48 PM

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QUOTE(AskarPerang @ Nov 14 2017, 06:37 PM)
beli 9 hartanah dan hari ini menderita nak beli susu + pampers anak pun tak mampu


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This is why Gameplan is so important. Understanding the risk of doing so, what to buy, How to buy, when to buy, Buying without proper gameplan can be deadly. If he hv the right plan, he probably only need 4 good ones instead of 9 bad ones. 4 would be sufficient to generate him a healthy 20k/mth passive income for retirement. Buying 9 bad one doesn’t make him better investor than someone who plan properly and buy 4 that suits his plan

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post Nov 14 2017, 10:53 PM

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QUOTE(Asali @ Nov 14 2017, 07:38 PM)
thumbup.gif  Very informative.

Another similar updated index by BNM up to Q1 2017 at http://www.housingwatch.my/02_market_01_mhpi.html -> Q2/Q3 will be updated soon.

I liked the statement "95% of the property in the market are not investment grade property". Does it mean only 5% of property investors are making $$$?  biggrin.gif
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my meaning is 95% of the available projects. Probably even lesser. Of 100 proejct only 5 investment grade.

From your POV, it depends how u intepret it.
1. If all investor buy that 5%, chances of making money is higher.
2. If all investor, buy the rest of it, lower likeliness of making money
3. If some bought the 5%, some bought the rest, then, those who bought the investment grade ones hv a higher likelihood of making money / making more money lo
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post Nov 15 2017, 08:29 PM

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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Nov 14 2017, 11:22 PM)
Even got 5% investable properties....how many of 5% can we afford to buy to invest?
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how many depends on everyone affordability, investment goal, gameplan. Don’t nid to all in for the 5%. Pick those that suits your plan. No need to follow what ppl buy. What they get may not suit u or me too

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post Nov 19 2017, 12:00 AM

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QUOTE(limsc07 @ Nov 18 2017, 11:15 PM)
Some property club members have lower entry cost and can dispose at much lower cost probably below list price.
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how much lower is lower?
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post Nov 21 2017, 12:53 AM

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QUOTE(LYNshop @ Nov 20 2017, 11:56 PM)
If its to invest and earn quick bucks during vp, better to get those outside KL.
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what’s the justifications?

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post Nov 22 2017, 10:46 PM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Nov 21 2017, 03:10 PM)
Finance Minister II Johari Abdul Ghani said there was no "U-turn" in cabinet's decision to freeze new high-end property development in Kuala Lumpur.

"All projects that have received approvals can proceed. This freeze is only for new shopping malls, offices and high-rise residential units priced above RM1 million.

"There is no U-turn," Johari told Malaysiakini.

He was responding to several news reports which quoted Works Minister Fadillah Yusof claiming that despite the freeze, there will be some leeway for some high-end projects on a case-by-case basis.

Both the NST and The Edge Markets quoted Fadillah saying that "this is not a blanket stop order"...

Read more at https://www.malaysiakini.com/news/402728#FCVP1dl81TyQI5rp.99

U-turn or no U-turn, fake news or not, over supply and poor demand remain unchanged, what difference does it make?
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Shopping malls - in some area, we have more than enough malls. Example, PJ area - paradigm, giant, starling, atria, tropicana, glo damansara, 1utama, empire city, tropicana gardens, citta, evolve. freeze for mall development - no impact.
if fact some area that doesnt have mall and should have mall would be impacted more.

high rise 1mil residential development - while 83% of unsold undercon are from price above RM250,000. freezing or ban >1mil development doesnt have much impact. however in certains areas it would have positive impacts due to the freezing of >1mil dev. it will reduce the supply. areas with high rise transacting average 1mil and above will be more positively affected by the ban.

QUOTE(FuNks @ Nov 22 2017, 12:00 PM)
woiii dont like that Sifu, Serene heights ok to play or not?   hmm.gif
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what about Serene heights u like? rental? capital?

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post Nov 24 2017, 02:23 PM

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QUOTE(kurtkob78 @ Nov 23 2017, 08:26 PM)
impact on the ban?
1. For area with plenty of shopping malls - no impact having one lesser Mall

2. For area which suppose to have mall but still don’t have mall - yes impacted

3. Majority (83%) of the unsold high rise are from 250,000 onwards but the ban applies new high rise >1mil onwards. “Applying medicine to wrong patient.”

4. How many areas with high rise development transact 1Mil onwards? The ban dont seem to be targeting the right price category.

5. With the ban imposed, certain areas which average transaction above 1Mil are positively impacted due to lesser supply.

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