except for the pip-boy clicking sound + cartoon, no remark from the fallout universe found ..

fallout has the best old songs ever.

Fallout 3 is Oblivion with guns. Even the developer admits it.

i wish they completed van buren...

I still think the teddy bear decapitation is ridiculous...

If a teddy bear is launched at a high velocity, the drag will rip it apart completely before it even reaches the opponent since its not a solid material. Secondly, a teddy bear is not sharp, so how the hell is it going to decapitate an opponent? Why not just retain the old gauss rifle?

Hypothetically, it might cause a few damage if the opponent targeted is adjacent to the player character but not more than that.

I also hope Bethesda rectifies the squatting AI issue...

we must admit that bathesda's not good with satirical jokes .. ah,my fallout

hey, have you check out the new project by some russian team .. the called it Fallout Online or something like that. looks good, brings back old memories

I don't see any blood. Just a chop off body and some disintegrated upper body parts.

The faces are not very well drawn especially of nuclear degenerated beings. Lets hope its not widespread incest all over Fallout world. I mean the voice acting part, seriously.

its the hero of kvatch !!

y i didn`t see any deathclaw??? i miss those guys

of course they will include deathclaws

Shoot a person's head and it'll blow the legs off too. Nice immersion.

Teddy bears killing people. Nice immersion.

People moving around like stick figures. Nice immersion.

Ghouls looking like resident evil zombies. Nice fallout continuity.

Seriously, is this still fallout? Or is it a fallout-mod for Oblivion? I don't trust game reviews anymore after reading the amount of hype F3 has generated.

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Added on July 21, 2008, 10:47 amContinuity? You serious? Slapping a fallout and a 3 to an oblivion mod isn't gonna make it continue the fallout saga. What continuity? It's the east coast, with zero connection to the west coast so that beth could just whip up some half baked storyline (looking for dad. star wars?) with uninformed plot settings. Enclave in the east coast? Chinese soldiers? BOS expanding eastwards?

F3 is a piece of crap confirmed by the E3 releases.

This post has been edited by soggie: Jul 21 2008, 10:47 AM

The 'Shoot a person's head and it'll blow the legs off too' is because he has the bloody mess perk. If you played the previous Fallout games you would know what it does.

Teddy bear. Its funny. Nuff'zed. The statement you made, made it sound as if comedy has no part at all in a Fallout universe. Ironic, since that is what made the previous Fallout games good as well.

Animation and zombies. Have nothing to add to this. It looked ok to me. Then again, this is not the finalised build. There could be changes.

Storyline continuity? I mean seriously? Did you even play Fallout 1 and 2? Do they even connect? Are you playing the same hero???

I'm all for discussion but please check out your facts before you type them. If you have problems with the E3 demo, fine. But don't let that cloud your judgement on the facts of the game itself.

i agree that you all should try the game for yourself 1st and not depend on review 100%
To be frank, every gamers taste is defferent. You might not like it, but others might not think same as u.
On my opinion, nowadays game review seem overly wriiten to attract ppl to their website.
JUDGE FOR YOURSELF! DON'T LET PPL JUDGE FOR U

did u actually read what i responded to? i knew there was no continuity and i'm cool with that.

and sheesh man what's up with all the furious tirade? they might have changed the whole gameplay, but no one has played it yet and nobody knows how the storyline would play out.

if u don't like change then fine. just don't expect everyone to feel the same way.

Apart from the FAT MAN!!, Decapitating Teddy Bear and revised Enclave Power Armor, I think F3 will be great

Hope someone makes a mod for the old bad ass Enclave Power Armor...maybe a mod that brings Myron back cos I need my JET

Color map mod for the pip boy anyone? or maybe a fusion cell powered car? Brothels to get laid? hahahaha

sigh ..

i hope someday, people will miss isometric-view games

Judging from the graphics + bethesda past experience, must need a killer rig to run the game smoothly. I hope its not like crysis lo.

judging from the looks and bethesda past "experience", i think this is going to be a hit in console gaming

Aint that a Gecko? LOLz

Unfortunately, bloody mess doesn't work that way. Ever used a gauss rifle to blow a human up? The head and half of the torso gets blown off. That's nice. That's believable. Shoot a leg and blow the hips off. Nice too, that's believable. Shoot the belly and tear the whole body in half. Nice too. Zip the body with minigun from groin to head and have it split apart. Again, nice too.

Now how in hell do you shoot a head and have the legs blow clean off on the knee? Bloody mess? More like bloody rubbish physics. Over the top gore doesn't mean you get to do it like a 3 year old.

Now about zombies - they're ghouls. Compare Harold to the bartender. See any difference? The bartender looks like something from resident evil while Harold looks like he came from the Tales from the Crypt. With a tree that grows from his head, of course. THAT's the difference.

Storyline continuity? Yes, F1 and F2 DO connect. You're the vault dweller's descendant, my friend. And you get to meet Tandi. And get to visit Vault 13 again. And the military base. They do connect, you know? Well, BOS seems to be a little more friendly now in F2, but at least you can see the spill-over effects of what happened in F1 in F2. Ever been to Broken Hills?

I did checked my facts. No wait, I didn't. I've played F1 and F2 so many times that those 'facts' have permanently seared my brains.

EDIT: Removed potential flame baits to keep this discussion healthy.

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Added on July 22, 2008, 9:37 amNeh, you don't need Myron for Jet. Just go sniff some brahmin dung. Raw.

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Added on July 22, 2008, 9:42 amTry? Maybe. Judging from the gameplay footage, with the horrible animations, teddy-bear death guns, and braindead Africans in Mad Max armor, I've pretty much got my answer. I'll 100% support piracy when it comes to Fallout 3.

And the reviews? Well, reading F3 reviews kind of gave me the idea that game journalists have a serious issue with taste nowadays. GORE!!!! OMFG That's the game of the year! Oh you can kill anybody? Game of the year! Teddy bear gun? Game of the year! OMFG it's built with Oblivion's engine with the horrible animation? Game of the year! OMFG the great graphics! The wasteland! Game of the year!

Although the wasteland did look breath-takingly beautiful. That's perhaps the only thing I like about Oblivion: Fallout.

This post has been edited by soggie: Jul 22 2008, 09:42 AM