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Quazacolt
post Apr 17 2007, 12:02 PM

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QUOTE(Gladys @ Apr 17 2007, 12:00 PM)
need short n simple tips for aran.....  i want prince >"<

btw last nite heard from my fren, their guild down curator @ 1st evo blink.gif
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post Apr 17 2007, 12:21 PM

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QUOTE(Gladys @ Apr 17 2007, 12:00 PM)
need short n simple tips for aran.....  i want prince >"<

btw last nite heard from my fren, their guild down curator @ 1st evo blink.gif
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if you cleared up to chess after curator it's advisable to just do a few attempts at prince. once respawn sets in just do aran if you want. aran is harder than prince btw.

tips for aran:

know what to do for each of his abilities.
flame wreathe = don't move
arcane explosion = run out asap
blizzard = look where he does a single frostbolt before his blizzard and run to the opposite side and then follow on the edge of the blizzard.

other than that kick/pummel his frostbolt and fireball. do not interrupt his arcane missiles or he would run around and that could screw up healers etc if he gets near and gets silenced.

healers need to heal people who are getting arcane missiles fast coz its the main source of death, just assist aran whenever he starts casting it.

at 40% he will summon 4 water elemental adds. banish/fear them and keep dps'ing aran. if aran's mana gets low he will aoe sheep and pyro for 7.5k. just heal up afterwards and go on as usual
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post Apr 17 2007, 01:11 PM

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but if we no kill aran 1st... enuf time to go for prince? prince is so hard to heal.. as we still consider undergered.. unless the heal los wall bug is successful ?

2 hrs by the time finish chest event already like half an hour more left..

pyro 7.5k >"< mean those low health GG mooncloth sets got to drink titan ?
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post Apr 17 2007, 01:22 PM

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QUOTE(saingau @ Apr 17 2007, 11:28 AM)
Yeap, any warrior can disarm him. If that warr has some talents in imp disarm (prot tree), the duration of disarm is longer.

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post Apr 17 2007, 01:27 PM

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QUOTE(Gladys @ Apr 17 2007, 01:11 PM)
but if we no kill aran 1st... enuf time to go for prince? prince is so hard to heal.. as we still consider undergered.. unless the heal los wall bug is successful ?

2 hrs by the time finish chest event already like half an hour more left..

pyro 7.5k  >"<  mean those low health GG mooncloth sets got to drink titan ?
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you can still use the exploit for prince

and for aran... get out of los you wont get the polymorph/pyro


you should go for prince first, prince fight is a lot easier than aran
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post Apr 17 2007, 01:32 PM

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QUOTE(Gladys @ Apr 17 2007, 01:11 PM)
but if we no kill aran 1st... enuf time to go for prince? prince is so hard to heal.. as we still consider undergered.. unless the heal los wall bug is successful ?

2 hrs by the time finish chest event already like half an hour more left..

pyro 7.5k  >"<  mean those low health GG mooncloth sets got to drink titan ?
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My casual guild is a bit undergeared and me being the world's most unlucky and undergeared main tank. However we managed to take down the prince before taking down aran.

You definitely need to be quicker in taking down the trash mobs linked to Aran and before the Prince although admittedly i tend to pull quickly, as long as healers have mana (doesn't have to be full) - I'm on the next pull already.

I've always hated the LOS wall bug as it's too luck dependant. Infernal between caster group and tank? GG. We only learned to do the encounter properly recently by using the whole area to kill him. It's a bit like the last boss in AQ20 where the dps has to move and the tank has to move to a better spot.

Also, greater stoneshield pots are your tank's best friend if you're undergeared.

Edit: They're changing the encounter so that the doors close when you engage the prince in the next patch so you'll have to learn to do it properly.


This post has been edited by Kidicarus: Apr 17 2007, 01:33 PM
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post Apr 17 2007, 01:39 PM

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QUOTE(wikzs @ Apr 17 2007, 12:21 PM)
if you cleared up to chess after curator it's advisable to just do a few attempts at prince. once respawn sets in just do aran if you want. aran is harder than prince btw.

tips for aran:

know what to do for each of his abilities.
flame wreathe  = don't move
arcane explosion = run out asap
blizzard = look where he does a single frostbolt before his blizzard and run to the opposite side and then follow on the edge of the blizzard.

other than that kick/pummel his frostbolt and fireball. do not interrupt his arcane missiles or he would run around and that could screw up healers etc if he gets near and gets silenced.

healers need to heal people who are getting arcane missiles fast coz its the main source of death, just assist aran whenever he starts casting it.

at 40% he will summon 4 water elemental adds. banish/fear them and keep dps'ing aran. if aran's mana gets low he will aoe sheep and pyro for 7.5k. just heal up afterwards and go on as usual
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haha GG wik gg! ARAN suck
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post Apr 17 2007, 01:41 PM

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i no do AQ 20 b4 so no idea wat ya talking.. just 60 not long b4 tbc come out.

next patch bug fix???????????????????????????????????????? T_T doesnst matter, havn see the prince face b4.. doh.gif

now gotta think a way to convince my rl abt prince>aran... light justice brows.gif anyway the issue is the mob only.. take long time to clear n if we fail got to clear again sad.gif

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post Apr 17 2007, 01:51 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Apr 17 2007, 11:55 AM)
seriously though, melees WILL take shadow cleaves even when ur on his ass (coming from a rogue kek, we do et from behind)

its just shadow cleave, have the rogues to evasion/clos
Yeap, that used to happen, but all cleaves have been fixed in the latest patch (according to the notes). I cant confirm ingame since I'm range smile.gif

QUOTE(Kidicarus @ Apr 17 2007, 01:22 PM)
The improved disarm talent is a joke and therefore any warrior who takes it is a joke.
Agreed, but its an option thats available! smile.gif Cheers mate!


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post Apr 17 2007, 02:18 PM

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QUOTE(Gladys @ Apr 17 2007, 01:41 PM)
i no do AQ 20 b4 so no idea wat ya talking.. just 60 not long b4 tbc come out. 

next patch bug fix???????????????????????????????????????? T_T  doesnst matter, havn see the prince face b4..  doh.gif

now gotta think a way to convince my rl abt prince>aran... light justice brows.gif  anyway the issue is the mob only.. take long time to clear n if we fail got to clear again sad.gif
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post Apr 17 2007, 02:58 PM

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QUOTE(plaz @ Apr 17 2007, 01:39 PM)
haha GG wik gg! ARAN suck
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hey, being able to put it on paper doesn't really mean we can implement it flawlessly tongue.gif

clearing to prince sucks, but at least try him whenever you cleared up to chess since it is only 3 pulls to prince so don't miss the chance to have a few attempts.
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post Apr 17 2007, 03:10 PM

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QUOTE(wikzs @ Apr 17 2007, 02:58 PM)
hey, being able to put it on paper doesn't really mean we can implement it flawlessly tongue.gif

clearing to prince sucks, but at least try him whenever you cleared up to chess since it is only 3 pulls to prince so don't miss the chance to have a few attempts.
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Aye and soulstones, divine intervention and reincarnation all help to give you additional tries.

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post Apr 17 2007, 09:37 PM

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kill aran for free port! lol. unless u plan to clr kara in one day killin aran first is alwaz the way to go. And ironshield pots are easier to make than greater stoneshield.
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post Apr 18 2007, 10:07 AM

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For healers having trouble with Aran, use the Focus Macro. Makes life much much much esier.

eg..once u see aran start to channel his AM, your healers just spam the focus macro. Im MH for the raid, and i find Aran less stressful then Curator/opera

TBC has a new function called focus. This allows you to set a particular target (hostile or non-hostile) to be your "focus", allowing you to reference back to your focus at any time.

For example, if i set Aran as my focus, i can use macros like /target focus, and it will automatically target Aran.

Certain UI frame addons (like x-perl) will also show display a separate unit frame for your focus target, allowing u to monitor the focus' health, mana and spellcast bar.

Simple tutorial on using focus
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Setting your focus

Press Escape. Under Key Bindings -> targetting functions, you will find two options near the bottom of the section. They are "focus target" and "target focus".

Bind a key to "focus target". From now on, anytime u choose a target and press the key, that target becomes your focus

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Using your focus

I hope you know how to create a macro....

Let's say I want to heal my focus target, who happens to be the MT.
First, i must set the MT as my focus.
Then i create the following macro:
/target focus
/cast Greater Heal(Rank 8)



If I want to heal my focus' target (e.g. Aran is my focus and he's blasting Eliv with arcane missiles)
First, I set Aran as my focus
Then macro:
/target focustarget
/cast Flash Heal

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Where is this useful?

Bosses which randomly target ppl that require quick healer reaction (Aran, Dorothee, Julianne, BBW)
Fights where you are targetting someone but need to keep constant cc on another mob (Moroes shackle, succubus seduce, polymorph)


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post Apr 18 2007, 10:28 AM

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QUOTE(jwrx @ Apr 18 2007, 10:07 AM)
For healers having trouble with Aran, use the Focus Macro. Makes life much much much esier.

eg..once u see aran start to channel his AM, your healers just spam the focus macro. Im MH for the raid, and i find Aran less stressful then Curator/opera

TBC has a new function called focus. This allows you to set a particular target (hostile or non-hostile) to be your "focus", allowing you to reference back to your focus at any time.

For example, if i set Aran as my focus, i can use macros like /target focus, and it will automatically target Aran.

Certain UI frame addons (like x-perl) will also show display a separate unit frame for your focus target, allowing u to monitor the focus' health, mana and spellcast bar.

Simple tutorial on using focus
-----------------
Setting your focus

Press Escape. Under Key Bindings -> targetting functions, you will find two options near the bottom of the section. They are "focus target" and "target focus".

Bind a key to "focus target". From now on, anytime u choose a target and press the key, that target becomes your focus

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Using your focus

I hope you know how to create a macro....

Let's say I want to heal my focus target, who happens to be the MT.
First, i must set the MT as my focus.
Then i create the following macro:
/target focus
/cast Greater Heal(Rank 8)
If I want to heal my focus' target (e.g. Aran is my focus and he's blasting Eliv with arcane missiles)
First, I set Aran as my focus
Then macro:
/target focustarget
/cast Flash Heal

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Where is this useful?

Bosses which randomly target ppl that require quick healer reaction (Aran, Dorothee, Julianne, BBW)
Fights where you are targetting someone but need to keep constant cc on another mob (Moroes shackle, succubus seduce, polymorph)
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would be nice when we have this back in the days on vael/broodlord without KTM... good info btw
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post Apr 18 2007, 03:01 PM

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QUOTE(Kurei @ Apr 17 2007, 09:37 PM)
kill aran for free port! lol. unless u plan to clr kara in one day killin aran first is alwaz the way to go. And ironshield pots are easier to make than greater stoneshield.
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Ancient lichenx2+primal earth vs 3 stonescale oil + thorium ore

Well, my priest isn't at the level where i can solo a lowbie instance for the lichen so it's back to fishing for me.. besides need oils for titans..

I the thing about kara that i like is you can choose the boss you want to go for first
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post Apr 18 2007, 05:45 PM

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i like any dungeon without having to clear the amount of trash similar to trash after broodlord in bwl.
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post Apr 18 2007, 06:10 PM

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QUOTE(Bogardan @ Apr 18 2007, 05:45 PM)
i like any dungeon without having to clear the amount of trash similar to trash after broodlord in bwl.
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lol QFT


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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Apr 18 2007, 06:10 PM)
lol QFT
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oh and before broodlord lawl... i r roag QQ

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Moroes :

1. How long are your typical fights guys?

2. If the garrote get onto a player that doesn't have stoneform, pally's bubble, mage iceblock or pally cannot cast bubble, how then? Looks like massive healing. I heard some groups just let the wipe happen when the non-plate healers gets it and that they rather run back to try again. Does Ironshield help in this situation or will it always be 1K damage ever 3 sec?




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