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post Apr 27 2007, 09:50 AM

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QUOTE(myremi @ Apr 27 2007, 09:28 AM)
Moroes fight :

How to make sure the shackle doesn't break from mobs inherent resistance? No one is hitting it but the shackle from our Holy Priest has a tendency to break. She's shackling the warrior where he usually shield bashes the priest. Ending up with a longer time to whack for him to finish bashing her. Sigh.
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make sure your priests have thier shackle target set as thier "Focus" and ensure they reshackle every 5-8 second

also, sometimes its not them breaking, but another add dispeling the shackle

get all casters/healers to stand togther, have hunter set ice trap infront of that group...so if a ad breaks free..hits the trap. Get mage to stand in front and be on the ball...add breaks free....quickly frost nova and the whole caster group moves back, hunter resets trap in front of mob

another way...get the pally to fear the add..when it breaks free..will go back to pally...got plate so can tank him a while and refear
Kara is all about all 10 raiders PAYING attention
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post Apr 27 2007, 09:59 AM

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soz.... i dun find aran is hard yet we just cant down it...... all the bossess we got 1 shot till aran we got 2 time respawn wiped fes .. soz...

i want prince T_T
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post Apr 27 2007, 10:09 AM

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QUOTE(jwrx @ Apr 27 2007, 09:50 AM)
make sure your priests have thier shackle target set as thier "Focus" and ensure they reshackle every 5-8 second

also, sometimes its not them breaking, but another add dispeling the shackle

get all casters/healers to stand togther, have hunter set ice trap infront of that group...so if a ad breaks free..hits the trap. Get mage to stand in front and be on the ball...add breaks free....quickly frost nova and the whole caster group moves back, hunter resets trap in front of mob

another way...get the pally to fear the add..when it breaks free..will go back to pally...got plate so can tank him a while and refear
Kara is all about all 10 raiders PAYING attention
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good post!

and as said above, the add dispeling (cleansing) is the holy paladin... lady something. she will be wearing in cloth, but make no mistake, its a pally. and she will also occassionaly greater blessing everyone, so make sure you dispel/purge/spellsteal etc on all 4 adds/moroes. (she does it the moment the fight starts too)
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QUOTE(Gladys @ Apr 27 2007, 09:59 AM)
soz.... i dun find aran is hard yet we just cant down it......  all the bossess we got 1 shot till aran we got 2 time respawn wiped fes .. soz...

i want prince T_T
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lol Gladys, indeed Aran is not hard but it's hard for u to get that 10 person to concentrate fully without silly mistakes. Normally wipe happens on flame wrath tho...notthing else.
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post Apr 27 2007, 10:36 AM

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Thanks guys. Hmm... we had no pallies, 1 hunter, 1 holy priest, 1 shadow priest. So looks like have to stand near the hunter where the 2nd ice-trap will be.

We had both the holy pally, holy priest and ret pally. Plus one of the warriors.

We cleared all 4 adds twice. It was the garrote that got us in the end. 1/2 of us were new to the fight. The other half had down him down to 4K HP but there was a pally present as well as holy priest + shadow priest + hunter (loads of CC). Last nite's run, the lowest we got Moroes down to was 40% HP.
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QUOTE(myremi @ Apr 27 2007, 10:36 AM)
Thanks guys. Hmm... we had no pallies, 1 hunter, 1 holy priest, 1 shadow priest. So looks like have to stand near the hunter where the 2nd ice-trap will be.

We had both the holy pally, holy priest and ret pally. Plus one of the warriors.

We cleared all 4 adds twice. It was the garrote that got us in the end. 1/2 of us were new to the fight. The other half had down him down to 4K HP but there was a pally present as well as holy priest + shadow priest + hunter (loads of CC). Last nite's run, the lowest we got Moroes down to was 40% HP.
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That's your problem right there. You don't need to kill all 4 adds. If you only take down 2 adds and keep the remaining 2 adds shackled, that's more than enough dps for the last 40%.
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QUOTE(myremi @ Apr 27 2007, 10:36 AM)
Thanks guys. Hmm... we had no pallies, 1 hunter, 1 holy priest, 1 shadow priest. So looks like have to stand near the hunter where the 2nd ice-trap will be.

We had both the holy pally, holy priest and ret pally. Plus one of the warriors.

We cleared all 4 adds twice. It was the garrote that got us in the end. 1/2 of us were new to the fight. The other half had down him down to 4K HP but there was a pally present as well as holy priest + shadow priest + hunter (loads of CC). Last nite's run, the lowest we got Moroes down to was 40% HP.
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clarify a little on ur post, to my understanding, if you kill all 4 add, ur most likely to wipe from intense garrote healing (even BOP cant help you much as you'll only bop 1-2 times max per moroes fight)
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post Apr 27 2007, 10:53 AM

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shackle on 2, kill 2, and kill moroes -> ten back to the 2...

its easier this way....the easiest way is 4 shackle....(4 priest but lame) hahahaha....

get a shadow priest on a shackle and a holy priest on another shackle willdo..
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stoneform helps too if you have any dwarfs
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post Apr 27 2007, 11:03 AM

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QUOTE(Addict @ Apr 27 2007, 10:30 AM)
lol Gladys, indeed Aran is not hard but it's hard for u to get that 10 person to concentrate fully without silly mistakes. Normally wipe happens on flame wrath tho...notthing else.
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i dono......
i really dono what the F is happening..

2 week wiped fes seem ridiculas to me yet i cant find the "reason" just like any other boss i can point the problem out...

grrrrrrrrr i want prince..




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mimi , 2 shacle mob kill after moroes die.
1 adds > moroes > hunter's cc > priest cc.

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if only 1 priest shackle n keep raid up kinda GG.. unless he is real geared with mp5..or flask of mightly restoration doh.gif
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QUOTE(Gladys @ Apr 27 2007, 11:03 AM)
i dono......
i really dono what the F is happening..

2 week wiped fes seem ridiculas to me yet i cant find the "reason" just like any other boss i can point the problem out...

grrrrrrrrr i want prince..
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mimi , 2 shacle  mob kill after moroes die.
1 adds > moroes > hunter's cc > priest cc.

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  if only 1 priest shackle n keep raid up kinda GG.. unless he is real geared with mp5..or flask of mightly restoration doh.gif
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my raid killed moroes a few times w/o priests... what to do? no priest during that time lol...

we killed 3 adds hunter trap one... do et. if not no lewts lol

but 4 adds.... shakehead.gif shakehead.gif shakehead.gif

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jwrx : spot on on 10 people working together. we do notice it does take awhile for the members to get used to doing 10-man.

kidi : ah. then i'm assuming that the last 2 adds that are to be kept shackled at all times would be at least one warrior and one more whoever it is that is left there (presumably the holy priest or holy pally)? with the adds spawn, is it possible to get 2 priest + 2 pally or is it a mix of priest + pally + warrior combo at all times?

qua : yep. guess so. sad.gif but no pally with us that night (he log on late). unless i put out my max regrowth, that may help a bit. but only for a short while.

xiao : only dwarf was the OT. sad.gif and he almost never got garroted.

gladys : wanna share your fight strategies or fight scenarios? tongue.gif Think the guys also cannot help you if you don't describe how the fight goes on.
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ya lo gladys hahaha...normally u wipe at what %?

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QUOTE(myremi @ Apr 27 2007, 11:13 AM)
kidi : ah. then i'm assuming that the last 2 adds that are to be kept shackled at all times would be at least one warrior and one more whoever it is that is left there (presumably the holy priest or holy pally)? with the adds spawn, is it possible to get 2 priest + 2 pally or is it a mix of priest + pally + warrior combo at all times?

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It's totally random and any combo is possible.

Regarding garrotes - lots of things can happen as to who gets it. Pallies can divine shield and blessing of protection (save it for your healers). If the tank gets it - np he's being healed anyway. Mages can iceblock. If a caster is low on mana, might be a good idea to just let him die and combat res/use soulstone. It's yet another dps race because you only get so many tries before he garrotes the whole raid. That's why it's important to shift focus from the adds asap.
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Apr 27 2007, 11:10 AM)
my raid killed moroes a few times w/o priests... what to do? no priest during that time lol...

we killed 3 adds hunter trap one... do et. if not no lewts lol

but 4 adds....  shakehead.gif  shakehead.gif  shakehead.gif
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priest to shackle + heal.
hunter to trap + dps
no big different , anyhow also a CC n a healer there.


unless u gonna tell me no healer hunter trap n bandage pot . i'll lolololol till forgot the pain of aran wiped.



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mimi.. im not as good as others here,but from my understanding, it's a hard time ur raid givng to the holy priest, bcoz shackle needed to reshack every 5-8 sec n he need to heal as well as the shadow priest. unless u're damm geared or damm rich. either way to works.. icon_rolleyes.gif

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QUOTE(Addict @ Apr 27 2007, 11:17 AM)
ya lo gladys hahaha...normally u wipe at what %?
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ya wat lo...
27% -30% ...
if u want me to say... our rogue is GG enuf, WTB more kick n more CS.
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QUOTE(Gladys @ Apr 27 2007, 11:50 AM)
ya wat lo...
27% -30% ...
if u want me to say... our rogue is GG enuf,  WTB more kick n more CS.
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i ya lo to mimi tongue.gif...erm lose to the elementals part?
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post Apr 27 2007, 12:05 PM

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elemental part is fine.. banish ? fear ? rogue can do proper kick @ fire bolt is crazy pain.. unless u got a shammy to give u fire resist...

no luck imo.... 1 of the attemp we down to 23% poly n elemental at the same time , 1 fire bolt hit me up n continue argo him hp down to 100+, flame come out next second while i didnt notice it n i casting heal n i GG go "jump" to cancel cast instead of hitting "esc" n it's too late.. wiped the raid soz... how dumb me..
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QUOTE(Gladys @ Apr 27 2007, 11:50 AM)
ya wat lo...
27% -30% ...
if u want me to say... our rogue is GG enuf,  WTB more kick n more CS.
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just tell ur hunter stack frost resist gear and tank all the adds doh.gif thats how we 1st down it last time lol

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QUOTE(Gladys @ Apr 27 2007, 12:05 PM)
elemental part is fine.. banish ? fear ? rogue can do proper kick @ fire bolt is crazy pain.. unless u got a shammy to give u fire resist...

no luck imo.... 1 of the attemp we down to 23% poly n elemental at the same time , 1 fire bolt hit me up n continue argo him hp down to 100+, flame come out next second while i didnt notice it n i casting heal n i GG go "jump" to cancel cast instead of hitting "esc" n it's too late.. wiped the raid soz... how dumb me..
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then it's your rogue/warrior problem la adui =.=
just assign them what spells to interupt then can liao


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QUOTE(Gladys @ Apr 27 2007, 09:59 AM)
soz.... i dun find aran is hard yet we just cant down it......  all the bossess we got 1 shot till aran we got 2 time respawn wiped fes .. soz...

i want prince T_T
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http://objection.mrdictionary.net/go.php?n=1896965

Sorry sad.gif

But I've been wanting to do this all morning! biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Gladys @ Apr 27 2007, 11:50 AM)
priest to shackle + heal.
hunter to trap + dps
no big different , anyhow also a CC n a healer there.
unless u gonna tell me no healer hunter trap n bandage pot . i'll lolololol till forgot the pain of aran wiped.
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mimi.. im not as good as others here,but from my understanding, it's a hard time ur raid givng to the holy priest, bcoz shackle needed to reshack every 5-8 sec n he need to heal as well as the shadow priest.  unless u're damm geared or damm rich. either way to works..   icon_rolleyes.gif

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ya wat lo...
27% -30% ...
if u want me to say... our rogue is GG enuf,  WTB more kick n more CS.
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aiya no healer how to do, 5 seconds into fight i think tank die already lol.

i meant no priest, aka no shackles.

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QUOTE(Kidicarus @ Apr 27 2007, 12:26 PM)
http://objection.mrdictionary.net/go.php?n=1896965

Sorry  sad.gif

But I've been wanting to do this all morning! biggrin.gif
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