Looking for some answers so thought I'd post here to check.

For Attumen the Huntsman, there seems to be 2 strategy on most sites. Which one would be the easiest to follow if wearing non-heroic gear?

1. When Midnight is 30%, DPS Attumen. Longer tanking on Midnite but when he mounts up, his health is lower so cleaving is less.

2. Just DPS Midnite only. Attumen is tank to one side. However, longer session to take down Attumen so cleaving will happen more often.

Also, for the AOE curse that Attumen casts, does he cast it while mounted or only when he's standing?

Quazacolt : DOH. Yep, only cause I couldn't sleep not knowing what we did wrong and knowing that I'd probably get an answer from you. Was thinking of logging onto other servers to ask other ppl but wasn't sure if they were up that late or that they welcome me bothering them. Now thinking twice.

radiounit : Thanks. How much usually does Attunmen has when he mounts up his horse?

saingau : Thx for the tip. Actually, with Wowwiki.com, it speaks about strat #1 as well as strat #2 so that's the bit that got confusing. Coupled with the fact that in WoW Raids and Dungeons forum, a lot of posts were suggesting to use strat #1. From what I gathered from the raid leaders anyway. But looking at youtube movies on the fight, most ppl use strat#2 instead.

Anyway, it was our first run last nite (with no priests either ><) and we got him down to about 5% when we wiped. The fight was taking too long on strat #1 so healers and mages (12K-13K mana) OOM very fast.

Q :

This post has been edited by myremi: Apr 17 2007, 08:51 AM

someone sure is kidder. before fight, healing pot, int buff, GotW. during fight, innervate, demonic rune, mana pot, innervate from another druid, tree form.

mages potting, before and during fights.

Yeah, true although it's massive forum digging. Their Raid content section looks like it's for loot tables only. I haven't been there in awhile because I got tired of reading up info that was outdated (i.e. BC beta).

xiaosin : went oom because DPS too spread out I think when we switch targets. also, think it was from healing other raid members other than the tank who were taking damage. It wasn't the random charge but something else, some were just an AOE damage? in WoWwiki.com, it's mentioned that Midnite will sometimes bucked.

although, can't wait for the patch to come out now. Pots and flasks are starting to look cheaper and I do mean seriously damn cheap. http://worldofraids.free.fr/2.1.0/BT/potions-vendor.jpg

hopefully, there's no limit of the amount of potions and pots that one can buy. although the Sarge's Bullet is hilarious : more pew pew, less QQ.

Thanks saingau. Yeah, it's just taking a bit of getting used to. Hmm....say to disarm him while he mounted, can any other warrior do it too if they are not holding aggro? Silly question I know. >< Not familiar with warrior moves.

Thanks xiaosin. I lke the last one too. Although the 2nd one is copy word for word from AmpWoW. ><

Moroes :

1. How long are your typical fights guys?

2. If the garrote get onto a player that doesn't have stoneform, pally's bubble, mage iceblock or pally cannot cast bubble, how then? Looks like massive healing. I heard some groups just let the wipe happen when the non-plate healers gets it and that they rather run back to try again. Does Ironshield help in this situation or will it always be 1K damage ever 3 sec?

when going in to meet moroes, do you reckon that having 3 healer spec classes is an overkill i.e. DPS will drop substantially?

thanks wikzs. most guides online are talking about 2 healers max.

with moroes, we had him at about 50% but it was rough going becoz ran out of mana from healing. plus, the hard hits which is nothing unusual.

challenge for us is how to make sure we can bring our resto druids in. it looks like :

1 holy pally (main healing)
1 resto druid (main healing)
1 shadow priest (hybrid)

with holy priest, then druid is the hybrid of either feral or balance?

Moroes fight :

How to make sure the shackle doesn't break from mobs inherent resistance? No one is hitting it but the shackle from our Holy Priest has a tendency to break. She's shackling the warrior where he usually shield bashes the priest. Ending up with a longer time to whack for him to finish bashing her. Sigh.

Thanks guys. Hmm... we had no pallies, 1 hunter, 1 holy priest, 1 shadow priest. So looks like have to stand near the hunter where the 2nd ice-trap will be.

We had both the holy pally, holy priest and ret pally. Plus one of the warriors.

We cleared all 4 adds twice. It was the garrote that got us in the end. 1/2 of us were new to the fight. The other half had down him down to 4K HP but there was a pally present as well as holy priest + shadow priest + hunter (loads of CC). Last nite's run, the lowest we got Moroes down to was 40% HP.

jwrx : spot on on 10 people working together. we do notice it does take awhile for the members to get used to doing 10-man.

kidi : ah. then i'm assuming that the last 2 adds that are to be kept shackled at all times would be at least one warrior and one more whoever it is that is left there (presumably the holy priest or holy pally)? with the adds spawn, is it possible to get 2 priest + 2 pally or is it a mix of priest + pally + warrior combo at all times?

qua : yep. guess so. but no pally with us that night (he log on late). unless i put out my max regrowth, that may help a bit. but only for a short while.

xiao : only dwarf was the OT. and he almost never got garroted.

gladys : wanna share your fight strategies or fight scenarios? Think the guys also cannot help you if you don't describe how the fight goes on.

mimi still learning the fight wor. first time go in wor. better to look like a fool asking for help making mistakes than having to get stopped by moroes for the next few weeks. then i veli veli malu alredi.

yeah, the repair bills are pricey, i'd think. but sometimes, feel so geram when we can't even do much. like with attumen, still need to go a few times before downing him. bleargh.

Reason 2. Even when we swap MT/OT roles, they seem to have problems picking up Attumen. OT is on the horse. MT is in front of the casters to pick up Attumen.

Does Attumen spawn next to the horse or near the wagon?

MT1 tried to pick up Attumen when he spawned with thunderclasp but couldn't seem to. We switched to misdirect Attumen to him and it was better. Then found out that Sunder Armor doesn't work well so had to switch to Shield Bash / Slam.

Another time was phase 2. 2 tanks had problems picking up Attumen when he mounted up. After mounting up, someone gets charged until the warrior can pick him up. We put Misdirect and stood in front of the casters.

It only happened at these 2 occasions. Any other occasion, the tanks can hold aggro.

This post has been edited by myremi: Apr 27 2007, 05:07 PM

jrwx : I like the raid gear check. Thanks. Been looking high and low for something like that.

Everyone else : Thanks for the tips guys.

I went in before even trying heroics. Attumen is alright but Moroes, yikes.

Back to the grind then.

Honestly, I usually sit out until I get the healing and the gear. Just filling in the spots when healer is not around. I can tell you I'm also devious. Sometimes there is no arguing with people so I'd rather they go into Kara and get wiped. It helps to take down their confidence a bit so that they become more focus on gameplay.

The other thing is that we have an unusual mix of people who have raide before and who haven't. Also, the team composition changes a fair bit so it does take awhile. Then again we don't raid every night and only do 3 out of 7 days so the wipes are expected.

But yeah, I agree with you on your observation. Some folks are in denial that they're gear is already good enough for Kara and then say they only wanna do Heroics with certain guildies. Sigh. It's hard to tell them that one doesn't get better by hitting the limit. It's more of knowing that you're never going to get better until you chase for it.

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Added on April 30, 2007, 11:53 amyep. the funny thing about druids is that they have one of the lower stamina gear available to them out of all the healers methinks.

but the bigger problem would be the 3 raid nites raiding. doubt if kara would be that fast to learn.




This post has been edited by myremi: Apr 30 2007, 11:53 AM